Topic: Another Halving, Another ATH (Read 754 times)

Alt coins deflating I think might produce some demand for BTC as thats the most common exchange but I think it just relates in parallel to the hype in BTC itself.   2014 also had alt coins and similar ideas of starting a new blockchain and the growth would be continuous from start until it eclipsed other older ideas, especially a big part was faster confirmation time as I remember.

So its happened more then a few times now and probably also in future we'll see future developments.  I dont think attempts at innovation are a negative, it should not be the case that BTC fails for the existence of something lesser being possible even if some are confused and hold it as a negative against anything cryptography related.   Its think its said every economy naturally tries to destroy itself, its part of a process that strength is tested in order to continue to exist and something along these lines was foreseen by the original protocol team I'am fairly sure.
   Its a cycle it will repeat, in short that wont end.



Why not both, understanding through simplification is what I aspire to.   Apparently Da Vinci said the ultimate Sophistication is Simplicity.
 Imo simple is no bad thing by itself, just so long as we can accept we can never know in absolute certainty.

I relate simple to consensus which is what markets move towards in resolving price action over time vs volume of sales.

The ico craze that happened back then was complete madness, back then people still thought that a new coin will surpass bitcoin and they all thought their own coin was the one that was right for the job, people fell for that and invested a fortune in coins that were not worth anything only to lose it all.

I really think the ico craze was responsible for the crash we saw in bitcoin and that it delayed the path towards global adoption at least for a few years, and even if the interest in altcoins was high once again during this bull run it was nowhere near to what we saw back in the day of icos.

That's the unique thing about bitcoin, which when we can take advantage of the opportunities that exist, of course it will give us an advantage, a fluid price movement up bitcoin can of course provide benefits for the holders, but when the price goes down, will we lose? I don't think so, because with a decrease in price, of course we can buy back bitcoin at a cheap price and from the experience that when the price of bitcoin has decreased, it certainly won't take long for bitcoin to move up and it will most likely break the record high price again and of course positive market sentiment factors and supply demand are the main drivers of rising bitcoin prices.

The increase in bitcoin price didn't happen after ICO was a big craze, ICO craze happened because bitcoin price was higher. Bitcoin became so popular back in 2017 that people got into it and I mean a lot, we reached 20k for the first time but it was also the first time ever we broke over 5k as well, think about it, we broke ATH by 5k and then 4x did that in a single month, it was a crazy period and everyone was getting involved.

After a certain while people realized bitcoin couldn't go up even more, they couldn't make 10x profit from it, they could maybe 2x at the very best but why push it so hard for that? Meanwhile altcoins were going up like 5x or 10x crazy and there was one coin that skyrocketed each week, eventually people got bored out of that as well and started to put their profits into crazy ICO that turns out to be scams most of the time but could make them rich if they get in early. Resembles anything? It is literally what is going on today, except it is not ICO but it is DeFi.

I see the increase in the price of bitcoin is nothing more than the spinning of the wheel where when the price is very high, it will spin down in a very fast time, although not too long it will go up again. on the side can be considered an opportunity where the wheels drop down, can be bought in sufficient quantities.

Halving has a positive impact on the market and prices turn Bullish and it usually happens almost a year after halving. That is why many investors come to crypto during halving as they are thinking about easy profit next to this. I don't mind who is supporting with the pump but I was sure the market skyrocketed after that, and mostly it happens that prices cross high on the previous ATH. Might we are thinking of the same scenario this coming halving and many were preparing for that.

It's happening again now because looks like Bitcoin is dropping little by little each day and this sounds like what happened after the 2017 Bump.
The thing is that Bullrun seemingly gone away now?

Well, I just realized that some bitcoin halvings, always have a boost for each increase. like, in 2016, the bitcoin halving happened, but the rise in bitcoin price also coincided with the popularity of ICOs, and it pushed bitcoin and altcoins to reach the new ATH. whereas this year, the new ATH was supported by halving as well as Tesla and made bitcoin and many altcoins reach the new ATH. however, if the halving occurs again in the future, and there is great support from investors, then ATH could just be achieved. however, it all depends on the conditions.

Let's talk about other ATH when the bull run is over, currently, the market is still bullish so we can still expect that anytime the price will pump and BTC will again break its current ATH. This year's bull run, it started with the halving and it was really true that we will see a bull run, it's just that this time its bigger as people are looking for a good investment since the economy is struggling due to the pandemic.

