Topic: Another betting fraud in Brazil - part 2 (Read 397 times)

I'll quote you both to answer
@Taskford, I believe that when players try to cheat the game with the result, it is a little easier to detect the cheating
But in the case of most of the matches they are investigating, the bettors tried to "outsmart" the match and not cheat the result, but rather the actions of the players, which would be much easier, under control, and draw less attention.
The players would need to draw a foul, a penalty or even just take a yellow card.
How many times don't we see players get yellow carded for stupid reasons? Like complaining too much, swearing at the referee, taking too long to charge a lateral etc? And even in big matches, such as the World Cup or the Champions League, you can see that there are many of these attitudes.
That is why it is so difficult to detect something like this.

And I agree with the bans, to me it's the best decision, just ban the player and make the example.

Today, I found that Eduardo Bauermann from Santos, was suspended for 12 matches in total.
In this case I thought it was too little, and at the very least he could have given a one-year suspension
Source

It might be easy to identify an action that is done as a result of a match of spot-fixing if it's done in a clear manner which shows the player has done something unusual, but there are also players who even do cheating but they do it in a way that they get away undetected and even the officials can't suspect them of being cheaters.

And about bans and fines, I think authorities are pretty strict with that these days, as said by OP in his post above, they can even ban players for life from soccer and also fine them for what they did, fines might not be an issue but a ban for a lifetime will surely make every player scared.

Oh well on big leagues especially when their sports is so famous match fixing is lessen since its easy to spot those incident nowadays. All have camera and anyone can upload the footage anytime they want that's why some of those doings got easily busted by people and officials working on the league. Maybe the best thing they could do if they want to eliminate this match fixing or any manipulation happening they should more higher fines or even players or team involve will get blacklisted on the league for sure many will afraid to do this action and they can make sure betting will be fair with that.

After a few days, several things have happened, and I will try to summarize:

The Superior Court of Sports Justice of Brazil has already started punishing the investigated, and the player Romário from the Vila Nova team has been banned (forever) from soccer, and will still have to pay a fine of 25,000 BRL. The other player Gabriel Domingos has been suspended for 720 days and will have to pay 15,000 brl fine.

I thought it was a good attitude to ban the player from soccer because it can be an example for future players who think of cheating the system.

Source

So far, there are 16 people in total indicted for involvement in 13 matches in total and 8 of these people are players
I suspect they may find more as time goes on, the justice in investigating at least 20 matches.

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And more relevant news, even a Brazilian player playing in MLS (United States) for the Colorado Rapids has been suspended by the club for suspected cheating in an MLS game
The suspicion is that he was paid 12,000 USD to receive a yellow card in a match against the Los Angeles Galaxy
Source

And finally, I believe that if all federations investigate, they will surely find a lot of fraud in many countries, including the European leagues.

It will probably lessen the likelihood of players getting involved but I do not think it will totally solve the problem. This kind of problem has been going around for a long time already and it can affect all kinds of sports whether it is small league or not. As long as there is gambling in any sport, gamblers will try to do this. I think it is the responsibility of the league to spot immediately if any of the players or teams are involved in any manipulation of the games. They cannot stop casinos from operating so they cannot stop malicious entities to try to manipulate the games. All they can do is try to spot any manipulation immediately and punish anyone involved heavily. Hopefully, it will be enough deterrent to keep the manipulation to a minimum.

This is very unexpected! Another Brazilian sports betting scam? They seem to have an insatiable appetite for controversies. Fantastic job! The ramifications ought to be enormous. I mean, the CBF requesting a probe from the Federal Police. This is serious business, folks! Clap slowly

Take a look at these 16 accused, all of whom are Brazilian championship-level athletes competing in either the A or B series. Surely they believed themselves to be the master manipulators! Unfortunately, they have been caught. Especially unfortunate is Eduardo Bauermann, who Santos fired. Ouch!

It's unbelievable that con artists keep getting away with it. Why can't we just have a good, honest game? But who wants stability anyway? Let's make the bookies lose money left and right to keep them on their toes. And don't forget about us, the honest betters, who study the games day in and day out only to be left baffled.

How ironic! We need to make sure that justice is administered in Brazil during this period of rapid growth for bookies. For the sake of the development and success of the industry, those responsible must be punished. The elegant dance of retribution can now commence.

