Topic: Another Two Category Of Gamblers That We Are Not Aware Of (Read 480 times)

I don't know for sure what kind of gambler I am from between the two categories you mentioned, what is certain and what I experienced is that I am just a normal gambler who can stop at any time and also play still within the budget that has been set, even though I have exceeded the budget but it is still within my means and the loss did not affect my finances at all, and if we look at the two categories, it can be seen that they are problem gamblers, problems with self-control and so on, so it can be said that both of them fall into the addict category.

The first time I read this, I didn't know there were two types of gamblers like this.
I only know the gambling addicts or the occasional gamblers. I mean, we could already define it by just the words. But when "action" and "escape" are used it seems to get twisted.

Anyway, I might be part of those "action gamblers". Started when I was a teen playing cards with friends and relatives only. Afterward, I was invited to a poker club and then I kept on playing there weekly because I really love the game. When the pandemic hit I stopped too, staying safe is my priority. Someone introduced me to online poker but I don't appreciate it, something is missing. Finally, now I am a sports bettor. It seems like it was defined perfectly in the "action" gamblers but not the last part of it.
I play sports betting daily, but I do it only in the evening setting my bets, then I will watch the games in the mornings and that's it. I don't try to chase my losses through other sports. I stick with only what I know and the games are not that many for a day so there's definitely a rest.

I think it's very important to identify our gambling behaviors, it will help to reflect on our habits and to recognize if there is a need to seek professional support to address any issues may have.

I notice that many users here are the same as you who also falls on both types but I think that's because both types have some similarities in which they define irresponsible gambling, so you are correct that you don't belong to any of them because you are only playing for fun. That is not the same as having fun in video games where we can play for hours.

Gambling addiction can only trigger if one is aiming to win a good amount of money. IMO, it would be better if we can just consider the two types of gamblers here as one and then add another one which is for the gamblers like you and me who are not compulsive. That would make more sense.

Actually, you'd fall under one category even if you are not gambling daily simply 'coz characteristics under those categories speaks in general. But I don't get the point of determining or placing oneself on what type of a gambler you are. You could be active (action) and addicted to gambling or escape and still be addicted into it. Emotions and habits are there simply because we are humans and something important is on the line which is money. We are also having expectations of our own with the outcome which also contribute with how we will act or feel in every bet. What should matter, no matter what category there is, is to be able to handle the risk in every bet you will make. Keep in mind how gambling works; we are all prone of losing and luck will never be in our control. There will always be a 50:50 ratio of either winning or losing.

I'm pretty sure that I'm none of the two mentioned gambler types because I don't gamble regularly and these characteristics can only be found in gamblers who gamble regularly with no breaks and have been doing it for quite some time already.

I started gambling a few years back, although I was compulsive with my gambling habits at the initial stage, I managed to control myself and my emotions later on and reduced my gambling time and budget which made a great difference in my financial life because I was using a lot of money on gambling.

If I talk about the present time, I gamble sometimes but it's not done regularly, and I don't think I have any of the characteristics mentioned in both categories.

For me I don't fall into any of those categories. Gambling is a kind of game that doesn't need a long time or too much dedication, otherwise you turn to a chronic gambler which makes you take unnecessary risk or trying to prove a meaningless point of becoming a gambling hybrid or guru.

When I was younger I don't gamble, and even if I was to gamble, my parents will even kill me for that. The reason why most children became a gambling addict today, is lack of parental home training and care. Most parents thinks that giving birth to children is a guarantee to success. without knowing that proper upbringing will make your children become reasonable. Most parents don't know where their children go to after school. Some immediately they are off from school, the next thing is to go to a gambling hall. Always looking at adult what they do. Little by little they gradually become addict and as time goes on their parents fund becomes unsafe due to gambling.

So it's not good for children to start gambling at an early age, because it will definitely affect their future. There is a friend of mine that is a chronic gambler, and it started at an early age. Because his father was also a chronic gambler. So nobody to advise each other because the father doesn't know if what he is doing is good or bad. Now his children always think gambling is the only hope just like their father and now, no matter the amount that comes to them, they can't utilise it because of gambling. So let be careful the way we exposed our children to early gambling. Because parents also has a big role to play in children's life in gambling.

