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Topic: Anonymity in the crypto gambling world. Something to think about... (Read 670 times)

legendary
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The bitter truth is that there is no form of anonymity with online crypto casinos. It's difficult to engage with activities in this space without providing any form of data about you in order that you could continue with the engagement.
Upto a certain limit casinos might allow betting without KYC but most will and if you win big you are going have to follow their ToS and if that needs you to complete KYC then you would have to get that done as well.

Anonymity is something that we think we can achieve but we really am very far from it. As soon as money laundering possibilities come in everyone has to pass a security check and thus we are all known to the casino.

So if trust is an issue here, do not gamble there.
legendary
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The bitter truth is that there is no form of anonymity with online crypto casinos. It's difficult to engage with activities in this space without providing any form of data about you in order that you could continue with the engagement.
There are some new casinos that have come out there, that offer anonymity and the exclusive use of VPN, which I think the World does have a Solution in reality, this is something to think about, I am a person who loves Anonymity ,  Privacy , that for me is a good indication of security which is a luxury in reality, but taking into consideration that things are always focused on a plane where the future is framed to take away our right to Privacy , there are some casinos that are against this, I think those casinos will be very important in the near Future.
legendary
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There will be no more anonymity for you when you have uploaded personal data in the online world not only in casinos but on all websites including exchanges, so if you want to be anonymous never upload your personal data, so actually anonymity is difficult to maintain for gamblers, if you play at a crypto casino that never asks for KYC but uses an exchange that requires KYC so the results are the same, and also usually crypto casinos that say No KYC only in certain circumstances when there is a case where the casino feels the need to ask for KYC players find it difficult to refuse, and what's worse is when we meet a casino that can't be trusted where they continue to store data even after we delete the account, continue to spy on us.
hero member
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Anonymity can only be achieved if we’re playing on a decentralized platform, but the casinos you mentioned are centralized, so true anonymity isn’t possible.

And if you’ve been following the news, some casinos (like Stake) are already enforcing KYC for their players. It’s just one casino for now, but eventually, others will follow, so we have to be ready to accept this reality because it’s likely the trend moving forward.

I feel like back when crypto wasn’t as popular, we could still enjoy true anonymity. But now that regulations are tightening, anonymity is pretty much gone.
There's still platforms on which you can still play without needing to verify something on which means that you can be able to withdraw without needing up some verification or KYC. Back in the past that almost casinos are really that truly anonymous but now they are already that starting out to become that centralized and regulated on which they would really be that wanting up some verification before you can be able to make withdrawal. Now, we do still have some few numbers on which this do indicates or really that shows that we will really be that becoming centralized and regulated as the years passing by. There were platforms which are still that not regulated but most of gamblers or bettors that looking up for some license on which they will basing up whether the site is legit or not on which this should become that standard for security reasons because we've been able to experience frauds and scam sites on which they have that totally ran away without being traced up and thats why people do prefer into those licensed since there's a chance that those owners will really be that be traced up and get some file cases on which this one is good, but in exchange then it will be that anonymous thing.
hero member
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Hmm crypto casino quite alright, but are these casinos decentralised? No! Are they registered under an operational license? Yes! Then that means they are regulated by the authority, and in compliance of AML policies and other related cheating act on the system by customers, we're compelled to pass KYC whether the customer likes it or not.

The bitter truth is that there is no form of anonymity with online crypto casinos. It's difficult to engage with activities in this space without providing any form of data about you in order that you could continue with the engagement.
hero member
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There's actually anonymity in gambling,and there's also online casinos that implement gambling anonymity.But because that's a smart choice pattern of gambling and also a risk to behold.Gambling anonymity is way of keeping one's gambling accounts and activities private,but while it's seems beneficial and reliable to some casinos,other casinos would consider the negative effects and disdain the practice/method.

Some gamblers realizing the benefits of anonymity would play recalcitrant cards to the adverse results of gambling anonymity.
legendary
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

Well, it is very possible that we are lying to ourselves when we actually believe that are gambling anonymously, because looking and considering how sophisticated and advanced technology have become, there are easy tools with which most of this sites can monitor our footprints, take Facebook for example, facebook know even what you search on Google..

The other day, I went to Google to search on the closest store to get mens quality shoes and other types of footwear, having seen what I was looking for, I later opened my Facebook app the same day only to start seeing ads on different stores near me why I can buy different varieties of men's shoes and other types of footwears, I was surprised honestly, I felt like deleting the app.

I know the above example does not relate to casinos and gambling, but it clearly explains why we might actually be fooling ourselves if we believe that all this casinos don't keep a tab on us, even the ones that claim to be anonymous casinos.
hero member
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You are not anonymous to any site online as long as you are using a device even if you use a VPN. And for casino sites, there are instances where scammers impersonate a casino to scam people. And when it's brought to the authority, if the casino cannot provide evidence that they are not the ones stealing from customers or a lead to the scammers their business is on the line.  
To some extent, using a VPN in a decentralised crypto casino, which you don't use any of your personal information to sign up for, is somewhat safe since you don't reveal any of that data to the casino. You are a bit safer from being noticed.

The use of a VPN only becomes useless if you are using it in a casino in which you supply them with your personal information in the form of KYC, be it primary or secondary. A VPN can't help you remain anonymous in such a case; it can only help protect your current location.
hero member
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

Anonymousity in crypto casinos died the very moment KYC was made compulsory as a criteria for effective gambling, and likewise the very moment casinos prohibited the use of VPN by users to hide their respective IP addresses, which were a major tool used in staying anonymous on the internet. Because today, majority of the casinos that claim to be anonymous today are literally not, as they have some sort of A.I tools which can be used to track our online activities, which is why for anybody to completely remain anonymous online, they needs to avoid uploading vital details on the internet.
legendary
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Nowadays there is no longer anonymity like in the past, even when we walk down the street we are filmed by security cameras that the government places in every corner of the city, governments force banks to charge KYC to their customers, governments force casinos to charge KYC to their customers, and it won't take many years for wallets to also ask for KYC
hero member
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Anonymity can only be achieved if we’re playing on a decentralized platform, but the casinos you mentioned are centralized, so true anonymity isn’t possible.