I believe that in this case the betting platforms are probably the biggest victims we are talking about, along with the clubs
The platforms work with mathematical odds, and have a good estimate of how many bets will win or not.
When some people, or in this case several people, place bets that already know the outcome because they have direct influence, it would be like a loss for the companies.
Look at the case where they bet 175 BRL and won 43,000 BRL, I did a brief calculation here and the odds would be 245
Honestly speaking, how many of us make bets of 245 odds?

The people who placed the bets still made some of these "strange" bets and lost on purpose, supposedly so as not to attract attention, or to flag the account

I don’t think the betting platforms are to be blamed at this. For instance. They have no control over who wins and loses, let alone be provided control through fixing matches. This isn’t Peaky Blinders. This is real life and with a game as massive and as prestigious as the literal game that will decide which team will represent Brazil in the world cup, for sure crackdowns against betting platforms and bookies who want to take advantage by fixing matches towards their favor. Pretty sure the very same parameters and security contingencies that allowed the Brazilian Football Authority to find and disable this operation are just a taste of what’s to come.  

I don't think that even the authorities have much of an option to find a suspect, except they can keep an eye on every single betting platform and sportsbook operating within the country and look for any usual activity and then track them down with the help of the platforms they are using for all these activities and that might lead them to something.

But if the platforms are themselves involved and participating in all this, they will need to close them down as well and if they can't control this or find the suspects, they should probably ban all the betting platforms since that is the only option that remains.

That is what I am going to say, mafias. This is why people are just being silent and continue like there is nothing strange that happened because they are also worrying about their safety. They know what can happen to them once they report and fight these illegalities happening in sports betting. Despite of that, they still came up with a different version.

This is for others who are not aware yet and will not be able to identify the shady things going around. With the mafias controlling the media, they can edit or not include the footage where an obvious fixing have surfaced. This is why we think all games that we saw in our screens looks pretty normal.

Is the Brazilian League causing you concern? You guys got me completely. Corruption? Match-fixing? Major challenges. Additionally, online gambling may be a breeding ground for such problems. Let us be clear, though; the Federation is not entirely devoid of good people.

Let's use our brains instead of our fingertips. We require stringent regulations, vigilant oversight, and ethics education. The guilty should be punished, but we should also take preventative measures.

The government of FIFA? Need to get involved immediately! They can aid in cleaning up and putting things in order. For the sake of the players and the fans, let's band together and restore the Brazilian League to its former glory. That sums it up nicely!

It seems that match-fixing and football are two things that cannot be separated. No matter how football regulators arrange this, it seems that it will be quite difficult for them, considering that many entities in football need money, for example players who accept bribes so they can lose, referees are controlled, and many other cases. This is a problem that most often occurs in the football industry in any country and the case that occurred in Brazil is only the tip of the iceberg from the squalid nature of the football industry.

Most people are saying that this is because the teams pay less to the players and that is what leads them to take a bribe but that is not actually what it is, even if they are paid enough, they will still do this since it's human nature to keep wanting more no matter how much one has already got, and I'm sure they are paid enough not to sell their souls and the reputation of their country.

A person, no matter what part of the world they belong to, should have some respect for their country and should always try to keep its dignity intact, but nowadays, sportsmen don't really care about all this and they sell their country's dignity for some money.

This is never going to end.  I'm sure this is just one of many that happen every week.  When gambling on this you need to take that into consideration.  And the lower the stakes or league the better chance.  When players make low salaries for a particular sport they are more influenced to throw the game.  Same with the refs or umps.  Just part of the gig.  This isn't that surprising.

They no longer care about the sport that has brought them a name and popularity as players because all they think about is profit by participating in betting fraud.
Anyone who is only concerned with money is willing to do illegal things even though the risk can be in trouble with the law and lose public trust.
It should be known that people like this, even though they get punished, there will never be a sense of deterrence and one day when they are free they will still do these forbidden things.

Even though certain actions have been taken to gain public trust, if a trust has been lost and damaged, it will be very difficult to restore it to its original state.
The only thing that can be done is slowly making changes and eradicating all cases of fraud in sports betting as stated by the OP.

