Any way to track down a guy on Binance

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Quote from: Little Mouse on February 25, 2022, 11:43:56 AM

One of our facebook group member has been scammed for $1000. Scammer has used a Binance usdt address to receive the payment. Is there any way to track him? We need his number to get his identity. I know it's very unlikely to happen without any legal action but we can't go for legal action from Bangladesh.

Report this incident first to proper authority and for sure they will cooperate with binance to ask those important details to trace up the criminal and most provably this is easy for binance to provide especially when there are crimes happen and their platform has been used. Just tell your friend about the suggestion given and pursue the case so that he can put the scammer on jail and this will provably a big news on crypto industry if that happens.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on February 25, 2022, 11:43:56 AM

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I know it's very unlikely to happen without any legal action but we can't go for legal action from Bangladesh.

As you know, binance will only provide you with the data of the thief if they get a warrant from the legal authorities. All your friend needs to do is get a police report even if (forcefully) you have to do it outside Bangladesh. If the funds are sent from a noncustodial wallet, then anyone can temporarily acknowledge ownership of the wallet and voluntarily help report it to the appropriate authorities.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on February 27, 2022, 04:31:29 PM

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Since Binance unlikely to help since the victim can't make legal action, you should consider another way to track the scammer. Do you know what communicated method is used by the scammer? It's possible the scammer leave sensitive/personal information which could be used to track.

LM has mentioned about that they're in a facebook group, my guess is that they've likely transacted through chat on FB's messenger which can easily block and delete messages from both sides.

But he never explicirtly mention the victim use Facebook to find and contact the scammer, that's why i asked.

You're right, possible that he's been blocked already and cannot search the scammer anymore.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on February 27, 2022, 04:31:29 PM

Although, there is a possibility that the scammer has given some information about himself to the victim before the transaction has proceeded. Maybe like a phone number, address or any possible lead.

That's exactly what i hope, especially if the scammer keep reusing same information/contact method.

Yeah, it's very likely. IIRC, there were scammers that have always been using the same information. I'm hoping that they get a lead from the information that the victim has so that there's a possible chance that they'll get a trace of him.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 27, 2022, 06:36:56 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on February 27, 2022, 04:31:29 PM

LM has mentioned about that they're in a facebook group, my guess is that they've likely transacted through chat on FB's messenger which can easily block and delete messages from both sides.

I tend to agree with this, the conversations become useless as proof if the scammer knows how to delete their conversation of FB's messenger and it seems like on Telegram that you can delete message both parties.

Yes, in telegram it's the same. Scammers can block the victims easily and can delete messages as well.

Quote from: sheenshane on February 27, 2022, 06:36:56 PM

I have a little confusion here, how did the victim know that the USDT used by the scammer has come from the Binance address?
Because it's hard to determine which address comes from.

It's good to hear if OP will give an update on this and how they will resolve the issue or if the Binance staff give information to the victim.

It's actually possible. Try to look at USDT's contract address: https://etherscan.io/token/0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206994597c13d831ec7
You'll get to see where the transfers are being sent. It's viewable on which exchange it has been sent or where it came from.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on February 27, 2022, 04:31:29 PM

LM has mentioned about that they're in a facebook group, my guess is that they've likely transacted through chat on FB's messenger which can easily block and delete messages from both sides.

I tend to agree with this, the conversations become useless as proof if the scammer knows how to delete their conversation of FB's messenger and it seems like on Telegram that you can delete message both parties.

I have a little confusion here, how did the victim know that the USDT used by the scammer has come from the Binance address?
Because it's hard to determine which address comes from.

It's good to hear if OP will give an update on this and how they will resolve the issue or if the Binance staff give information to the victim.

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Since Binance unlikely to help since the victim can't make legal action, you should consider another way to track the scammer. Do you know what communicated method is used by the scammer? It's possible the scammer leave sensitive/personal information which could be used to track.

LM has mentioned about that they're in a facebook group, my guess is that they've likely transacted through chat on FB's messenger which can easily block and delete messages from both sides. Although, there is a possibility that the scammer has given some information about himself to the victim before the transaction has proceeded. Maybe like a phone number, address or any possible lead.
But it will be a pain if the victim has just sent the USDT without any of those information that would lead in tracking that scammer.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on February 25, 2022, 12:36:59 PM

Why not try to contact Binance maybe they can help you and ask for evidence and tell them how your friend scam with that guy. Maybe they can recommend a few suggestions if you can't go for a legal matter.

You can report them to Binance but I don't know if they can help you without legal matters. However, you have nothing to lose if you try

Check this guide from Binance on how to report them

- https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.binance.com/en/amp/support/faq/360000006051

It can help and will mark the account and if there's more complaint on that account, they will likely make an investigation but pushing Binance to show more it's unlikely that it's going to happen because of their strict TOS and spending more through legal means will get you to spend more so better think twice if it's worth it, why not report this in the scam section for reference so people will know that the said address is being used to scam people.

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Quote from: hugeblack on February 25, 2022, 04:40:27 PM

It's been a long time since I've been using binance, does Binance still giving me one USDT address? If so, tracking transactions at that address will give you more information.

Yea, it depends on which network have you been using. The address will remain the same for the deposit. You can't trace actually any further transactions from that address. It's because when a scammer will withdraw funds then it will be from Binance's hot wallet. So the transaction will end there. So far the only way to catch scammers take legal action. Reporting Binance would restrict scammer accounts for a while, but Binance will ask for legal action documents within 24 hours. So it will not an easy task to recover the funds.

