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What an anti-semitic drawing. They have big noses.
Topic: Apparently this London mural is anti-Semitic. (Read 7355 times)
Whoever made it is a great artist and this is a beautiful piece of art. I don't see any problem with it, it's a view of the artist and would be a shame to destroy it. I actually don't think it's anti-semitic. It's not saying all Jews are bad, only that a few big nosed fat bastards are.
Lol sure, I'll agree to that. Nothing in that image says "Fuck Jews", it's just an odd coincidence bankers happen to be Jews. If I painted a picture of Abraham Lincoln as a white man, am I being racist? Or is Abraham Lincoln not white, and would the painting not be accurate? There's simply no other way to do it.
Whoever made it is a great artist and this is a beautiful piece of art. I don't see any problem with it, it's a view of the artist and would be a shame to destroy it. I actually don't think it's anti-semitic. It's not saying all Jews are bad, only that a few big nosed fat bastards are.
This is precisely how these types of organizations totally de-legitimize themselves in the eyes of the world.
The boy that cried wolf, and insisted on being the perpetual victim.
The boy that cried wolf, and insisted on being the perpetual victim.
It's because of the eye; EDIT: Freemasonry symbol, which "happens" to be on a lot of things
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
The Freemasonry symbol is the Compass and Square, not the eye on top of pyramid.
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Today, the Eye of Providence is usually associated with Freemasonry. The Eye first appeared as part of the standard iconography of the Freemasons in 1797, with the publication of Thomas Smith Webb's Freemasons Monitor. Here, it represents the all-seeing eye of God and is a reminder that a Mason's thoughts and deeds are always observed by God (who is referred to in Masonry as the Great Architect of the Universe). Typically, the Masonic Eye of Providence has a semi-circular glory below the eye. Sometimes the Eye is enclosed by a triangle.
¿Jewish facial characteristics? You can talk about asians, africans, european, americans, but consider a religion as a base of "race" is ridiculous. Or what, isn't there no black jews?
And, even when I don't like it, the guy who make the mural has talent.
And, even when I don't like it, the guy who make the mural has talent.
I agree that considering religion or culture as a base of race is ridiculous. Unfortunately you see this all the time in the media were Muslims are referred as a race or ethnicity. The problem with the word "Jew" stems from the fact it refers to both Judaism and a semitic race (or khazars according to some).
Enlighten me, unless you are doing ad hominem.
And tell us at least one jew characteristic you see on the mural, because I can't see what you see.
And tell us at least one jew characteristic you see on the mural, because I can't see what you see.
The nose for one, they are also drawn similar to some nazi propaganda (not the extreme ones).
It's because of the eye; EDIT: Freemasonry symbol, which "happens" to be on a lot of things
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
The Freemasonry symbol is the Compass and Square, not the eye on top of pyramid.
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The features of most of them seem quite clearly to be caricaturized stereotypical Jewish.
Like what? We must have different stereotypes of jews here in the U.S., all I see is a bunch of old fucks playing monopoly.
Not saying that it wasn't anti-semitic, or that it was, just saying I don't see the stereotype there.
Also, far right is Gandhi and far left is God.
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The features of most of them seem quite clearly to be caricaturized stereotypical Jewish.
Like what? We must have different stereotypes of jews here in the U.S., all I see is a bunch of old fucks playing monopoly.
Not saying that it wasn't anti-semitic, or that it was, just saying I don't see the stereotype there.
Also, far right is Gandhi and far left is God.
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The features of most of them seem quite clearly to be caricaturized stereotypical Jewish.
Like what? We must have different stereotypes of jews here in the U.S., all I see is a bunch of old fucks playing monopoly.
Not saying that it wasn't anti-semitic, or that it was, just saying I don't see the stereotype there.
yeah, a depiction of capitalism
I see a picture against the exploitation of the 3rd world by the 1st world,nothing else.
but how come then the Palestinians consider jews to be a force of evil? they seem to be quite accurate.
