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Quote from: eternalgloom on December 25, 2018, 08:28:44 AM

Also @buwaytress I share your concerns about Steemit itself.
As long as bots run the platform, it's basically useless as a social media website.

My hope is that Steem Inc will slowly start selling all of their shares in the platform and let the community take over.
The mismanagement of the platform is hugely their fault IMO and once new Steem interfaces start popping up, the bots will no longer be an issue.

There are already people working on building dapps that completely erradicate any posts on which bots have been used.
Which is a step in the right direction.

Yeah, this wasn't even a recent problem. Even in 2016, I'd stopped using it when an original story could get over 100 votes and maybe stagger 1 cent, while a new account uploading nothing but selfies purporting to be some innocent girl new to Steemit could get hundreds of dollars. Not sure if it's that bad anymore but recent trips to read posts especially on trending seem to suggest not much has changed.

If it's true bots will be eradicated, at least there will be genuine traffic, but I'm not sure even that will attract back those who've left.

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Quote from: buwaytress on December 24, 2018, 08:34:02 AM

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For blockchain-based Q&A platform, it's great (at least for general/common question).

However i prefer choose Quora, Stackexchange or BTT for technical-oriented question. I've searched for few question such as What is the state of Bitcoin's lightning network right now? & Is the growing size of Bitcoin blockchain dangerous ?, and frankly the answer is shallow unlike answer on Quora or stackexchange.

Hmm yeah now that I'm taking a look at musing again, the first 2 questions I saw about cryptocurrency - apart from maybe the first answer - the responses are significantly lower in quality when compared to Quora. Not just shallow, typos jumping out at you, and generally just very unhelpful responses. There's a regular too... he answers by listing the Top 10 on CMC and his is the top 5 most voted answers. That type of impression kills the site's reputation. Worse, he's not the only one doing it and those similar lists get voted.

The thing is, it could turn into something great, but like I mentioned in my last post on this thread, there are some really glaring issues that need fixing first.
I'm hoping for them to come out with an update that basically prevents people from earning for writing low-quality replies.

I've brought this up in a few posts of mine on Steemit, but Musing did not respond to them yet.
It's got potential, but they need to work on their presentation first.

Might have been a little bit too positive about it in my previous posts in this thread.

Also @buwaytress I share your concerns about Steemit itself.
As long as bots run the platform, it's basically useless as a social media website.

My hope is that Steem Inc will slowly start selling all of their shares in the platform and let the community take over.
The mismanagement of the platform is hugely their fault IMO and once new Steem interfaces start popping up, the bots will no longer be an issue.

There are already people working on building dapps that completely erradicate any posts on which bots have been used.
Which is a step in the right direction.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

For blockchain-based Q&A platform, it's great (at least for general/common question).

However i prefer choose Quora, Stackexchange or BTT for technical-oriented question. I've searched for few question such as What is the state of Bitcoin's lightning network right now? & Is the growing size of Bitcoin blockchain dangerous ?, and frankly the answer is shallow unlike answer on Quora or stackexchange.

Hmm yeah now that I'm taking a look at musing again, the first 2 questions I saw about cryptocurrency - apart from maybe the first answer - the responses are significantly lower in quality when compared to Quora. Not just shallow, typos jumping out at you, and generally just very unhelpful responses. There's a regular too... he answers by listing the Top 10 on CMC and his is the top 5 most voted answers. That type of impression kills the site's reputation. Worse, he's not the only one doing it and those similar lists get voted.

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I'll give this some time to look over but my initial feelings about anything Steemit is one of aversion. I'm aware much has been done to improve it and there's been several tweaks done over the 18 months or so since I stopped using but still seems reasonably easy to game.

Suppose this is one area improved AI might help with detecting abuse and filtering meaningless responses but that's how it is with a weighting system. Only need to take a look at quora to see how different it works without that.

Agree answers should remain on Musing and not republished on personal blog, or if allowed, should be marked as resteem or would that not affect?

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That's actually an example of a very bad design error. That 94 dollar answer was NOT upvoted by the Musings account.
The poster chose to publish that answer on his Steem blog and then artificially upvoted it with bid bots.

That's definitely an issue that needs to be addressed and I'll speak with the dev about that.

IMO, people should not be able to publish answers on their personal blog, so they cannot use bid bots to upvote it.
It's actually more of a flaw with Steem itself, rather than Musing.

Quote from: leowonderful on December 14, 2018, 06:43:53 PM

Seems a bit odd to me that there's seemingly no place where you can ask questions (like a FAQ) on the site or anything besides answers and notifications to me. Seems like this site was designed with simplicity in mind, but I'm also curious as to how this site makes payments and how much posters can make- how much does a poster make per upvote that he/she gets, and how is this calculated? Doesn't seem terribly clear to me considering I see posts with 19 upvotes making less than a post with 17 upvotes, etc.

They make payments because they have a ton of Steem Power delegated to them from Steemit Inc.
Since Steem is DPOS, the size of your upvotes is determined by the amount of Steem Power you have.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on December 14, 2018, 10:46:20 AM

The gibberish answers are definitely not upvoted, I've noticed that. They're actually pretty good at curating content, so good answers and questions will appear on top!

