Apple Vision Pro and its Implication in Online Gambling

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Quote from: bittraffic on June 11, 2023, 12:01:02 PM

It would be accessible for all. Particularly those who can afford. They didn't mention about multiplayer with this spatial computing though and I could always hear is the 3D.
While there are sure good stuff in this product, it also gonna come with disadvantages like the ads that will be shown to you are also gonna be in 3D. Cheesy

I just watch a review video about Apple Vision Pro which is uploaded just today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGNg5Z_Okc
He is from GenZ and seem to have portrayed how isolated the next generation will be if this is adopted widely. But I believe there is no stopping from this metaverse though.

LOL, I remember there was a Futurama episode in which they used a device similar to VR equipment and the ads were incredibly aggressive, so it seems we are going to get to see that future as well, still I really hope that equipment is sold with some kind of warning system that alerts its user that they have been using those glasses for too long, as if smartphone addiction is extremely common right now I do not want to imagine how bad things will get if the experience of VR equipment is as immersive as a I think it could be.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on June 10, 2023, 05:26:17 PM

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For sure, it's an innovative product that can generate a whole series of circumstances/use cases in many industries (entertainment and otherwise) obviously including gambling applications.
personal opinion Roll Eyes

, it will take time (at least a few years) before we see a realistic impact of this technology...

If you've seen the WWDC feature of this joke of a product, you'd realize that all your hopes were for nothing. Imagine using AR goggles not for entertainment, but for work and productivity, that's just downright Bladerunner BS right there. There's little to no incentive in buying this product as everything it can do, a macbook can do better for half the price and could even guarantee that you'd be able to gamble properly online, cause you're not stuck on a 2 hour battery life. Plus if you wanna try out virtual gambling, why? Real life gambling is a thing and you can easily do it by just dropping by at your own local casino, would even help you socialize with people lmao.

There's no real application for this in the gambling or the gaming world, this is not your regular Oculus Glasses that allows for that feature. The Apple Vision Pro is specifically catered towards productivity, and light entertainment, not for some heavy-ass gaming/gambling.

I believe that in the long term, online casinos will become more common and profitable to run.
Thats why items like that are a potential success on this industry.

for example, where I live (Italy) there are very few and expensive to visit...Moreover there is a minimum limit to play which in some cases requires even 50 euros per game to be able to sit at the table...

otherwise there are bingo or betting halls but it is obviously not the same thing and it completely changes the type of games.

An item like this could shape the innovation? Probably yes as It happens with smartphones...

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

On June 5th, Apple released Apple Vision Pro, calling it their first spatial computer. It is an amazing piece of technology and innovation. They continuously push the boundaries of what is possible. I watched the introduction on YouTube, and it was terrific.

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Apple today unveiled Apple Vision Pro, a revolutionary spatial computer that seamlessly blends digital content with the physical world, while allowing users to stay present and connected to others. Vision Pro creates an infinite canvas for apps that scales beyond the boundaries of a traditional display and introduces a fully three-dimensional user interface controlled by the most natural and intuitive inputs possible — a user’s eyes, hands, and voice. Featuring visionOS, the world’s first spatial operating system, Vision Pro lets users interact with digital content in a way that feels like it is physically present in their space. The breakthrough design of Vision Pro features an ultra-high-resolution display system that packs 23 million pixels across two displays, and custom Apple silicon in a unique dual-chip design to ensure every experience feels like it’s taking place in front of the user’s eyes in real time.

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

1. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/

almost in every sector not only in gambling but also in business, trading, and videogame betting, and sports betting, this new release type of technology arise new opportunities. I would say that for a gambler, this would be too much of a cost. Especially if one is not yet earning that a lot of money.

Integration with new technology would be great, but it would be greater when it is accessible to everyone. But with that much of cost as I said, maybe gambling industry won't be able to catch up easily on that trend.

It would be accessible for all. Particularly those who can afford. They didn't mention about multiplayer with this spatial computing though and I could always hear is the 3D.
While there are sure good stuff in this product, it also gonna come with disadvantages like the ads that will be shown to you are also gonna be in 3D. Cheesy

I just watch a review video about Apple Vision Pro which is uploaded just today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGNg5Z_Okc
He is from GenZ and seem to have portrayed how isolated the next generation will be if this is adopted widely. But I believe there is no stopping from this metaverse though.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

On June 5th, Apple released Apple Vision Pro, calling it their first spatial computer. It is an amazing piece of technology and innovation. They continuously push the boundaries of what is possible. I watched the introduction on YouTube, and it was terrific.

Check out an expert's opinion on their website.¹

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Apple today unveiled Apple Vision Pro, a revolutionary spatial computer that seamlessly blends digital content with the physical world, while allowing users to stay present and connected to others. Vision Pro creates an infinite canvas for apps that scales beyond the boundaries of a traditional display and introduces a fully three-dimensional user interface controlled by the most natural and intuitive inputs possible — a user’s eyes, hands, and voice. Featuring visionOS, the world’s first spatial operating system, Vision Pro lets users interact with digital content in a way that feels like it is physically present in their space. The breakthrough design of Vision Pro features an ultra-high-resolution display system that packs 23 million pixels across two displays, and custom Apple silicon in a unique dual-chip design to ensure every experience feels like it’s taking place in front of the user’s eyes in real time.