And if you’ve been following the news, some casinos (like Stake) are already enforcing KYC for their players. It’s just one casino for now, but eventually, others will follow, so we have to be ready to accept this reality because it’s likely the trend moving forward.

I feel like back when crypto wasn’t as popular, we could still enjoy true anonymity. But now that regulations are tightening, anonymity is pretty much gone.

There's no anonymity at all, unless you are gambling in a web3 casino that doesn't ask for KYC but you just have to connect your wallet and place your bet.

Stake is not the only casino on the forum that is requesting for KYC verification from players, even if other casinos doesn't make their KYC compulsory before players can bet, that doesn't mean they don't have KYC requirement. If you read the terms and conditions of some casinos, they said, "they have the right to ask for KYC anytime they want. " Such policy doesn't even make them decentralized.
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Anonymity in the crypto gambling world. Something to think about... In general according to Google I searched about Do website sell our data and the answer is like this

Yes, many websites do sell user data to third parties, often without explicitly stating it, by sharing information collected about your browsing habits and preferences to companies that use it for targeted advertising and other marketing purposes; this is a common practice across the internet, although the specifics of how data is handled can vary depending on the website and its privacy policy.
Key points to remember:
Data collection:
Websites gather information like your search history, clicks, demographics, and location through cookies and tracking pixels.
Data brokers:
Companies called "data brokers" often purchase large amounts of user data from websites and then sell it to other businesses for various uses.
Targeted advertising:
The primary reason websites sell data is to enable highly personalized ads based on your interests and behavior.
Privacy policies:
While not always transparent, most websites have privacy policies that outline how they collect and share user data.

From there you probably know this is become a "public secret" when a company is selling our data to a data broker
hero member
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This is one thing about casinos when making use of them they tends to be cool at the first time using, but they keeps mono your account to see if there could be a serious activity such as huge deposits and withdrawals immediately they discovers that from you they would start demanding additional verification when you want to make huge withdrawals. It's always better to discover a casino that doesn't stress you about withdrawals and additional verification.

Most of the casino with license and reputable can ask anyone to undergo KYC regardless if you have huge transactions from both withdrawals and deposits since that’s is mandated by the law to know their customers.

It’s important to know the risk of KYC before you start creating an account to certain casino because KYC is already inevitable.

It’s very to adjust in online casino if you are not comfortable sending your KYC while you still want to play in online casino.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?
I wish that situation was better but we cant have special rules only for casinos when all other website and services have more restrictions.
After using many casinos I decided that I prefer if they dont have strict registration rules and that is why I mostly use Sportsbet.io
There are few more casinos I usedin the past but I stopped using them after they confiscated my coins and demanded from me to perform verification.
This is one thing about casinos when making use of them they tends to be cool at the first time using, but they keeps mono your account to see if there could be a serious activity such as huge deposits and withdrawals immediately they discovers that from you they would start demanding additional verification when you want to make huge withdrawals. It's always better to discover a casino that doesn't stress you about withdrawals and additional verification.
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Anonymity can only be achieved if we’re playing on a decentralized platform, but the casinos you mentioned are centralized, so true anonymity isn’t possible.

And if you’ve been following the news, some casinos (like Stake) are already enforcing KYC for their players. It’s just one casino for now, but eventually, others will follow, so we have to be ready to accept this reality because it’s likely the trend moving forward.

I feel like back when crypto wasn’t as popular, we could still enjoy true anonymity. But now that regulations are tightening, anonymity is pretty much gone.

There are also casinos based on Telegram, where you can log in just trough TG application, so I guess they are anonymous.

Regarding tightening of regulations it seems that we are going towards total control where every aspect of life will be under supervision.

It could be, but we all know that there are cases that Telegram was being ask by government to provide them the info, i.e ip address and everything on a certain account, specially if the government deem those accounts as risk, so still there are no anonymity.

I think this is going to be a never ending debate for crypto gamblers, as we are being track already and then asking to do a mandated KYC is just a icing for regulators to identify us all. So yeah, anonymity is no longer here, we are already exposed.
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Actually for the casinos who do not require KYC I don't think they will have any data from you which they can track you with because they can actually monitor you only with the information they have gotten from you when submitting for KYC and for crypto casinos,  such isn't really needed so they may not get your information and so if you get banned you stay banned without any of your information out there because you are actually anonymous.
legendary
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Anonymity can only be achieved if we’re playing on a decentralized platform, but the casinos you mentioned are centralized, so true anonymity isn’t possible.

And if you’ve been following the news, some casinos (like Stake) are already enforcing KYC for their players. It’s just one casino for now, but eventually, others will follow, so we have to be ready to accept this reality because it’s likely the trend moving forward.

I feel like back when crypto wasn’t as popular, we could still enjoy true anonymity. But now that regulations are tightening, anonymity is pretty much gone.

There are also casinos based on Telegram, where you can log in just trough TG application, so I guess they are anonymous.

Regarding tightening of regulations it seems that we are going towards total control where every aspect of life will be under supervision.
Speaking about TG casinos out there then it will really be that anonymous but we do know that there's soo much differences in terms of UI/UX on which its surprising that it isnt really that getting too much attention or demand. If ever that online casinos that we do have today will really be that totally centralized then there's no other choice but to deal up with these type of casinos. Although there are still some casinos now arent that asking for some KYC but the shit thing on here is that they can anytime ask out if ever they will be that verifying something. For totally decentralized then this will be always that pertaining into those games that directly be that getting involved with blockchain based transactions on which this do really sucks. This is why people will really be that sticking into the platforms on which despite of that KYc but still they do really that getting involved with it or making registration. Being anonymous now is that getting that slimmer or becoming less because government wont really be allowing these business to run without paying up some taxes on which this is that understandable on this aspect. For us who do value anonymity do really need up to deal with this kind of thing on which sooner or later we will be that similar to fiat casinos but using up only crypto as a deposit.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

At first we can say Bitcoin is anonymous (decentralized) because when performing onchain transactions it is wallet to wallet without being registered to any site that sources for your personal information. So, here there is no  lie.