>definitely
> Roll Eyes

I still stand by my stance that its a mix of hit and miss. I spent 3 mins on the site and I already find one. The question is as simple as:

Quote from: https://musing.io/q/hamg96/p36agcu85

How do I get an actual bitcoin wallet and then how can I buy bitcoin with cash and then how can I buy some steems ?

As you can see the guy has a ton of spelling errors, ideas are all over the place and seems to be only suggesting the popular services. Funny thing is, his post got 244 upvotes which is apparently worth $94.

I didn't find the answer I want for the question but the other two after him did it better.

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Quote from: Patatas on December 14, 2018, 06:37:45 PM

Thanks for sharing the service with us. I hope you're not their unofficial digital marketing assistant. Grin

Jokes apart. I never understood how the company makes money this way? Who likes to invest in poorly delivered answers or suggestions? I'm pretty sure once the website becomes a bit more famous your weekly $30 reward will come down to $3.

Its always been part of marketing which getting out some good pays when they arent still popular but when people finds out this place for monetizing their post/answers then expect there would be sudden decline of reward which isnt really surprising.The good thing here is that there is an another option for us not only to earn money but also to learn up new things came from another community.

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Seems a bit odd to me that there's seemingly no place where you can ask questions (like a FAQ) on the site or anything besides answers and notifications to me. Seems like this site was designed with simplicity in mind, but I'm also curious as to how this site makes payments and how much posters can make- how much does a poster make per upvote that he/she gets, and how is this calculated? Doesn't seem terribly clear to me considering I see posts with 19 upvotes making less than a post with 17 upvotes, etc.

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Thanks for sharing the service with us. I hope you're not their unofficial digital marketing assistant. Grin

Jokes apart. I never understood how the company makes money this way? Who likes to invest in poorly delivered answers or suggestions? I'm pretty sure once the website becomes a bit more famous your weekly $30 reward will come down to $3.

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on December 14, 2018, 10:46:33 AM

Also, the site's layout/design looks awful to me when compared to stackexchange (Or even Steemit), it looks like they really focused on mobile users or something.. I guess that might just be me though.

it just looks a bit empty to me, a little bit unfinished. But it's working though and there's some quality content on there as well, I'll give an example of a question I've asked there:

This is the top answer I've gotten:

I mean the guy clearly put a lot of effort into that and got rewarded accordingly. System working as intended, I'd think?

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Quote from: Potato Chips on December 14, 2018, 09:36:32 AM

While the revenue could bring more ppl (and potentially good posters too), it could also disrupt the credibility of the questions and answers made mainly because it is more used to earn money rather than its actual use, pretty sure you would see not-so-good answers garnering tons of upvotes Undecided

Exactly this. I'm currently looking at the CryptoCurrency section, and the quality of most questions is awful, and it really looks to me like these are only asked to generate some potential upvotes = money, instead of them being asked out of sheer interest..

For real technical discussion/questions, this site simply isn't going to be used when alternatives such as SE/the BTT subboard are available. (Or unless Musing has a really good moderation team that removes all the gibberish comments made.)

Also, the site's layout/design looks awful to me when compared to stackexchange (Or even Steemit), it looks like they really focused on mobile users or something.. I guess that might just be me though.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on December 14, 2018, 09:36:32 AM

oohhh first time hearing this! There isn't much info about the system like a FAQ or something but I do think it's be a mix of hit and miss since money is involved.

While the revenue could bring more ppl (and potentially good posters too), it could also disrupt the credibility of the questions and answers made mainly because it is more used to earn money rather than its actual use, pretty sure you would see not-so-good answers garnering tons of upvotes Undecided

Nevertheless, Voicing out opinions on topics you're interested in, is still a good past time. And hey, you could also save a reader when the ppl with most upvotes have gibberish answers.

Just a question tho, Is there a limit in the number of answers submitted per question? 'cause its very possible that it could reach 40+

No, any questions can have an unlimited number of answers, but they do seem to have a specific window in which earnings from the @musing account are given.
The biggest upvotes come from the @musing account, I've seen single answers get around $10 in upvotes in rare occasions.

The gibberish answers are definitely not upvoted, I've noticed that. They're actually pretty good at curating content, so good answers and questions will appear on top!

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oohhh first time hearing this! There isn't much info about the system like a FAQ or something but I do think it's be a mix of hit and miss since money is involved.

While the revenue could bring more ppl (and potentially good posters too), it could also disrupt the credibility of the questions and answers made mainly because it is more used to earn money rather than its actual use, pretty sure you would see not-so-good answers garnering tons of upvotes Undecided

Nevertheless, Voicing out opinions on topics you're interested in, is still a good past time. And hey, you could also save a reader when the ppl with most upvotes have gibberish answers.

Just a question tho, Is there a limit in the number of answers submitted per question? 'cause its very possible that it could reach 40+

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Limited in number. Limitless in potential.

The site seems new to me but same as Steemit, groups of some individual will take advantage of this paid system since the rate is based on upvotes if I'm not mistaken.

And $30 per week as you said 30 minutes a day which you probably handle it for 210 minutes or 3.5 hours a week which is not bad.

Btw I just connect my steemit account just now. Cheesy

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Musing.io is basically a website where you can ask and answer questions, just like Quora.
Except, it's on the Steem blockchain and you basically earn money for writing out decent answers and questions.

I think I'm making around $30 per week, just by spending like 30 minutes a day on there.
Not that much, but it's a pretty fun community.

Is anyone else active there?

https://musing.io/

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