Seems like the Brazilian Soccer scene is going towards the shitter day by day. Never heard of a league getting outted for two different cases of fixing until them. Personally speaking, suspension of the players l, as well as having the whole Brazil barred from playing in the world cup for one run is an enough punishment to scare them from doing something like this again. Brazil is a very tough country to govern, with all the crime and other forms of illegal activity happening in the country every minute. It only males sense to give these people a much harsher punishment cause it is quite possible considering the country’s nature (and I don’t mean this in any form of racism) is that they’re hard as hell, and therefore even harder to control and provide punishments too cause they’d just laugh it off.

In the past, I often bet on the Brazilian league. some of the clubs mentioned in this thread are quite familiar to me like Fluminense, Cruzeiro, Santos. To be honest, I am wondering whether practices like this have been around for a long time. because, there are many oddities when I watch Brazilian League matches. referring to the link that the OP shared, it seems that online gambling makes it easier for the persons involved to carry out practices with various motives.

here I agree, that it is very important to punish all those who are involved and responsible, especially those involved in organizing. my guess is, there are some people in the federation who deliberately allow practices like this. I am not accusing, but referring to what has happened in my country. So, there has to be a major change if you want to eliminate practices like what you describe in this thread. whatever the type, whether it's match fixing, or other modes. well, involving FIFA and the central government is the right step to carry out a massive cleanup.

In fact, it's really great, isn't it? when everything is really fair. There is nothing better than being able to watch an exciting tournament without any manipulation. Match-fixing is one of the worst, it's worse than stealing. It causes a huge consequence just in exchange for favorable outcomes for the bettor 

Yeah, while i understand the motive, even if we set ethical issues aside i don't understand the reasoning behind it. I mean risk reward ratio just ain't worth it imho. I am assuming that sanctions would be kicked out and not being able to continue their career professionally. And having the audacity to think they are so smart that they wouldn't get caught is just mind blowing. I am assuming that these things are happening a lot if they really thought that no one would even look any possible irregularities twice.

Something fishy going on in Brazil's top flight? It's like eating your favorite dessert laced with artificial sugar; disappointing, right? But don't assume the problem is exclusive to the lower classes or developing nations. Cheating? It's even in the major leagues, so it's clearly widespread. The ability to intercept sneaky fouls and questionable handballs are two of the benefits. But keep in mind that video review can often be a downer. Consider this: the celebration of a successful goal is interrupted by a highly technical assessment. Like a pizza delivery that never arrives! Justice is served by VAR, but it eliminates the human element and the passionate arguments about referees' calls. Let's find the sweet spot where technology meets common sense. Passion, excitement, and a dash of mayhem best describe football

These are the kinds of problems that the government must deal with. This is outside the scope of any normal person to overcome as these cartels are definitely powerful and dangerous. Since they control majority of these platforms, they can manipulate the outcome to their liking, thereby making gambling a business venture on their end.

Unfortunately for us normal individuals, we really cannot do anything about it but to avoid engaging into their controlled casino. The more a person fights or attempts to show restraint, the more risk you put on your own life with it.

Every day there is news about the fraud, and as I suspected, it is bigger than we think

In the story below for example (in the link), the players placed a multiple bet of 175 BRL and won 43,000 BRL
In just one weekend they spent 260,00 BRL on bribes, won 730,000, so the profit was 470,000 BRL.

Source HERE

I can't answer everyone because there are too many messages, but I can say that players, even in Brazil, earn VERY well and have no need for bribes
--> Most players earn much more in one month of salary than the bribe they received.
--> Another thing is that it was not only in minor leagues, or the B series, players from big teams are also involved.

Here is some pics of two bets:

May be because soccer/football is not so popular in my country which is why I haven't heard of match fixing in here.
I mostly watch FIFA and other leagues and I think the players are already paid enough and hence no match fixing allegations are against them.

It is a big shame for this kind of scam to happen in a football nation like Brazil. When compared to other leagues in some European and other American countries Brazil has a well-organised league. Some of their players are well-payed. This match-fixing can destroy the beautiful game of football and make fans lose confidence in the game. Some gamblers will now doubt the transparency and reputation of the game of football and it might affect the revenue of gambling firms.

