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Trusted Bitcoin escrow - escrowedbitcoin.com
October 19, 2021, 10:29:54 AM
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One more thing, after reading FAQ page I couldn't see if you log and save any data like IP address and used Bitcoin addresses?

Did it again... Sry

Don't save or log IP addresses, or any browser informations. (I will repair that thing about blocking)
Don't use any google plugins or such third party things to measure traffic, or user behavior etc (only search console so it is indexed, but it has txt in dns)
All informations we save are strongly encrypted

I want to give as much freedom, security and privacy as possible
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Trusted Bitcoin escrow - escrowedbitcoin.com
I think eddie13 explains nicely how Bitcointalk works nowadays, and unfortunately many scammers have spoiled it for others. Don't let that discourage you, I like seeing new initiatives and wish you all the best.

Very strong!
He got super upset and wrote honestly
I like it and thank you for that!

I got name to lose.
You use dkbit98 whatever but my name is kevinovecka (Kevin Ovečka) and if I get banned for scamming people I dont think kevin.ovecka or something will help me with presenting my projects and businesses to people so they can remember it and in future have more trust to project.
Sure, but I can even create bitcointalk username Jack Dorsey or Mike Tyson, and that doesn't mean I am really Tyson or that my name or reputation will be affected.
I was talking only about Bitcointalk reputation and I didn't see you posting and confirming any of your personal profiles or social media accounts.
Nothing personal, you can also make good reputation in forum that is totally separate from your personal life, and I don't consider myself anything special because of my legendary rank  Cheesy

I bet they are here somewhere already Cheesy Cheesy
I knoow and I didn't mean you pull up over me or how to say and if it sounds like that I am honestly sorry legends here earned it for years and thats why we discuss here and I enjoy it because when I go for beer with friends you can imagine bitcoin discussion there Cheesy Cheesy

So you guys think I announced it too soon before I have some trust here?
If so please tell me and I will delete this post so it wont affect trust and seriousness of my website.
Dude you don't need to delete anything, you didn't do anything wrong, and everyone needs to start from somewhere.
One thing I think you missed to answer me, what happens if one party from multisig don't confirm the deal, can funds be frozen and for how long?
Let's say I send 0.1 BTC for a deal that other party accepted, but then he went missing without reply or confirmation.

Oka, thank you for nice comment, I am not sure what to do now I don't want to mess up the escrow site because I think it can be good one day
Sorry I didn't answer I overlook it

Confirmation is more times
You don't just create escrow and that is it (it has to be confirmed in time frame)
It has to be confirmed multiple times and after that there will be address generated to send funds to.
Seller has to add withdraw address and buyer has to confirm.
There is 2/3 "voices" so when it comes to dispute there is a must to give unresponding party some more time in dispute process to say what he thinks about it.
And if he don't then active party will provide proof of meeting escrow agreement and I will go with this party and give my voice to him.

Hope I explained well my English is not the best so if there is something I didn't explained well, please tell me.


So you guys think I announced it too soon before I have some trust here?
I don't think "some trust" would have mattered much.

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If so please tell me and I will delete this post so it wont affect trust and seriousness of my website.
Don't want to have bad start
I think you shouldn't change your ways because of what others might think of you. In my country we have a saying: "trust comes on foot and goes on horseback". It takes a long time to build trust, and I've been skeptical before about sites that earned my trust over time. But I've seen many more sites that turned into a scam. What you do is what matters.

You are right
Thank you

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I can ~ start cooperation with some experienced traders who will make some transactions and after some time write similar announcement after there were many more users who trusted my service and did 100+ (or more?) escrows
This may backfire, as it could look like you're "buying" trust.

For what it's worth: I would have merited your post, but I'm careful as some people see that as an endorsement (which Merit is not), so I'm more careful with certain posts.

True, don't want to buy it for a while better earn it
legendary
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So you guys think I announced it too soon before I have some trust here?
I don't think "some trust" would have mattered much.

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If so please tell me and I will delete this post so it wont affect trust and seriousness of my website.
Don't want to have bad start
I think you shouldn't change your ways because of what others might think of you. In my country we have a saying: "trust comes on foot and goes on horseback". It takes a long time to build trust, and I've been skeptical before about sites that earned my trust over time. But I've seen many more sites that turned into a scam. What you do is what matters.