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

1. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/

almost in every sector not only in gambling but also in business, trading, and videogame betting, and sports betting, this new release type of technology arise new opportunities. I would say that for a gambler, this would be too much of a cost. Especially if one is not yet earning that a lot of money.

Integration with new technology would be great, but it would be greater when it is accessible to everyone. But with that much of cost as I said, maybe gambling industry won't be able to catch up easily on that trend.

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I just watched the video on Youtube and I am fully blown away, this is going to be a new experience but the price is insane, very high but it's worth it judging from what the gadget can accomplish, my question now is how is this going to benefit gamblers? Because I don't see how, this won't stop you from losing your money and angrily throwing the device flying in the air lol.

It means nothing for gambling honestly, this gadget will mostly benefit the metaverse and AI technology, not gambling, are you planning to wear this into a casino or what?

You can go through browsers and it will look cool when you open any online gambling website and that's all there is to this device, or there is more?

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Apple vision pro will change the gambling industry totally but before that's achievable, the price of Apple vision pro needs to reduced. As it stands now, it's very costly and the poor can't afford to buy it because why will they waste that amount when they need more money.

If they bring down the price to an affordable range and casino begin implementing the device to their online casinos, alot of players will enjoy using it. I have played a game in VR before and the experience was so great that I had to return to play again.

Virtual reality is a game changer both in the gambling industry, entertainment industry and gaming industry all together. There isn't a doubt that it'll increase addiction as VR can get you addicted to anything because it's so realistic and enjoyable at the same time.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

On June 5th, Apple released Apple Vision Pro, calling it their first spatial computer. It is an amazing piece of technology and innovation. They continuously push the boundaries of what is possible. I watched the introduction on YouTube, and it was terrific.

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The technology is definitely a breakthrough. And it's nice to see that such a powerful campaign as Apple is not engaged in nonsense, like how to increase the number of cameras. Or include in your gadgets something that has been used on Android for a long time.

In terms of Gambling, I really want to see how roulette will look in such glasses. Imagine - you put them on in your room, and you're practically in a real casino! And how cool the wallpaper you bet on will look: one of the fighters falls in a knockout, and you have a huge inscription in front of your eyes YOUR PROFIT $$$ and money is falling on you

It's nice that we live during the emergence of such technologies.

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VR technology is going to be a great hit in online casino gambling. You are sitting at home wearing your headgear but the game takes you to a real casino where you get to walk around the floor among other gamers. You can walk over to the slot machine section and begin wagering on slots. Or you take a set at any of the casino tables to play roulette, blackjack, poker, etc. The possibilities are endless, and with the way technology is evolving, it's a crazy how far this thing can go.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Not sure what Apple is planing to do with their new glasses. So far I have seen a lot of memes being done for it, but I haven't heard from many people who want to own one. I don't really like the design, it looks like a ski mask and I wonder if people are really going to buy it. Sure there is the fraction of people who buy everything from Apple and will likely also buy the Vision Pro, as for the majority of the consumers I would expect them to not pay 3500 USD for one gadget. And the real question is how the gambling industry is going to react to it. For me personal this would never be an option, why should I pay so much money if I could use that money for gambling instead. Like you said there is no real benefit to get better winning chances from the glasses, it's only for comfort and to give us a better experience. Meta gambling is definitely going to be the future, but why not use a different VR headset that is much cheaper? So far I haven't bought any Apple products in the past and I am not going to start now.

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At such a high price for now, I didn't think there would be so many people willing to buy it. Maybe they'll wait until there are more cheaper options so they can afford it.

But such a device can give people a different experience but can also make them addicted to always wearing it and not doing any activity. But as long as we can use the latest technology well, actually the latest technology can help our activities. So maybe waiting for other devices that will certainly be more advanced than that Apple offers is a wise decision.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 10, 2023, 08:31:31 AM

Seems very expensive for the average person to be willing to purchase. I just don’t think at $3,500 enough online gamblers are going to want to want to buy it.

I could be wrong, I think it will sell well but at $3,500 gamblers specifically aren’t going to be the main audience imo.

My thoughts are similar but I do wonder -- Technology gets cheaper with time, (though with Apple the curve of time and price is shifted slightly to the right as it takes longer for Apple's tech to lower in price) -- imagine 5-10 years from now when the current iteration of the Vision pro would be at a price point, say, 50% cheaper, or more. Consider competitors catching up to Apple's technology and releasing their own VR headset.

I could see VR headsets becoming ubiquitous as a smartphone; VR gambling could be the next iteration of online gambling and the company that can introduce VR table games or slots will make a lot of money. I recall when virtual blackjack tables were first introduce some years ago, it felt pretty groundbreaking.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Good to hear that massive technology grow up with us, and walking together without any problems. I don't know what will have affected next for us and our children with this development. But so far I really like this kind, this is the same as the new tech metaverse, and creates cyberspace like real. Of course, it will affect addiction if the user can control his gambling habit. Play in the real world is fun, but when the real world really comes into our room and makes it easier to deposit, this is impact the new technology.

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Another innovation but I don't think that there will be a lot of gamblers that would be willing to spend $3,500 for that device. With that amount, as a gambler, I'll probably just gamble it all along.

But the wisest thing to do is to save that and then invest to any investment that I'll think of but most likely, I'll invest that in Bitcoin and that's much way better and wiser way to spend that money.

