Any sportsbook that allows parlay from the same game?

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Quote from: Naida_BR on January 24, 2020, 04:31:25 PM

What would be the reason to play a correlated parlay for the same game?
Obviously the odds would not be the best and you are most likely to lose it.

If you want to place a bet on Liverpool to win for example, you could boost your odds by parlaying it with Liverpool over 0.5. Because for Liverpool to win, they would need to score a goal. No goal for them, no win possible.

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Quote from: ralle14 on January 23, 2020, 06:51:39 AM

Those are called correlated parlays I remember there's an old sportsbook where I was able to do correlated parlay betting map 1 and 2 (moneyline) on the same esports match instead of the handicap for a better payout but they already closed down afaik. Maybe it's still possible with a different sportsbook since they're using ultraplay which is currently used by some sportsbook.

What would be the reason to play a correlated parlay for the same game?
Obviously the odds would not be the best and you are most likely to lose it.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 24, 2020, 01:49:38 PM

Not gonna happen even on traditional bookies. You can't parlay a bet on a same event as the risks on the bookies' side is too high compared to what they can gain. If you ever find one, I'm pretty sure they are a charity in disguise trying to help out their degenerate gambling followers get a grip on life while still doing the things that they all love.

Everyone would be winning huge sums should this ever happen. Imagine getting all of the underdog bets on a single event? The next day you'll see the bookie closing their doors.

actually most traditional bookies offer this. its called differently on all bookmakers. bet365 its called bet builders, Betfair its called same game multi, bet first its called multiway. I just filled one in quickly just to give an example. below you see a multiway with 3 selections all from the same game.

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Not gonna happen even on traditional bookies. You can't parlay a bet on a same event as the risks on the bookies' side is too high compared to what they can gain. If you ever find one, I'm pretty sure they are a charity in disguise trying to help out their degenerate gambling followers get a grip on life while still doing the things that they all love.

Everyone would be winning huge sums should this ever happen. Imagine getting all of the underdog bets on a single event? The next day you'll see the bookie closing their doors.

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Allowing parlay on same result is like exponentially increasing the odds for every games. You can ideally get profit on any results if this were true. So, there are no same result parlay at all. The best thing as mentioned by previous users is to bet on similar or implying results if you are quite sure about the outcome. But again, not every of the parlay condition may meet and any one of them failing would make you lose the bet.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 23, 2020, 02:34:07 AM

There are no bookies who will allow this. It's too risky for them.

Quote from: magneto on January 23, 2020, 04:18:36 AM

Would that still be too risky for bookies to accept into their business model?

It's not about risk Wink

If bookmakers would allow those kind of correlated bets, they would have to cease operations a few days later. You could make immense surebets and the bookmakers would run out of funds in a heartbeat. Lets have look at a simple example with tonights Dortmund - Cologne match in german Bundesliga (odds taken from Sportsbet):

Parlay #1: Dortmund win & Dortmund win/draw, odds 1,39, stake 89,65
Parlay #2: Cologne win & Cologne win/draw, odds 29,9, stake 4,17
Parlay #3: Draw & Cologne win/draw, odds 20,15, stake 6,18

Now, no matter the outcome, I will win 24,61. And you can repeat this over and over again with hundreds of bets per day.

As to why bookmakers don't even allow uncorrelated bets from one market to be parlayed (or just be parlayed via some special tool/offer), this is just for convenience. By disabling any parlays inside these markets, they are on the safe side then and don't have to worry with certain things being exploited maybe in the future. No headaches.

In the past you could find some loopholes in some bookies softwares for non-mainstream markets/sports though, if you paid good attention and as was mentioned by some user above. These loopholes I knew about were closed already, so don't get excited.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 23, 2020, 06:02:18 PM

I think that's the normal on every sportsbook, yeah, I can tell that I have the same experience before when using nitrogen, you cannot parlay the spread and total or even ML and total. However, there are sportsbook that can would give an odds of ML+total so I think it's better than nothing.

I also notice that Nitrogen have a very few lines offer in basketball unlike other sportsbook like sportsbet, stake, and playbetr.