But whatever transactions that has gone offchain such as exchange to exchange is no longer anonymous including gambling site because already someone have to pass through documentation to access their funds or have access to those sites and of course there are tells that our data is encrypted but we aren't there and we don't know what happens over there if they tells us the truth or not.

Now this is where we can say exchanges or gambling site can't categorically say they are anonymous gambling site we can't accept with full heart, even in those Decentralized gambling site that says they don't request for personal information there would be some winning they also ask for SoF and more verification process this is to avoid anti-money laundry. So clearly they are lying to us.
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Anonymity can only be achieved if we’re playing on a decentralized platform, but the casinos you mentioned are centralized, so true anonymity isn’t possible.

And if you’ve been following the news, some casinos (like Stake) are already enforcing KYC for their players. It’s just one casino for now, but eventually, others will follow, so we have to be ready to accept this reality because it’s likely the trend moving forward.

I feel like back when crypto wasn’t as popular, we could still enjoy true anonymity. But now that regulations are tightening, anonymity is pretty much gone.

There are also casinos based on Telegram, where you can log in just trough TG application, so I guess they are anonymous.

Regarding tightening of regulations it seems that we are going towards total control where every aspect of life will be under supervision.
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Anonymity can only be achieved if we’re playing on a decentralized platform, but the casinos you mentioned are centralized, so true anonymity isn’t possible.

And if you’ve been following the news, some casinos (like Stake) are already enforcing KYC for their players. It’s just one casino for now, but eventually, others will follow, so we have to be ready to accept this reality because it’s likely the trend moving forward.

I feel like back when crypto wasn’t as popular, we could still enjoy true anonymity. But now that regulations are tightening, anonymity is pretty much gone.
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Bitcoin casinos started with the anonymity thing as something to boast of. Eventually casino owners understood the bad part of keeping the users anonymous - in comes money launderers and criminals using the site as a mixing website.

Then starts the government crack down on these sites and the forcible introduction of KYC. Now if you have passed KYC on a site, your personal data is completely in their hands and you are not in any manner anonymous.

It is something we have to accept if we are playing with decent amounts of bankroll.
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You are not anonymous to any site online as long as you are using a device even if you use a VPN. And for casino sites, there are instances where scammers impersonate a casino to scam people. And when it's brought to the authority, if the casino cannot provide evidence that they are not the ones stealing from customers or a lead to the scammers their business is on the line.

So KYC is an extra layer of security so your real identity is known and if a customer engages in illegal activities the casino can track the person.  Somehow a site always gets your data, in some sites, you must accept cookies before you move forward.

While those of us that also save our passwords to a site they are holding your data. What we should do as internet users is to be careful with our activities online as to not fall into illegal deeds or prone to scanners.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?
Yes, of course, especially if you are gambling in a centralised arrangement, you should know that it is no secret, you are known and your deposit and withdrawal activities will surely be monitored since you are not anonymous. Talking about anonymity, this is overrated in the crypto world these days forgetting that when you deal with a centralised system you are no longer anonymous. Even in cryptocurrency, there are many deceptions, you can't tell me you are dealing with BNB, USDT etc with your local VPN and claim you are still anonymous, it's a lie.
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From what we see, it is increasingly difficult to find a crypto casino that does not ask for user data. For security reasons, legal operations require every casino to implement KYC
KYC is not for security reason. Do not think that the exchanges and the gambling sites that you provided your documents and get verified can not be hacked. Coins their can be stolen. Also do not think your account there can not become compromised if you do not protect your password very well and use 2FA.

The reason for KYC is to obey the regulators and to reduce online bad activities. But yet online bad activities are not on the decline but increasing.
The application of KYC is the main requirement that is indeed applied by the relevant jurisdiction which is the gambling authority, casinos that have clear regulations set KYC as the main requirement for their users and casinos that are unable to meet these requirements will of course get problems with the regulations applied by the gambling authorities, in my opinion, the application of KYC is nothing but for security, trust and legal compliance in online casino operations, although it may raise doubts about the security and privacy of the identity of the user, but actually the benefits are very significant in terms of fraud prevention and also user security, I personally have been more inclined to choose a casino or crypto exchange that applies kyc in its registration,because then we have also complied with existing regulations to support our own security and convenience if any problems arise.
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For security reasons, legal operations require every casino to implement KYC, and they do not hesitate to determine the grace period.

Casinos don't care about that, they ask about KYC because they are required once they get their license, if they were left alone they would not care for a thing, just offer you and address where to deposit and play away, look at casinos still asking about KYC and then miraculously still finding multiple accounts abusing promos offers, how is that possible in the first place anyhow?

The reason for KYC is to obey the regulators and to reduce online bad activities. But yet online bad activities are not on the decline but increasing.

This, KYC is for them to be legal and stay out of trouble, beside even if hackers would use accounts to withdraw money they get from manipulating the software, they would for sure not use their real names unless they are dumb as hell, which would not make sense in them finding vulnerabilities in the first place.

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From what we see, it is increasingly difficult to find a crypto casino that does not ask for user data. For security reasons, legal operations require every casino to implement KYC
KYC is not for security reason. Do not think that the exchanges and the gambling sites that you provided your documents and get verified can not be hacked. Coins their can be stolen. Also do not think your account there can not become compromised if you do not protect your password very well and use 2FA.

The reason for KYC is to obey the regulators and to reduce online bad activities. But yet online bad activities are not on the decline but increasing.
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From what we see, it is increasingly difficult to find a crypto casino that does not ask for user data. For security reasons, legal operations require every casino to implement KYC, and they do not hesitate to determine the grace period. So anonymity has been lost along with policies that narrow users to protect their data. When it comes to spying, etc., it is clearly beyond the limits that we ourselves still cannot be 100% sure of. What is clear is that the purpose of the casino is only to be able to operate more widely by having official legality.
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This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity?

