Another STO failed! STO won't work anymore.

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Quote from: illnino on February 19, 2020, 02:18:03 PM

It's a pity, but the regulators pressed the cryptocurrency so it is unlikely that we will see another boom Sad

This exchange I have seen before. All are built on the outer shell, essentially inside are all the top coin listed and trading volume is not much. They built STOs to raise funds at a time when the cryptocurrency market was bad. Failure is a matter of course.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

It is impossible to say unequivocally that something works or does not work in just a few episodes.

STO is a fairly young type of fundraising, given that not many such events have been held.
Look at the statistics of ICO projects there are a much larger ratio of failed projects compared to successful ones.

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STO projects are always a disappointments but for how long? I think many STO devs don't know how to handle Security Token based projects because of the difficulty surrounding them e.g security and regulatory governance, if a STO project is not strong enough they die easily

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Quote from: Nekkyush on March 23, 2020, 02:41:55 PM

I don't really know much about STO projects but I think Liqio has a reason for their initial fail announcement. I came across their group on telegram and there's a new announcement that the project is back and will compensate previous investors. Probably, the project isn't failed per se. I hope they come back strong anyway. We don't need more failed projects, they are too many already.

This is one mistake some projects make, why announce project failure when there is still hope of continuation later on. Some actions are just taken so quick, without thinking of the impact. Who will believe in a project after announcing failure, then announcing that they are back again. I'm not against STOs like OP mentioned, some are really successful. NEXO for instance was one, correct me if I'm wrong.

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I don't really know much about STO projects but I think Liqio has a reason for their initial fail announcement. I came across their group on telegram and there's a new announcement that the project is back and will compensate previous investors. Probably, the project isn't failed per se. I hope they come back strong anyway. We don't need more failed projects, they are too many already.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

Has any STO ever been successful? I doubt no. STO projects are full of scams and I dont think any would make an impact in the space. Currently we have a few IEOs which are being successful. I will never key into any STO project. They are all scams.

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Bitbond is an STO made in Germany as the team reported, today I can't even hear of them again. All the STO I followed up are not been heard again, it seems these STO were lying about their business model that made them fail.

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Quote from: viananda2525 on March 02, 2020, 09:50:50 AM

STO scheme coming in uncorrect time while market bearish and investors scared to invest in new project. so its normal when many STO failed and get less investors. they were very traumatized by the losses that have been suffered in previous projects. new model crowdfunding will not guarantee investors get profits, its still doubting.

How about IEO? they also come on the worsening market conditions, but some of them enjoyed initial success right? So it has nothing to do with market being bearish, maybe the project itself is not that attractive causing investors to stay away.

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Quote from: Pecunia non olet on February 27, 2020, 02:47:27 PM

ICO failed in 2017.
STO failed in 2018.
IEO failed in 2019.

What else will come? What else will scam investors? How many scams we need to learn from our mistakes.
I would like to see finally regulated crypto startups that provide real results?

I can not agree with you. Everyone is screaming about failures, but what does it really mean. Indeed, if 5 out of 100 projects, 5 have become really successful and the crypto market has been advanced by several steps, then in my opinion this can be called success and not failure. Look at how fundraising behaves in the field of start-ups, there are all over the place with continuous failures. Nevertheless, the most significant projects find their way to the top.

But what it means to be successful? If successful means to raise enough funds and make some money to the early investors then you are right, some projects become successful once in a while, but since 2017 what projects have actually advanced the market of cryptocurrencies? Do we have a lot of new coins with new characteristics that surpass bitcoin or some of the other established coins in the market? The truth is that most of those new coins are just copies of other projects or at most just change a thing or two while the rest remains the same and as such those coins are still no good at all.

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STO scheme coming in uncorrect time while market bearish and investors scared to invest in new project. so its normal when many STO failed and get less investors. they were very traumatized by the losses that have been suffered in previous projects. new model crowdfunding will not guarantee investors get profits, its still doubting.

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Quote from: tranduong123 on February 18, 2020, 11:03:15 AM

Currently there are too many existing exchanges, last year there were many exchanges that have to stop working, I do not think a new exchange at this time can attract users if there is no great resources. .

Well, I Agree. Right now I only stay with one big exchange.
The problem with the new exchange is about volume trade.

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I think sto has been bound to fail even before their first attempt. And that is one reason I have Ensured to avoid every token that went towards that sto direction.

Even though, faba seem to do the same, it's on lock and liquidity isn't reassuring.

None the less, avoid Crowdfunding if you can't go wif the flow

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Quote from: letyouearn on March 01, 2020, 10:54:55 AM

Someday STOs will win and launch a new hype, but not today, that's true. The idea itself is cool and I hope we will see some successful projects here even this year.