I guess I'm an action gambler. I did not gamble from an early age or as a teenager. I only see myself in the category of friendly, sociable, gregarious and generous people. But I've also noticed I've been in the category of "Evolve through four stages: Win-Loss-Desperation-Desperation (although the winning stages are very different for runaway gamblers.)."

But whatever it is, so far, I can still control myself when gambling. I have changed the goal of gambling just to enjoy it. I can also regulate my gambling activities so that I am not too passionate about gambling.

But I think many gamblers fall into those two categories because gamblers experience things in those two categories. They just don't know that there are two types of gamblers like the one you shared.

Maybe I am an action gambler and also an escape gambler because I have known gambling for a long time but still use it continuously but I have not reached the stage of critical gambling addiction because I gamble responsibly, and I also sometimes become a gambling escapee because when I lose I immediately give up and stop for a while, and start my gambling action when I forget about my losses. However, I don't really care about my gambling in the category you mean because the most important thing for me is that not becoming addicted is enough.

Handling gambling as categorized above does make someone seem to have a bad attitude towards gambling because they become manipulative and compulsive and have the ambition to win at gambling. In fact, I prefer to gamble for fun, but when I lose money, sometimes I also feel sad even though I use it money I can afford to lose.

I see a very big mix up in this description of yours as it seem to be conflicting it self as I try to understand it because I seem not to be able to understand how some one will be able to possess all the qualities you did mentioned above and yet such person is still have low self esteem, I mean this doesn't match up at all and it's almost not making Sense to me.

Gambling at early age could over time build your experience and make you a much more better gambler because some how history is bound to repeat it's self so in that case you may have to just use your experience and when you see some events about reoccurring you take advantage of it and you could get your next big hit from such game. These gamblers are usually skilled in some cases no doubts and that's because they have been doing it over the years and are now consider very experienced enough to Play much better than regular newbies.

No, it's not bro, it's a clinical study I have dropped the link you may have missed reading the article, the doctors are the ones who came out with these terms not ordinary citizens, I also thought that there are only two types of gamblers responsible and irresponsible gamblers. but there are other types too

But that's how physicians do the things they try to articulate, or comprehend the behavior of gamblers, it may not look easy for us laymen.
They study the behavior, so they can trace symptoms and set up a rehabilitation method for gamblers, gambling behavior is quite complicated, they first classified it so they can come out with treatments on how to cure these symptoms.

Like most people fall into the second category, namely considering gambling as a place of escape. and quite a few people feel stressed because of their duties and work, they choose gambling as a place to relieve stress and find relaxation and fun by gambling. However, there are those who are more dangerous, namely people who turn to gambling because they are experiencing financial problems, where they hope that by gambling they can overcome their financial problems and by betting they can get profits many times over. And that is a stupid assumption, which can harm themselves, which in the end their financial condition gets worse as a result of a number of losses they experience while gambling, while they fall into the valley of the abyss that exists in gambling, namely the problem of gambling addiction which makes them more and more losses and losses.

Each group has parts of me in it. I started by betting on simple games because I loved both skill and luck. Making a quick choice gives you more of an energy rush than winning. Additionally, it's provided me a small break from my daily routine. This exact mix between action and escape shapes gambling.

Encourage safe and fun gaming. The important thing is to know when gaming stops being fun. Being aware of our Action and Escape gambler habits helps us stay balanced. To keep games fun and interesting, we need to understand why we do the things we do.

I am happy to see myself in the first category although I don't know about IQ though I have a really high self esteem and I surely have not finished the 4 phases despite having gambled since more than 23 years ago.Of course those who lie and manipulate to take profit from other persons by such means will have low self esteem and with the passing of time these type of persons are the one who end very badly in the sad stories we have seen in large quantity here.

You don't need to categorise yourself; there are definite categories of gamblers, as people can have mixed or different characteristics. In short, even I, as an action gambler, can also be an escape gambler, but based on the OP's statement, it is not clear what kind of characteristics the two types of gamblers have, as some characteristics are contradictory and don't match the category. That's why I'd say it's more like a gambler can be anywhere; he can manifest different characteristics depending on his current mood or the kind of environment he is residing in. But if I were to categorise myself, I would be an aggressive gambler who likes thrills and, at the same time, has fun with those thrills. I could also be a coward gambler sometimes who can't take a risk. So it doesn't matter what type or what category you are in as a gambler, as long as you know your limits and you know yourself.