While it's still on its early stage, there could be a lot of bugs from the users that will eventually be found so it's better to wait until price goes down and when it's lesser buggy.

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As I was reading the op, I was visualizing in my head what the experience would be or feel like using this device, and yeah, if such a device will be introduced to gambling, that is, gamblers can wear this device, and through it, visit an online casino to gamble, that is something like being in the metaverse, but this time, it's highly upgraded cus its no longer something being experienced through a handheld device like phones or laptop computers, but a visual reality device that makes everything look like it's really happening live at that moment..

I agree this can cause people to loose track of time big time, and can easily drive many to gambling addiction, and this can even be worst cus with this device, it's no longer just gambling addiction we will be dealing with, but users wil be addicted to this device, and at the same time, addicted to gambling, which is two serious issues.

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 09, 2023, 03:46:46 AM

For sure, it's an innovative product that can generate a whole series of circumstances/use cases in many industries (entertainment and otherwise) obviously including gambling applications.
personal opinion Roll Eyes

, it will take time (at least a few years) before we see a realistic impact of this technology...

If you've seen the WWDC feature of this joke of a product, you'd realize that all your hopes were for nothing. Imagine using AR goggles not for entertainment, but for work and productivity, that's just downright Bladerunner BS right there. There's little to no incentive in buying this product as everything it can do, a macbook can do better for half the price and could even guarantee that you'd be able to gamble properly online, cause you're not stuck on a 2 hour battery life. Plus if you wanna try out virtual gambling, why? Real life gambling is a thing and you can easily do it by just dropping by at your own local casino, would even help you socialize with people lmao.

There's no real application for this in the gambling or the gaming world, this is not your regular Oculus Glasses that allows for that feature. The Apple Vision Pro is specifically catered towards productivity, and light entertainment, not for some heavy-ass gaming/gambling.

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Probably this Apple product would be really good for a Metaverse casino and could attract many gamblers in fact. It's such an amazing piece of technology as the OP mentioned imho. However, I think it's kind of expensive. So for anyone who wants to buy this product, I would recommend waiting a little bit longer to see what Samsung will release next. Then, you can choose which one fits you best.

According to the YouTube video, it looks really as an awesome product to be honest. We will see more reviews from buyers soon and we'll have a better opinion about it.

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Seems very expensive for the average person to be willing to purchase. I just don’t think at $3,500 enough online gamblers are going to want to want to buy it.

I could be wrong, I think it will sell well but at $3,500 gamblers specifically aren’t going to be the main audience imo.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

1. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/

Its a new world and a new experience yes at the start you could lose track of time and the immersion is enhanced because when we are trying out new concepts and new technology there's likely that we are going to spend more time and but still goes down to your level of control in your gambling habit.

But for gamblers who are looking for thrills and risk-takers, this is going to be bad for them, I'm sure casinos will recommend people to try this new technology to make them stay more on their platform and spend more, the more gamblers spend money and spend time the casino will make a profit.

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Not surprised about this new tech that Apple is introducing but if it has a very limited of power then those active gamblers and even those that have been in professional gambling won't see a lot of optimism with it.

But we've already saw those ideas about gambling with VR and some device that can be compatible with it.

Not that much to say on it but I know that this is a very promising way of attracting more to become gamblers.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

1. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/

Somewhere in the pile of the threads here in gambling discussions, this was also talked about. The title is VR versus AR or something like that. I cannot find it, maybe it was buried so deep but it was a healthy discussion and I think that will happen here too.

Injecting the said technology into the gambling industry. I don't think it's that bad but yes, there may be instances the gambling addiction will grow from those who play occasionally. It will change a lot of things and if it will become successful it might become the top played game using that.
But as I also said to the other thread, I was hoping they could make the technology cheaper and do the marketing inside the technology, I know that is expensive or will be expensive once it goes out of the market and it cannot be bought by gamblers who are tight on their budget.
There must be a way to change how they will make more profits rather than putting all the price on the item itself.

This will be cool in a poker game. There had been a lot of conversation on how a poker game could feel like it's almost real and I think this is the answer to it.

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 09, 2023, 03:46:46 AM

For sure, it's an innovative product that can generate a whole series of circumstances/use cases in many industries (entertainment and otherwise) obviously including gambling applications.
personal opinion Roll Eyes

, it will take time (at least a few years) before we see a realistic impact of this technology...

Yes, you are right, most of any innovative product will definitely take time to make users feel comfortable using it, technology is indeed developing fast but the impact takes time to be used en masse, especially in my opinion, the price is still relatively expensive and still relatively new. if the price is affordable maybe it will be used more by gamblers in online gambling.

Unfortunately the little gambler won't use this to test it even though it's a pretty good technology to use online gambling but I will see how it is used by online gambling and rich people gambling using Apple vision pro.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

For gambling experience I think that will take some time before casinos would adopt to the tech, but not that long I guess. You would really lost track of time when you play with this but that will always depends on how you manage your time and you have other important things to do. On gambling addiction, I think the same way too that it may increase your risk.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

I mean is this the first thing we think about when it happened? I do not think that it is as good as people think it is, I feel like this is going to be just a bit more advanced VR goggles and nothing more, nothing too fancy and it will not make it all that great. People are reacting as if this will be something amazing and it will be like we are totally in a different place but the reality is that it is not going to be a technological marvel, nothing we haven't seen or heard of before, it is going to be as normal as it gets.