There are more people like this poster than a lot of people think. Richy_T was correct, antisemitism is still extremely prevalent among the far-right in the US and Europe.
And of course you give the far-left a pass on their anti-semitism.
Public school much?
Right wing? The right wing likes Zionism. Even more than they hate Muslims!
They've completely linked Jesus and Israel. I call their conflation of idolatry 'Jesusrael.'
They love the idea that the existence of a state called Israel proooves the Bible is true and that Jesus is coming back (real soon, any minute now).
You should to to Democrat Underground or Daily Kos and drop in to a George Soros thread if you want to see crazy anti-semitism run amok.
They've completely linked Jesus and Israel. I call their conflation of idolatry 'Jesusrael.'
They love the idea that the existence of a state called Israel proooves the Bible is true and that Jesus is coming back (real soon, any minute now).
You should to to Democrat Underground or Daily Kos and drop in to a George Soros thread if you want to see crazy anti-semitism run amok.
Please learn about the history of antisemitism before you make yourself look even more ignorant.
Enlighten me, unless you are doing ad hominem.
And tell us at least one jew characteristic you see on the mural, because I can't see what you see.
a great piece of modern art!
Hewbrew and Khazar Jews.
The mural depicts Khazar.
The mural depicts Khazar.
The arabs don't like jews either. probably they have a reason for that.
¿Jewish facial characteristics? You can talk about asians, africans, european, americans, but consider a religion as a base of "race" is ridiculous. Or what, isn't there no black jews?
And, even when I don't like it, the guy who make the mural has talent.
And, even when I don't like it, the guy who make the mural has talent.
Please learn about the history of antisemitism before you make yourself look even more ignorant.
If you want to know who rules over you.....
Goldman Sachs....
Ben Shalom Bernanke....
Goldman Sachs....
Ben Shalom Bernanke....
There are more people like this poster than a lot of people think. Richy_T was correct, antisemitism is still extremely prevalent among the far-right in the US and Europe.
¿Jewish facial characteristics? You can talk about asians, africans, european, americans, but consider a religion as a base of "race" is ridiculous. Or what, isn't there no black jews?
And, even when I don't like it, the guy who make the mural has talent.
And, even when I don't like it, the guy who make the mural has talent.
can't see that.
4th Law of Robotics.
A robot must not draw pictures of human being(s) except where such action would conflict with the First or Second Law of Robotics.
A robot must not draw pictures of human being(s) except where such action would conflict with the First or Second Law of Robotics.
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Clearly it's satirical in some symbolic way. Isn't satire protected by law any more?
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Either way, its free speech on trial by fire at its best.
Actually in US, reffering to the Eye, might be against the law. Ok, this is in London, but still:Quote
Title 18 of the U.S. Code, as revised in January 1971, prohibits use of the likeness of the Great Seal or any facsimile in “any advertisement, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production” for the
purpose of conveying a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the U.S. Government under threat of a fine of not more than $250 or imprisonment of not more than 6 months, or both.
purpose of conveying a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the U.S. Government under threat of a fine of not more than $250 or imprisonment of not more than 6 months, or both.
It's because of the eye; EDIT: Freemasonry symbol, which "happens" to be on a lot of things
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
Those guys around the table are clearly European.
Also the guys under the table look like they could be central african.
Also Milton Bradley is implied.
So what? Nice mural, thanks for sharing.
Also the guys under the table look like they could be central african.
Also Milton Bradley is implied.
So what? Nice mural, thanks for sharing.
... I'd say but the UK has all kinds of anti-hate speech and other thought crimes on the books now.
We certainly do - and they keep getting added to the statute book.However, I'm delighted to share with you folks that one of these is in the process of being struck following a campaign protesting about a clause from a 1984 statute that made it a crime to say anything that, in the opinion of the arresting officer, another could find insulting! I am the proud owner of a 'Feel free to insult me' campaign hoodie. Every now and again, against all the odds, law makers see sense! In this case it was the House of Lords, the undemocratic house in the UK. It's ironic how frequently the democratic house tries to bring in liberty-taking laws which are rejected by the Lords who appear to have a better understanding of the importance of liberty than elected MPs!