It’s not about judging but rather this kind of traits is discovered due to the similarities within the gamblers. It’s just a classification and that doesn’t mean that it runs to your blood already. It’s based on how you behave which means you can change your classification based on your attitude.

I believe the list provided by the OP is not complete since there’s a lot of different types of gamblers that doesn’t mention on that 2 category. I myself don’t find any suitable category. the option since I’m just an average gambler but not low self esteem.there should be a choices in the middle.

Ordinarily, an action gambler who is characterized as being domineering and controlling and having large egos is not supposed to fall in the category of having low self-esteem but I think this is so because of the nature of the activity that is gambling. This even tells us why both action and escape gamblers have low self-esteem regardless of the fact that an action gambler posses confidence.

Does this mean gambling activity affects our self-esteem or leaves us with low self-esteem? From my experience, yes it does because constant loss in gambling can diminish the sense of self-worth. Some gamblers feel guilty after gambling due to the money and time they have spent on gambling and then neglecting their responsibilities.

However, I was hoping to see the different ways people behave when they win or lose because that in my opinion would have formed a better category of gamblers rather than telling us the different characteristics of an individual. Some people have these characteristics but are not into gambling so it is not peculiar to gamblers alone. Also, I don't have to fall under the category of escape gambler by the characteristics you have given before becoming an addicted gambler because all addicts go through those stages so that is not peculiar to escape gamblers as you have implied.

Action gambler sounds pretty weird. I mean it said it itself, having those characteristics then having low self-esteem? Or maybe only in terms of gambling? Then I guess it slightly makes more sense since some people are just like that. Rather curious why it's called "Action" gambler though. The most notable characteristic is their having opposite attitudes when it comes to gambling and regular life so it might've been better to describe it that way.

As for Escape gamblers, they're probably the ones who destroy their own families and friends relationship-wise since they probably try to get money off of them by either guilt-tripping or as the characteristics said, manipulating them by lying.

Well most people probably fall into well, normal gamblers. These types, whatever or whoever describes them in the first place, probably only describes the extreme cases.

I think these categories are complicated and too complex for someone to fall into either one of the category. I mean, for an action gambler, it was stated that one of its characteristic is confident, but in the next sentence it became self contradictory as it states that despite all those positive character, they usually have low self-esteem? I'm sorry but I didn't get it.

I actually knew several people who were confident on almost every bet they make, especially in a match up game like poker, pool, and other pvp gambling games, but they all doesn't have a low self-steem. In fact they are very competitive who even applaud a winning opponent.

I really don't know if we can be just categorized on those 2 characteristics. And for sure majority here will not agree on the description itself, what? we have low self-esteem, and manipulative? What the hell is that description? So I will say that it's not that right to categorized all, some of us just play to have some fun. Maybe others have big capital to begin with and that is fined. But I don't think they gamble because they are manipulative or something, they play to enjoy and be entertained and of course us average joe gamblers wanted to win, simply as that. No need to go to that line to describe who we are, gamblers will be gamblers and that is enough for us. We don't have self-esteem and that is the worst that I heard about gamblers to be honest.

Same mate! I don't know in which category should I fall because I have some characteristics from both category and it seems like many of us are having the same thoughts?  But I'm much more into Action gambler and I know to myself that I need to become a responsible gambler and I need to stick on what I've planned and started. I won't lie to say that I only gamble to enjoy and have fun, of course I somehow expect to win so that I can have money that I can use to treat myself or my family, but I don't rely on gambling as the only source of income because I have a stable job.

I don't have a complete category above but maybe it's a little closer to action gamblers, every gambler does have a unique character from their gambling but this is obtained usually from their own gambling experience, so their character is formed in gambling, how they play gambling at gambling or even with their friends. I actually don't think too much about how my character gambles, but the most important thing is that every time I gamble, limit my budget well so that I don't play beyond my limits and betting small as long as it's profitable doesn't matter.