How can there be any anonymity?
- you send them all your details to pass KYC
- they have to collect all the info and store it, including transactions that ona simple chain analysis will reveal a ton about you
- the right to be forgotten law only acts when there are no financial transactions

All this unless you opt for a non-licensed casino that requires no KYC, but by the time you realize why they have no license you might regret trading your anonymity for money that is lost with nobody to complain about.

So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

People have been using monero and TOR only to order weed directly to their home addresses, so...


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This is a legit concern in crypto gambling. A lot of casinos market themselves as 'anonymous,' but in reality, they still track user activity or require KYC at some point. I think the real question is whether a platform actually respects player privacy or just uses 'anonymity' as a buzzword.

There are still some platforms that actually respect privacy, though. I’ve been playing on Galactix, and so far, it’s been solid in that regard. No KYC for withdrawals, and I don’t feel like I’m being tracked every step of the way.

Curious to hear what others think—do you guys fully trust any platform to keep things private?
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if you are using bitcoin and have a basic knowledge on how it works a laptop and your internet connection you already know that there are many many ways to track actions  online.
this can be done also by casino, as any other business they need to make their research to optimize the business or just to have improved security.
it's really hard to remain anonymous to all parties involved... but I don't think that the worst actors here are the casinos...
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Not everywhere IMO. Betting exchanges, decentralized platforms and sportsbooks not limitating winners have no interest in spying their customers actually. So I think it only happens at casinos offering generous promotions and bonuses or juicy odds.
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This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?
How anonymous do you want to be? My opinion on this is that you are anonymous from the outside but not from the inside. Even if there is no KYC, you are still willingly giving some data to the gambling platform. People may forget that data can literally be anything. Just by using the platform, there’s already data involved.
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With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
That’s what happens when you trust platforms on the internet. Platforms that are run by other people. The best thing you can do is to protect yourself. Usually the data companies acquire are not shared and are only used to further improve their services.
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If someone go for KYC and get verified on a gambling site, know that there is no anonymity for the person regarding the gambling site anymore.You are anonymous when you gamble on the gambling sites that do not require KYC and using the noncustodial wallet that you use Tor with and making sure you did not link the Tor wallet with your KYC parts.

Exactly when you're open to KYC verification you are not experiencing anonymity but when you don't undergo KYC verification then you are being anonymous to the gambling sites just as you have said but anonymity in the gambling world is something to beckon unto but I think the need for clarification of accounts to be free from illicit and illegal acts has made it to be open tho the society. Anonymity is has alot of advantage but then applying it in this era basically in crypto gambling world,I think you'll need to stick to what you know cause it isn't that easy of a task.
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It is possible, there are sites that do not require account verification, like in my signature, for example. The question is, will many bother and will they preserve their anonymity on the network as much as possible? We have long since left a lot of digital traces on the network, so there is no point in secrecy. Of course, you we create a perfectly clean account, wallets and everything else, but for what? If everything is according to the letter of the law, then there is no point in worrying. One of the few who preserved their anonymity in the cryptocurrency industry is Satoshi, unfortunately, we were not able to do this.
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With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
Yeah, more than 90% of crypto services are asking for clearing KYC with documents and mobile number nowadays. If you really want to stay anonymous along with bitcoin, then I guess you should never touch any of the centralized services. Because, due to continuous compliance requirement from governments, those services which started by ensuring our privacy suddenly changing their policy and blocking our accounts. After you got used to such services, you may opt for clearing KYC rather than remaining anonymous.

I expect more aggressive days ahead. When more adaption happening, and more recognition bitcoin is getting, I guess anonymity in crypto gambling will slowly fade away due to government regulations. Personally I have submitted my documents in 2 exchanges as I could find any no-KYC alternate for my requirements. But, I switched to a new gambling service when my usual house started asking for my mobile number for basic verification.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

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i think there is no anonymity in online gambling. when you use an online casino, your data has started to be collected by them.. and i do not think that it is an act of spying on its users, it is more that the data is needed by the platform for the services they provide, for example for kyc, cookies, game history, and several other things. and usually online casinos have explained about data collection on their website through the terms of service.. so gamblers should look again at this matter in the terms of service at the online casino they use.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

I wouldn't say that they are spying on us. When you signed up on a casino website, you agreed that your data would be stored and in storing your data, you inadvertently agreed to the risk of your data being leaked or sold to a third party.

There are crypto-gambling casinos that are truly anonymous and but is it going to be exclusively by invitation or through some other vetting means. Those that are in this group don't have it posted on their website that they are annonymous, those that are anonymous are not annouced, it mostly going to be a friend bringing in a friend.
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Let's first and foremost state the obvious fact that you can't actually trust any firm , company or organisation with your private data or KYC. Yes they often state here and there how much seriously they take your KYC data as private but the truth is some of them don't get rid of your data once you no longer have an account with them and worse some sell those data to scammers online.
This is why most persons try as much as possible to limit how much of their personal data they share online because it a casino or not.
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In crypto casinos there was more anonymity a few years ago than now, because for starters the kyc requirements were generally more lax or did not exist in many cases. Also, the authorities did not have cryptocurrencies so much in their sights and therefore neither did crypto casinos.

Also, I don't know if you have heard the phrase that Big Data is the oil of the 21st century, I think I heard it from Mr. Wonderful.

Not asking KYC isn't enough though.

The device you use, internet connection, email, password and your cryptocurrency address can be used for them to track the owner. So, someone need to pay attention when they make deposit or want to send the coins to exchange, if the casino and exchange cooperate with each other, it's high likely they will know the owner.

The real non-kyc casinos, at least the ones I have tried, which do not even have a license, and of which there are few left, do not ask you for an email address, and unlike most casinos nowadays, they allow you to connect using VPN or Tor. You don't even have to choose a password in some cases, and you can create an account for each session.
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You don't expect anonymity from any casino you are using as long as you have filled in your detail on that casino as regard KYC upgrade. If there's an form of incident that requires user's information for conducting investigation, the casino can actually use the details submitted during KYC, to track any user down but where you expect anonymity is when you are using a casino that doesn't request for KYC or maybe they don't make it compulsory and you have not given out your details too.
Not asking KYC isn't enough though.