This act can also be caused by poverty and greed. Apart from clubs like Flamengo, Palmeiras, Atlético Mineiro, and others, most clubs pay their players poorly. This might lure them to engage in this criminal activity, making them receive as low as $10,000 to cause penalties or get booked. This money is just a stipends for players in some clubs in Europe. Poor earnings should not be a genuine justification for committing a crime. Their earning might also be enough to take care of their basic needs but some of them are driven by greed. They want to live above their means.

I agree every country has its own gambling lords and organized mafias to control gambling betting through game fixing, these mafias have contacts and money to lure top players and even officials to connive and fix the matches, this betting fraud in Brazil game fixing has their version in many countries, they are not yet exposed but it really is happening, many sports commissions are aware of game fixing but the mafias have control on some media for it not to leak.
Every country has its own watchdog but sometimes the watchdogs are on the payroll of these mafias.

It is quite sad to see that some athletes are willing to compromise their abilities and reputation for financial gain. Even though they might not be making enough money from their chosen sport, tampering with the rules would have a long-term negative impact on their reputations since supporters might never trust them again. They might pass up other chances in the future.
If other teams commit this fraudulence, the league organization needs to act quickly to correct the situation because failing to do so could destroy the country's football business in the coming days. Although I hope that this occurrence won't occur again, I'm sure that other players would still try if they were promised a large sum of money.

It will be very difficult to fight the "cartels" involved in match fixing. Unfortunately, this is not just a Brazilian problem, it is a global problem from Asia to Europe to South America it is rampant. There may even be international rings involved in this. For example despite gambling being illegal in India, there are still reported cases of match fixing that occurs in cricket. A great solution to this is that sports budget should be increased so that players in smaller leagues would get better renumeration.

It's a shame to hear that a fixed game occurred in a famous division like Brazil's league. I would expect such incidents to happen in lower divisions or third-world countries, but to have it happen in the A and B series of Brazil's league is quite surprising. Such stuffs like that destroy the fairness of the game and undermine its normal rules.

IMO every football game should now be equipped with VAR to check any incidents that may occur between players, referees, and even coaches in order to avoid any cheating or unfair play. I hope that we won't see anything like that again in the Brazilian football league as I am a fan of that league and really enjoy watching it from time to time.

They should, but since they aren't forced to, unfortunatelly their free will points to the shady way of earning easy money by deceiving and betraying the audience, the fans, the sport and their own profession. They show no love, passion or care for the sport they are playing and put money above everything in the world, as their final goal.

I think from now on, athletes will have to pass an 'ethics test' or 'psychological test' before being recruited by teams and leagues, so their personality can be analyzed by professionals beforehand in order to prevent future issues.

The purpose of fraud is to enrich themself and that is what people involved in betting fraud in Brazil do, even I suspect that this betting fraud many exist if the investigation is carried out intensively. Betting fraud is detrimental to many parties, but it also involves many parties, not only players but also officials.
This undermines fair play and severe sanctions should be applied not only to dismissal but also fines as well as imprisonment and banning these people from participating in this sport forever because they will likely repeat it if they remain involved as players or officials. Luckily the police are also involved in this investigation so that it can provide a deterrent effect to anyone who intends to do the same thing unfortunately one of the players who was fired was only 27 years old, meaning he still had a long career but fraudulent behavior ruined his career and he paid the price for his foolishness.

But the thing is they should practice integrity, whether they are famous or not they should learn that, that is what team should learn along the road. Games will be non sense and no thrill at all if most of team fixing their matches. It happens twice I think Brazil football federation or any Organization related to this should take an action and they should implement the law more efficiently.

I also think  most of these players involved  in this practice are already very shallow minded and I see no reason why I should sell my future over some few token now that I would have gained massively in the future.
This issue is becoming very rampart in the gambling industry  and I suggest it's high time we strive to put an end to all of this as it is killing the spirit  of trust in the gambling industry.
There should be serious regulations  and punishment attached to anyone who is found  involving in any form gambling malpractice  and match fixing

A lower league should not go and if a player indulges in match fixing, there will be a general feeling that he is cheating the gamblers in cricket and betting futures are ruined. Match fixing is a game that predetermines the outcome of a match or the outcome of a certain part of the match. Incidents such as match fixing are committed by violating the rules and regulations of a particular game. The main reason for match fixing is the possibility of financial gain through gamblers. Sometimes players can do match fixing even if they want to the main reason for this is corruption.