It's almost close to the character of an action gambler, but whatever it is, I'm sure not everyone has full similarities with the character written in this thread because everyone has their own history in gambling and of course there are many different experiences with gambling itself, don't think that every gambler can have the same character because the character of each gambler is always built from the level of experience during gambling and of course each person is also different in their views on gambling.  

It seems like I fall into these two types of gamblers, but somehow, I don't feel sure about this. But after all, I only gamble for fun and am not one or even both types of gamblers. Apart from that, I am also still learning to control myself, and I can stop myself from gambling too often.

And those two types of gamblers are not the type I feel like I am today. I can gamble several times a week, but I can also refrain from gambling for several weeks or even not gamble for a month or more. So I feel like I'm not part of either type of gambler.

That's why I think that it contradicts to the description on what OP has given about the action gamblers. They shouldn't be low self-esteem gamblers as they are active and energetic. And whenever there are these types that differentiate the classics of gamblers does have their own reference. But I think that they've just made it for someone to have something to do out of boredom. But anyway, I respect all of these classifications if that's too important to them because still, I don't think that there's a need for you to classify yourself.

It's just like the old times when we talk about it for being an active gambler or a passive gambler. Someone who does it for fun and does it for the money. So, all of those stuff and descriptions that we all know, there can be changes over time based on the trend in the gambling industry and based on the terms that we've been using. But as I have said, there's not really any importance whether to get classified as one or not.

It's the first time I am hearing about these two types of gamblers and I think that I don't fall into any category of two. My IQ is definitely too low for being an action gambler and I don't like to be loud or even shout about my bets. Even when I have a big bet on a game that I watch live in a public place, then I don't like to be vocal about my bets. With my friends I am happy to share my bets and if I win I am also happy to buy some beers, but I don't like to engage the whole room in my betting. So instead of the action gambler I am rather the quiet one that looks from behind and enjoys the show. As for the escape gambler, I don't like lying and would never do it to my friends and family. I can understand that people are uncomfortable to talk about gambling when they are losing, but then it's better to say nothing instead of lying. Also I don't like to manipulate people or worse case myself, there is no benefit to it.

Some characteristics of low self-esteem are:


I do not think if someone do not have some of these characteristics, that the person will be energetic. You are right.

What OP posted are just something not to consider.

Based on that description, action gamblers are energetic and yet they have low self-esteem? I think that contradicts the entire description of it when they're action gamblers, energetic and yet they have this problem of having low self-esteem. Maybe the majority belongs to this category because of how many are energetic in terms of gambling but if it's with the other things, we don't usually give our thoughts and attention on it. The attention that we're giving to gambling is we are aware of it but we just can't stop ourselves when we're already there.

And as for the escape gamblers, looks like they are villain of this topic and they are liars and manipulative. Anyway, a type 1 category or the action gamblers can also be manipulative based on the descriptions that they have and said that they've got that IQ and confidence. Why I think that it can just be the same category and there's really no need to categorize them because at the end of it, what matters is that they're both gamblers and still can go to the point of being addicted.

I think they should be more categories available, but it's safe to say that the first option, action gambler, has a higher number of gamblers in that category than the second option, which I don't belong to, I'd say the first option, but not completely me, because I don't participate in illegal gambling. Started gambling at a young stage and played card games too with friends. Although never won big in those kinds of game. The escape gamblers still have lots of gamblers in that category, but not all has escaped being compulsive in gambling. The need to be a responsible gambler, may not be found in both categories. Because sometimes the action gambler would find himself, if care is not taken, compulsive in the end. Hence, the need to be a better gambler is to make sure one is not gambler from a young age, that's as an underage. It takes some strong self-control for such a person to escape compulsive gambling.

This seems more like a superstition other than anything else...
Just like Koreans think your life is judged by your blood type, or how many indian people still kinda somehow follow the caste system...
Based on how someone gambles they come up with character traits? I wish life was that simple so we could judge people with things like zodiac signs or character stats.

I am a private gambler who feels ashamed and guilty if caught while gambling because in my locality, people off the gambling industry tends to see gamblers as frustrated and lost of vision individuals.
So for that I stays humble and unpanicks while gambling so that I don't get tagged with the irresponsible names and I maintains to an utmost best not to bring gambling reputations to my family and it is quite unfortunate that I have the emotional guilts sighting some irresponsible Indulgences in the gambling lives which I honestly don't want any of my relatives to indulge on.