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If you are quite confident that he used Binance exchange, their contacting Binance. They might be able to do something maybe, at least freeze the scammers funds/account if you can provide appropriate proof to them. But I doubt they will hand over the funds without getting any legal notice from your local authorities. They will freeze is so that the scammer can't withdraw or move the funds somewhere else. So your only option is to contact your local police and get their help to extract your funds from Binance. Since KYC is now mandatory in Binance, it would be easy to catch the scammer.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 25, 2022, 06:49:01 PM

Just try to read the Binance terms under the Restrictions. The account can be compromised or be freeze.

Try to contact the Binance team and report this incident to your local authorities, therefore after reporting, the Binance team will take action such an account and freeze the account immediately if the money that has been scammed has not yet been withdrawn. But I don't know about disclosing identity if Binance will do that part.

Just try any suggestions above even though it seems this case is unlikely will granted by Binance.

This is true, the likelihood that binance will only act if you have legal paper stating that this user is using the Binance's USDT address and scammed your friend. Because if it will only come from your friend with no legal attachments, I don't think Binance will entertain the complaint. But weigh first if you will incur expenses more than what is owed to him, better not pursue and charge it to experience. An expensive lesson to learn.

You can follow the advise of BitMaxz' above, no harm done if you will try.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on February 25, 2022, 01:42:09 PM

No, Binance will not do anything without notice from the legal authority. They aren't obliged to provide any personal data without legal notice from the government. They shouldn't reveal someone's privacy just by another user's request.

That is why I suggested him to try contact Binance not just for legal or getting the personal data of the scammer only is to protect her/his stolen funds and maybe Binance will take some few actions like suspending the account of the scammer for a while or temporarily paused the withdrawal for this scammer.

Without asking Binance support or asking for suggestions from Binance this issue will never solve and the scammer guy already did a few steps to run and take out the funds he stole.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on February 25, 2022, 11:43:56 AM

One of our facebook group member has been scammed for $1000. Scammer has used a Binance usdt address to receive the payment. Is there any way to track him? We need his number to get his identity. I know it's very unlikely to happen without any legal action but we can't go for legal action from Bangladesh.

You have no choice but to bring that case in Binance.

Unfortunately, as usual in a centralized exchange, there's a policy to protect users' identities. They can't just give it just because you have shown Binance proof. Why I'm aware? Because I have the same experience here in our local exchange.

The process is so hassled and will give you lots of trouble. See if you can follow the Binance procedure that they will provide.

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Just try to read the Binance terms under the Restrictions. The account can be compromised or be freeze.

Try to contact the Binance team and report this incident to your local authorities, therefore after reporting, the Binance team will take action such an account and freeze the account immediately if the money that has been scammed has not yet been withdrawn. But I don't know about disclosing identity if Binance will do that part.

Just try any suggestions above even though it seems this case is unlikely will granted by Binance.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on February 25, 2022, 01:42:09 PM

No, Binance will not do anything without notice from the legal authority. They aren't obliged to provide any personal data without legal notice from the government. They shouldn't reveal someone's privacy just by another user's request.

OP, if the scammer never shares his address publicly then likely you can't find him anyway. On the other hand, you can't take legal action due to crypto restrictions in your country. So no alternatives to find him through social networks.

Sometimes when you report this scam, the platform will search for the record of that user and if he has committed any criminal behavior, the platform will freeze the account and then the scammer can be tracked.

It's been a long time since I've been using binance, does Binance still giving me one USDT address? If so, tracking transactions at that address will give you more information.

Generally, you can do nothing but contact the support team, and if binance has a business license in Bangladesh, it will be tested to share data with the court and thus track user data in the future.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on February 25, 2022, 12:36:59 PM

Why not try to contact Binance maybe they can help you and ask for evidence and tell them how your friend scam with that guy. Maybe they can recommend a few suggestions if you can't go for a legal matter.

No, Binance will not do anything without notice from the legal authority. They aren't obliged to provide any personal data without legal notice from the government. They shouldn't reveal someone's privacy just by another user's request.

OP, if the scammer never shares his address publicly then likely you can't find him anyway. On the other hand, you can't take legal action due to crypto restrictions in your country. So no alternatives to find him through social networks.

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Why not try to contact Binance maybe they can help you and ask for evidence and tell them how your friend scam with that guy. Maybe they can recommend a few suggestions if you can't go for a legal matter.

You can report them to Binance but I don't know if they can help you without legal matters. However, you have nothing to lose if you try

Check this guide from Binance on how to report them

- https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.binance.com/en/amp/support/faq/360000006051

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You can collaborate with your local government and lawyers to contact Binance. But unfortunately, he/she will very likely end up spending far more than $1000 if he/she is going to pursue this. He/she's better off to just take the loss, learn from it, and move on.

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This is highly unlikely. When it comes to legal matters exchanges like binance, probably they will ask legal documents regarding for criminal investigation or similar.

Your only way to know the user if the wallet address is available publicly with his information which is nearly zero chance to happen.

Here's binance policy quoting their statement about such issue.

Quote from: https://www.binance.com/en/privacy

Protection of Binance and others: We release account and other personal information when we believe release is appropriate to comply with the law or with our regulatory obligations; enforce or apply our Terms of Use and other agreements; or protect the rights, property or safety of Binance, our users or others. This includes exchanging information with other companies and organisations for fraud protection and credit risk reduction.

https://www.binance.com/en/support/law-enforcement/guidelines

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One of our facebook group member has been scammed for $1000. Scammer has used a Binance usdt address to receive the payment. Is there any way to track him? We need his number to get his identity. I know it's very unlikely to happen without any legal action but we can't go for legal action from Bangladesh.

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