Enjoy the profit, while the bull run last, my only wish is we have a long bull run because we've had a very long bear trend, eventually bear trend will come but whatever profit we've lost in the last bear trend we can regain it and prepare for the coming bear trend, the halving have done a lot of great things and this last halving so far is the best.

I think it has to fall back a bit more before new highs, usually thats what happens.  The price rises turn sideways then down some until its left at a longer term price level that is exhausted further offers before once again starting to accumulate around progressive gains in revenue and the protocol changing its block reward.   Seems the full cycle is what allows for such a rise, cant just skip one stage that easily.

Ethereum price is already above $4,000 now. Sure, it hits a new ATH, but not so surprising because we are still in altcoin season.
Well, it is true that another halving, means we have another ATH. Not only for Ethereum, but other altcoins also get their new ATH. At least, this already happened on the last few halvings. Let's see what will happen in the next halving, whether we also can have another new ATH or not. We don't know exactly, but likely to have the same scheme.

Well i also see the huge increase of some altcoin this days, i believe that this is beause of the bull run. It has really no big difference from the past bull run that happens in 2017 the only difference there is the price of bitcoin and eth it is now almost 3 times high from the ATH of the last bull run After this bull run huge dip may happen, and maybe in the next few years after that dip another bull run with another ATH may happen again in again, this was really exciting and i always wait and prepair for the next halving for good.

I agree that the halving that happened in 2020 is the halving with the best effect compared to the halving that happened before. So I can't imagine
how the effect of the halving that will happen in 2024, should be even better. In fact, almost all the coins I hold now reach the new ATH, this is
a really great effect, and I believe the effects of the 2020 halving can last longer, it looks like until the end of this year the effects of the halving
will still be felt. Regarding Dogecoin, the increase was not only affected by the Bitcoin halving,  but Dogecoin did indeed increase its price drastically
due to Elon Musk's support. So my advice is to be careful for those who want to invest in Dogecoin.

Because when people try to understand the markets they try to simplify them so they can achieve this goal, the problem with this is that they generate an oversimplification of what the markets can do thinking it has to follow some kind of secret rules and somehow they can use this knowledge to trade the markets and get profits.

But anyone that has made an effort to learn more about the markets knows the truth, the past is useful as a reference but it is never going to be enough to predict what will actually happen as the circumstances of the market are always changing, for example this bull run is completely different than the previous one because now we have institutional investors, we have a lot more people invested in bitcoin and it happened after the worst pandemic on the last 100 years, something that did not happened during the previous bull run.

It's the best halving effect so far, I can't imagine how good the coming halvings are but I have not seen the full effect of the halving until we finish this year, some of the altcoins have reached and break their all-time high, and Dogecoin is hitting big time right now and it's unexpected, after the last halving we have seen a lot of surprise and we will see more throughout the year.

Agree with another halving is another ATH. But maybe my concern is my hope about bitcoin to be stable and altcoin can be increased for now. Because with that people will be more active to trading and maybe can attract others to adopt bitcoin too. When that happens, maybe we can get more bonus with bitcoin price that more increased and steadily reach new ATH before halving.

The rally in ETH is because of the hype behind the ETH 2.0 upgrade and for a long time their plans were not going according to their plans but now they have a path to the next upgrade and everyone is expecting that the issues with the network will be sorted and so is the reason the price is rallying right now and if those situations are not sorted then we will see a major correction in ETH.

In terms of overall market situation the bull run is still going strong and until the bear market is dominated we will see these kind of range bound trading.

The market first showing huge drops before it spike and hit a new ATH again. Coz every time we saw halving, everyone is preparing themselves filling up their bag with coins in preparation for the Bullrun. People aren't wrong with this and that is why they are taking advantage when the market turns down. But with the current market situation, I really don't know when the bearish will start. Or, are we still having this momentum until the next halving? That is something we need to find out or have no chance we see the market in a bearish situation...

If the psychology of the Bitcoin market doesn't change then  it is highly possible that new ATH will be achieve on the next halving.  I still believe that there is still lots to grow on Bitcoin market.  The world is not yet saturated and if ever it saturates the world, imagine every single person in a family own BTC, then we can see an exponential increase of how much Bitcoin is today.  The halving brings new hype and exposure to Bitcoin thus more investors to join the trend will surely hop in.