Secondly we are going to end up with something that means it is going to end up with very expensive so it would be only available to few people around the world, we are not going to end up with millions of people using it, and of those few who has it, how many will want a casino, how many would even build one?

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Quote from: Yatsan on June 09, 2023, 10:07:51 AM

Things are still virtual but with a different perspective. It'll give enjoyment indeed to the gamblers but would it be an added risk to gambling addiction? If by gambling engagement I think it would do so, first of all the more a players enjoys what he's doing, it would push him to play for a longer period of time. But with regards on betting more and losing more, that depends on the player. A change with gambling experience won't guarantee an increase to betting amount, I guess, the player will just enjoy it more. However, if it is just "true gambling experience" they are seeking of, why do they just go to a landbased one? Convenience? I doubt.

apple will always keep producing expensive gadget to the market because they know that people will always buy since it is there product. Honestly I see know reason for this since it is not going to affect our gambling activities positively to make us earn more. This is going to be a big trend now that people are always after Apple's products because it is of a good quality. I would prefer using the fund I will use to buy this for something that will be more meaningful for me than wasting it on a vision pro apple product since I don't know what I would benefit using it.

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Things are still virtual but with a different perspective. It'll give enjoyment indeed to the gamblers but would it be an added risk to gambling addiction? If by gambling engagement I think it would do so, first of all the more a players enjoys what he's doing, it would push him to play for a longer period of time. But with regards on betting more and losing more, that depends on the player. A change with gambling experience won't guarantee an increase to betting amount, I guess, the player will just enjoy it more. However, if it is just "true gambling experience" they are seeking of, why do they just go to a landbased one? Convenience? I doubt.

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It would obviously be one heck of an experience but unfortunately, not everyone can afford to buy this device and experience it, the device is probably pretty costly and an average gambler cannot afford it, besides, there will be the need for a casino to create and develop an environment that will support this device which users from all over the world can use to get together and gamble against each other.

It will take quite some time to implement these things in the gambling industry and even if they manage to do it, the affordability will be a big hurdle for people to be able to experience something immersive and the companies or platforms offering this sort of gambling will probably be at a loss for the development costs.

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Using the device will make us feel like we are in a casino, and maybe we can also interact with other gamblers. But this requires self-control because using this device can make us more comfortable playing gambling and forget about our goal so that we won't realize if we have been gambling for a long time. Some gamblers may say they can still control themselves, but after experiencing that different experience, they can forget to control themselves. This different experience can make gamblers more curious about this device to find other new things. So be careful if you finally decide to buy the device.

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Do you know the price of this piece of s*it? It's 3500 USD. I wonder how many gamblers around the world would be willing to spend 3500USD just to "enhance their gambling experience" by adding virtual reality? Not much, if you ask me.
Replacing a real offline casino with this virtual reality BS seems like nonsense to me. Replacing an online casino with VR is another nonsense.
I have the feeling that this VR technology will have much bigger success in the adult industry, rather than the gambling industry. Grin

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For sure, it's an innovative product that can generate a whole series of circumstances/use cases in many industries (entertainment and otherwise) obviously including gambling applications.
personal opinion Roll Eyes

, it will take time (at least a few years) before we see a realistic impact of this technology...

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Apple Vision pro gonna make 1% impact on online gambling. Meaning it will have almost no effect, but still more than zero. People would try to access casinos and try gambling in those glasses just for fun, just for test. Not more. Apple Vision pro - what this really is? A VR glasses? Another VR. Current VR did not change gambling industry radically, so why then Apple VR would. In fact, that will be more an expensive accessory to stand out, to show that you are cool and rich, than people would really use it and choose over other VR glasses.

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As a small gambler, just see how it works Apple Vision Pro to play gambling, obviously it will be easier and more fun, but if asked whether I will use it, I prefer to use the mobile browser only because Apple Vision Pro is too expensive for me, a small gambler and maybe only people who claim to be rich gamblers will use this later.

But as far as I can see from their promotional YouTube videos, everything looks alive because we can play like being in a real casino can add a new experience in gambling, but I'm just a connoisseur and won't buy it just to find pleasure in gambling, if asked that can make people become addicts, I think YES for the rich and unemployed people may become addicts, workers like me will not have much time to gamble except weekends. Wink

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

On June 5th, Apple released Apple Vision Pro, calling it their first spatial computer. It is an amazing piece of technology and innovation. They continuously push the boundaries of what is possible. I watched the introduction on YouTube, and it was terrific.

Same shit different day... VR/AR is vaporware. It will never take off. They should come up with better ideas instead of this outdated tech. They already tried the VR thing and people didn't like it back then, what makes them think people will like it now? It is a good tech if you want to fry your brain faster but other than this, it has no use. Just like metaverse, they are burning the investors' cash on nothingburger. I am disappointed to see that a trillion dollar worth company is not capable of bringing any new and exciting tech anymore.

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The barrier to entry for mass adoption of this new technology are the price. The average gambler does not have $3,499 for a headset and the developers are not going to develop games that can only be played by a few people that have the money to pay for those over priced headsets.