Yes, STO idea is cool, they are regulated, so scam issue will be less in STO. Rather I assume STO would be better than ICO, IEO. Because they will protect the coin's price, so, the investor will get a huge profit instead of losing capital because of utility. Almost 90% of altcoins have no utility use cases! I believe it too that soon or later STO idea will click!

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

As I recall, there was a successful security token offer. If I am not mistaken, Polymath, I have forgotten whether they ever made a sale or not, their platform looks convincing and continues to grow until now. STO is not a bad thing.

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Quote from: letyouearn on March 01, 2020, 10:54:55 AM

Someday STOs will win and launch a new hype, but not today, that's true. The idea itself is cool and I hope we will see some successful projects here even this year.

The STO was planned 1-2 years ago, and so far I have not seen any projects that can implement the STO. So I think it will never come true because it's too difficult for projects to meet the standards. IEO will continue and it will help make quality new projects a success

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Someday STOs will win and launch a new hype, but not today, that's true. The idea itself is cool and I hope we will see some successful projects here even this year.

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ICO,IEO and STO I don't really trust them anymore ever since I got fed up with so many scam projects.
For me it wouldn't matter what you call it, They are all the same New project open up a fundraising for the development of their project,
Then it is only up to them if they would really continue or just leave the project when they already have investors.

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Quote from: Bossfidelity on February 28, 2020, 08:47:38 PM

Investors are reluctant in making investments in cryptocurrency related projects due to the inherent risk it possess and the fact that most projects end up getting abandoned.

I think this statement is less precise

maybe the more appropriate word is "more selective",
because investing in crypto projects or non-crypto projects, has more or less the same risk
Right now Investors think more rationally and conduct more in-depth research before deciding to invest.
And conditions like this will be good for the growth of the crypto industry in the future

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They've been an increase in the failure rate of projects on tokensales irrespective of the mode of raising funds. If you had checked closely, you'll find several projects who conducted their IEO and ICO also failed. I believe it's because of the extent of distrust among cryptocurrency investors. Investors are reluctant in making investments in cryptocurrency related projects due to the inherent risk it possess and the fact that most projects end up getting abandoned.

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Quote from: Pecunia non olet on February 27, 2020, 02:47:27 PM

ICO failed in 2017.
STO failed in 2018.
IEO failed in 2019.

What else will come? What else will scam investors? How many scams we need to learn from our mistakes.
I would like to see finally regulated crypto startups that provide real results?

I may think if STO was getting failed for all of the time. It never gets a good result. All of the projects were running STO were garbage projects. At least we have some projects that run from IEO and ICO in the past that can still be trusted.
Look at the top coins in MCAM and most of them started from ICO. The only we needed is a self regulation to the cryptocurrency. The protection is really needed for investors.

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I also stopped trusting STO a long time ago. I don't see any point in supporting them, let alone participating in the bounty. This has long been almost dead direction.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, -snip-

Why do you state this project is good looking? I don't see anything special from this project. It looks like the same as other new projects. On the contrary, on the bounty thread, the bounty manager didn't enclose the links of important sources of this project such as ANN thread and their social media. It is a bit strange for me!

Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

-snip- I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! -snip-

Not only STO, but IEO and ICO also have the same problems. The lack of interest from investors makes the new projects often failed to get their target on fundraising. While, if they can list their tokens on exchanges, the tokens are only about pump-dump. It makes sense if investors aren't interested in new projects anymore.

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Quote from: Pecunia non olet on February 27, 2020, 02:47:27 PM

ICO failed in 2017.
STO failed in 2018.
IEO failed in 2019.

What else will come? What else will scam investors? How many scams we need to learn from our mistakes.
I would like to see finally regulated crypto startups that provide real results?

I can not agree with you. Everyone is screaming about failures, but what does it really mean. Indeed, if 5 out of 100 projects, 5 have become really successful and the crypto market has been advanced by several steps, then in my opinion this can be called success and not failure. Look at how fundraising behaves in the field of start-ups, there are all over the place with continuous failures. Nevertheless, the most significant projects find their way to the top.

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ICO failed in 2017.
STO failed in 2018.
IEO failed in 2019.

What else will come? What else will scam investors? How many scams we need to learn from our mistakes.
I would like to see finally regulated crypto startups that provide real results?

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Quote from: ATSgrowth on February 19, 2020, 12:57:07 PM

I have participated in their bounty campaign, their plans where promising, they have already working platform but the bad market situation is killing every promising project.
Lets wait, I believe that in a bull market situation will back to the normal and se will again earn huge rewards in the bounty campaigns.

