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Posted more info here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5135232 since is more hidden than meta, and has more relevant clues.
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Just a guess to how could he find the private keys! Huh

Billions of private keys are already found on the web, random private keys are "easy" to find the hard part is finding the private key of one specific address and since we have billions of address the chance to get a private key for an address with founds is very very very very very very very low.
Anyway, we are going offtopic.

Does anyone know if the update on GitHub profile can be done only from the author or the profile?
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I guess @coinlocket$ found the private key to one of his address from the thousands of leaked private keys on the web.

Basically, it is not always through a brute force attack as he already side he would rather attack a key with some funds not an empty address. But he could have found it on web itself, an excellent example of an website were you can find 1889807 leaked private keys.

https://allprivatekeys.com/check-bitcoin-address-in-leaked-bitcoin-private-keys-database.php

Just a guess to how could he find the private keys! Huh
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What address is the private key to? Can you sign a message from it? I would think that would be harmless.

Are you sure GitHub did not auto "update" all profiles around the time it is showing as being last updated?

Obviously his private key is somewhere in the public domain. If you cannot post the address, was it the private key he held the forum bitcoin in?

I've asked to a friend of mine that is quite good with this kind of thing and he said is a manual update, someone should be doing it. I'm not sure of it since I do not know anything about GitHub.

For the address, I can sign a message but you will see the address, as I said I will share it only with theymos if he wants it.
No, it is a useless address with only a few transactions on it and it wasn't the address with 250 BTC.

I have a lot more to share about it but someone can think is inappropriate, so I don't know if I will share it publicly.
Ah, I was under the impression you would only share the private key with theymos.

Theymos (presumably) has paraipan's dox, as I assume it was given to him so theymos could file tax forms in relation to paraipan's payment he would receive for holding the forum's money. Unless you have information to suggest paraipan had multiple IRL identities, or that he faked his death, I am not sure how much value this would be.

theymos also does not appear to be especially interested in playing an active role in recovering the money, perhaps out of fear of violating debt collection (and similar) laws.
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So you are telling me you found a privkey on the internet that he used? That doesn't sound right. Lol

Search yourself, you will be surprised. It is not so easy to find it but with a good investigation, you will find it.

@loyce that could be a good solution, let me think about it I have several personal information.

Do you know anything if the GitHub profile can be updated only manually in Locale?
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What address is the private key to? Can you sign a message from it? I would think that would be harmless.

Are you sure GitHub did not auto "update" all profiles around the time it is showing as being last updated?

Obviously his private key is somewhere in the public domain. If you cannot post the address, was it the private key he held the forum bitcoin in?

I've asked to a friend of mine that is quite good with this kind of thing and he said is a manual update, someone should be doing it. I'm not sure of it since I do not know anything about GitHub.

For the address, I can sign a message but you will see the address, as I said I will share it only with theymos if he wants it.
No, it is a useless address with only a few transactions on it and it wasn't the address with 250 BTC.

I have a lot more to share about it but someone can think is inappropriate, so I don't know if I will share it publicly.


So you are telling me you found a privkey on the internet that he used? That doesn't sound right. Lol
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I have a lot more to share about it but someone can think is inappropriate, so I don't know if I will share it publicly.
Post it in Investigations (and PM me the link, I don't often go there)?
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What address is the private key to? Can you sign a message from it? I would think that would be harmless.

Are you sure GitHub did not auto "update" all profiles around the time it is showing as being last updated?

Obviously his private key is somewhere in the public domain. If you cannot post the address, was it the private key he held the forum bitcoin in?

I've asked to a friend of mine that is quite good with this kind of thing and he said is a manual update, someone should be doing it. I'm not sure of it since I do not know anything about GitHub.

For the address, I can sign a message but you will see the address, as I said I will share it only with theymos if he wants it.
No, it is a useless address with only a few transactions on it and it wasn't the address with 250 BTC.

I have a lot more to share about it but someone can think is inappropriate, so I don't know if I will share it publicly.
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With a lot of research, you have no idea!

I can post one more not a harmless thing

his GitHub profile has been updated on 2017, even if I have no idea on why and who could do it.

https://api.github.com/users/paraipan

What address is the private key to? Can you sign a message from it? I would think that would be harmless.

