Topic: Appeal Mia_houston (Read 662 times)

I still feel very lost and hope that the moderators will return to recover my account, because in this case I hope that the moderators will reconsider my defense.

Yea, they are resolved case by case and the few lucky ones to be unbanned after commiting plagiarism presented their case as;
1. Newbie Mistakes
2. Not intended to steal or make money out of it.
3. Must have contributed obviously to the growth of the forum.

In the case of ban evasion, if the offenders present a strong case based on the aforelisted items, they could get chances of being unbanned as well.

Good to know, sorry I didn't follow up the thread post by post.

If the option is signature ban or something more lenient, Op should gladly accept then.

As far as I know, global moderators do not practice this. The only thing in the Russian-language section of the forum I have a topic where I post information about banned accounts with an indication of the reason for the ban. But in that list are only Russian-speaking accounts.


Well, she has already been offered an option in this thread:

Ban evasion is still ban evasion, they must bear the consequences. The rules don't say that if you make a good contribution to the forum but you make ban evasion, you can be forgiven as is the case in the case of a ban on plagiarism. I've never seen anyone with an ban evasion get unbaned, but I've seen forum contributors forgiven after being banned for plagiarism. These are resolved case by case, but obviously not all of them.

...is known to the one who banned and I think also an email should be sent to the banned account providing detailed reasons the account was banned.  Though I don't know how it works, but I think there should be a way to tell a user the particular reason the account was banned. I am concerned about this because I have seen someone appealing for banned account but doesn't know actually the reason the account was banned. Maybe the person was accused of plagiarism and later on accusation of another offence.

Meanwhile, I believe that the reason that would make a good hero account like that of Op to be banned should be strong and convincing. Besides, if I am a judge, I can pardon a mistake make 4years ago and then place the account on probation, which will then get banned if there is a slight sign of further violation.

That means that at the time the report was reviewed by the global moderator, the post had not yet been deleted. I don't remember exactly, but when I reviewed this post for the first time, it seemed to be on the forum. Or the reason for the ban was another rule violation. In any case, the true reason for the ban is known only to the one who banned mia_houston.

I don't think so. By that logic, anyone could request an unban after simply deleting their old posts. Aside from that, posts on the forum are not actually deleted, but only hidden from the public. Moderators can probably still see them in the trash. Those posts are moved from the active database to the backup only after a year, as far as I know.

Only global moderators can decide that, I never know.

If global moderators don't find a reason why mia_houston should be ban because ban evasion, then I really don't expect them to. Existing evidence shows that he worth it for ban evasion, but I don't really know what evidence got mia_houston banned other than the evidence reported by @rhomelmabini and his habit of spamming.

I want to ask about this case, Xal0lex said:

So since some of the evidence in this report post has been deleted by the user in question (no longer on the forum) then is there any chance for mia_houston to be unbanned?

I know that there is solid evidence in the spreadsheet of mia_houston's participation using the same twitter as the previously banned rindo, but isn't that external evidence that exists outside the forum considering the authentication post no longer exists?

This question is not a defense for mia_houston, but I'd like to understand some basic rules about how a user is considered ban evasion. Thanks.

LOL, this is a completely different matter. But do you really want me to do something a little more cruel to the 16 accounts that are most likely your friends?

Let me tell you, I have valid proof to tag all those accounts even if I wanted to do it now. One of them has been banned, so maybe 15 other accounts should get the same due to ban evasion. So if you want to drag them here again, then brace yourself and your friends too. I removed the red tag for one reason, but that doesn't mean I can't tag it again next time based on all the available evidence. It's not a threat, but when I have enough time, I'll come back to them.

The evidence you post is far more powerful than bullshit from your story.

Oh my God, what the hell are you talking about? Where in my words have you found a manifestation of misogyny? All I said was that I've hardly ever met a woman who knows soccer that well. That's all I said. And you just jumped all over me... With views like yours, I don't see the point in continuing the conversation.

Didn't I say that he has used my indodax wallet?
after I found out he was using the wallet then I gave the wallet completely to him, did I ever say he didn't have an ID card or other wallet, try to understand what I said well?
when he used the my wallet off course  I say that in the end I gave it to him because if I use it again of course the problem will be more complicated from now.

Of course you don't have to. It's your choice.


I don't see the relevance of that in this case. I presume you didn't appeal because you had other accounts on the forum, which has now been proven.


That's a lie. There is no record of changing the email address or password on that account in the Security Log: https://bpip.org/Profile?p=rindo
At the very least make sure there is some valid evidence to back up your bullshit story. Besides, that thread only proves that you cheated in the MOVEMENT bounty campaign with a fake Portuguese translation of their ANN. There is no evidence to support that the rindo account was hacked.