Well if you haven't learnt your lesson by now then I don't know how you ever will. It's not the bad market situation killing every project, it's just people are tired of projects that aren't really bringing any value, and hence has no actual potential other than speculation or pump+dump to get their prices up.

Agreed, some people keep blaming the market circumstances for what it is happening with icos, ieos and stos but last year when the market recovered to the point bitcoin reached 14k most of those new coins kept failing, this cannot be blamed anymore to the the market conditions, most investors have simply learned the truth, most projects simply have no future and investors are not going to keep investing their money in them if they do no see any benefit for themselves.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

Sincerely all these failed STOs isn't giving the STO method of public fundraising a good name at all. When one meets a new STO, the failed ones will come to mind thus discouraging the potential investors. However, I think if STO is worked on and a good project with good ideas and maybe with an already developed products comes to play, through the right promotion and marketing it might perform well, because I still think good promotion matters too. Lastly the team have a big role to play, because everything starts with them, hence the need for an already developed product to start with.

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I can still give an STO project a try if it has good potential enough to fill my taste, I am smart enough to understand how hard it can be for new projects to attract investors so I won't judge STO over IEO and ICO, they are all same thing

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I don't think it's the fundraising that's causing the projects to fail, I think it's generally on the teams and investors, the teams aren't showing enough courage and strength for investors to trust them, they mostly appear just like ICO projects

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30 percent of softcap is way too low.
I don't think they could stand with that kind of amount of money.
The very least is to to fill that softcap at 100 percent for the project to continue.

It looks like a lot of money for us but they will also need to pay employees and people which they hired for just a short time like advisers and a lot more.
It may not even be enough yet.
Shit happens, and this is one example of that.

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Quote from: Furryball on February 25, 2020, 01:32:19 AM

Fund raising is the main issue with STO projects, I guess it's the lack of trust that's affecting ICO since trust issue arise in crypto space in 2018 and mere looking at STO and ICO the different is not much, I hope STO can be successful

I don't think it's about the trust issue, because they are registered by the sec or law, that's why they called Security or Centralized token. But as crypto supporters don't like the Centralized system, maybe this is the main reason STO can't raise money from their sale.

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Quote from: Furryball on February 25, 2020, 01:32:19 AM

Fund raising is the main issue with STO projects, I guess it's the lack of trust that's affecting ICO since trust issue arise in crypto space in 2018 and mere looking at STO and ICO the different is not much, I hope STO can be successful

Right, because between STO and ICO it is almost similar so that trust in STO also does not increase among large investors, so projects that make fundraising through STO are very difficult to reap success in 2018 and early 2019.

Either STO or IEO it doesn't matter, if the team of the project can be able to live up to their standard and deliver something very promising investors will definitely be drawn closer to the project, no one wants to miss out on promising projects

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Quote from: Furryball on February 25, 2020, 01:32:19 AM

Fund raising is the main issue with STO projects, I guess it's the lack of trust that's affecting ICO since trust issue arise in crypto space in 2018 and mere looking at STO and ICO the different is not much, I hope STO can be successful

Right, because between STO and ICO it is almost similar so that trust in STO also does not increase among large investors, so projects that make fundraising through STO are very difficult to reap success in 2018 and early 2019.

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Fund raising is the main issue with STO projects, I guess it's the lack of trust that's affecting ICO since trust issue arise in crypto space in 2018 and mere looking at STO and ICO the different is not much, I hope STO can be successful

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Quote from: Samayuki on February 24, 2020, 08:35:21 AM

The bounty project I'm promoting is STO project that many knew they fails alot but I'm not that bothered because this project is trying to deliver something entirely fresh, it win the best startup project of 2019 and I can't wait to see how far this project will go

Yes, please wait for how far the project will go, because not all STO projects are bad and not all people's evaluations of STO projects are wrong, because most STO projects are unable to compete with others, making it difficult for some STO projects to rise.

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Quote from: BlacksmithCorporation on February 24, 2020, 10:49:41 PM

At present, there are not any clear standards for assessing security token and the issuance of security tokens. Standards are defined by individual organizations, not by government agencies. That is a favorable condition for the bad guys to break the law, or build up fraud projects,

The standard of security token already defined by the legal standard that created by an official institution like SEC, if you are not following it and that means your security was illegal security. The problem is not so many people understand it properly about what criteria for the token that can be called as a security standard.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

Well never heard of this STO before. But I doubt there is any STO that has done well in the market. STOs and ICO have failed to deliver. Gone are the good days of them.

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Yeah, it is really never going to be a standard. People still think that the way offering happens decides the funding it gets or decides on how good it will be. The reality is, doesn't matter if it is ICO or STO or IEO, if a coin is good it is good, if a coin is bad it is bad, how it was offered will not change that.