Are you sure GitHub did not auto "update" all profiles around the time it is showing as being last updated? Are you able to rule out something changing that would not be caused by someone logging into the account? The API response does show it being updated in 2017, but there are no "contributions" in years. I see it lists the email as "null" -- perhaps github removed the email when it got a "bounceback" when his email account was closed due to inactivity (this is of course speculation).

Obviously his private key is somewhere in the public domain. If you cannot post the address, was it the private key he held the forum bitcoin in?
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If we can all get people's private keys by doing research theres no sense of using those private keys..

I answered. READ.
Search it and you will find it, as I said I can share the key to theymos only, for obvious reasons. (But the wallet is empty and with only few transactions)

To answer to your brutal force attack, your keys will probably be safe for another 50+ years with the actual progression of the power calculation of pc and the difficulty of keys, when the power of pc will be enough to be a problem for the brutal attack they will probably change the difficulty of keys.

Also if I can brutal force an address assuming that I want to do it, do you think I will attack an empty wallet or one with bitcoin on it? Roll Eyes
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With a lot of research, you have no idea!

I can post one more not a harmless thing

his GitHub profile has been updated on 2017, even if I have no idea on why and who could do it.

https://api.github.com/users/paraipan

just answer the question,how did you? if you forcefully got it you technically stole it,did you?
If we can all get people's private keys by doing research theres no sense of using those private keys..
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With a lot of research, you have no idea!

I can post one more not a harmless thing

his GitHub profile has been updated on 2017, even if I have no idea on why and who could do it.

https://api.github.com/users/paraipan
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After 3 days of researches.

I've found a private key of Paraipan but the address is empty, I found a lot of interesting things but this may seem offensive for somebody, so I don't really know if I should post them or not.

For the private key, I will never share it publicly, if theymos wants it I will send it by pm only to him. (the key is for a very low-value address and I do not think it will be used ever again)
How did you find his private key?
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After 3 days of researches.

I've found a private key of Paraipan but the address is empty, I found a lot of interesting things but this may seem offensive for somebody, so I don't really know if I should post them or not.

For the private key, I will never share it publicly, if theymos wants it I will send it by pm only to him. (the key is for a very low-value address and I do not think it will be used ever again)
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This case is very interesting, spent some hours on it and I found something very very interesting, I will dig more tomorrow. Bed time now.

Edit: before posting here if I can confirm what I found I will send a message to Theymos so do not except till I can confirm what I found.
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Just picked up a few addresses that were involved in the chain of addresses and still have BTC in them

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn
Address   143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn
Hash 160   215d214c4abab48e85a66666b1578bf47b2c8208
Transactions
No. Transactions   8   
Total Received   182.00000002 BTC   
Final Balance   30.00000002 BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh
Address   16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh
Hash 160   3d768f2a851207666470db6cf35482bc63f38527
Transactions
No. Transactions   4   
Total Received   101.00000001 BTC   
Final Balance   100.00000001 BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp
Address   1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp
Hash 160   a58f1a9d9a857f299b39ab04a6b565bee7cfafe7
Transactions
No. Transactions   8   
Total Received   46.05435398 BTC   
Final Balance   5 BTC



 
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Has his death be confirmed? You know on 2014 Bitcoin reached 1k value after the pump and 250 bitcoin were 250k usd, if he death has be confirmed somewhere than RIP.



An interesting fact the account vite who announced the peraipan's death here, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rest-in-peace-paraipan-583286 seems to be now a hacked or sold account http://archive.fo/MTfeg , looking at his post history. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vite-49941;sa=showPosts;start=0

Username: vite
Current Post Count: 1014
Current Rank: Legendary
Bitcoin Address: 35SFL9incRGj8pu7Q8YBxV3WZux3ByQsMY

Good luck on the project. Hope this coin will become much more worthy in the future. Cheeers.

Address: 1DDeQqc9xCxtW8tyrNP6afkM5y6FzzWtSk

Sadly both addresses are virgin.