This is the best I could explain about my gambling characters so @ OP, I don't know if I still belongs to any of your above mentioned gambling categories.

From your explanation of the two categories of gamblers, it reminds me of what I was also talking about just this week about the reaction of gamblers to addiction. There are some gamblers that can easily change their attitude towards gambling if they become addicted, while there are also some that cannot change their attitude, no matter how hard someone tries to help them avoid gambling addiction.

In essence, there are some gamblers who don't focus so long on their losses, while for another gambler, it can take him or her up to one or two days before they can forget the pain that the losses they experienced from gambling caused them. I know that there are usually different kinds of gamblers as long as there are different kinds of individuals in the world.

In my case, I don't know what my category is, because I only bet with money that I can afford to lose, but I also always leave long gaps of time between my bets. for example, when I start betting for 3 weeks, then I stop betting for a month, to prevent me from becoming dependent on gambling. I always exercise my self control. As I have read many stories of people who always told themselves that they only played for fun, but they spent many hours playing and at the end of a few months they became addicted and lost everything, lost money, lost jobs, lost material goods like house, car, lost wife and children, lost family

So I look at these very sad stories as historical knowledge that I shouldn't copy, and that I shouldn't make the same mistake. That's why I play with little money, I don't play constantly. I always take a vacation from games, I just follow the big leagues. Most people who gamble constantly keep telling themselves that they are not addicted to gambling, they are lying to themselves. The truth in my opinion is that this category thing doesn't matter, at the end of the day it comes down to who can play constantly and who plays sometimes. people who play with little money but constantly and can't stop playing and are fooling themselves that they have everything under control

They are no different from those people who constantly play with a lot of money and cannot stop playing, in both cases people are not well psychologically. That's why I always say that everyone should constantly test themselves: spend some time without playing. If they can do that then they are fine, but if they can't do that then they need to seek urgent treatment. Gambling is a very good thing to have fun with, but we need to be in moderation like everything we do in our lives. even food has to be consumed in moderation

Probably the action gambler because I don't lie often. If we would check the definition, the two categories are alike with self-esteem and confidence with gambling. Descriptions are both generalized which won't effectively include all gamblers. And I think anyone could fall on either category depending on their mood. There will be times a gambler would be energetic especially during profitable periods but will be having low self esteem in times of loss. Nothing's consistent I guess even with gambler's attitude not only with gambling outcome. Knowing these, won't be that much of a help  think other than learning prior informations. What will matter the most is how we would actualize our gambling habits. It depends also with the circumstances a gambler falls into.

Gamblers can be categorized in different forms but I find OP's types more complicated. Many bettors have one or two traits that are in both categories making this classification difficult to understand. I thought an escape gambler sees gambling as a means of escaping from physical or emotional problems faced in real life. They use gambling to divert their attention from some of life's problems. There have been issues when someone turns to gambling after losing a loved one.  

I might even decide to classify gamblers into passive, active, and addicted gamblers. Passive gamblers gamble occasionally, active gamblers are steady gamblers, while addicted bettors don't have control over their gambling activities.

I see both categories are almost the same, it's hard to understand where I am, sometimes I'm afraid but sometimes I'm reckless, maybe I'm in the category of escape gambler, but in my opinion it will be difficult to stop gambling because I'm in an environment where almost everyone gambles, even children. small, I hope the bad effects are not so detrimental to me, I know gamblers will always end badly

I didn't find any significant differences between both categories of gamblers, as both of them are addicted and display characteristics of being manipulative, low self-esteem individuals who have been losing money along their lives through gambling practice in a disfunctional way. Would the action gambler be a more energetic, active individual, while the escape gambler would be the passive, depressive one?

They are very similar, anyway, and I think the most important aspect when labelling them is to identify the trigger, the cause which drove them into addiction. The key differences I'm interested in investigating further is if such gamblers are driven by pleasure seeking, or if they are just escaping through gambling from an aversive reality they are facing, or from an aversive opinion about themselves, which would perfectly explain the low-esteem factor displayed as well.

I can relate somehow with those that feels that they are too experience in the art and would go to convince others to play it gamble a certain way that's in line with their view on the particular kind of gambling.