Sometimes there is hype and some projects gets more money than they deserve, look at leo and look at binance early IEO ones and you see they were hyped and got more than they deserve, on top of that look at previously on 2017 peak times, projects got funded in billions total and not many of them became good. So long story short, how it is offered is not the issue, the projects itself are the real problems we have to somehow try to figure out and solve.

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I never invested yet in these types of projects, but I would say that whatever models of projects comes out in the future, whether it'd be ICO 2.0, IEO 2.0 or even STO 2.0, these wouldn't be the best indicator for good projects anyway. It is seemingly just narrowing the possibility of scams like IEOs wherein the devs need to comply first on the requirements that the exchange needs from them before listing of the coin would be possible. If they can still list their coins, but the project itself is just like one of those projects that gives shitcoins, it is just like the 99% of scam ICOs that people told you.

Well, this might not depend on the type of sales, but the concept and quality of the project itself. honestly don't care if it's ICO, IEO, or STO if the projects they make are really high quality, I think people will be interested. however, I would rather choose IEO in sales, because until now, I rarely hear that STO can be as successful as IEO.

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The bounty project I'm promoting is STO project that many knew they fails alot but I'm not that bothered because this project is trying to deliver something entirely fresh, it win the best startup project of 2019 and I can't wait to see how far this project will go

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 24, 2020, 05:47:50 AM

Well, as long as investors and the general public continue to see the crypto sector as the shortest route to a quick ROI where they invest a little but reap so much within a short period, the crypto industry will continue to suffer to matter what efforts are introduced. ICO, IEO or STO won't really make any difference. This is a sad reality.

Sorry, I have to disagree with you! IEO already found its safe place, all the big exchanges still bringing IEOs and the result is incredible! Recent Wazirx can be a real example! ICO had a golden year, even in 2018, many ICO succeeds, only scammers ruined the ICO sector. But about STO? Golden or bad time, STO is badly failed idea in crypto!

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

Security tokens should be a good alternative when the cryptocurrency market is sluggish. But due to lack of interest and also still many scam projects, making investors or projects that should be good to not succeed in achieving the target. At present it is necessary to be careful in choosing investments

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Well, as long as investors and the general public continue to see the crypto sector as the shortest route to a quick ROI where they invest a little but reap so much within a short period, the crypto industry will continue to suffer to matter what efforts are introduced. ICO, IEO or STO won't really make any difference. This is a sad reality.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

Aside the fact that this is an STO, i consider exchangers not to be looking towards projects like coming up with an entirely new exchange platform. The exchanger industry is currently over populated and that is the least of the challenge, capital raise for liquidity and not been an easry-run for start-up exchangers and this has been the storm rosking their boat. instead of coming up with another exchanger, i feel they should consider coming up with something like and inter-operable exchange and that will give them a lift and make them stand out. MEN(INVESTORS) WILL ONLY COME TO THE DEGREE TO WHICH YOU ARE UNCOMMON AND FINANCE YOU.

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Sad but when I have read their statement I was kinda disappointed about the fail project.

Quote from: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

We would like to thank everyone who participated in the bounty campaign and the investors who believed in our project, and apologize for not being able to complete our project.

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We have already refunded the few investors today and yesterday.

And the thing that they have refunded some of the investor's money means they are sincere with the project. It's just that maybe, they have not reached their goal for making it to be successfully launched. The project made a lot of steps already but oh well, if this project will not gonna work in the future then better to stop it right now like what they have did

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Quote from: rdewilde on February 21, 2020, 07:42:58 AM

It is really not encouraging in the STO method where most if not all project looking for funding through STO always fail. With this failure rate I doubt if any new project will stil take that route because it is clear STO method of funding isn't a good and favourable one. Also, it is clear that nowadays people are more after IEOs than any other method since it proves to be better and more secured also taking into account the exchange it will take place on.

But if anything that only benefits the developers of those coins, I do not know why people keep focusing on the way the developers get the money instead of focusing on what really matters, is that coin a scam? Do the developers have some good reputation in this market? Are they who they say they are? Does the project makes sense? Is the coin innovative? Those are the things that matters to investors and in most of the cases the answers are negative and you must not invest in those coins if that is the case.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

It has come to my attention since 2018 that many STO are just failing over and over and presently i joined relictum pro bounty that is another STO project because of few reasons, I still don't understand why STO keeps failing when they always have something good to offer, maybe investors don't just like them? Or investors look at them as another ICO scam

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

It is really not encouraging in the STO method where most if not all project looking for funding through STO always fail. With this failure rate I doubt if any new project will stil take that route because it is clear STO method of funding isn't a good and favourable one. Also, it is clear that nowadays people are more after IEOs than any other method since it proves to be better and more secured also taking into account the exchange it will take place on.