I attempted this before as well. Multibet is not allowed not only on ML, spread, and total but on all lines in a similar match even totals on quarters and odd/even lines.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on January 24, 2020, 05:00:46 AM

So basically after all the feedback,,, actually there are no crypto bookies that offer this at all right? Did not see any names mentioned. I also would like to bet on things. For Spurs for example, sometimes the 1x2 is too small, I would love to bet on Spurs to win and <2 yellow cards, for example. Parlay that and the odds will become quite nice.

You can have a look at 1xbet (not 1xbit) This is a fiat bookie that also accepts crypto as deposit option. I don't know if they offer that feature. I can't have a look cause my country is restricted so I cannot access the site to have a look.

You can also check out Asianconnect88.com. this is a betting broker. Through their portal you can get access to betting accounts on platforms like matchbook, pinnacle, SBObet and a couple more. This all are fiat betting platforms but by playing through a broker platform you are able to fund the accounts with BTC

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Quote from: magneto on January 23, 2020, 05:35:23 PM

Quote from: pleasureteam on January 23, 2020, 10:07:20 AM

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That is exactly what I'm looking for.

Correlated parlays are parlays that allow you to bet on a single outcome but leverage your position, if i understand correctly. While what I'm looking for is more of a way to bet on different outcomes that are not necessarily correlated to each other, but on the same match.

Seems like that I'm out of luck though since I don't want to play on fiat sportsbooks (they seem to ban people on impulse and restrict accounts arbitrarily).

yeah don't really ban but lots of fiat bookies put limits on your account if you win to much. Thats the reason why I rather use a betting exchange when gambling with fiat. But so far for me I havent been limited or restricted on any fiat site so far. The reason for that is that I do not do value betting or arb betting. I mostly play system bets and bet builders with smaller amounts. So they make enough money on me.

But I wouldn't be to hesitant not to play on fiat bookies. Yes they require kyc to get your account verified. But they will not ban or restrict you for no reason. As long as you do not do valuebets and put 500-1000€ on every bet then you easily stay below the radar. I personally play already on Betfair for 5 years. Already cashed a lot of money from that platform and never had any issue.
I rather do not want to put to much money on a crypto sports book. They seem to lock, ban accounts and confiscate funds for no reason. And where do you go. If you file a complaint through a curaçao licensed sports book you will never get your money back. but if you have a complaint against a UK licensed sports book you will always have somewhere to go to resolve the issue

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So basically after all the feedback,,, actually there are no crypto bookies that offer this at all right? Did not see any names mentioned. I also would like to bet on things. For Spurs for example, sometimes the 1x2 is too small, I would love to bet on Spurs to win and <2 yellow cards, for example. Parlay that and the odds will become quite nice.

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I think that's the normal on every sportsbook, yeah, I can tell that I have the same experience before when using nitrogen, you cannot parlay the spread and total or even ML and total. However, there are sportsbook that can would give an odds of ML+total so I think it's better than nothing.

I also notice that Nitrogen have a very few lines offer in basketball unlike other sportsbook like sportsbet, stake, and playbetr.

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Quote from: pleasureteam on January 23, 2020, 10:07:20 AM

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That is exactly what I'm looking for.

Correlated parlays are parlays that allow you to bet on a single outcome but leverage your position, if i understand correctly. While what I'm looking for is more of a way to bet on different outcomes that are not necessarily correlated to each other, but on the same match.

Seems like that I'm out of luck though since I don't want to play on fiat sportsbooks (they seem to ban people on impulse and restrict accounts arbitrarily).

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Quote from: magneto on January 23, 2020, 02:24:38 AM

I'm wondering this because Nitrogen, which is where I usually play on, doesn't allow this. They only allow cross game parlays.

I'm not familiar with how the sportsbook world works in general since I'm just a casual player.

Is it industry standard to reject multi-bets from the same game (e.g. betting on ML as well as the spread, or ML as well as over/under)? Are there any crypto operators that allow you to do this?

So far as I know I havent seen a crypto bookie offering cross game parlays but I do know that the big fiat bookies offer this feature. I practically play them daily.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 23, 2020, 02:34:07 AM

There are no bookies who will allow this. It's too risky for them.