Raw data of addresses involved

Code:
1D2hSwYYiEmEim2ot8Ga3vhxY46Hd8Z5gc

143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn 1NNTmFuUTSM88oDztgM7Fczmk1Vtj7TF3e
1GpmtW7YovmRGcNrf3P6NEaYm6dikrkv7w
143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn

14QevMsY5KDLJuNNL86ZyYwEFQEviVUhqm
3AcGbPBMGVsMC2kPSgqwYn63UhVSChTEp9
1Nf1vbBEuURWHvqgBpN5dw1zyQZvDBQdj1
3DNsL67AdgMq2z21N9EWxQnRqtECatBjoa
38ktjFh4G6r5VvqbNNZ8zpujUUiaZ2MEpW


17nHkrMaXyRyKdoqiyeDDC27vCGAc7SL7h
37eBwh6TH5n93z1ifEpb7U553Q3UmYdcYi
18KJBw1FpYveqTmFpPphWgJobozrssJJ2B
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3AJNm5fqrs5n67acpExdD3opVvXsvfYvwo
114FkMZMuxNBGx6y2CG1F15n4eVYkht1z4





143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn


1AzTFeLr7L59aMjjLagKvHsZVBFTwFcrvf



19jZC7k4apchzkYYzb2GSvDH5E5ipTjFY6
1Gozcijs8FbuBkkeABTAp1JZ1JwzS8k6nT
1L7pfak1spHnC7inTaXBaEoaSMqZdXmtGr
1H9jiaunR16DMzmSjaQYkqvEas5GjC9opf
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16268hB86YiM95taTG729p8w6b8nDL8nug



14amNafSso8NQSFCfsjjPy1cXUnv94jX15
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37DCWUGQHDuYgH4H3Dr3PNZ6aqmPG1chr3





1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp
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16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh

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14amNafSso8NQSFCfsjjPy1cXUnv94jX15
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Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?

This is always my issue with exploring into this sort of thing.
Who knows if the original owner even has the coins, most chains have been tainted and even selling the private keys was sometimes done in the past...

I think bitstamp probably knows who had the coins as they appear to have been deposited into their exchange.

If someone can figure out the owner of the bitstamp account, the owner can at least be asked questions about the coins.

If the coins were moved on behalf of paraipans estate, I think it is probably too late to try to recover the money as there are time limits on how long creditors have to file claims against an estate, although the lack of service may affect these limits — an estate lawyer can provide more specific advice on the matter.

I doubt the owner would give any form of information without some form of legal request.

I can't think of a valid reason not to switch to multi-sig asap. Paraipan has already proven what can happen without it.
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Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?

This is always my issue with exploring into this sort of thing.
Who knows if the original owner even has the coins, most chains have been tainted and even selling the private keys was sometimes done in the past...

I think bitstamp probably knows who had the coins as they appear to have been deposited into their exchange.

If someone can figure out the owner of the bitstamp account, the owner can at least be asked questions about the coins.

If the coins were moved on behalf of paraipans estate, I think it is probably too late to try to recover the money as there are time limits on how long creditors have to file claims against an estate, although the lack of service may affect these limits — an estate lawyer can provide more specific advice on the matter.
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No, several people looked into it, but nobody was able to make contact with anyone who knew anything about what he did with the BTC or who might've stolen it after his death. The 25% reward still stands on any returned amount.

So 25% from that stolen BTC huh, the culprit is very difficult to find and with the existent of Bitcoin Mixer the mission to locate that guy is almost impposible. I wonder who got his Private Key after he died, his Wife? and maybe the people who is close to him might have some hints.
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Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?

This is always my issue with exploring into this sort of thing.
Who knows if the original owner even has the coins, most chains have been tainted and even selling the private keys was sometimes done in the past...

I remember nottingham university in the UK had a professor bring out something that blacklisted addresses where "dark funds" ended up (stuff stolen or related to illegal activites) and there is always some dubiousness as most people try to use anonymising services in this space (usually for normal reasons, who wants to advertise how much money they actually have)?
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It looks like the funds ended up at bitstamp.

Contact bitstmp and find out who the owner of the account who has a deposit address of 3GEnQ7ChhGoPCcBn2CRJexNcgK7FMaBGTr is. This is likely the person who has access to the 250BTC that paraipan was holding for the forum, and likely a heir to the estate of paraipan.