I think some highrollers might buy this and the developers will develop games for the lower priced headsets...and you might find that it is compatible to the higher end headsets with better quality displays. (People will be able to access the same software with the Apple Vision Pro, but they will have much higher quality graphics and a more fluent gaming experience) Wink

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It's pretty much similar like VR, if there's a casino you can play with VR, you don't have to use Apple Vision Pro to get an experience.

If you have gamble on both offline and online casino, you will not enjoy to use VR because you can just visit an offline casino in your country. But if someone only have an experience gamble on online casino and there's no offline casino in their country, this will make you have an interesting experience.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

It won't impact online gambling at all because it currently has no support for gambling applications and the gambling Casinos have to create separate applications that support the functionalities of the device. In order to create those applications they might have to spend millions of dollars for the purpose and still most of the gamblers won't buy the device because it offers 2 hours of battery backup and has a cost of 3500$ or even more if you add taxes and delivery charges. It won't be able to compete against the other devices when it comes to eyes safely because this thing can damage your eyes if someone uses it for long term and the user can't even wear blue-light blocking glasses during its use.

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I think its pretty viavleu through augmented reality casino applications. I mean "bringing casino to your home" can be real perfect slogan there. Its bit too expensive piece of hardware, yet I can imagine future versions of it getting affordable. I think casinos can put ads through their apps so now, we can have full ad experiences in our homes! hahah. I mean this may sound funny but it would be another beneficial thing for casinos. Showing ad at your own wall or couch. In sports betting, hard to imagine uses. themes? maybe.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

1. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/

What is going to change is the gamblers' pocket, by having $3,500 less. In my case, I won't try such glasses until competitors bring them out at affordable prices, which could take years. But to pay $3,500 for the 'experience' I'd rather spend it on other experiences, as it gives you enough for a few dinners and going out and even a trip. Apple being a company that is very successful at selling mediocre products at high prices, I will wait for the day when there is a good eyewear product at cheap prices. And the difference in experience as a gambler can wait, I'll keep gambling as before.

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As far as I know Apple Vision Pro is an AR device that will offer virtual experiences to be more real and that will allow users to better interact with their virtual world. Of course, this technology would be very good to be implemented on a gambling platform because it would be able to deliver a better experience to players, especially for those who want to play virtually but want to look real. The minus is that the development of AR requires a lot of resources, and not all gambling platforms are capable of developing this. Moreover, Apple Vision Pro is quite expensive, so not all players can buy this device.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Might be a good innovation but I believed most gamblers aren't interested in that kind of stuff. Why should they need that kind of stuff in the first place? It won't even change the odds of winning as you said. It's like the use of VR technology wherein I can say, doesn't even have any impact on the overall gambling experience.

I'm sure it won't be a game-changer in gambling. Those rich guys might just buy it for recognition or because they are hype.

Gamblers are gamblers and they only care for profits. Maybe for those gamblers who are into physical casinos before, they might want that stuff.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on June 08, 2023, 06:04:17 PM

That's literally the bare minimum of what it should do, and I do think Apple got it right but I just don't see people going out of their way to buy stuff like this (I do know that people will buy this) when a macbook does the same thing for less than the regular price of a Vision Pro, without the sucky battery life, the subpar features and benefits, and the price too. And in my opinion (don't ratify me on this) if you're someone who wants to be even more immersed in your gambling session that you'd rather buy this overpriced hunk of plastic and silicon rather than just literally go to your nearest casino and playing whatever similar game is presented on the gambling site, you have a brain problem and you should get yourself checked because that is not a normal way of thinking.

Aside from the comfort of playing at home and private, I don't see the need to wear this stuff for anything at first it was best for movies and now apple has taken it a little long and far by developing this one for the gamers and I am sure some of them are going to spend some extra cash to acquire this stuff, the only noticeable set back is the battery life, so the enjoy better gaming experience you have to plug a charging cable from your device to the power supply while you use, which may sound a bit uncomfortable to do.

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Quote from: Wexnident on June 08, 2023, 05:58:40 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Oh it's the new VR gear, with a seemingly insane price tag afaik AND a battery life that sucks ass. The thing is, there are probably more bad sides to it but just these two are already more of a reason that shows this thing isn't really worth it for what they showcased (which was err, watching movies, live virtual showing/presentation idk what you'd call it really, and other stuff similar to that). A laptop or mobile phone would 100% suffice, and be a lot more comfortable with a LOT lower of price tag. This is just a premium, expensive idk, toy for people who want some luxury in life. Which I kinda get, Apple does have their target audience as those tbf.

But to it gambling, I don't think it matters much. It just enhances the experience if it can do what I'm imagining it can, since it has afaik AR tech as well? Should be a rather immersive experience imo. But to buy it just to gamble? Nah, I'm better off going to a physical casino really.

That's literally the bare minimum of what it should do, and I do think Apple got it right but I just don't see people going out of their way to buy stuff like this (I do know that people will buy this) when a macbook does the same thing for less than the regular price of a Vision Pro, without the sucky battery life, the subpar features and benefits, and the price too. And in my opinion (don't ratify me on this) if you're someone who wants to be even more immersed in your gambling session that you'd rather buy this overpriced hunk of plastic and silicon rather than just literally going to your nearest casino and playing whatever similar game is presented on the gambling site, you have a brain problem and you should get yourself checked because that is not a normal way of thinking.

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Quote from: Beparanf on June 08, 2023, 10:53:01 AM

Is this better on Oculus VR?