Lower leagues attract lesser attention and scrutiny, it can be a reason why it is always targeted by match fixers for their match fixing. It will not be easy to fix matches easily in the bigger Leagues that almost everyone pays attention to without raising attention and suspicion. Match fixing is terrible and can entirely affect the future of betting when people begin to find out that the games are no longer free and fair as they should be.

The sort of fraud in sports may still be found in other countries that have a huge number of persons interested in sports like football just like Brazil. Match fixing is possible in countries like Argentina, Mexico, Spain and others, although maybe not yet at the Brazilian level.

Brazil had been known as one of the countries where sports activities in their varieties takes place and they are known for these because almost every Brazilian engage in doing one sport or the other, but why scam is getting common to this same country becomes a thing of concern as people will begin to loose trust in the gambling aspect if the government through its agencies on sports affairs is not making regulations or taking necessary steps to curb this fraudulent activities in Brazil regarding gambling, many may lost trust in gambling because they will be afraid of getting scammed anytime they are interested in gambling.

I think people prefer to forget it and keep moving because it were happen so many times, but we have see if football is become the biggest sport and can't be replaced until now.   It's like a new norm I guess, not only when the team or player caught match fixing, but if a small team can beat a big team, many people will say it's match fixing even though there's no proof.

Match fixing is common in low leagues, but not in international leagues. This is the reason we should not go for low leagues because their matches can be fixed. Not the leagues only in your country, but many other countries too. Bookmakers are making it possible for people to bet on low leagues, but it is we that should know that going for higher leagues is better. Brazilian league is not a low league though but lower to top European leagues which manipulation can be reduced or not existing.

The big problem is that the governing bodies that are supposed to set an example, is just as corrupt as the players. We saw all the corruption that are done at FIFA and the high profile people that were involved in the past... and players think they too can get away with this, because the high profile people that were involved with that... only received a slap on the wrist. 

I stopped watching Cricket when one of my Cricket heros were caught with match fixing... and I wonder how many other people stopped watching Soccer after they found out about this fraud. (Do people still care.... or do they just accept that corruption and match fixing has become the norm?)

Brazil again, it's heartbreaking that this is becoming a very serious issues in the Brazilian leagues. Could it be because of the soccer culture in Brazil that this crimes is increasing. I think Brazil is the most nation caught for betting fraud.

If this continues then it'll discourage people from betting or watching the matches and this will create a very serious problem for the sportsbook as they go out of business and clubs might start finding it difficult to sell tickets too.

My solution to this match fixing betting fraud happening in Brazil would be for sportsbook to spot providing betting option for lower league for soccer in Brazil. They can resume later but for the main time, they should stop until they have things inorder.

Aside from the bookmakers and the teams and the honest bettors, I think the most affected of this kind of scandal is the sports and the sports leagues. They're gonna be losing fans and live audience because of this.

Well, if this is addressed immediately and everything will go back to normal, the damage could be minimal. But if the investigation finds out that it is actually so much worse than how it seems, who would be watching their games? If I am a fan myself and find out that fixing and other illegal negotiations are happening behind the games, I won't be following it anymore.

Very much. I think te level of importance we attach to these secondary leagues becomes a probable cause as to reasons why they involve in match fixing. People dint so much adorn the league or give it much importance and so, they hope people and regulators will as well turn a blind eye when it comes to monitoring the league but,its good that this isn't the case. Habits like this when not handled always grows to manifest in the top leagues.

Something am not very convinced about is, if the bookmakers or the teams involved aren't having something to gain out of this. In fact, every party with a stake is a party to ask questions.
As much as there could be victimisation, let the parties go down with the victims as well.

The more people involved or included on the circle the more risky it would be to be spilled out or to leak out and this is where it would really be busted and it is really just right that those who are involved should really be banned,get fired, impose huge violation fees or whatsoever which it is really just that right basing on what they had just did. In speaking about match fixing or players getting bribed or whatsoever then
it isnt really that new or shocking news. We've see several in previous years and there's no way that it could be completely stopped on upcoming years to come.
Good thing that this one had been caught up because if not then lots of honest bettors or even bookies itself would be fucked up hard just because the game
is just been rigged up. Not shocking or something new but its very unethical but for the sake of money then nothing surprises us anymore.