We can surely say that if we see dips from Bitcoin it is only to get momentum to another ATH, the possibility of a price hike when another Halving occur is very huge, again there will be a momentum that the volatility always works that way,

ETH is going smoothly and as of now have $3,538.18 USD at the moment let's see at the end of this year if there will be another All-time high for Bitcoin and other Altcoin, Halving is just another trigger for a rise in price but the price will surely lift up when Bitcoin gain momentum again.

I agree with this one, The dominance of Bitcoin is dropped, it means many people turn their investment from Bitcoin into altcoin. And voting from a big telegram group and the result many people hold altcoin than Bitcoin. People who join in crypto many of them just looking for profit, and I think investing in Bitcoin is not worth it anymore this year. A lot of altcoin with a low market cap can grow 10x or more and people prefer to choose it than Bitcoin

I am sorry I could not figure out you are talking positive on bitcoin markets or not. I agree that we are going to experience something different than what we had in the past bull runs still I believe everything going to be in positive side for bitcoin markets like in 2017 we had seen market growing 20x from previous ATH and this time it may be 30x to 50x also.

Or at least getting us 10x growth (from last cycle's ATH) this year will be making this bull run too excited. I am sure something unexpected to follow-on the recent correction. I am not sure how many of us are prepared to embrace including myself as I do not have big money left to buy more on the dips.

That is most likely what we have to expect for the next Bullrun. But of course, we can't also sure that old coins will still be making it or they will be out of the race by these new projects. Adoption is also a big factor in such changes.

But anyway, we expect a lot of changes coming along on our crypto journey. What we have experiencedd this time might be possible it is different in the coming years. I will not be going to make myself too excited as we are still not sure about the upcoming. But what I need to do now is to prepare for a huge change.

I think that the altcoins too will have alot of improvement in price and chasing to do which we have seen with Ethereum, bnb despite bitcoin a little slow this month but they have maintained some good profit. That is also signifying a kind of difference from last bull in 2017. Watch out that altcoins may have some different surprises.

Yeah, but the resistance was too strong while bitcoin also struggling to reach the aim of $60k this May. Based on predictions I've seen last month, there's no certain assurance that price increase steadfastly and it still remain unpredictable. However, other individuals made their speculations but in reality it felt so thrill and breathtaking to see another ATH again.

I guess it is depend on the situation, we won't see a huge increase after the halving event if there is no coronavirus. A price increase or the formation of a market bull run in the first place is when many people are afraid of losing the value of their assets, so they are forced to choose an asset that is not affected by the economic conditions of a country.

And the first place they chose was gold, but a new trend emerged because bitcoin was considered to have the same characteristics as gold, even more modern, so that bitcoin became a new trend and was chosen by many investors and we saw the price offered for 1 bitcoin was very high and this was a positive sign. for bitcoin development. And I guess it is not about halving effect but bitcoin has a real value and deserve to have a hige price like now.

This bull run is quite different from that of the year 2017 which was controlled majorly by the whales. This time around, we have institutions involved and the might and richest people are all in the game. The scenario will definitely be different.

You cant really tell people on not to think on that way because we have seen these scenario in the past and it keeps repeating on some point but honestly we cant really precisely rely with these history or past events

to look up on what would happen in the future but basing with adoption and recognition alone then you can eventually tell that its less likely for it to happen.Drops might happen but wouldnt really be the same into those times

or back into those previous years.Just let them be on whats up into their minds, thing here is  that they do know on what are the things that they would do into a particular situation.

What we do always mind off is on how to make profits despite of this very unpredictable behavior of the market.

for now, a theory about the New Havling New ATH is correct, but I don't know about the following year ... because now the dominance of Bitcoin in the Market has dropped to <50%. little by little the influence of Bitcoin on the dump / pump of all coins may not be felt anymore. this makes the market healthier

Bullrun has been in since March 2020 after the corona pandemic was announced by world news,
yes it had a dump of up to $ 3000 then Bitcoin increased to $ 60k in a span of 1 year, of course this is very amazing for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies,
if you still don't understand about bullrun yet, you have to learn first, Halving will always give bullrun to Bitcoin, so maybe this bullrun will end at the end of 2021.

Why do people constantly cling to the idea that just because one thing happened in the past it has to happen in the future as well? I mean think about it, bitcoin did dropped in 2018 after the huge altcoin run, but that wasn't the case in 2015 when it dropped? So, maybe it doesn't have to happen all the time, there are other reasons for a fall, there are other timings for a fall.