You expect us to believe that he couldn't create an account at the indodax exchange because he didn't have an ID card, so he used your account? How is that possible? Especially considering that he was supposedly your "mentor" who introduced you to the world of Bitcoin. As far as I know, a valid ID card is a legal requirement in Indonesia upon reaching the age of 17.


Although you previously claimed, I quote: "I don't know why Rindo was able to use my address and to be honest at that time I was very upset...", now you say you handed him the wallet? Which one is true?


So this was your first account? Of how many?  

I'm not a journalist, but since I was little I lived in a sports environment, especially football, but wait.., I hope you won't try to say that women are forbidden to know more things, especially sports or football than men, I don't know where you live but I think that in today modern era, sport or football is no longer owned by men but it is already a plural sport that even women are no less powerful than men, when a woman can be an athlete, a politician and even a president, then why when women know more about the world of football actually doubt you?


Do I have to keep repeating every statement I make to you?
As an account investigator of course you know how cheating can happen, can you tell me the real reason rindo was banned from the forum, and why didn't he appeal ?
the offense he committed at that time was not due to the use of the my old wallet but another mistake which I also don't know the reason for, but, after he retired because he had got a job as a teacher, I once contacted him and he say told me if he no longer had control of the account and I don't know why but what is certain is that the account has been controlled by someone else since December 2017, as seen in this archive https://archive.is/ga0y5

You can ask members from Indonesia here, when in 2015 in Indonesia cryptocurrencies were not this big and if I'm not mistaken, Indonesia only had one truly trusted exchange at that time that supported bitcoin/IDR exchanges, namely bitcoin.co. id which has now changed its name to indodax, each indodax registration can only use one id, namely an ID card, sim, or passport, whereas at that time we did not have a sim or passport to register the indodax account, so when he used the wallet it made me very angry but finally I no longer use the wallet and prefer to make a wallet from several gambling sites, you can ask @black_star (because he was the first to investigate the use of the wallet), did he find my use of the wallet again after it was used by someone else or he finds a transaction link between the my old wallet and my new wallet that was used afterwards?
Because it was due to the limitations of the wallet registration method and also the exchange at that time in my country so I handed the wallet to him and if I'm not mistaken I was still a Full member rank at that time, because it time was easy to increase the rank of course I didn't think too much and  I ever thought about not continuing to build a mia_houston account, but because this is my first account, of course it's a shame to throw it away, but I really don't think the problem will be as complicated as it is now.


I really respect you for the knowledge you have, and I hope you can be fair to anyone regardless of whether you like the person or not, because you are now a DT and as a DT you have to be fair and not just drown someone with mistakes  with not have absolutely solid evidence as you did some time ago, so to give rise to the notion that you are abusing trust.
I don't care about the number of accusations, or even ridicule from other people as long as they can't provide stronger evidence against me because it's based on the presumption of innocence and I hope the moderators can act fairly and also wisely in making decisions taking into account every accuracy evidence and defense that I do, because after all the moderator is someone we respect here and if I'm guilty of course I won't appeal because many say my chances are small, because actually there are a lot of people who might not appeal just because they have a chance small, but I don't want to be a desperate person because in any case, it's certainly not justified for someone to get a sentence without stronger evidence.

I also hope that the moderators will be very wise in making decisions based on the principle of justice and also stick to the principle of the presumption of innocence in deciding whether someone is guilty or not.
I also hope that the members here don't have to immediately convict someone without providing strong enough evidence to declare him guilty, or even directly judge the person based on arguments even without solid evidence just to appear active in the forum and also based on other  because people reports that indeed all this time he had a routine to report other people and we all immediately believed him because he did have the power over the trust given by the forum to him.
I hope that we are all wise in seeing every perspective that exists because indeed we are human beings who do not escape from forget and mistakes by accident.

I hope any answers and questions that users in this thread to ask mia_houston don't influence the moderator's decision to ban any users especially mia_houston. Moderators should nevertheless defend their interpretations wisely based on the evidence reported, and for everyone here may know that criticism, ridicule, and anything else criticizing mia_houston for her wrongdoing really can't change the moderator's decision to increase the duration of the ban, reduce it or keep it forever. So this really doesn't improve anything, and I think it's a moderator's area though we can share some opinions.

I chose to remain silent and see how he resolved it because it would be wise to let him explain the problem even though we don't really believe it. Can't believe it's each other's perspective, but I don't think we need to express it.

So you "accidentally" used his twitter and he "accidentally" used your BTC address? Five times? That's a lot of accidents! As they say, "Once is chance, twice is coincidence..." How many times is a pattern?
And, we don't need any stronger evidence because, apparently, this was enough for the moderators to ban your account.