They are mostly those ones you see in a sports betting shops that feels that they are good advisers that can tell you they right game to bet even when they can't advice themselves and win a game in the gambling.

I consider personality and character to be too nuanced for it to be so easily generalized. There is no one (or two boxes in this case) that fits gamblers, when you throw it other personality traits like poor self esteem, manipulation and IQ, it is just opening up pandora's box.

- Jay -

It seems that we've got always the differentiation of gamblers and how we act to our activities. I don't see myself to any of the two but some of them are like my qualities like having low self steem.

Honestly, all of these types have their own respective meanings and characteristics. If someone is going on and fits himself to any of those, you have to think again about yourself and have to reflect on how you gamble and why you fit to any of those.

Your situation is similar to people with mental disorders. Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between a narcissist, a sociopath and a psychopath because they have many similar, yet different features.
In general, the way you classify yourself is you don't try to fill all the boxes, just count them up and see if you're more of one or the other type of personality.
Anyway, whatever you happen to be, both these cases are extreme and if you possess the features displayed by both, you should seek professional help.

Between those two categories, i'd probably fall under the action gambler even though I have a bit of similarity with the escape gambler (unemotional) since i'm mostly making small sports bets, but some of the parts about the said category don't apply to me, like wanting to beat the casino. You'll eventually realize that part is impossible, and believing you can do it would only cause unnecessary losses.

I reason action gambling to be the gamblers who thrive on the adrenaline rush that gambling gives to them. The really enjoy the thrill.

I reason escape gamblers to be the gamblers who started gambling as a way to escape the realities (hard conditions) they faced or are facing. They see gambling as something comforting that they can derive escape and relaxation from. Because gambling to escape gamblers is being influenced by the difficult situation the gambler is facing which they need escape from, so if their situation improves, they can actually stay away from gambling for a while, or for as long  as their situation remains good, hence the reason why their compulsive gambling can be arrested more easily.

        -   I don't seem to be in those categories, based on my reading of the topic. Because I only gamble for fun, if I'm lucky and see that I can bring home a winning, I'll stop even if my gambling budget hasn't been used up yet.

That's what I do every time I think of gambling in crypto gambling, as long as in a month I only gamble 3 to 4 times in the online casino here in the crypto gambling business.

LOL who would want to classify himself as Escape Gambler?
All the negative traits are already in this character who sounds like a loser and then the Action Gambler also has the characteristic of an egomaniac who would do anything just to grab the money of the Escape Gambler in the casino.

Can I just be an Online gambler who just randomly picks a day to gamble whenever the mood is right?

TThese two categories picture the bad sides of gamblers I always thought that there are two categories of gamblers, the responsible and irresponsible categories, reading these two new categories of gamblers I have a little both of those characteristics, but I'm not fully aware of it I always think that I'm a good gambler although I sometimes feel like manipulative, I guess gambling brings out our bad side that we are not aware of are there.

You were explaining escape gamblers towards getting addicted after they have won, lost, lost more, desperate and hopeless. I see it more as a way of getting into addiction.

I see myself more as an action gambler if you meant dominant legal and illegal sport betting as the gamblers visiting the sites because I prefer to gamble online and privately and I have just little amount of money to gamble. I prefer just legal gambling sites because my country allows gambling for 18+ people.

I was thinking the escape category of gamblers has something to do with those fearful gamblers that will not maximize profits because they are scared staying longer  Those who want to cut part of the show at a time and exit like those waiting for cashout and only satisfied with cashing out without getting the full potential. 

Is it possible to not have a characteristic that’s not specific to just one category? I mean something in between?

Because for me, there are certain habits that I exhibit that does not fall entirely into one category - seems like mid-way between action gambler and Escape gambler so I’d like to know if there’s any other person who feel the same way as I do.

I have seen a lot of members posting different kinds and types of gamblers but I doubt if they already know these two types of gamblers, I have not seen anyone posting these two types of gamblers yet.



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Both types of gamblers are not that good in their perspective but it's worth taking note of these kinds of gamblers so we can analyze ourselves if we are behaving any one of these two types of gamblers.

How about you what kind of gamblers are you within these two types of gamblers, you should have a pick if you've been gambling for a long time I'm sure you have some of their characteristics.