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The bear market puts a lot of weight on the crowdfunding, people are now more into coins that are performing great in the market, nobody wants to try new coins now the risk is just to high to ignore and investors are losing heavily because of the so many projects in ICO and STO a lot of them are in vacation mode.

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looking at the numbers, STO projects havent really made any success or impact no matter how prospective the project might be. even though its difficult to get investors now due to market conditions and scams. the cycle is changing and very soon we will see a new model of funding.

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We all fail with this description of "good looking" projects whether it's an STO, ico or an IEO. Many of these projects fail due to several factors. I don't know the factors of its failure and haven't checked their thread.
But these days, it's likely to be expected that most of these projects are bound for failure. I'm not saying that all of them are bound of it but let's say that majority of them are. People probably learned a lot from the past and even with an exception of gathering huge amount from their presales, still that doesn't count as success.

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Quote from: moonblocks on February 19, 2020, 11:05:32 PM

STOs are a relatively new method of fund raising and not all of them are legitimate same as IEOs but once further regulation is put into place these will become a very popular way to crowdfund projects with far less scams involved

I don't think STO is a new method, just like ICO is only slightly different in name. They make sales on their website just like ICO, and investors don't trust them because they manipulate too much

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

It's not that STO doeant really effective. There are some STOs that are completely successful and being traded on some exchange. The set up of STO is not bery far from ICO but the security than ICO is much better. That's in my opinion. Its up to you if you loses hope with STOs but some proejects with bounty are really woeth joining though STOs arent that much famous compared to IEO.

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STOs are a relatively new method of fund raising and not all of them are legitimate same as IEOs but once further regulation is put into place these will become a very popular way to crowdfund projects with far less scams involved

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That peak times of ICO (late 2017, early 2018) was all we got, and we deserve this horrible period of new coin offerings because during those times there was millions of dollars basically all stolen "legally" as in you invested into a coin and you got the coin, thats all they were responsible for and they did what they promised, that coin turned out to be totally worthless and didn't improved at all is a whole another topic of course which they can't be hold liable for. As long as people invest millions into worthless shit, I do not see how we could ever recover and actually have good decent new coins in 2020, right now if you ask people "would you trust a coin that will come out in 2020" there will be %99 of the people saying no, that is why it is really hard nowadays not because whats going on now but because what happened in the past.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

From the point of view of scammers and bad developers it makes complete sense to keep creating bad project after bad project if they keep earning millions of dollars with each release of a new project, the real question is why people keep investing their money in such useless projects that have such a high failure rate? And even if we can explain this with greed and unrealistic expectations about the amount of money they can make in the market, at the same time I am still puzzled by their decision to keep investing in something that gives no profits.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 10:29:00 AM

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liquio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Are you sure it was an STO? I tried to find it through google search but couldn't find it. Can you please share the link of their website?

I even tried to search the listing websites but nothing is found. It was probably an ICO but not an STO!

Yes, it was an STO, I wanted to participate in their bounty but somehow I couldn't make it! My friends were optimistic as they did the bounty, but now they all are very sad! However, I am Sorry, mistakenly I typed Liqio, where it is Liqio Exchange. Now, I fixed the thread by updating with the link also. Thank You.

I don't see what you are complaining about, after all you where only looking to join their bounty and make money off them, since nobody is particularly crazy about investing on sto how do you expect them to be successful? It is only when people invest that a project will experience success,
Nowadays, people are running after ieo so nobody gives a damn about sto or ico anymore,
If you want to see success, then you should be a private investor to support the project, not by complaining.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

I guess they only held bounty because I tried to look for the announcement thread but could not find it. Well, I might be wrong, my thinking is that it is another failed scam project. In 2019, there were a lot of scam projects that came in the form of STO. They knew that ICO was no more in vogue, but that another strategy would be to use the name STO to deceive investors. At the initial stage, a lot of investors fell for it, but it was quickly foiled. It's a failed attempt.

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I have participated in their bounty campaign, their plans where promising, they have already working platform but the bad market situation is killing every promising project.
Lets wait, I believe that in a bull market situation will back to the normal and se will again earn huge rewards in the bounty campaigns.

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Quote from: bhabygrim on February 19, 2020, 05:05:35 AM

STO,ICO and IEO are just the same they all have a scam project,
But it doesn't mean that all of them are scam we couldn't tell why there are still some investors to the new projects.
The market has been filled with so many fake project and team build to scam.

STO is completely different from ICO and IEO, if a project meets the STO standard, it is certainly a good project because they have gone through rigorous tests from the government. A lot of new projects today claim that they have met the STO standard but those are lies, for example the project that OP gave the link in his article.