We have heard such excuses so many times before. No one believes in them anymore, so it's not just him.

mia_houston, are you a sports journalist? Or did you translate your posts on sports from somewhere on the Internet? Just for a woman to know so much about soccer is amazing I've met very few women in my life who know soccer so well. And to make comments like that... That's extraordinary. Admit it, did you write your own posts or did you plagiarize them somewhere? Your account has been banned anyway and is unlikely to be unbanned. So your confession won't change anything. Moreover, I found a little plagiarism from you anyway

I never hide my mistakes, if I want to hide my mistakes of course I will ask rindo to deactivate the twitter or change the username, but do you see the that twitter is gone, no isn't it??
After the mistakes, rindo and I no longer use the twitter and you can see if the twitter is no longer used. mistakes are mistakes but do they deserve to be faced with severe punishment or banned because accidentally?
Unless you find stronger evidence than just the accidental use of twitter just once. I will not argue and accept punishment if I am indeed involved with fraud but of course with stronger evidence such as transactions or other things called fraud, but this is just an accident, have you never made a mistake without intention in your life?
It's up to you to think, you believe it or not but that's the truth, I also won't force you to believe it, because from some of your posts, I see if you are not someone who has faith in other people even though they give the real explanation.

Are you blame to ninjastic.space?
Actually your purpose to delete your post are to hide your mistake, not to make people don't get it wrong. If you're genuine user who did wrong and never cheat, why you're not creating a thread on Reputation section and tell if you're using your friend twitter account by mistake?

I don't believe any excuse when someone got exposed since it's just a fake stories, period.

Nah, all rules are still exist and everyone can get same a punishment as long as they're broke it. It doesn't matter when your mistake happen.

I have never cheated in any campaign, I don't know why Rindo was able to use my address and to be honest at that time I was very upset because it was my old Indodax (Bitcoin.co.id) wallet when I first got to know cryptocurency, to be honest, he's someone who first introduced me to crypto and this forum and it can be said that the two of us are indeed friends, but unfortunately now he has retired and is more focused on real work after he became a teacher, and when I tried to apply for a campaign frankly I doesn't have twitter at all and uses rindo twitter without his knowledge when we were sitting together, but when he found out I was using that twitter he got angry and said for not  use it anymore and that's why if you trace I use of twiterr  only once, if indeed it is my twitter instead, of course you will find use only more than once?
Previously I didn't really understand the forum rules that were so strict and after all the rules I understood I never did it again, I am very aware that this mistake will be a reference for other people to judge me, but actually I have deleted it so that people don't get it wrong understand my ignorance previously and also before someone exposed it but unfortunately ninjastic kept it for a long time, besides I think all the accusations that were leveled against me are not valid evidence anymore after the incident around 2015 and 2016 and that's why I ventured to appeal

I think she wants us to reconsider the evidence linking her and the "rindo" account. So she did not appeal to the ban of the rindo account, but to the allegation of her ban evading.
But I agree that she should explain her case better and shed light on the evidence that ties the two accounts together.

If it is a ban evasion from rindo account, you should start with the account you was banned, not with Mia_houston. If the rindo account was not be given a second chance, Mia_houston will still be banned.

If you make a ban appeal, you should provide evidence of your contribution, to show good net effects for unban. You did not include evidence in this thread.

Autoban for rindo account means chance for it is extremely low but autoban does not mean automatically banned by bot.

But it still does help to show that the accounts are linked. If it's one case of both accounts publishing the same address, maybe it could just be considered a coincidence or a POA copy-paste mistake gone wrong but if there are many instances then it strengthens the linkage between the accounts.

I had reported it last December but after I got your explanation then I forgot about the case and it was lucky enough for mia_houston. But this time, the rhomelmabini got a good catch, very clear evidence that they were ban evasion. Rindo posted a Twitter profile in 2015 ^{[she/ he was banned]} and was then followed by mia_houston in 2016. If in Deember mia_houston was acquitted, then this time it seems not.

However you have violated the rules on evasion of ban, and as a old user you should know how these rules are enforced. IMO, your odds are not good, this appeal is probably pointless.

Honestly, I didn't expect this from you. Well, you should know about it In your example, mia_houston published the address much earlier than rindo did. That's why your example doesn't fit. If it were the other way around, then we could talk about ban evasion.

There should be an email address in the ban message you received on your main account.
If you have any proof as to why you are not related to the account linked to Mia_houston. Although, with the evidence provided, there's very little chance of the account getting unbanned.

Also:

This was report about your ban evasion. Perhaps you should start by explaining why the involved accounts used the same Twitter profile links and username. I don't think it was just a mistake

I looked on your main account, there's no topic created by you and you didn't contributed anything except creating a common replies on gambling section. I don't think any moderators will accept your appeal to consider temporary banned on your account.

Edit:
Before that, someone already report him but one of the moderator didn't ban him because mia_houston use the address earlier than rindo, but in this case it's different where rindo use the telegram before mia_houston.

I'm Mia_houston. I want to an appeal for this account because today my account was banned due to allegations of ban evasion related to the rindo account. Please reconsider the evidence reported.

Link profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/miahouston-814560