The good part about these scams is that sooner or later something will always go wrong and someone will lose a lot of money.
Either because a foul was not committed, a card was not applied, or something like that.
Then, the bettor who enticed the player will be very nervous for the money he lost, because he counted that event as certain and bet a lot of money on it. Then the "humiliated" player has a great chance of exposing the whole scheme, bringing the case to light.

Unfortunately, Brazil, a great football host, has many cases like this, but I only know the tip of the iceberg.
Even so, it is good to know that the CBF and the federal police are acting very seriously in the cases that are unraveled.

I totally understand why would it happen. Easy money for everyone involved. And i am pretty sure that they thought their circle was air tight. If no one admits anything no one can be charged. Problems however start to arise when people get greedy and more people needs to shut up. At some point someone will spill out something to their friends etc, like a good tip for a sure bet. And those people can speak when they are celebrating. This is why real conspiracies / frauds only have few people involved.

Depends on how strong the law in that country regarding sports betting fraud is. If those involved can just pay money in exchange for their release and freedom, there will be no good progress in the long run and the cycle will just continue. The big syndicates, or even called "mafia" have a wide influence that even the authorities can't make them shut down.

I'm sure some of those players, teams, associations, etc. don't really want to participate in that kind of sh*t but having no choice.

Well then, God bless Brazil and I hope they can regain the trust of the people, especially those die-hard sports lovers in their country.

Two things, a big syndicate is behind this and there are players willing to fix games in exchange for big money, this is very bad for every sports organization, players are getting good figures and they accept sponsorships, this is a big black for any sports organizations, it ruins people's trust and this will have an impact on the reputation of the organizations and possible a big reduction of gate receipts and viewerships
The only way to regain their status is for the organization to prosecute everyone involved and don't make a sacred cow or make an exception, the fastest or the earliest time that they can fire and charge these people the better.

I've only been hearing about news of fixed matches and I never thought of the possibility  and how it is been done because I've always pictured it to be a very expensive business and i was sure that if it was truly possible to fix matches, then it must be truly expensive but at the long run, it doesn't really seem expensive to fix up some local matches as I'm sure it wouldn't be easy or anything close to easy to fix International matches.

I hope that the law carries out the appropriate punishment on all the offenders involved in this kind if act so it will serve more as a lesson to other criminals  and wolves in sheep's clothing because acts like this are reasons why the gambling is still fighting global adoption.

Not a first time though as I have always knew that match fixing existed in soccer but never thought it would be in the Brazilian league looking at how it is somehow popular when it comes to other leagues. I always had a hunch that match fixing would be done in rural league where the players are under paid so they take the act as business for them to make easy cash but it still improper though for player to do so because its removes the joy from the game as it would now look like a stage fight or acting in the wwe.

And I tend to ignore it. Life is hard and it's going to keep kicking your butt. You either succumb to this and get shitty days every now and then, or you develop a rock solid butt and go on with your life.
I'm having a blast, even when I'm losing money and a stupid betting fraud in a country far away is not going to make it any worse for me.

I'm not even surprised. I know people who were involved in something similar in low league football in my home town and they were making pennies on this, each of the players were getting something like $100 per fixed match and they still found it worth the risk.

I believe that in all leagues there have already been scandals involving fixed games, some bribery of referees and players and the entire technical team, but currently with the appearance of technology and the much money that the sport has moved, things of this type are reducing a lot, it is no longer like 5 or 10 years ago, that's why in my opinion we shouldn't look at the Brazilian leagues as if all games were fixed, as if all results were manipulated, these cases that are being reported are something that does not influence the winner of the league or the quality of the teams, obviously the police need to investigate this and punish so that cases of this type do not happen anymore or that at least it is very difficult to see if this type of cases again

in my opinion, VAR technology should be put in all leagues and cameras in every corner of the stadiums and after each game there should be a team of inspectors in each league who go to see all the videos of the games of each day to see the reaction of the referees , the decision of the referees, the posture of each coach and players, with that it would be more difficult to have cases of manipulation of games, cases of fixed games, if any player or coach accepts bribes and cases of referees accept bribes.