Another reason I love the way the whole 'Reform Section 5' campaing happened was that the Secularists and the Christians actually worked together and appeared publicly side by side arguing for this. Now that this is gone, next time they appear on opposite sides of an argument they can get back to insulting each other without risk of arrest
Hmm. Maybe I am part of the conspiracy. I wouldn't put it past me, I'm sure I'm hiding something...
Ah-ha! I knew it. Which one of the old guys in the mural is you?
I'm the one with the giant gherkin
It looks like a bunch of old men not far from the nursing home.
Giant Illuminati symbol
"OMG Jewish facial characteristics ANTI-SEMITISM"
Still a giant Illuminati symbol...
Yes, it's technically the "Eye of Providence" or some such, but everyone uses it for weird Illuminati conspiracy theories or just for "evil US politics" 'cause it's on some Dollar bill.
"OMG Jewish facial characteristics ANTI-SEMITISM"
Still a giant Illuminati symbol...
Yes, it's technically the "Eye of Providence" or some such, but everyone uses it for weird Illuminati conspiracy theories or just for "evil US politics" 'cause it's on some Dollar bill.
Hmm. Maybe I am part of the conspiracy. I wouldn't put it past me, I'm sure I'm hiding something...
Ah-ha! I knew it. Which one of the old guys in the mural is you?
I don't really care much either way but anyone claiming there isn't anti-semitism hasn't been keeping up with their crazy, right-wing, zionist conspiracy theories.
Ah, I didn't say there weren't crazy, left-wing, zionist conspiracy theories as well 
And you didn't say there weren't sane zionist conspiracy theories. But the glaring omission implies they exist "as well," by your logic.
Hmm. Maybe I am part of the conspiracy. I wouldn't put it past me, I'm sure I'm hiding something...
I don't really care much either way but anyone claiming there isn't anti-semitism hasn't been keeping up with their crazy, right-wing, zionist conspiracy theories.
Ah, I didn't say there weren't crazy, left-wing, zionist conspiracy theories as well And you didn't say there weren't sane zionist conspiracy theories. But the glaring omission implies they exist "as well," by your logic.
I don't really care much either way but anyone claiming there isn't anti-semitism hasn't been keeping up with their crazy, right-wing, zionist conspiracy theories.
Right wing? The right wing likes Zionism. Even more than they hate Muslims!
They've completely linked Jesus and Israel. I call their conflation of idolatry 'Jesusrael.'
They love the idea that the existence of a state called Israel proooves the Bible is true and that Jesus is coming back (real soon, any minute now).
You should to to Democrat Underground or Daily Kos and drop in to a George Soros thread if you want to see crazy anti-semitism run amok.
Ah, I didn't say there weren't crazy, left-wing, zionist conspiracy theories as well
I don't really care much either way but anyone claiming there isn't anti-semitism hasn't been keeping up with their crazy, right-wing, zionist conspiracy theories.
Right wing? The right wing likes Zionism. Even more than they hate Muslims!
They've completely linked Jesus and Israel. I call their conflation of idolatry 'Jesusrael.'
They love the idea that the existence of a state called Israel proooves the Bible is true and that Jesus is coming back (real soon, any minute now).
You should to to Democrat Underground or Daily Kos and drop in to a George Soros thread if you want to see crazy anti-semitism run amok.
I don't really care much either way but anyone claiming there isn't anti-semitism hasn't been keeping up with their crazy, right-wing, zionist conspiracy theories.
ye'd say anti jewish aswell. Judging by the big noses it's focusing on that that's a generalization. He still might be right of jewish bankers being behind fiscal atrocities like american government behind war crimes but at least pin point the characters.
What a nice, lovely mural.
None of the old banksters are wearing hats.
I'm no rabbi, but don't Jews have to wear head coverings?
Bernie Madoff always did.