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It is not about STO or ICO or even IEO that these projects fail, the truth is there has been so many coins that came up in the past 3 years and people are done with giving all the power to the coins creators and they want to actually have a bit of different things in coins and they want the power.

Look at all the coins that came out in the last 1 year, you will see that the biggest power in that coin is still the creators and people hate that, they want decentralization and power equality, also go out and look at all the new ones in the past year and you will see that they are not bringing anything new to the table, most of them were created with a start-up mindset that they need to raise funds and can build afterwards but they are not anything new and whatever they say is new is not really needed at all.

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STO was not popular in crypto investors, they prefer join in IEO on reputable exchanges. no one know how STO will run well , its still strange for investors. meanwhile in exchanges we found good projects that have high hype in market. waiting IEO in binance or another best exchanges be investors choice than they loss money in STO. less projects that success in STO, so in my opinion since the beginning this scheme was failed.

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Ico/ieo/sto, most of them fails. At least these guys are returning back money to investors unlike some others. Rip bounty hunters tho.

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Quote from: shoreno on February 19, 2020, 05:07:04 AM

Quote from: trauchot on February 19, 2020, 04:57:25 AM

Yes, I also saw the news from this project about a week ago and of course I was very upset, because I participated in the bounty company from this company and it was unpleasant to read the news that such a good project would close, but there's nothing to be done, need to move on.

ouch man sorry for your loss and for the others aswell . this isnt a good project if they will fail but a good project means that they are already succesful . this wasnt my first time to hear an sto but i think this sto are older than ico and ieo and op could be right that sto mainly fails , that is why its rare to see them while ico and ieo are having a more success rate . many people would thought that these sto's are new and can be a good replacemen to ico and ieo because both are also expriencing some issues lately .

A project with good idea can also be considered as good project but if they fails to reach cap values it will be considered as failed project because project team needs enough funds to develop their project or they will drop and will announce as failed but this is not mean a scam,scammers will never return money to investors they will run away...

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Quote from: trauchot on February 19, 2020, 04:57:25 AM

Yes, I also saw the news from this project about a week ago and of course I was very upset, because I participated in the bounty company from this company and it was unpleasant to read the news that such a good project would close, but there's nothing to be done, need to move on.

ouch man sorry for your loss and for the others aswell . this isnt a good project if they will fail but a good project means that they are already succesful . this wasnt my first time to hear an sto but i think this sto are older than ico and ieo and op could be right that sto mainly fails , that is why its rare to see them while ico and ieo are having a more success rate . many people would thought that these sto's are new and can be a good replacemen to ico and ieo because both are also expriencing some issues lately .

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STO,ICO and IEO are just the same they all have a scam project,
But it doesn't mean that all of them are scam we couldn't tell why there are still some investors to the new projects.
The market has been filled with so many fake project and team build to scam.

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Yes, I also saw the news from this project about a week ago and of course I was very upset, because I participated in the bounty company from this company and it was unpleasant to read the news that such a good project would close, but there's nothing to be done, need to move on.

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Quote from: XCANA on February 18, 2020, 04:25:43 PM

As per individual investment refunds, they will eventually give back every investor his or her money back because of the legal policies involve in STOs. Frankly speaking, I will not advise any good investor to indulge himself into investing in STO, I prefer investment into IEO or even ICO. These sets have proven their worth in regard to fundraising in cryptocurrency. STO is a pure scam that should be avoided at all cost.

Your post is bit contradicting to each other. You said that STO will refund all the investors money due to legal policies involve which is "TRUE". IEO and ICO is more riskier because it's not regulated by the SEC so the investors don't have the option to refund. There's always a risk in every investment types and it's to the company on how they will roll there marketing because that is the main key for a successful
crowdfunding. There is a lot of shit/garbage project that collected more than 10M$ by just focusing on marketing. And now the value of the token is in the bottomless pit. The only problem about STO right was there is no regulated exchange that can cater them. That's why no investor will risk there money for a token that has no clear future. They are still on Gray area of crypto regulation but they not SCAM. Wink

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So far, there have been very few successful STOs, so until now I have avoided STO like avoiding ICO. I prefer the IEO project because it has been confirmed that it will be traded in a market, and that has made me think that the product must be finished before that. however, I have seen another STO that failed, and that made me think of moving away from it.

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When projects offer an STO, we forget to check if really they fulfilled all legal bonds to offer such. Another problem with security token is most lack liquidity which leads to their failure. If a security token has liquidity upon which its value is measured and paid out it won't fail. Most projects come into cryptocurrency space without having an idea how best to implement blockchain projects with effective marketing

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

I also have never seen a successful STO, they all fail on average. Investors prefer to invest in IEO because they are more secure in security and profits

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 10:14:52 AM

Yes, I mistyped, but that is not Liquid, it's Liqio exchange. You can see their bounty campaign thread from this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

To be honest, I have seen my proper STO project, like Mobu, Stellero, Bitbond, Hyghtech and so on, and no one could make a success! So, I am totally off from STO projects.