The above address received BTC from 1K3CxWrq91rByL9PjV9wccfhyuToF2WNRX and 1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp in 2015.

1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp received .5BTC from 1F1s6gdLNT8YP4eqrwwsyfxfF5gaCJ9nAP earlier this year.

1F1s6gdLNT8YP4eqrwwsyfxfF5gaCJ9nAP received 0.9999BTC from 16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh the same day as the above transaction.

16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh received BTC in 2012 AND 100BTC that can reasonably be traced back to the 250BTC paraipan was holding by looking back just 3 transactions to find the address that paraipan held the forum's BTC in.

Bitstamp will likely ask for a court order to release the identity of that account holder, and I don't think most courts will issue such an order to anyone except to either you or law enforcement who is investigating the theft of the above BTC.

Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?
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No, several people looked into it, but nobody was able to make contact with anyone who knew anything about what he did with the BTC or who might've stolen it after his death. The 25% reward still stands on any returned amount.
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.
This incident has been a long time, until now it has not been solved.
Many want to solve it but have not succeeded.
This is more complete information.

Treasurers

Looking for people to store some of the forum's money

Forum Treasures Public Addresses for Transparency

Parapian's BTC address holding BCT money?

Forum 250 Btc theft, what's being done about it? Inside job?

Paraipan a treasurer for the forum holding 250 btc allegedly died in April of 2014 since then the account has logged in multiple times which is fairly suspicious. What is being done to recover the 250 Bitcoins because this is starting to look like a scam and it could be an inside job. The management of this forum is getting sketchier and sketchier and with things getting worse I am feeling like I will have to start cleaning things up around here. Pair this scam with the complete mismanagement of the new forum software, the forums donations have been drained by incompetence and thievery.

Paraipan's btt profile:    https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/paraipan-29395
btt treasurer list: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/forum-funds-155000
btt donater list: https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html
profile of developer of new btt forum software: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/wangbus-207730
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Anyone know why Theymos didn't think it a good idea to use multisig with the treasurers? This probably means he didn't care too much about the funds that were stolen (especially since there was a 25% reward)... Potentially Theymos just moved on from this so...

I think there was another thread on him to as details of his identity were published briefly by a user here about 3 or 4 years ago. The information was since deleted.

Multi sig wasn’t as prevalent as it is now, real question is why there is still a single point of failure for forum funds in 2019
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Anyone know why Theymos didn't think it a good idea to use multisig with the treasurers?
It was brought up in the old thread, but I haven't seen talk about it in recent time. You got to wait for master to answer.

The forum should move the existing funds that are held by single users into multi-sig ASAP. I know folks like OgNasty are reliable, but shit happens and people die every day.
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Anyone know why Theymos didn't think it a good idea to use multisig with the treasurers? This probably means he didn't care too much about the funds that were stolen (especially since there was a 25% reward)... Potentially Theymos just moved on from this so...

I think there was another thread on him to as details of his identity were published briefly by a user here about 3 or 4 years ago. The information was since deleted.
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.

I think theymos posted the thread because he offered a reward if the btc was recovered. I don't remember

I am speaking about the bitcointalk fourm treasurers. Who stole the funds from the fourm.

I don't think the treasurer stole the funds, he died with the funds in his wallet and then a couple years later the funds or some of the funds were moved. The thread was posted by theymos and he offered 25% of whatever was recovered to whoever could recover it
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.

I think theymos posted the thread because he offered a reward if the btc was recovered. I don't remember

I am speaking about the bitcointalk fourm treasurers. Who stole the funds from the fourm.
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It was said he passed away, and than maybe a year? later the funds for the forum where moved. I don't see any threads and I tried to google search it via site:bitcointalk.org but don't know enough keywords to find anything. I should have just book marked the thread.

I think you should add more information about who stole what. Stole from who, from an exchange? from the forum? from theymos? from satoshi?

(I do know anything about this, so more info you put the better it is)
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.
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It was said he passed away, and than maybe a year? later the funds for the forum where moved. I don't see any threads and I tried to google search it via site:bitcointalk.org but don't know enough keywords to find anything. I should have just book marked the thread.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/paraipans-coins-on-the-move-1577411



Found it

So any new news?
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