Of course, merely arguing against the charge is airtight proof that you are guilty, according to The Rules:
None of the old banksters are wearing hats.
I'm no rabbi, but don't Jews have to wear head coverings?
Bernie Madoff always did.
Of course, merely arguing against the charge is airtight proof that you are guilty, according to The Rules:
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It’s pointless to ask what “anti-Semitic” means. It means trouble. It’s an attack signal. The practical function of the word is not to define or distinguish things, but to conflate them indiscriminately — to equate the soberest criticism of Israel or Jewish power with the murderous hatred of Jews. And it works. Oh, how it works.
When Joe McCarthy accused people of being Communists, the charge was relatively precise. You knew what he meant. The accusation could be falsified. In fact the burden of proof was on the accuser: when McCarthy couldn’t make his loose charges stick, he was ruined. (Of course, McCarthy was hated less for his “loose” charges than for his accurate ones. His real offense was stigmatizing the Left.)
The opposite applies to charges of “anti-Semitism.” The word has no precise definition. An “anti-Semite” may or may not hate Jews. But he is certainly hated by Jews. There is no penalty for making the charge loosely; the accused has no way of falsifying the charge, since it isn’t defined.
A famous example. When Abe Rosenthal accused Pat Buchanan of “anti-Semitism,” everyone on both sides understood the ground rules. There was a chance that Buchanan would be ruined, even if the charge was baseless. And there was no chance that Rosenthal would be ruined — even if the charge was baseless.
Such are the rules. I violate them, in a way, even by spelling them out.
“Anti- Semitism” is therefore less a charge than a curse, an imprecation that must be uttered formulaically. Being a “bogus predicate,” to use Gilbert Ryle’s phrase, it has no real content, no functional equivalent in plain nouns and verbs. Its power comes from the knowledge of its potential targets, the gentiles, that powerful people are willing to back it up with material penalties.
http://www.sobran.com/establishment.shtml
When Joe McCarthy accused people of being Communists, the charge was relatively precise. You knew what he meant. The accusation could be falsified. In fact the burden of proof was on the accuser: when McCarthy couldn’t make his loose charges stick, he was ruined. (Of course, McCarthy was hated less for his “loose” charges than for his accurate ones. His real offense was stigmatizing the Left.)
The opposite applies to charges of “anti-Semitism.” The word has no precise definition. An “anti-Semite” may or may not hate Jews. But he is certainly hated by Jews. There is no penalty for making the charge loosely; the accused has no way of falsifying the charge, since it isn’t defined.
A famous example. When Abe Rosenthal accused Pat Buchanan of “anti-Semitism,” everyone on both sides understood the ground rules. There was a chance that Buchanan would be ruined, even if the charge was baseless. And there was no chance that Rosenthal would be ruined — even if the charge was baseless.
Such are the rules. I violate them, in a way, even by spelling them out.
“Anti- Semitism” is therefore less a charge than a curse, an imprecation that must be uttered formulaically. Being a “bogus predicate,” to use Gilbert Ryle’s phrase, it has no real content, no functional equivalent in plain nouns and verbs. Its power comes from the knowledge of its potential targets, the gentiles, that powerful people are willing to back it up with material penalties.
http://www.sobran.com/establishment.shtml
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The features of most of them seem quite clearly to be caricaturized stereotypical Jewish.
Like what? We must have different stereotypes of jews here in the U.S., all I see is a bunch of old fucks playing monopoly.
Not saying that it wasn't anti-semitic, or that it was, just saying I don't see the stereotype there.
Either way, its free speech on trial by fire at its best.
This is just another case of overly sensitive people overreacting.
On balance, I'd say it probably is (anti-semitic). The features of most of them seem quite clearly to be caricaturized stereotypical Jewish.
As to the reaction of covering it up? Down to the property owner, I'd say but the UK has all kinds of anti-hate speech and other thought crimes on the books now.
As to the reaction of covering it up? Down to the property owner, I'd say but the UK has all kinds of anti-hate speech and other thought crimes on the books now.
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