I am not saying that it will never fall, obviously we will have a correction, we had one a month ago and we will have one in the future, that is the truth about crypto where we could always make a profit from the drops if we wait long enough so they are not a bad thing, just wait for it to have a correction and when it drops just buy more of it if you want to. Obviously we are going to keep going up as well, both up and down will happen, do not be shocked when one happens, it is not because of anything, that is just how the market works.

It is unlikely we are going to see an exact repetition of what happened back then, people forget that we got the segwit upgrade at that time and many coins were forked out of bitcoin creating even more interest in buying and holding bitcoin before the networks split so you could have coins in both chains.

Now there is nothing like it on the horizon but the fact that now we have institutional investors buying bitcoin will completely change how the market plays out from now on, the market is ranging right now but that is most likely because institutional investors are just accumulating coins and once they are satisfied with the coins they got we will begin to see the market moving upwards again.

When people like you who are all hating bitcoins for some reasons; what else we could expect from a bitcoin hater other than mentioning about ATH is already attained. Being a bitcoin lover, I like to bet like we are just in the beginning parts of stronger bitcoin bull run of 2021; we need to travel a long journey ahead and only after the ATH will be expected. Who know, the bull run may run to even 2022 as well by considering how many big corporates start showing interest on bitcoins.

Bitcoin's halving is one of the most linked up events on why Bitcoin's price is going up but for me I don't see any connection as all. In your scenario where Bitcoin only moved up because of last year's halving the truth is Bitcoin alread had a reversal as early a year before the halving date and it just shows that it is more of a market cycle rather than historical data pointing out that Bitcoin will be move in this way again and again. Simply the halving really doesn't affect the demand and supply of Bitcoin as the value of it depends entirely on the demand for the existing circulating supply on exchanges it doesn't even make Bitcoin "scarce" at all as the total supply doesn't change on the block reward.

Alts follows Bitcoin and so does Bitcoin will benefit some gains during alts season as well. Remember how Bitcoin reached a $19k ATH in 2017 when the ICO becomes a trend that year.
Doge was being hyped up so hard today and It has a chain reaction to Eth. So we're seeing these both alts rising rapidly.
I'm expecting Bitcoin to sit around the $60,000 level this month.

The macro trends are certainly pointing towards a top.

As you said, generally BTC hits another ATH approximately 1 year after the halving event (which is just about now). There is still quite a bit of bullishness left in the marketplace, but in terms of BTC price it has been stagnating over the past month or so at around $50k.

Resistance seems quite strong at $60k, although I wouldn't count another rally out just yet. The bull market is now close to being a mania, and people can act in all sorts of irrational ways. Heck, 6 figure BTC isn't even out of the question.

Halving is always chosen to be a good occasion for an enormous bull run of cryptocurrency. Bitcoin has been through 3 halvings and it always creates new ATH during this time. Holding bitcoin is a good choice but right now, altcoins are thriving so I would advise you to pick some of your funds to invest in alt. Some alts can bring you 1000% in profit, especially IDO, IEO, or anything that is the same as ICO in 2017 because you can multiply your balance in just a few weeks.

No matter how blossom the market can be, knowledge is a must. Choose some coins inspiring you, make some researches and note out whether they are appropriate to invest in or not. Even in the uptrend, people can lose their money due to high number of scammers and thieves.

It isn't right that we assume that this is the last ATH in bitcoin prices when we know that there is still a lot of time and those time is going to be opportunities to prove that there is another ATH. I hope that we can really see 100k this year because I think that with bitcoin touching the 60k mark is a proof that it can go up more than that and 100k isn't a pipe dream anymore.

Bitcoin growth currently stands at or less than $ 64000, which means bitcoin is almost at the peak of the trade, to the possibility of hitting a price above $ 64000 between yes and no. but this is very worried, where the maximum peak will reach, then the decline will begin to appear.

for investors, must be very careful in investing. but we hope the bitcoin should be between $ 64000 or a value above.

I agree with you because bitcoin is still trying to survive and have more support to make bitcoin stay at a price now.
Sooner or later, the bitcoin price will start to rally to the high price and although we do not know that time, we can prepare ourselves so we do not miss the chance to sell at a high price.
If we look at the bitcoin price move, it seems the price still struggles not to go down deeper than before.
The positive bitcoin news can support the price to lift the price to the high price and maybe we can see the price back to $60k soon as that will be the next target before reaching $64k.