Imagine in a football match a bookie allow you to make selections in a parley from the same match. Let's say team X has very good chance to win and in this case you go with:
Team X to win
Team X to win or draw
Team X to win in draw no bet
Team X to score over 0.5 goals
Team X to qualify
Team X to win at least one half
Notice you already got a 6 selection parley only if team X wins.

By the way, I had such thing in mind and still have it in mind to make a system which will allow multibet from same match. I am still experimenting it with Cricket matches.

Check some of the multibet in same event on here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53035787

The example you gave is not exactly correct. there are bookies offering cross betting parlays on the same game but not every selection is possible for example you cannot combine team x to win and team x to win or draw. In below picture you see one I played recently on the same game.
As I said I play them practically daily. But in my bet builders (that's how they are called) I very often compose a 1 game accumulator and add goal scorers and players getting carded. But I sometimes also compose bet builders for example team x to win , team x to lead at half time, over 2.5 goals and both teams to score ..... or something like that

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Quote from: ralle14 on January 23, 2020, 06:51:39 AM

Those are called correlated parlays I remember there's an old sportsbook where I was able to do correlated parlay betting map 1 and 2 (moneyline) on the same esports match instead of the handicap for a better payout but they already closed down afaik. Maybe it's still possible with a different sportsbook since they're using ultraplay which is currently used by some sportsbook.

I could not think of the correct term but this is what it is called indeed- correlated parlays
This is a bad scenario for the bookie to offer this betting option which is why NITROGEN will not offer it for you

https://www.boydsbets.com/correlated-parlays/

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Those are called correlated parlays I remember there's an old sportsbook where I was able to do correlated parlay betting map 1 and 2 (moneyline) on the same esports match instead of the handicap for a better payout but they already closed down afaik. Maybe it's still possible with a different sportsbook since they're using ultraplay which is currently used by some sportsbook.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on January 23, 2020, 02:34:07 AM

There are no bookies who will allow this. It's too risky for them.

Imagine in a football match a bookie allow you to make selections in a parley from the same match. Let's say team X has very good chance to win and in this case you go with:
Team X to win
Team X to win or draw
Team X to win in draw no bet
Team X to score over 0.5 goals
Team X to qualify
Team X to win at least one half
Notice you already got a 6 selection parley only if team X wins.

By the way, I had such thing in mind and still have it in mind to make a system which will allow multibet from same match. I am still experimenting it with Cricket matches.

Check some of the multibet in same event on here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53035787

Right. But couldn't this be done to bets that are not necessarily related?

Say that within a match, one can parlay ML and over/under points total, but not ML and handicap, for instance.

Would that still be too risky for bookies to accept into their business model?

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Quote from: magneto on January 23, 2020, 02:24:38 AM

I'm wondering this because Nitrogen, which is where I usually play on, doesn't allow this. They only allow cross game parlays.

I'm not familiar with how the sportsbook world works in general since I'm just a casual player.

Is it industry standard to reject multi-bets from the same game (e.g. betting on ML as well as the spread, or ML as well as over/under)? Are there any crypto operators that allow you to do this?

Many sport books allow you to bet on Ml and over or on double chance and both teams to score but only one selection.You cannot add two bets of the same event in a parlay.For example I bet rarely on double chance and over to get higher odds from a selection but I can’t choose another bet from the same game and put it in a parlay.This is not permitted in almost every sport book,Fiat or crypto.

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There are no bookies who will allow this. It's too risky for them.

Imagine in a football match a bookie allow you to make selections in a parley from the same match. Let's say team X has very good chance to win and in this case you go with:
Team X to win
Team X to win or draw
Team X to win in draw no bet
Team X to score over 0.5 goals
Team X to qualify
Team X to win at least one half
Notice you already got a 6 selection parley only if team X wins.

By the way, I had such thing in mind and still have it in mind to make a system which will allow multibet from same match. I am still experimenting it with Cricket matches.

Check some of the multibet in same event on here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53035787

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I'm wondering this because Nitrogen, which is where I usually play on, doesn't allow this. They only allow cross game parlays.

I'm not familiar with how the sportsbook world works in general since I'm just a casual player.

Is it industry standard to reject multi-bets from the same game (e.g. betting on ML as well as the spread, or ML as well as over/under)? Are there any crypto operators that allow you to do this?

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