Did you mean better than? I will say so, but also very expensive. Apple Vision Pro cost $3500 which is more than expensive. But it is the best that I have seen. According to the review I have watched before it is eyes sensitive. If you look at apps on the vision pro, the app will detect that as it increases in size, and if you want to click on the app, only what you need to do is to touch your thumb with your fore finger and it will click. Apps and everything is controlled by your eyes and your fingers. It would be of nice experience, but the battery is not strong and it is too expensive. Some VR devices are requires you to connect to a PC or console though, while Oculus VR like Quest or Meta Quest 2 last 2 to 3 hours after fully charged.

This is insane I mean the price, I don't know why some people still go for that over priced products Apple has lost its place in the market and we have better products that can compete with Apple at a cheaper rate and some of them are more durable compared to Apple products that lack battery.

We already have something like this produced by Samsung and can be used on Android phones that meet its standard, unlike this one that is limited to only Apple devices.

If we do speak about Apple products then for sure it would really be that in premium price which is something that normal because they do really have that expensive products. Do we really think that people would be buying up this thing to have that other real experience in gambling? I dont think so but rather they would really be just simply be contented with their current experienced on using up their devices. It might be giving off that typical or casual experience but the difference isnt that much and not all would really be that spending up tons on something like this.People or gamblers would rather be using up the funds or money on their gambling spending rather than spending on some eyeglass type or wearable on which it doesnt really give out that much significant experience. Online gambling implication or effect?
I dont see for it to be that big or really just that been ignored most likely.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Oh it's the new VR gear, with a seemingly insane price tag afaik AND a battery life that sucks ass. The thing is, there are probably more bad sides to it but just these two are already more of a reason that shows this thing isn't really worth it for what they showcased (which was err, watching movies, live virtual showing/presentation idk what you'd call it really, and other stuff similar to that). A laptop or mobile phone would 100% suffice, and be a lot more comfortable with a LOT lower of price tag. This is just a premium, expensive idk, toy for people who want some luxury in life. Which I kinda get, Apple does have their target audience as those tbf.

But to it gambling, I don't think it matters much. It just enhances the experience if it can do what I'm imagining it can, since it has afaik AR tech as well? Should be a rather immersive experience imo. But to buy it just to gamble? Nah, I'm better off going to a physical casino really.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on June 08, 2023, 11:04:54 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on June 08, 2023, 10:53:01 AM

Is this better on Oculus VR?

Did you mean better than? I will say so, but also very expensive. Apple Vision Pro cost $3500 which is more than expensive. But it is the best that I have seen. According to the review I have watched before it is eyes sensitive. If you look at apps on the vision pro, the app will detect that as it increases in size, and if you want to click on the app, only what you need to do is to touch your thumb with your fore finger and it will click. Apps and everything is controlled by your eyes and your fingers. It would be of nice experience, but the battery is not strong and it is too expensive. Some VR devices are requires you to connect to a PC or console though, while Oculus VR like Quest or Meta Quest 2 last 2 to 3 hours after fully charged.

This is insane I mean the price, I don't know why some people still go for that over priced products Apple has lost its place in the market and we have better products that can compete with Apple at a cheaper rate and some of them are more durable compared to Apple products that lack battery.

We already have something like this produced by Samsung and can be used on Android phones that meet its standard, unlike this one that is limited to only Apple devices.

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It can work as a marketing boost for casinos which decide introducing this feature to their platforms, so they can be noticed as "innovative" by the public, but for real I don't think it's going to be so entertaining like they promise, as the technology hasn't evolved to a decent satisfaction level yet. Gamblers looking for immersive experience still have to go to land based casinos, there isn't any other alternative for now and probably there won't be for the next decade, at least.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction.

Still depends on the casino who wants to implement on such device. Because implementing this means another source of budget for the graphics that may look a real casino, and buying this one knowing this is a apple product, too expensive, which i don't think casino will consider easily. Well, if they do, that's great, having great experience is better but winning is the best, lossing is worst lol.

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It doesn't have any promising gambling implication, it's a massive disappointment and Apple should realize what they are doing by now. They're a tech company first and a luxury brand second, so they ought to stop releasing trash products like these in the future from now on. Going back to this sorry excuse for a VR headset, first thing's first, it's tacky. The moment you wear that shit around your face you don't look like you're doing work, you'd look like you're watching VR porn through you knockoff google lenses, and besides the fashion part, you're working with an overpriced VR headphone that only gives you 2 hour of playtime. Plus there's not a lot of things you could do on it too, it's mainly usable for work with all these "excel sheets and productivity" mumbo-jumbo they are talking about during its press release.

Apple Vision Pro is a massive disappointment, it's not gonna promise anything besides that dizzying starting price. People are still going to buy it for sure but the stock value of Apple will be the one to decide whether they did something smart or dumb, and upon looking at it, I don't think they revolutionized anything here.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 08, 2023, 04:02:11 PM

However there are about 80% of gamblers who do not give a damn about this technology as they are happy with how things are now.

It is an Apple tech, and gamblers who make use of android and windows OS have no use for it yet not until the technology is copied and the replicated by other manufacturers to make It available to other people non-apple users. For the online gambling I doubt that many people will be comfortable repeatedly wearing a big eye glass to gamble, some people who gamble online like for it to be private and something they can do without other people's knowledge, the Apple Vision Pro is not for them.