We cannot exaggerate and think that all games are fixed in the Brazilian league, these are things that have happened even in Europe and Africa and Asia, the winners of the Brazilian leagues win on merit, and we just see how many good Brazilian players are playing in Europe , it's not by luck or manipulation, and because the Brazilian league has a lot of quality and these cases are not going to take away that great quality, obviously they are negative things when you see something like that but there are police to investigate and courts to punish

Personally, I'm not sure that the gambling industry would grow any stronger if cheating and fixed matches were completely eliminated. It's like corruption. As one of my acquaintances said - if the corruption component is completely eliminated, no one will be interested in being in power. I don't know how true that is, but there is some truth in it.

I think it's the same in sports - no one will promote something that doesn't bring him money. I'm sure there's a lot of intrigue surrounding sporting events, and the people in power don't pass up opportunities to profit from it.

When players or teams are weaker ones or they don't recognize any ethics - they prefer this route. They fix match results. They sometimes determine outcome of many things like scoring 2 goals at the start of game etc. I feel very sad about Brazilian football watchers and fans. When there are huge allegations about this kind of match fixing scandal, I directly lose my energy, motivation. It makes you feel like watching football is nothing important.

If you're really serious then you really are like a kid in this story. It's not a strange thing, it's almost a reality in places where football doesn't have too much influence. The larger the event, the higher the price to pay for match-fixing, so it is easier for national football leagues to be settled. It's not strange to me, I've seen a whole team get banned because of this 

Match fixing in soccer ? It's the first time I am hearing that because from what I knew, soccer players already get paid enough and so they don't require match fixing.
I have heard about match fixing in all other games but not in soccer. Everyone involved in these match fixing should be punished.
In my country there were few cricketers involved in match fixing and got caught and were banned from playing cricket again.
Their sports career came to an end and similar punishment should be given to those soccer players involved in match fixing.

Easy money for them. Since sports nowadays are also considered as "business" then a "job" yeah, right, it's business, selling the players game just to get higher pot for their own wallet, unfortunately. But im not talking generally, there are lots of legends in sports who are not into money.

Although in this particular case, the players themselves are heavily involved in the fraud, it just goes to show the intentional lack of regulations and laws. It all comes down to the politicians making this possible. I would not be surprised if the latest betting fraud in Brazil filled up some politicians pockets up to the brim. If they really wanted to fight this kind of corruption, they could easily do so. They would only have to look at other countries as an example. But I doubt it will ever happen. Too many bribes in the wrong hands.

Seems sad, really. Seeing as football is a national treasure for Brazil. You would think they would treat it with more honor and reverance...

The fact that the article calls it soccer is laughable. I hate that word. I mean seriously, who call its soccer?

Unfortunately there's a big scandal involving Barcelona in la liga too, check: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/04/football/uefa-president-aleksander-ceferin-barcelona-scandal-spt-intl/index.html



The player who is in the example now is Santos' Bauermann, who accepted 50,000 BRL for the scheme.
Detail, his monthly salary is around 200,000 BRL, it is illogical that the player does this. There's nothing to justify this...


It's sad to see this kind of news, but it's important to know and now CBF and Police are doing the investigation, probably in all clubs, for sure there's another players, and more will be discovered. I say that it is important because only by punishing those responsible can we have a more honest and fair soccer.
We bet without any inside information, everyone should place their bets in this transparent way.

I feel so bad for the bookmakers because they'd lose. Some of the questions that came to mind after reading this are
- Would the players still allow themselves to be bribed if they were paid well?
- Is jail term the perfect punishment for this?


They need to start at the football academy level and talk to the upcoming youngsters about the dangers inherent in engaging in this. Maybe start a campaign where they bring in some Brazilian football legends to add their voice to it because it is killing the love for the sports in Brazil and may even affect how scouters see players from that region.

Sports regulators like FIFA have probably come a long way battling match-fixing but there will always be new syndicates that will try to make their way into these smaller leagues again. I bet what was uncovered in Brazil isn't going to be the last one.

Until there is a solid case against any referee that gives unfair advantage to Barcelona in their matches then it's still safe to say that La Liga is the better league to bet on.

That should be expect to happen in Brazil, where corruption is recognized as one of the main traits of the nation, besides the fact sportsbooks are insanely popular right now. If you watch any games on the television you will have an impression the championship is fully sponsored by bet houses, because there are so many of them everywhere! They are on the TV's propagandas, players' uniforms, field's ads, press conference's ads...