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I can ~ start cooperation with some experienced traders who will make some transactions and after some time write similar announcement after there were many more users who trusted my service and did 100+ (or more?) escrows
This may backfire, as it could look like you're "buying" trust.

For what it's worth: I would have merited your post, but I'm careful as some people see that as an endorsement (which Merit is not), so I'm more careful with certain posts.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
I got name to lose.
You use dkbit98 whatever but my name is kevinovecka (Kevin Ovečka) and if I get banned for scamming people I dont think kevin.ovecka or something will help me with presenting my projects and businesses to people so they can remember it and in future have more trust to project.
Sure, but I can even create bitcointalk username Jack Dorsey or Mike Tyson, and that doesn't mean I am really Tyson or that my name or reputation will be affected.
I was talking only about Bitcointalk reputation and I didn't see you posting and confirming any of your personal profiles or social media accounts.
Nothing personal, you can also make good reputation in forum that is totally separate from your personal life, and I don't consider myself anything special because of my legendary rank  Cheesy

So you guys think I announced it too soon before I have some trust here?
If so please tell me and I will delete this post so it wont affect trust and seriousness of my website.
Dude you don't need to delete anything, you didn't do anything wrong, and everyone needs to start from somewhere.
One thing I think you missed to answer me, what happens if one party from multisig don't confirm the deal, can funds be frozen and for how long?
Let's say I send 0.1 BTC for a deal that other party accepted, but then he went missing without reply or confirmation.

One more thing, after reading FAQ page I couldn't see if you log and save any data like IP address and used Bitcoin addresses?
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Activity: 82
Merit: 38
Trusted Bitcoin escrow - escrowedbitcoin.com
So you guys think I announced it too soon before I have some trust here?
If so please tell me and I will delete this post so it wont affect trust and seriousness of my website.
Don't want to have bad start

I can advertise it or start cooperation with some experienced traders who will make some transactions and after some time write similar announcement after there were many more users who trusted my service and did 100+ (or more?) escrows

And again- thank you for your comments I don't take it personally I came here for discussion, constructive criticism and to hear what experienced guys think and advice.


I got name to lose.
You use dkbit98 whatever but my name is kevinovecka (Kevin Ovečka)
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I was sad that first 2 comments are not that positive as I wished
I see no reason to assume you're going to scam anyone, and your website looks like you put a lot of effort into it. But that doesn't mean I would trust your site.
Don't take it personally, I just don't trust many people when it comes to Bitcoin. I think eddie13 explains nicely how Bitcointalk works nowadays, and unfortunately many scammers have spoiled it for others. Don't let that discourage you, I like seeing new initiatives and wish you all the best.

Thank you Loyce and yeah I did sit on it for 2 months every day to make own solution because I dont like whitelabels Cheesy
I don't and yeah it is common thing nowadays and I think it is oka.
I also have been scammed for lifechanging crypto (freedogeon + some other)

Thank you very much I appreciate it so much
Hope one day you will use my service Cool
legendary
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I got name to lose.
You use dkbit98 whatever but my name is kevinovecka (Kevin Ovečka)
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I was sad that first 2 comments are not that positive as I wished
I see no reason to assume you're going to scam anyone, and your website looks like you put a lot of effort into it. But that doesn't mean I would trust your site.
Don't take it personally, I just don't trust many people when it comes to Bitcoin. I think eddie13 explains nicely how Bitcointalk works nowadays, and unfortunately many scammers have spoiled it for others. Don't let that discourage you, I like seeing new initiatives and wish you all the best.
member
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Trusted Bitcoin escrow - escrowedbitcoin.com
Replying on the post above, He meant reputation on this forum since you are introducing your services here and not on social media which your personal name matter. Besides that you are using your real name, There's no proof that it was real since there's no KYC here and most of the user is anonymous. Just try to follow high ranking user advice and your service might be better.

If you are showing resistance in all the valid comment you are receiving, it just mean that you are not really a trustworthy guy.