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I don't see how it the Vision Pro will have big effects on online gambling, but I'm pretty sure that the adult entertainment industry will come up with some innovative stuff.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on June 08, 2023, 04:14:39 PM

It can change the interfase for the client/player, and you can be more "immersive" but in the end its gonna be the same as always, you are gonna spend the same mone you spend today and make the same plays you make today.

In the first days maybe a company gains a little momentum with the early adoption but not so much.

You can just use that money as your capital instead of spending that much on an item that can’t totally affect your gambling experience. Well, rich people will always want to follow the trend so I expect many will still buy and since this is not just about gambling, many are curious about this thing and how it can change the experience of many. Let’s just see if Apple will allow us to experience it without buying it, because I’m curious too.

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It can change the interfase for the client/player, and you can be more "immersive" but in the end its gonna be the same as always, you are gonna spend the same mone you spend today and make the same plays you make today.

In the first days maybe a company gains a little momentum with the early adoption but not so much.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

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I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

1. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/

I think that since the metaverse became a thing people have been thinking about the possibility of online gambling taking yet another step and becoming way more realistic than what we have right now, and I think this is inevitable, it will not happen tomorrow as I think the price of those devices is going to be too high for the majority of the population, but give it a few decades and they will be everywhere, so it is important that casinos begin to explore those new possibilities, since the first casino which creates an attractive experience you can go through in conjunction with VR equipment will become the leader of that new market.

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They say that Apple gets every product right and I guess they got the Vision Pro right as a product but I doubt all gamblers would love that.Sure most of us of the generation that have been born in 1990 and up will love that as we grew up with video games like Nintendo,Sega and Sony as kids and then moved to other games,mostly to casino providers where we are now Grin

and personally I would love to be immersed in the world of slot machines,their medieval themes would look so real and the level of adrenaline and emotions will be insane when we play slot machines with this new technology.

However there are about 80% of gamblers who do not give a damn about this technology as they are happy with how things are now.

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I don't think that this device can increase the gambling satisfaction a person experienced in gambling without integrating metaverse. Since this gadget works as a mobile phone set into a VR googles then there is nothing new experience it gives but a bragging right that they had an expensive VR gadget.

Quote from: ralle14 on June 08, 2023, 03:36:54 PM

It could encourage third party providers to make VR or AR games in the future, but I agree with the others this shouldn't have that much impact in the gambling space since they're not necessary as most of the casino games can be played without it. IMO they're more suitable for physical casinos than online so most gamblers won't have to spend so much money just to experience a different gameplay. I doubt it'll increase the case of gambling addictions when there's barely any need to get the new Apple device.

I think it will heighten the entertainment if metaverse is integrated on the apps that will run on the device. Else it will be just a normal experience which I also don't think will affect the gambling experience of a person that much. Thus, I also think that it won't have that much impact on the gambling addiction of a person.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 08, 2023, 01:06:22 PM

I think that there won't be any great implication, because Apple Vision Pro is a stupid product with a really stupid price. It is scandalous to pay 3500$ for a Vision pro.

In my opinion the first revolution will start when a cheap product with great technology will come out, and technology at the moment is "unripe".

Exactly, who will spend that much for a product like this, and I’m sure other brand will have a better version of this one who will offer it at a cheaper price. If this is Metaverse then they should make it cheaper so that many can afford and the trend will continue. I assume this product will not get much of a buyer, the price is too much for a less feature of this product, better to wait for more years and we will see this trend to be more cheaper.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on June 08, 2023, 10:47:36 AM

According to two YouTube videos that I watched after the Apple Vision Pro was released, they said people should take note that it can only last two hours after it is fully charged. Some people may want to track their gambling activities like in sport betting, this can not much be of any help. But it would be of good experience for casino users.

With what I learn about it too, only apple apps are still there for now. With time developers will have app there too. Likely it is using a different OS that is not iOS and macOS. But for gambling sites to have apps for it, it will take time. But if there is web browser, it can be used to access gambling site on it easily.

Another thing is that wearing this for long may not be that comfortable at all.

Also isolating yourself to do things on this thing may be kind of weird for people around you.

I havent watched it yet but this one turns out to be that just like on putting up your mobile phone into a VR googles or headset
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/virtual-reality-1.3455804

It might be different but it would really be just a similar concept on which i dont see any difference at all. Adding up that addiction? I dont think so.
Gamblers would really be much preferring on using up those casual engagement on which they arent really that wearing up something.Although with this tech existing then it wont really be that
surprising that there would be those people who would really be loving to test it out and would really tend to see that it is something that giving that different vibe
or experience.

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It could encourage third party providers to make VR or AR games in the future, but I agree with the others this shouldn't have that much impact in the gambling space since they're not necessary as most of the casino games can be played without it. IMO they're more suitable for physical casinos than online so most gamblers won't have to spend so much money just to experience a different gameplay. I doubt it'll increase the case of gambling addictions when there's barely any need to get the new Apple device.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

A gambling addict doesn't need a casino environment and can be satisfied with online gambling but i wouldn't say the same for newcomers to gambling. Gambling at the casino is a very attractive environment for beginners. If you feel like a king there and the more you earn, the more likely you are to lose money.