Who says that ATH happens every End of the year? have you checked the data from each end year?

it can happen today and will remain the level till December ? but this doesn't mean that the All time High will be recorder in the last quarter meaning October,November,December time.
But i doubt that there will always be a dumping nowadays because of the biggest company that holds and support bitcoin.

Well i am going to agree in the fact that assuming this month ATH will be the last ATH of bitcoin for this year was too early because usually every trader, a member of the crypto community usually waits for the end of the year to witness another ATH of bitcoin. What was good about crypto market today was the thought that even if we are far from the end season of the year yet we are witnessing yhe continuous market exchange rate climb up.

It will take time and as for the moment, it's time for some of the altcoin bull run, DOGE, ETC, VET, WAVES, Telcoin and OKB are some of the altcoins that multiplied their price since the year started. The time for BTC could be over or its just time for it to wait.

Lucky for those who had bought and wait. Just like they say "Blessed are those who HODL"

probably mate,, because bitcoin easily reach that value in just a short period of time when it started pumping and showing a high trend within weeks in the market.. See the growth rate at this point its showings as well that still have possibility to surge more despite of some fluctuation due to some sell off  . Indeed it didn't affect too much so this means bitcoin still have strong resistance in my opinion and the potential still higher because also mostly news now around social media are good news when it comes bitcoin,

I'm already started to miss the $10,000 price of Bitcoin where we are stuck there for a few months before we started to rally high and reach $20,000.
And as the market remains in this situation (bullish), I'm started not to think about reaching it back again. I know and we can't deny that many people are waiting for the market crash but sound like it was hopeless.
And I was wondering how the next halving could affect the trend or it even helps the market not to dump again as it is possible that people will start filling their bag as early as possible before.

It is still too early to say that the bitcoin ATH that we saw at $ 64,863 is the highest peak for this year, we are likely to see much higher peaks, expectations indicate that we can see 100k$ before the end of this year, this possibility is very large with the increasing entry of large companies The market and buying more huge quantities of Bitcoin, buying these large quantities will cause a shortage of supply in the market and an increase in demand, and this leads to an increase in the price.

I do not think altcoin's bull market got any power to influence bitcoin market in any means. I agree money in-flow may get deviated to altcoin markets still I do not agree all new investors will go for investing into altcoins. So, this is not ranging time. It is like power gaining time for bitcoin which makes some altcoins to roar but when bitcoin gets into action then those altcoins will get back to their usual routines.

No. In 2017, most altcoins did not have their ATH but only in 2018. When bitcoin is into bullish mode, most altcoins will remain stagnant and when bitcoin enters into stable zones, altcoins may get into their strong bullish mode.

$64k is just the beginning of the bitcoin price, which can still increase in the next month until the next year because I guess the bitcoin price will be more worth than just $64k.
Maybe the bitcoin price will be more than $75k but it will not happen in a short time because bitcoin itself needs more support and demand from people out there to invest in bitcoin.
But I admitted that people could say anything about bitcoin price, including they can say that bitcoin will jump to the lowest price and back to the price before halving.
Maybe bitcoin needs to have another correction before the rising of price again and that can give the altcoin time to increase and reach the next ATH.

I think it is just a circle and gradually the price will keep appreciating. Bitcoin dropped from the ATH @ $64k down to now at $55k and the gains I see has been pushed to Ethereum which is now at $ 3,300 and some other altccoins appreciating also. The circle may go back to bitcoin or it may just be a bear time but nobody will say the range price will head off to.

No surprise for seeing new trend about new tech popping up but if you don't want to get scam on any of those well you can focus on existing alts which have promising future or can simply select bitcoin for long term hold since imagine how far it goes this days and maybe un next halving we can see more ATH since the price consistently pump when halving cames.

I don't compare the 2017 scenario to what we are experiencing now, because I'm going to be greedy and will be on a buying spree on just any token or coin that I can stumble, this new bull market we need to do a lot of research because scammers are also creating projects that are an imitation of projects that attract a lot of investors, one of these are the DeFi projects.

But remember that not all halving brings ATH to Bitcoin price so be aware and never expect a perfect run each time (Every 4 years)

But indeed that These past halving , bitcoin really made a Move and great ranking.

What are you talking about, there is no halving in near future or near past. We are roughly between the two halvings and ATH prices don't happen on halving, they happen a long time after the halving. For example the bitcoin halving before the previous ATH in 2017 happened in mid 2016. The last halving we had happened mid 2020.
So if anything the new ATH should happen similar to 2017 by the end of 2021!