That is true
Will stick to that thank you
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Replying on the post above, He meant reputation on this forum since you are introducing your services here and not on social media which your personal name matter. Besides that you are using your real name, There's no proof that it was real since there's no KYC here and most of the user is anonymous. Just try to follow high ranking user advice and your service might be better.

If you are showing resistance in all the valid comment you are receiving, it just mean that you are not really a trustworthy guy.
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Trusted Bitcoin escrow - escrowedbitcoin.com
Honestly, I was scared to share with you here, because I appreciate this serious community and don't want to mess up my reputation and name
There's a problem: you don't have a reputation here. Let me put it this way: I wouldn't dare to offer escrow services here, even though I've done it a few times when asked.

Ok, I meant I don't want to get banned or be tagged as scammer, because how would new profile with other name help me.
I want to announce businesses and useful things here to get feedback or support...
Oh yeah I thought the same but I have to start somewhere and I mean it seriously so I dare to.
I have to work my way up

- Dispute system
How does this work?

Somebody raise a dispute, chat window will appear and then there are 3 parties chatting about what is happening and what is problem.

Official ministry of justice company listing website with my company profile
https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstrik-firma.vysledky?subjektId=1134780&typ=PLATNY
How does this prove you own the company? Next question would be to prove the company owns the domain name. Without proof, anyone could post that link with any domain name.

You can send me letter to this address and I will tell you what is in there.
Czech Republic is not really a tax paradise so jurisdiction here doesn't allow as much shit as in United Kingdom where homeless person can create company...
Here you need to be verified if you are clear (no any crime ever done) and that you are clear in terms of owing money to some institution.
And I tried to make my contact visible on all domains but wasnt able to do that yet (registered on forpsi) or in administration I can make a screenshot of me being owner.


don't want to mess up my reputation and name, but I told to my self fuck it, let's give it a shot
You don't have to worry about that because you have no reputation or name to lose in this forum with writing less than 40 posts so far.
It would be a good idea to add Bitcoin testnet if someone want's to test how everything works before using real Bitcoin.

I see that you are using 2 out of 3 multisig with seller, buyer and you, so that means that funds can be frozen for maximum of 365 days if one of this parties don't agree to complete the escrow.
Your website is showing allegedly completed 40 escrows, so was this real people doing that or some testing you did before?

I got name to lose.
You use dkbit98 whatever but my name is kevinovecka (Kevin Ovečka) and if I get banned for scamming people I dont think kevin.ovecka or something will help me with presenting my projects and businesses to people so they can remember it and in future have more trust to project.
Especially with Czech people because I have super rare name Kevin = foreign name not often used and Ovečka = sheep... And that speaks for itself I think.
And you may have super big activity and merit and I don't know what else
But if you will run some business I bet it wont be with dkbit98 name tag on it...

That is actually very good idea!
I will have a look at it and maybe will do there this test environment for beginners!
Time frame is more like protection against one party being inactive.
It means that when time they agreed on will run out escrow will automatically fall into dispute so they can say: hey, whats the problem and let's solve it.

Yes, that was real people I don't count test escrows.
Yeah it is super low number in compare to some other services but I am starting and don't want to cheat.


I also have been adviced to make a company website and play with cards open it will be good
So I will work on it

Thank you both guys for comments and your time spent exploring hope I answered properly
I was sad that first 2 comments are not that positive as I wished it will be but I understand you are legends who keep quality
legendary
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don't want to mess up my reputation and name, but I told to my self fuck it, let's give it a shot
You don't have to worry about that because you have no reputation or name to lose in this forum with writing less than 40 posts so far.
It would be a good idea to add Bitcoin testnet if someone want's to test how everything works before using real Bitcoin.

I see that you are using 2 out of 3 multisig with seller, buyer and you, so that means that funds can be frozen for maximum of 365 days if one of this parties don't agree to complete the escrow.
Your website is showing allegedly completed 40 escrows, so was this real people doing that or some testing you did before?
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Honestly, I was scared to share with you here, because I appreciate this serious community and don't want to mess up my reputation and name
There's a problem: you don't have a reputation here. Let me put it this way: I wouldn't dare to offer escrow services here, even though I've done it a few times when asked.