The device you use, internet connection, email, password and your cryptocurrency address can be used for them to track the owner. So, someone need to pay attention when they make deposit or want to send the coins to exchange, if the casino and exchange cooperate with each other, it's high likely they will know the owner.

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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

You don't expect anonymity from any casino you are using as long as you have filled in your detail on that casino as regard KYC upgrade. If there's an form of incident that requires user's information for conducting investigation, the casino can actually use the details submitted during KYC, to track any user down but where you expect anonymity is when you are using a casino that doesn't request for KYC or maybe they don't make it compulsory and you have not given out your details too.
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At one time, Ricardo Spagni (the main developer and ideologist of the most anonymous and confidential cryptocurrency Monero) wrote that absolute anonymity on the Internet does not exist. Moreover, the information recorded in the blockchain is stored there forever. This allows even after many years to analyze this information and de-anonymize the user.

The same applies to gambling and casinos. Your anonymity and privacy when gambling is very conditional.

However, this does not mean that you should completely abandon the desire for anonymity and privacy. If a person is a criminal, he will not be able to ensure anonymity and privacy on the network - sooner or later he will be de-anonymized and arrested.

At the same time, an honest person, in my opinion, should ensure his privacy when working on the network (in particular when interacting with online casinos). This is as natural as physical hygiene and allows you to avoid many troubles.
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Strangely, those who are regular players are surprised that there is no anonymity on the Internet? How does a casino track multiple accounts? The article, of course, describes it well, but this is not news. Their protection is constantly being modified, and I am sure that each casino has its way of tracking players. Yes, maybe they reassure players that player data remains safe and does not spread to other resources, but as for their protection, they are obliged to use anti-fraud. Otherwise, cheaters would regularly cheat casinos by registering many accounts and using their bonuses.
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There's almost no anonymity in internet, not only in crypto casino.

Let's say you use centralized exchange and you've submitted your KYC, you are no longer anonymous. This applies to people who have online marketplace, digital bank and any other sites which you've submitted your KYC.

You might achieve certain privacy level in crypto casino, but make sure you gamble on no KYC casino.
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I believe it would depend on what the platform you are doing in because they would be the ones in control of the data. Some companies are taking advantage of the data they are getting and the part where they know where they could profit from it. The best way is to use something like Polymarket, a wallet that is not connected to anything, and be more anonymous there.

We are no longer fully anonymous, and all the tools are being used now.
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When you register on a gambling site and start to provide your personal information to them there's no more anonymity for you. I've come to accept the fact about KYC and crypto casinos and I don't think that reputable casinos cares about your personal information, they collect them because of government regulations. A gambler that doesn't have any criminal intentions don't need to worry about KYC requirements in casinos, they won't bother you if they don't suspect you. KYC is borne out of necessity to combat money laundering and I can't blame casinos for requiring it, that is why it's better to gamble on reputable casinos who wouldn't use your information against you.
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The anonymity still exist in the Internet because you can use many things including VPN to hide your connection. But when you register in any sites and that site require you to do KYC, that will be the end of anonymity because you need to give your personal document to the site.

I am not think that sportsbooks and casinos spying on us because for the reputable casino, they will not do that instead will protect their member from the bad things. If you think that gambling lose its anonymity, you don't have to playing gambling and search for the other activity.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


I'm not surprised at all. Of course, all the behavior and history of a person in the network are monitored. By the way, it's good that the article highlights the role of mobile apps as surveillance tools. Usually, such an application is positioned as the most user-friendly, whereas such an application is primarily the most convenient for tracking, collecting information and statistics.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?
Do you still believe in anonymity in gambling? That’s long gone ever since governments started strictly enforcing regulations.

If the casinos you mentioned have a legit license they cannot offer anonymous gambling because they are regulated and must follow the law, otherwise they'll be penalize and loss their license.

So if you think they’re spying on us, and if that’s true, there’s nothing we can do about it. We’ve already submitted our personal information and are using our real IP addresses. Most people probably don’t even use a VPN since they don’t want to risk getting their accounts banned.
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It is hard to believe we are unrevealed but easy as saying we are anonymous just because the casino makes us feel so.

Although when it comes to crypto casinos, the level of our exposure can be limited if only the casino are reputable with their customers and the bound of our exposure is between users and the casinos without being exposed to other parties such as private entities and the regulatory authorities.

We practically can not stay anonymous free because there is always a signing of messages using the sites permissions before accessing their sites. That is a very high term of technology of programs that they won't tell you.
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In the internet world, I really doubt anonymity is still a thing. IP addresses even if you use VPN and our browsing data can be seen.
When it comes to online gambling, the same thing can be said because we are still using the internet. It's just better to pick a reputable online casino and pass your KYC and just make sure they won't do anything fishy.
Sure, we can make them follow a longer path but that will still come out on our end. That is why the safest way for anonymity up until now is cash and a computer without internet if you want to keep your cryptocurrency funds secure.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

At the time or moment that you had submitted your KYC or information details then you are already exposed since that one, dont expect that they will really be that truly having no intentions in speaking about those informations that would be used in other way. Just like into real world or physical that we are already that been known or exposed because of the information that we are really that giving. How much more into these platforms that going back in the past on which i could say that they are truly anonymous and come to think that this is the main reason on why crypto gambling had that become known or popular because of this aspect but now they are gradually become centralized or being regulated on which it had resulted into these terms on which it do end up that having these KYC on which this do really sucks.Somehow we do still have platforms or casinos that doesnt have KYC.
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I think prior to 2020 you could still be anonymous in the crypto world as far as gambling goes, but once KYC started getting introduced nearly everywhere, being anonymous went out the window. Now all the governments are adding crypto regulations and licensed casino have to follow these regulations are lose their license and ability to operate.