As for the shitcoin known as ETH, it is not rising at all, in fact it has been dumping ever since 2017 with small dead cat bounces. Back in 2017 when it was pumped this shitcoin reached 0.15BTC and has been dumping consistantly to the point where it lost 94% of its value.
Now that bitcoin is temporarily stable all shitcoins are pumping which is why ETH also went up a little to 0.06BTC which is still 60% dumped.
Shitcoins like this are lucky because when they get dumped against bitcoin 94% but bitcoin price goes up 1770% the shitcoin prices in USD seems like rising while in reality they have been dumping slowly.

It is like when you are on a train and walk in the opposite direction (to the back of the train), when someone looks at you from outside they still see you moving forward in the same direction as the train but in reality you are walking backwards.

This is another attempt to try predict the future price of Bitcoin using the lens of the past halving. I never agreed on this approach. Although there is always a gradual increase in the price of Bitcoin months after the halving, the situations during all the previous halvings are different from the current situation. The adoption in the past was slow and low but today the adoption is fast rising and is growing very high with even the very influential names such as Elon Musk, Michael Saylor, Jack Dorsey, etc are already joining the call for everyone else to get into Bitcoin.

Exactly, altcoins may have good gains in the last month or due and been cutting on bitcoin's dominance. But it doesn't mean that they can sustain that for a long time unless we are in a bear market, which is not. So sooner or later after altcoins dumps again, smart investors are going to shift to bitcoin and another all time high for us this month. Currently, bitcoin went from $58k to $55k now, but there's no need to panic here, just how money are flowing, bitcoin-> altcoin market and then vice versa.

My original reckoning in 2019 was that 2020 would not see a price rise initially just consolidation.  What we've seen is ignited by the monetary expansion and special moves in reaction to the lockdown events.   Thats not a normal year or backdrop to predict where does BTC go from here, its hard to predict and we might still be transforming and seeing the results of excess FIAT in its inflationary effects.   Add a year onto your schedule perhaps, its true we go in cycles but I think we have to accept the prior range was incorrect for this new lower dollar value and other currencies.

Nowadays, surely now if many are running to buy to sell, or vice versa ... it happens every season with extreme high peaks, some survive others maintain "confidence" but not price (shitcoin)...

In reality, the real winners (alway)are those who have invested money that, regardless of the result en el precio de su Alts entre halving and ATH  they are investing now (anytime) and do not wait 4 years or for the bullish season to happen.

Although if you dedicate yourself to trader any minute of every day is a good time to win and lose, what matters is the ROI in green.

Not really that bad to make out some comparison between the past present and the future but it doesnt mean that it would be precisely happen in the future because if we do consider
the level of adoption and recognition from the past and upto this moment then we can really tell the difference which it would really be an important factor that the thing happened in the past
will happen on the current year and future to come but one things for sure that Halving events does have significant effect on the entire market even though not as general compared to
full adoption talks but it is relevant.

Another halving, another ATH, yes 100% right. If the reward decrease  half so in logically the price should be double too and don't forget that more demand will come in the future so maybe not just double but triple or more, So in the next 4 years later, we will not see the current price of Bitcoin

Halving is a system that makes Bitcoin more scarcity and becomes more valuable

In the past, it looks like the halving and the bump comes hand by hand, but this last halving proves us isn't that way. First, we had the halving and it takes some months for the bump. So, maybe the miner could be involved in the past bump but not in this one. Because we know the big companies like tesla were the ones to send bitcoin price to the moon, and not the miners.

I am glad that people are still optimistic about insane rallies in ETH, from $50 after the last crash to above $3000 is a huge rally but if you are expecting the market to explode further it will be too much of wishful thinking. Musk needs his spaceX shuttle and many billions for the price of to Doge to reach a dollar let along further valuation  .

The market depends upon how long the institutional investors are willing to hold their assets and once they start booking their profit we will see the market stumbling down hard.

It was pretty crazy in 2017/18, hard not to remember how people were literally talking with glazed-eyes about fantasy castles in the cloud. It's the very same look I see now on them videos of people gushing over just how amazing crypto and "DeFi" are -- these are smart people too, educated obviously, and yet duping themselves into ignoring how unsustainable the Utopias they talk about really are.

