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Topic: Any services like TheBigCoin? (Pay fiat invoices with Bitcoin) (Read 263 times)

legendary
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Hmm. These are all interesting sites.

So what if a site is non-IBAN? If it's a SWIFT /ACH transfer, won't it take like days to clear? I see some potential problems regarding all that.

I do have to say, your prices/fee structure doesn't seem exactly right. (You're charging 3.5% vs the ~2% advertised.) Still, if i compare that to some other exchanges, bitonic et al, you're offering much better rates.

What's stopping someone from cashing out bitcoins using your service? I mean, there's no KYC, right? 1000EUR per transaction goes a long way. I guess my IBAN would be used as some sort of identifier? Or if i'm using another third party service for cashing out you wouldn't have any identifying information. Interesting.


We only do IBAN service, no SWIFT. We have tried to international payments as well but the hassle and costs are way higher and so not intresting at all.

We do hold KYC/AML policies, if you reach your limits we will request more details to verify funds and identity. Unfortunly something that is neccesary to fight abuse of the concept

Our fee structure is clear. We use DigiPaid as our payment provider, which offcourse has it own rates. For our service we only charge a 1% fee.

Since the demand of such crypto services is here and increasing we will offer various different services in the near future.
legendary
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I think this could be a pretty popular thing if implemented correctly. I would probably use such a site instead of buying giftcards for amazon @ a 10% markup rate.

I considered the demand too low for such services (maybe wrongly) and the fact there are already a few websites (as quoted) old and established for some.

Basically, I could even process to pay the bills instantly for the EU and use other currencies for others. As well, a gift cards option, (with a 1:1 rate and no crazy rates). Can't say much, in case I was wrong (I'll do a KW research again) but it was something a little more advanced
I mean.. It looks like Bitrefill is thriving, and they are basically offering the same service you would be offering, but they do so with some huge markup rates on most giftcards (as i said it can be up to 10%).
Perhaps people feel more secure with giftcards since they can attach them to their own account...?

If you don't need a lot of liquidity to create something like this, and you can wrap it in a good UI, with clear instructions and detailed information (extended dashboard with shipping information etc.) I think it very well might be worth trying.

Although, i don't really know whether amazon et al will approve of this, since basically you'll be, (if successful) ordering 100s if not thousands of products from the same account(=same IBAN/BIC rather) shipping to different adresses.
I can already see a lot of problems arising whenever you try to scale it..  Undecided

Looking at something like dashbargain, -- it might very well work, but it doesn't seem to be A. automated, or B, very userfriendly. They basically say "submit your order and we'll see about it and send you a coinpayments link later." with little to no other information. I feel like a lot of people that don't know about them aren't inclined to use them.

I don't know, perhaps i'm overestimating the amount of people that actually use Bitcoin for shopping as well, considering other websites removed their BTC payment options after implementing them.
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I think this could be a pretty popular thing if implemented correctly. I would probably use such a site instead of buying giftcards for amazon @ a 10% markup rate.

I considered the demand too low for such services (maybe wrongly) and the fact there are already a few websites (as quoted) old and established for some.

Basically, I could even process to pay the bills instantly for the EU and use other currencies for others. As well, a gift cards option, (with a 1:1 rate and no crazy rates). Can't say much, in case I was wrong (I'll do a KW research again) but it was something a little more advanced
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
Check our service https://www.bitbill.eu

We are here since 2013

Hmm. These are all interesting sites.

So what if a site is non-IBAN? If it's a SWIFT /ACH transfer, won't it take like days to clear? I see some potential problems regarding all that.

I do have to say, your prices/fee structure doesn't seem exactly right. (You're charging 3.5% vs the ~2% advertised.) Still, if i compare that to some other exchanges, bitonic et al, you're offering much better rates.

What's stopping someone from cashing out bitcoins using your service? I mean, there's no KYC, right? 1000EUR per transaction goes a long way. I guess my IBAN would be used as some sort of identifier? Or if i'm using another third party service for cashing out you wouldn't have any identifying information. Interesting.

https://bitwants.com/
http://www.dashbargain.com
https://bitcoinsuperstore.us/

I didn't try any of them, just bookmarked long ago because I wanted to create something similar.
Dashbargain should have a topic discussion here if I remember.

If you plan to get a BTC card as suggested, keep in mind some stores don't accept these cards.
I think this could be a pretty popular thing if implemented correctly. I would probably use such a site instead of buying giftcards for amazon @ a 10% markup rate.
legendary
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Check our service https://www.bitbill.eu

We are here since 2013
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Dashbargain should have a topic discussion here if I remember


Yes exactly, here it is Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2138498.100

We cannot make SEPA transfers, but will be happy to buy anything for you with a credit card.

www.DashBargain.com
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https://bitwants.com/
http://www.dashbargain.com
https://bitcoinsuperstore.us/

I didn't try any of them, just bookmarked long ago because I wanted to create something similar.
Dashbargain should have a topic discussion here if I remember.

If you plan to get a BTC card as suggested, keep in mind some stores don't accept these cards.
staff
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I managed to find a service called Bitcoin Super store but not sure how legitimate it is, I suggest you do more research about it.

I would also recommend checking Bitrefill.com for gift cards (You might find whatever product you're trying to buy in Walmart, Target, eBay or other services). You can also order a bitcoin debit card If you're from EU/US.

As a last resort, you can try to find someone to do it for you on the forums. It shouldn't be hard to find someone trustworthy, as long as you're paying a a fee. The only downside of this is that it can be time-consuming sometimes.
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