It's all about money. I agree that paying taxes should happen, but I disagree with the % that some countries want. For example USA treats Bitcoin as a property and taxes you on capital gains. You have short term and long term gains. If you cash out your btc to fiat before holding it 1 year, you get charged the short term gains fee of 35%. If you hold it a year you only pay 15%. How fair is that? Should be a flat 15% rate max period, but greed sets in.

The only way to actually be anonymous is to play on unlicensed casinos and take the risk they don't pay you.
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I don't think there is anonymity in gambling, because it will require you to insert your personal information while signing for kyc and there is nothing you can do to escape it, some will even start form the way of registration, when you might have used your email address, means of identification, contact number, region or country and so on, except when we feels like rendering the accurate information about ourself is what we cant afford to do, if not they have our information with them.
Damn, what kind of anonymity can we talk about in the 21st century? Are you serious? It hasn't been like that for a long time now. And how are casinos and bookmakers different? They have such opportunities that if I were them, I would definitely start collecting information about players. I would be interested in learning as much as possible about those users who have large financial resources in order to know how to keep them on the site.
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Before 2017 we could still see many gambling that might be more concerned with anonymity without requiring KYC to be able to gamble. But now the development of sophisticated technology that encourages popular casinos to require KYC. And maybe in the future the anonymity of crypto gambling will no longer exist and casinos will always have reasons for legality. Now there are only 2 choices to continue gambling anonymously or stop gambling to maintain anonymity.
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Even when some casinos intend to promote anonymous gambling, regulatory laws will force them to abandon such a vision.
I do not think it is a vision but a way to attract customers. The gambing site will become big and later know that they can easily be noticable to the regulators and make KYC mandatory for all their customers. This is common to crypto gambling sites.

But I still always find it strange that some people do not like KYC after we should just use small amount of money to gamble. But I recently noticed that gambling is banned in some countries but some of their citizens may still want to gamble. Because of this they prefer no KYC gambling sites. But what about their IP address? Although some gambling sites allows the use of VPN. But I prefer people from such countries not to gamble on the sites they are restricted from.
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With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
Even when some casinos intend to promote anonymous gambling, regulatory laws will force them to abandon such a vision. The spread and popularity of Anti-money laundering is making privacy a rare commodity. Even when casinos claim to be anonymous, if you read their term of service, there might be some clauses that mandate gamblers to provide personal information under certain conditions.

The bottom line is that if you want to enjoy privacy don't deposit or gamble with a big sum, and hope that you don't win big. So that you can easily abandon the gambling platform if they begin to ask for details you don't want to expose.

With the advancement in technology, the internet is simply a monitoring channel, except you have consciously put in place some blockages.         
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This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


Ever since the introduction of KYC for crypto casino I already accepted the fact that there’s no anonymity at all on crypto gambling. This is the price we pay for demanding a much reputable casino with license while the license provider requires KYC.

You can only achieved anonymity by playing on decentralized casino or unlicensed casino but there’s always risk involved that casino will runaway your money.

It's more of the regulatory body forcing casinos to mandate KYC for AML purpose. Initially, all we need is just a withdrawal address. Now, it's difference, specially if you won big, there are levels of KYC that this casinos are going to ask from you.

So there is no anonymity at all in crypto base online casinos, it's also the same with traditional base, you sign up with them to take advantage of the perks and giveaways by the casino itself. So it's either we understand it and accept that, or don't play online at all.
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In my opinion, anonymity is a quantitative concept. Of course, there is no absolute anonymity on the Internet. After all, all sites collect your IP address and cookies (in general, all information about your connection and browser). Your VPN can hide little. And if you are forced to go through KYC in case of winning at the casino, then you can say goodbye to your dreams of anonymity. Perhaps, prediction platforms such as Polymarket have a little more anonymity, since they are more decentralized. We can say that absolute anonymity on the Internet does not exist. We have yet to create a new anonymous and decentralized Internet and the fashion for casinos and bookmakers with a high degree of anonymity.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


Its not just the gambling online casinos, every company basically is spying on you (or most companies) and selling your digital data to other companies as leads or just intel and its very crazy to think that is whats happening. I'm sure there are ways around a lot of that stuff but perhaps some sites would restrict your gambling if they pick up that they can't trace your IP or some ish like that.A VPN isn't enough anymore I don't think.
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This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


Ever since the introduction of KYC for crypto casino I already accepted the fact that there’s no anonymity at all on crypto gambling. This is the price we pay for demanding a much reputable casino with license while the license provider requires KYC.

You can only achieved anonymity by playing on decentralized casino or unlicensed casino but there’s always risk involved that casino will runaway your money.
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If you want to not have to deal with KYC then you just need to find the gambling website that suits you, there's a list in this forum of gambling websites that don't require you any KYC if I recall correctly, I think that you'd be doing fine going there and checking out that list. As many others have pointed out though, KYC is like a badge of honor for gambling websites to signal to people that will go on their websites and play their games that they're safe and that your funds are going to be secured no matter what happens, my solution to this kind of problem, find the one website that's got the most relaxed KYC and never use your personal email to register on their website, you can always use a different email that's not connected to you in any way, shape or form, I think that anonymity is a matter of how you deal with it because some people right now has managed to do that full anonymity with all the advancements in the cyberspace and with the controversies of government spying on their people and still managing to remain anonymous.

At the end of the day, what really matters in this context is do you care more about your privacy or your money? That's basically what this debate boils down to, do you want the anonymity or the risk that the casino will run away with your money and I think most of us have the obvious choice in this matter.
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Here is the main problem:


Either you do KYC on the gambling casino platform that you wish to play on, and thereby give them your personal data and government-issued documents

OR

You gamble on a non-KYC casino and hope that such a shady, illegal platform will not steal your funds or scam you in some other way.