- Dispute system
How does this work?

Official ministry of justice company listing website with my company profile
https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstrik-firma.vysledky?subjektId=1134780&typ=PLATNY
How does this prove you own the company? Next question would be to prove the company owns the domain name. Without proof, anyone could post that link with any domain name.

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Activity: 82
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Trusted Bitcoin escrow - escrowedbitcoin.com
Hello guys,
I would like to introduce new service I created some time ago, because of me personally lacking non-scam, serious, anonymous, free to start, no keep balance, straight solution escrow service with some reasonable fee.

Honestly, I was scared to share with you here, because I appreciate this serious community and don't want to mess up my reputation and name, but I told to my self let's give it a shot, I am trying to do something useful, operating it with my company and did my best to make it as perfect as possible (over 400 test transactions and did my best to come up with good and useful features and functions)...

It already has some success in my measure and beginning expectations (40 transactions and I think also some review)

BTC FEATURES BTC
- Anonymous (you can access with any IP, not blocking any and you can use any email of your choice you have access to)
- No account needed
- Low amount to start escrow (0.000333 BTC)
- Review system (thumbs up, thumbs down)
- Automated process
- Straight solution
- Encrypted and secure
- By default operates with BECH32 (useful when funding Lightning wallet) but supports all addresses
- No balance needed
- FREE escrow start (some escrow services has this balance shit or you have to pay fee in advance in order to start it)
- Dispute system
- Time frame system
- You can start escrow as a seller or as a buyer
- Who will pay fee choice (buyer, seller or both 50-50)
- Fee is 0.8% + 2$ (I did research and I saw 1% on very few escrow services, but mostly 3,5%+ and some with fixed fee of 40$+ and some 10%+)
- Fiat currency, so you can see value of Bitcoin when starting escrow (EUR, USD, CZK)
- It has been translated to English, German and Czech (if you miss some language, let's cooperate and bring this to your country too and I will reward you with some satoshis Smiley )

BTC CHECK IT OUT BTC
https://escrowedbitcoin.com/ (or alias which set website to Czech and CZK bitcoinescrow.cz)

BTC GOALS BTC
I hope I can make this useful tool everybody will think of, when they will ever need good escrow service.
I would be very happy if there will be at least 30-50 transactions per month, because such server run node (which I do for the escrow) and it is very expensive and I would like to innovate and go further (for example upgrade server, because sometimes it is slow and I want customers to have the best experience and deliver perfect performance).
I would be happiest person if I will earn something extra to spend or hodl rather than big earnings but bad reviews and unsatisfied customers.
It will be nice to have this business runing as long as possible rather than few months and let it die, because I think technologically it is very nice solution.
I thought about making something more "Lightning", but let's talk about this in the bottom.

BTC COMPANY BTC
Company I fully own and operate with is pretty new, but I wanted to legally run my businesses and show I am real person.
BITCOIN s.r.o.
ID 11881101
Official ministry of justice company listing website with my company profile
https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstrik-firma.vysledky?subjektId=1134780&typ=PLATNY
I know there were many scams even though it was operated by company (for example one particular I was complaining on bitcointalk about- freedogeon.com but you can bet that nothing helps you in Czech Republic when you are scammer (unless you will go to politics Cheesy ))

I will appreciate any feedback, constructive criticism and maybe tips to make this escrow service serious and useful to as many people as possible.
I would be happy if you share your experience with me and if you have some question or something, you can contact me here (newbies messages allowed) or [email protected]



BTC LIGHTNING BTC
I was thinking about making Bitcoin Lightning escrow (also bought domain for it- bitcoinlightningescrow.com) and made it but I wasn't able to make it run perfectly...
I am new to lightning and I am not sure exactly how it works in depth, so invoice generating was ok, but opening channels when I tried to pay with electrum or blue wallet didn't work and I gave up then to pay all my attention and efforts at least to normal Bitcoin escrow.
And if there is some good dev, we can cooperate somehow, I would be very happy to support or start new technology and new idea, because I bet lightning escrow has big potential and I didn't see any so far...

Have a nice and successful day (and don't roast me or eat me alive  Grin )
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