Like you said, they've already set their eyes on a strange beautiful horizon that only exists as a cyclical mirage they forgot they've seen before.

Don't you think it's too early to call for ATH if you're going to use the same metrics from 2016-2017? BTC was just around $1400 in May 3, 2017 and previous ATH happened seven months later. Market makers today are also different from last time. Institutional investors will sell at some point but I don't think they'll be exiting this early. Maybe not until ETH at $10000 or Doge at $5 hehe.

If that's the thing, we should be expecting more to come by the end of this year. That was the pattern of 2016 halving. Since the next halving happened last year, the effect of the halving compared to 2016, the actual bull run shall be by this end of year. But if this bull run that we have experienced very early, no matter when it is about to happen or if it has happened already, that's inevitable. Bitcoin has to keep up with the effect of the halving and the demand that has rose dramatically.

If you are already going to compare the halvings from 2016 and the last one from 2020, then at least take into account that ATH in 2017 was achieved only at the end of the year - so if we take that as a reference, then we have at least 8 more months until the end of this year - what end of the bull run are you talking about when he hasn't really even started yet?

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Yes, something similar happen with ICOs in the past - people are too naive and have a short-term memory that will cost them dearly again in the end. When I just read how the OP thinks, then I can only conclude that some people have already drawn a thick end, and the game has not yet reached its peak.

Many coins, many choices. Halving is the best season for bitcoin and the cryptocurrency to be noticed. I do not know why but every halving always brings bull run. In the first bitcoin havling, we saw bitcoin strike more than 100 times. In the seconds halving, bitcoin climbed from $1000 to $20000 with numerous of altcoins projects. Now, we are in the 3rd bullrun where Defi, NFTs and bitcoin take all the spotlight and surge the whole world during Covid-19

I believe in the next halving, Bitcoin and cryptocurrency will not just increase their price but also become an important part of the commercial. They will probably reshape the current centralized system and make a world the better place

64k is nowhere near the top of the current cycle, we’re going to double at least before the start of the next bear market. Alts are riding high now but a big % of profits always go back into bitcoin. Most alts are just used as vehicles to increase bitcoin stashes.

Obviously, every halving and cycle won't be mirror images of each other and the way the alt markets react to Bitcoin won't always be exactly the same. Bitcoin holding sway over crypto hasn't changed, and we are already seeing some "solid" alts close to their 2018 peaks but every rally seems to purge out unfeasible coins and give birth to new contenders.

Definitely will see another strong halving event in 3 years amd I think it will see the same for the one after. People do need to be reminded of just how close we are to max supply... Once the dust from the hype and overvaluation of vapourware (this time it will be so-called defi), we'll get back to solid basics.

Obviously it is the institutional investors that are making things a little different from the last halving. The price is still up while altccoins looking bull because huge money is still rushed into bitcoin. And by the time daily traders start pulling the little investment to altcoins with the hope of fast profit, we may see another different movement in the cryptocurrency market.

But in 2017 altcoins increase after Bitcoin dumps the price but now? bitcoin is still increasing and empowering the market so this is different from the last halving.

but anyway halving is near to come again in 2 years time , if this hype holds by Bitcoin till next year? then i can see something coming very high in this market.

Bitcoin halving brought the new bullish period for crypto market. Ethereum is a follower of Bitcoin on the market but it is a leader for altcoins.

• Bitcoin: leader of crypto market.
• Ethereum: leader of altcoin market.

From which, you can expect a blossom of altcoins in coming months. Top altcoins will retest (at least) their 2018 or 2017 ATHs and strong altcoins will make their new all time highs in this year (or next year ?).

It is my speculation, choose one or a few to buy at good entry prices, then hold (for 2017-2018 ATH retest) or new ATHs.

Warnings

• It is only good as investments
• It is not applied for leverage trades, gambling. Your greediness will kill you (by liquidations from exchanges)
• Along the ride of altcoins, you will see many market massacres, with Cascade effects along the journey
• Generally, take care, control your greediness, and good luck

We may not see another major bull run that will take over from the current ATH of $64,863.10. In 2017 when the ATH that many began to notice bitcoin happened, it was a year after and it started ranging, then heavy correction followed till the current halving. Now we are about a year from the last halving, we have also seen an ATH , I thinking we may be in ranging time now as altcoins are beginning to bull. Ethereum is running higher and now selling at $3,160 , other altccoins doing some increase ,it happened that way in 2017 .