So really, you are at a disadvantage, no matter how you decide. You just need to decide whether anonymity is more important than security to you.
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With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
Yes, anonymity is a myth. The point is that to discover someone's identity may take a lot of effort which doesn't make sense in most cases, unless you are a very special individual who the authorities have total interest over. That is why they make special operations and efforts to track international criminals and terrorists, while the average citizen can remain anonymous on the internet without being annoyed, tracked and discovered.

The exception is when the government is thristy for tax money, so they will make sure to implement measures to restrict anonymity as much as possible, but in large scale, without paying attention to individual cases. KYC at virtual casinos and crypto exchanges is an example of that.

If you want to remain anonymous, don't call attention to yourself, so people won't have a reason to try discovering who you really are.
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It's... not really a lie? I mean all they're probably doing is just marking it as inactive. Anyone whos handled data would be familiar with it and even if you weren't, then you actually should know about it. There's been a saying that ANY information you post in the internet STAYS in the internet. Delete it all you want but some trace of sorts would 100% be left there. Just a matter of how much effort it would take to retrieve it and for most centralized systems, they just keep the traces directly and tell you it was deleted. You won't know jack anyway!

Complete anonymity isn't really possible, pseudo? Yes. Gotta play on casinos with no KYC though. Specifically crypto casinos since they're basically the only ones anyway that'd let you play and pay without being able to trace it back to you
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

For those of us who are very into crypto where decentralization and privacy are often promoted, privacy and anonymity are significant concerns for many online gamblers and unfortunately the feeling I have is that gambling sites, be they online casinos or sportsbooks, collect and store vast amounts of player data including personal information, playing patterns, and in some cases even location data.

And there is a reason why they do this... it allows them to personalize offers, detect fraud and manage risk. Of course, while these practices can improve user experience and security, they also raise concerns about privacy and the potential for data abuse and the best way to know what they actually collect is to carefully read the terms of use and privacy legal documents that each site has.

My recommendation... stick to a few gambling sites where you will perform KYC, especially those that ask you for the minimum amount of information.
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If someone go for KYC and get verified on a gambling site, know that there is no anonymity for the person regarding the gambling site anymore.

You are anonymous when you gamble on the gambling sites that do not require KYC and using the noncustodial wallet that you use Tor with and making sure you did not link the Tor wallet with your KYC parts.
Exactly, the problem is this, KYC, and most gambling sites currently also implement it. Although there are indeed some platforms that do not, and we can choose it, sometimes, we still prefer to choose some platforms that do enforce KYC.

Is anonymity meant in this case only between fellow gambling site users? What is meant is, do they convince potential users and enforce the word "anonymous" only for the confidentiality of data from other gamblers or some people who visit the site? But that doesn't mean it's really anonymous by the developer? Because the owner still knows who the users are.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


The data may be used to stay ahead of the player using different algorithms and tools to expand profits. However a high percent of gamblers don't care about anonymity, they want the big wins. While it's a concern, the KYC policy is enough reason to conclude that casinos have not anonymity; all player's activity are being traced. Not only to track who broke the rules, but to predict the gambler's next move and behavior, like how much time they spend playing a specific game.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

You will always leave a trail in your internet activity; social media do this to track what encourages you what to buy and what to watch, and more so in a casino, they have sophisticated tracking tools to trace cheaters even if the cheater is good at hiding his act, so talking about anonymity in gambling, they will not let you do that, so much of their profits depend on how familiar they are with their players.
Unless you impersonate someone, you are not really anonymous.
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Poor understanding of KYC is what is making some people still think they have anonymity after completing KYC verification.
Only a cyber security expert can be truly anonymous. There are others but this is one field I know that they can achieve full anonymity. For gamblers and people who use Bitcoin just don't argue that you are or can be anonymous.  Even when you don't submit KYC you aren't anonymous. Maybe offshore casinos can provide that anonymity for gamblers, but I don't know about it.
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Since most casinos nowadays require some form of KYC verification, there is no room to talk about anonymity in the gambling world.  The same can be said for the crypto-gambling world, as most platforms are now regulated and require KYC verification.

Even if you manage to find a casino that does not require KYC verification, you are still not anonymous. Your IP address can be traced, and your transactions can be linked to you.

In short, there is no such thing as anonymity on the internet, unless you put some serious effort .

As for whether they are spying on us, I think yeah, they probably are. But its not just casinos and sportsbooks.  Lots of companies collect data about us online, and its hard to know exactly what they are doing with it.  Its like everyone's trying to figure out what we like and how to get us to do things.  Its a bit scary when you think about it.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

Most casino I know of, usually require it's users to go through the kyc procedures. If such are recommend, I don't think there's any level of anonymity left to keep. The best thing is for one to use non kyc casinos, of where we know very soon is going on extinct. Our data can never be safe, so long we upload them online. Forget about those data companies tell us that they are safe and do not share their users data, most of them actually do. The fact that one's account was banned from a casino and his data still kept might be just Incase such users are to return in future or something...
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Anonymity on the internet?
There's always a print especially now many are making KYC mandatory.
Keeping data makes it easy to create games or situations that would get you hook
And in the case of deleting accounts and data in their database?
I have never believed such shit. They claim alot until they are caught.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

Hmm, at first glance it looked like that IESnare "scandal" was actually rather scary in terms of privacy, but really it's just a bunch of tracking cookies that will be shared across many sites that the same operator might be using - in an attempt to catch people who might be doing things like arb betting. The reality is that companies like Google do this on a much larger scale. You have to remember that most sportbook and casinos these days require KYC for any sort of sizable game play, which means they know exactly who the players are because they have access to some of the most sensitive identity documents already. It should absolutely be expected that they will be doing analysis on your gameplay with the expectation of extracting more money from you, so you do need to keep your guard up to a certain degree (like not chasing slots where the side game looks tantalizingly close to unlocking).
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At the time we give them even the basic details of ourselves, we already give them some idea of who we are. It would be more if we fully verified our account by submitting our ID and other information.
At this moment, it is too hard to believe that we still remain anonymous despite saying they will take care of our personal information from others. That is why, as we comply with KYC requirements, we are aware and ready for what happens next. It is their advantage to know their client's behavior so they can take action depending on it.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?
I wish that situation was better but we cant have special rules only for casinos when all other website and services have more restrictions.
After using many casinos I decided that I prefer if they dont have strict registration rules and that is why I mostly use Sportsbet.io
There are few more casinos I usedin the past but I stopped using them after they confiscated my coins and demanded from me to perform verification.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
If someone go for KYC and get verified on a gambling site, know that there is no anonymity for the person regarding the gambling site anymore.