There are popular local celebrities and athletes promoting sportsbooks as well. It was just a matter of time until some wicked players started being recruited by scam schemes involving frauds on sports matches. Since they are greedy for money, and for some reason can't improve performance on the field, they appeal to cheatery and illegality. That is the final result: an industry you can't trust anymore...

That's how money works in any field. It is no longer passion and enjoyment to all players, to some, money matters more. Would it be worthy betting on these games still? I'd say yes. I agree that not all players are into bribery and some are still passionate. But the bottomline is, not a single player would dictate the match outcome so hopes are still there. Even with other sports, I agree that such thing is also evident. But what is our option? To not bet? I disagree. Atleast, I do still enjoy my gambling experience inspite of the idea that results might be rigged. I somehow accepted that fixed matches are existent in sports industry just like with other sport tournaments.

We see that these are only a few players but in reality, those players are the only people who are caught red-handed surely there are more of them there and probably we also have this kind of scenario in known sports as well and they are just being careful not to get caught because if they do, they will gonna ruin the sport and might lose the trust of the people forever. Just like this one, now that they are transparently known for doing this, they will lose their fans and spectators because there will be no thrill anymore to watch and they will also probably lose their sponsorship as well because of the obvious reasons.

I would like to add they do not have a real love for the sport, because if they do they will not let these things happen, and only a big syndicate can do this, both the syndicate and the players made money they made the public believe that they are doing their best and they deserve the trust of the public.

The commission should do everything to eradicate corruption and to regain the trust of the public again, even to the extent of putting the best players of the league in jail and banning all those responsible to game fixing.
Of all the things the general sports public confidence is very important, you lose the trust of the public and that could be the end of sports in that country.

I am not surprised by this kind of case and it seems that the same case is not only happening in Berazil but in several other countries, it's just that it might still be uncovered and the first thing to know is Brazil.
In fact, Brazil is a country with a fairly good development of the sports industry. We can even see from their past history that they have won the World Cup, until now they have succeeded in producing many great football players, so it would be a shame if there were many players linked to cases of sports betting fraud there.

It is possible that you are right in saying that they do not get enough salary or benefits so that they dare to risk their careers to participate in sports betting scams.

Higher payments will not entirely get rid bribery or fraud in sports, it's funny you're mention La Liga here. There are many cases where the referee is more favored to Barcelona, although it were not found Barcelona bribed the referee, but the referee always make a controversial decision and it give an advantage for Barcelona.

Money is the most important thing in capitalism and human is never been satisfied even if he have a lot money, he will keep collecting until he death.

I am not surprised, because such will happen where there is less payment for the players, In my country players are been paid higher fee to lose a match that's why I am not surprised, it's better to focus on popular league matches like Seria A and La Liga.

But seriously, something like this can be going on in the background too, how will anyone know that big leagues are clean of bribing too? There is no way you will know, but the only thing that makes me believe that bigger leagues are safer is because they are well-paid.

Higher payments get rid of bad intentions and bribery in sports.

This is the typical downside of players involves in gambling. Probably they are not getting enough pay or they are not properly monitored for gambling involvement. They should make the punishment brutal to make this kind of unprofessional activities subsided.

Any information on the root for this kind of issue. Is Brazil recorded this kind of incidents multiple times in the past? Because there might be some organisation that being rampant on rigging their sports.

Ah! What is fixing matches becoming? It is even getting beyond fixing matches, like this one:


Player are getting bribed.

I will not be betting more than EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundesliga and Lique 1 in France. I bet on Brazilian Seria A, Seria B and some other leagues and cups in Brazil. I can not trust this kind of leagues again.

After the first one that @alegotardo posted HERE

Now they have discovered yet another big sports betting fraud scheme in Brazil, it's like the part 2 
The repercussion in Brazil is such that CBF has already asked the Federal Police to investigate.
So far there are 16 defendants involving players from the A and B series of the Brazilian championship.
Including the most notable so far is the Santos player Eduardo Bauermann, who has already been removed from the team and will probably be fired.

Here you can check the news in English: https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/brazil-prosecutors-charge-16-alleged-soccer-match-fixing-scheme-2023-05-10/

Some even considered paralyzing the Brazilian championship, but this has already been ruled out by CBF, which is working together with FIFA to investigate more efficiently.

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.