I see, Liqio Exchange...

To be honest, I doubt it was a regulated STO. If it's not regulated than it is just like a common ICO/IEO.

What if, in reality, only a small percentage of ICO/IEO that were able to reach softcap in 2017, and the rest were fake? They could say that they successfully reach hardcap even if in reality no one buy the token. This kind of thing need to be properly audited.

IMO it would be better if hunters search for community coins instead of these fund raising schemes.

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Perhaps the STO was launched on a mid-tier exchange that's why it didn't reached it's soft cap?

Or maybe the hype has died down already? It's like almost a year or close to a year that STO suddenly exploded in the ecosystem and investors find out that it doesn't have any difference at all to the scam ICO that's why they don't want to pour their money anymore to this hype offerings.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

I am in total agreement with you, am yet to see any STO make it as well, as the ones I have seen all failed during fundraising which makes me wonder if there is something they aren't doing well or STOs are not worth it at all, but that doesn't mean that all projects doing STO do not have good ideas. STO is known to issue security tokens which comes with various legalities, could that be the reason? Or maybe people or investors don't like STO at all. Nevertheless, it's wise to be with the winning side, why going for STO again when one can take chances with IEOs on top exchanges like Binance etc.

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Quote from: killerfrost on February 18, 2020, 11:29:01 AM

Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

It's funny when I see them notice that the STO has failed. Obviously they still do not understand the STO and how it can work, since 2018 until now I have not seen any projects implementing STO because it requires too many issues legal, for me this is a scam project and now it has failed. Hopefully every investor will get their money

As per individual investment refunds, they will eventually give back every investor his or her money back because of the legal policies involve in STOs. Frankly speaking, I will not advise any good investor to indulge himself into investing in STO, I prefer investment into IEO or even ICO. These sets have proven their worth in regard to fundraising in cryptocurrency. STO is a pure scam that should be avoided at all cost.

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Does not guarantee a project will be successful when raising funds. It all depends on the incoming investors, so the STO said is a safe investment. But it fails, if the project is indeed not good for us to support. Like that now, IEO is also experiencing the same thing.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

It was difficult to say that STO is a very reasonable way of selling. But I think it is not only bounty, but it can hurt those who invest in this market to buy tokens. At least there were a lot of example that luck does not go away during bounty. However, investors start by putting money in this market. And somehow they're losing money. This is a big question mark in front of the people who will put money into this market.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

It looks like you are getting aware about that right now but since STO has already announced and published by some old developers and STO has become a garbage mechanism. STO is really different with ICO and IEO that puts exchange site as the priority. even all of STOs in the past already become failed project.
We never join in any STO bounty.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

It's funny when I see them notice that the STO has failed. Obviously they still do not understand the STO and how it can work, since 2018 until now I have not seen any projects implementing STO because it requires too many issues legal, for me this is a scam project and now it has failed. Hopefully every investor will get their money

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Omg! Liqio failed! I had a big hope on this project, that exchange interface looked good, the team was active and there had volumes too! It's mean that volume was fake and lie! Mate, I will follow you to not doing the STO bounty anymore. Everyone should boycott all the STO, all of our hard work wasted!

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There are many reasons why a project fails one most obvious is the marketing strategy if they did not spend any amount of money from their own pocket and rely only on bitcointalk bounty then the possibility of failing is really high a unique and trusted marketing campaigns must be launched along with press.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

That was the sad truth on most of STO base projects are not successful, while others manage to reach the soft cap but they put the project on standby like CindX , I think the mean reason why most of the investors are not choosing STO to invest with because it was subjected to all regulatory screw by the government so its lot of a stuff to be implemented, but I'm not sure it was just a wild guess. Another failed bounty hunting journey but at least the team was honest to say it, unlike other projects that it just vanishes away.

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Frankly speaking i don't encourage anybody to invest into any Security Token Offering because of some few reasons. Firstly, is because of the rules and regulations that they might need to comply in order to operate. By registering its company and adhering to state laws and that of the SECs. If such a project fails you maybe lucky with the help of the Security and Exchange Commission your funds can be returned but might have lost its value as it's a cryptocurrency.

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Currently there are too many existing exchanges, last year there were many exchanges that have to stop working, I do not think a new exchange at this time can attract users if there is no great resources. .