You are anonymous when you gamble on the gambling sites that do not require KYC and using the noncustodial wallet that you use Tor with and making sure you did not link the Tor wallet with your KYC parts.
I doubt if decentralized casinos guarantee gamblers anonymously because with you link in data you can still be traced, I believe the point is that we can be 100% anonymous on the Internet, since we have already leaked a lot of data online, and not only on gambling sites but all over the Internet, what the ops are saying goes beyond KYC verifications to user Internet data infos and using them the track the IP as long as the phone is in that locations. So to achieve full anonymity online one needs to put a lot of things in place to be in a better position to act right and pay every sacrifice to maintain anonymously online and on gambling sites.
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As the second article clearly mentions, most people on the internet are aware of what cookies are and how they're tracking our data. The majority, if not all, websites use cookies nowadays; that's not something new. It's a little ironic to talk about anonymity when we are online and connected to the internet. Our phones only collect a ton of data; it's almost inevitable to hide your digital footprint, and even if it is possible, it requires a huge effort. With that being said, how are we expecting anonymity in the gambling world? All casinos nowadays require KYC, perhaps with a few exceptions, but I'm not familiar with those. Even Bustabit, a simple crash game, demonstrates the necessity to comply with KYC measures.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


Not really anonymous especially now that most casinos have forced their way into KYC which entitles them to get your data, of course if you have the right connections you can lie to them but most people do not lie and give their real data to such entities. Once they have them it means that they can use it as they like despite they showing us their famous terms of service. I don't think there is any real anonymity in the crypto gambling world except a very few places which we should value them to the maximum since they are not forcing anything on us compared to their equivalent businesses. I guess we are lying to ourselves as being anonymous on the Internet and that we are gambling anonymously.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


We are not lying to ourselves, in my opinion. It is possible, even to this day, to be anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously, but it requires to get out of one's way in order to do so.
To begin with, I would not go for centralized casinos, not even those which are unregulated ones, if I was seeking to keep my identity secret while I gamble, registered or not any centralized entity will have access to your IP at the very minimum.

If I wanted to gamble anonymously, I would try to seek for smart contracts which are easily auditable and have enough liquidity blocked in them for me to wager whatever my gambling budget is, using a fresh new Ethereum wallet with a fresh new address, it would be pretty much 100% anonymous. Though, most gamblers cannot even audit a smart contract by themselves, so it would be a matter of trust.
Perhaps, it is better to stick to reliable and regulated casinos if we don't have to end up losing money to shady smart contracts and "decentralized" casinos.
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For the reason being that the gambling platforms are making use of the crypto coins doesn't make them free from data leak, there is no anonymity with them all, because we give our data to them and they also monitor on every steps we are taking by tracking them within their network, this is all clear that when we make use of a centralized platform, then the issue relating to anonymity should be forgotten, but we cannot admit the fact that all the gambling platforms are being responsible for data leak, not all of them, some can be well trusted not to do so.

Some are not about data leak but inside job. The people inside that gambling platform have other intentions why such data has been transferred to those entities. They have other agenda and can be used with ill intentions. So as much as possible, limit your exposure by selecting the platforms that you will submit your info. As you have no idea where will your data will end up with, you are just left to the fact that you are just hoping that it won't be used in illegal means.
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For the reason being that the gambling platforms are making use of the crypto coins doesn't make them free from data leak, there is no anonymity with them all, because we give our data to them and they also monitor on every steps we are taking by tracking them within their network, this is all clear that when we make use of a centralized platform, then the issue relating to anonymity should be forgotten, but we cannot admit the fact that all the gambling platforms are being responsible for data leak, not all of them, some can be well trusted not to do so.
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So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
Annonymity on the internet is becoming a myth; gambling anonymously is becoming extint because almost if not all casino's currently require you to submit documents about yourself. If this is something you are uncomfortable with as someone considering to gamble, then you should not be gambling online or even gambling at all.

If someone go for KYC and get verified on a gambling site, know that there is no anonymity for the person regarding the gambling site anymore.
Poor understanding of KYC is what is making some people still think they have anonymity after completing KYC verification.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


From the moment you enter almost any website, your data, such as IP address and cookies, can be collected. However, many sites collect this information to improve their security and the site's functionality. Most casinos require KYC to maintain their legality and security, meaning that users do not abuse their system. They don't care about money laundering itself; they only keep your information on file in case any authority requests it.

Imagine that a user uses a casino to launder money and said user is 100% anonymous. If the casino cannot provide that data to the authorities, the casino would be responsible for allowing it.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?


I don't think there is anonymity in gambling, because it will require you to insert your personal information while signing for kyc and there is nothing you can do to escape it, some will even start form the way of registration, when you might have used your email address, means of identification, contact number, region or country and so on, except when we feels like rendering the accurate information about ourself is what we cant afford to do, if not they have our information with them.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?
Based on the article and the many terms I've read on casinos, they are spying on us and they want to be familiar on our behavior and how we gamble, its important for them to protect their platform and to make sure that they will continue making profits

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With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
Unless you know how to customize your online activity to anonymity, we are not anonymous; they can track where we are located, the IP, and your provider.
Its on their terms when you sign up or visit their platform on why they collect data and from where they will use it, but some casinos go to the extent of not only collecting your data but spying on you.
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So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
If someone go for KYC and get verified on a gambling site, know that there is no anonymity for the person regarding the gambling site anymore.

You are anonymous when you gamble on the gambling sites that do not require KYC and using the noncustodial wallet that you use Tor with and making sure you did not link the Tor wallet with your KYC parts.
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I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?
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