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 10:14:52 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on February 18, 2020, 09:45:34 AM

Where's the link? I couldn't find anything about Liquio Exchange.. maybe you mistyped "Liquid?"
A proper STO should come with legal prospectus and stuff since securities are regulated.

I think you mean IEO/ICO?

Yes, I mistyped, but that is not Liquid, it's Liqio exchange. You can see their bounty campaign thread from this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

To be honest, I have seen my proper STO project, like Mobu, Stellero, Bitbond, Hyghtech and so on, and no one could make a success! So, I am totally off from STO projects.

Fundraising at STO has never been successful, so many projects have failed, even I see that tempting some STO essays with huge rewards, even though it was all nonsense and ended in failure.
Still we have to follow the current trend, so choose a good IEO in some popular exchanges that will be better, even though good marketing is good if sales in STO will never be successful.

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Quote from: Rodeo02 on February 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM

IF there is not even 1 project been success in STO you should forget investing in it. I dont know any reasons why they need to change the name if there is nothing good to offer and there's no change they can do to make a successful project. Maybe they think having a new or unique name of crowdfunding will get investors attention to invest.

Yes, I made an oath that I won't spend my time and money on STO projects anymore, because it's just a waste, nothing else. Maybe you are right, for example, MOBU was an ICO project, they did not raise the softcap! Later they become an STO and started the sale but honestly after months, they raised only 17K USD! Later they realized crypto investors are not interested in them. So, changing the name to ICO to STO to IMO won't work! Specifically, I think STO is the worst sale system in crypto history!

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They even managed to raise 30% of the softcap. I think this is a general thing that happens to the most project. Many of them do not get the required amount to start the project and it is not limited to the STO project alone. This could have been a good project if they were able to raise the money required and to me, I think the dev team has done well because I read that they returned back the money of the investors after they did not raise the required amount. If it were to be some project, they would run away with the money

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Quote from: avikz on February 18, 2020, 10:08:13 AM

Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liquio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Are you sure it was an STO? I tried to find it through google search but couldn't find it. Can you please share the link of their website?

I even tried to search the listing websites but nothing is found. It was probably an ICO but not an STO!

Yes, it was an STO, I wanted to participate in their bounty but somehow I couldn't make it! My friends were optimistic as they did the bounty, but now they all are very sad! However, I am Sorry, mistakenly I typed Liqio, where it is Liqio Exchange. Now, I fixed the thread by updating with the link also. Thank You.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 10:14:52 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on February 18, 2020, 09:45:34 AM

Where's the link? I couldn't find anything about Liquio Exchange.. maybe you mistyped "Liquid?"
A proper STO should come with legal prospectus and stuff since securities are regulated.

I think you mean IEO/ICO?

Yes, I mistyped, but that is not Liquid, it's Liqio exchange. You can see their bounty campaign thread from this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

To be honest, I have seen my proper STO project, like Mobu, Stellero, Bitbond, Hyghtech and so on, and no one could make a success! So, I am totally off from STO projects.

IF there is not even 1 project been success in STO you should forget investing in it. I dont know any reasons why they need to change the name if there is nothing good to offer and there's no change they can do to make a successful project. Maybe they think having a new or unique name of crowdfunding will get investors attention to invest.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 18, 2020, 09:45:34 AM

Where's the link? I couldn't find anything about Liquio Exchange.. maybe you mistyped "Liquid?"
A proper STO should come with legal prospectus and stuff since securities are regulated.

I think you mean IEO/ICO?

Yes, I mistyped, but that is not Liquid, it's Liqio exchange. You can see their bounty campaign thread from this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

To be honest, I have seen my proper STO project, like Mobu, Stellero, Bitbond, Hyghtech and so on, and no one could make a success! So, I am totally off from STO projects.

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Quote from: Tduty on February 18, 2020, 09:23:19 AM

Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liquio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Are you sure it was an STO? I tried to find it through google search but couldn't find it. Can you please share the link of their website?

I even tried to search the listing websites but nothing is found. It was probably an ICO but not an STO!

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mechanism and way of working, I think it's correct. whether it's STO or ICO, I think they've tried their best. but what makes this a failure is due to market conditions that have not yet risen, and that causes the company not to get a big profit so that fraud occurs. although STO is a project that complies with financial laws such as the SEC, such fraud cannot be avoided. for now I also suggest to be more careful in investing.

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Where's the link? I couldn't find anything about Liquio Exchange.. maybe you mistyped "Liquid?"
A proper STO should come with legal prospectus and stuff since securities are regulated.

I think you mean IEO/ICO?

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Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, and that STO project name is Liqio Exchange! I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! So why they keep coming I don't have any idea about it. I told all my friends that don't join in any STO bounty, just ignore them.

Liqio STO failed, source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-liqio-exchange-sto-fail-90000-5210813

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