The fact that VR and AR technologies keep the casino environment alive will of course start gambling for those who are new to gambling and those who are hesitant to go to the casino. Vision Pro will be ideal, especially for those who want to gamble at the casino and hesitate to go there. Vision pro has the potential to conquer not only the gambling industry but also many experience based industries.

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I think that there won't be any great implication, because Apple Vision Pro is a stupid product with a really stupid price. It is scandalous to pay 3500$ for a Vision pro.

In my opinion the first revolution will start when a cheap product with great technology will come out, and technology at the moment is "unripe".

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Quote from: avikz on June 08, 2023, 12:39:24 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic.

This is a stupidly overpriced product. But it may sell well due to Apple's branding. But I don't see any impact on the gambling industry unless someone wants to experience casino in metaverse. Usually seasoned gamblers will not want to experience this, rather they would like to focus on the game to make money.
For some newbie gamblers, who had never experienced casino, they might want to try this just to experience it. At the end of the day, entire metaverse concept is rubbish and it will eventually die down.

The Metaverse Casino is pretty interesting, but some of the Metaverse projects aren't just Apple Vision. Even before Apple Vision came out, there were a lot of cheaper VR products out there. Apple Vision is priced at $ 3500 and this is certainly quite expensive.
For those who want to experience the Metaverse presented by Apple, maybe price won't be a problem. But for some people spending that much money just for a device that is not very useful, they certainly won't do it. Of course there will be many similar devices that are cheaper.

That's what I was thinking when I checked the price of this gadget, not everyone can afford to buy one.
But that is true, with the launch of this Apple product, definitely, there will be similar products from other brands that will emerge fast.
So yes, once the public can afford this type of gadget, a lot will be hooked into this and gambling industry is no exception.
A lot of younger ones are already into the gaming industry today, so gambling industry is quite reachable by this generation.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic.

This is a stupidly overpriced product. But it may sell well due to Apple's branding. But I don't see any impact on the gambling industry unless someone wants to experience casino in metaverse. Usually seasoned gamblers will not want to experience this, rather they would like to focus on the game to make money.

For some newbie gamblers, who had never experienced casino, they might want to try this just to experience it. At the end of the day, entire metaverse concept is rubbish and it will eventually die down.

Apple has the habit to make old version unusable like the old apple phones that we can't install apps anymore because its unsupported by their istore. Yes many will still buy this but I may not. I probably will wait for what Samnsung will release as their version.

For gambling, yes this could be useful especially in card games. You wanna see what the card dealer and players in poker.

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Quote from: avikz on June 08, 2023, 12:39:24 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic.

This is a stupidly overpriced product. But it may sell well due to Apple's branding. But I don't see any impact on the gambling industry unless someone wants to experience casino in metaverse. Usually seasoned gamblers will not want to experience this, rather they would like to focus on the game to make money.

For some newbie gamblers, who had never experienced casino, they might want to try this just to experience it. At the end of the day, entire metaverse concept is rubbish and it will eventually die down.

The Metaverse Casino is pretty interesting, but some of the Metaverse projects aren't just Apple Vision. Even before Apple Vision came out, there were a lot of cheaper VR products out there. Apple Vision is priced at $ 3500 and this is certainly quite expensive.
For those who want to experience the Metaverse presented by Apple, maybe price won't be a problem. But for some people spending that much money just for a device that is not very useful, they certainly won't do it. Of course there will be many similar devices that are cheaper.

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The Apple Vision Pro has the ability to improve gambling experience and turn some people into gambling addicts, but it is still the people who are susceptible to becoming addicts. The gambling experience will improve, but it will affect those more who are unable to control themselves. For any gambler who is strong willed and disciplined in their gambling, the Apple vision Pro will not be successful in turning them into addict's by making them go against their normal gambling habits and principles.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic.

This is a stupidly overpriced product. But it may sell well due to Apple's branding. But I don't see any impact on the gambling industry unless someone wants to experience casino in metaverse. Usually seasoned gamblers will not want to experience this, rather they would like to focus on the game to make money.

For some newbie gamblers, who had never experienced casino, they might want to try this just to experience it. At the end of the day, entire metaverse concept is rubbish and it will eventually die down.

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I do think that the fact that you can converge two (2) different realities at the same time is just groundbreaking and technological complex. However, if I have that kind of technology, I would probably use it on a different platform like streaming movies or work. The limited battery hinders me from doing other stuff without having to plug it while using.

Though this may be the case, this could actually be the start of a technological revolution and innovation. The fact that Apple had already started this movement means that there will be applications that will be created exclusively for the use of VRs and ARs.

Still, however, online gambling in different platforms is still the key in this day and age. Maybe the days of visiting a physical casino may soon be obsolete, but I do think that this is far from happening.

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Quote from: Beparanf on June 08, 2023, 10:53:01 AM

Is this better on Oculus VR?

Did you mean better than? I will say so, but also very expensive. Apple Vision Pro cost $3500 which is more than expensive. But it is the best that I have seen. According to the review I have watched before it is eyes sensitive. If you look at apps on the vision pro, the app will detect that as it increases in size, and if you want to click on the app, only what you need to do is to touch your thumb with your fore finger and it will click. Apps and everything is controlled by your eyes and your fingers. It would be of nice experience, but the battery is not strong and it is too expensive. Some VR devices are requires you to connect to PC or console though, while Oculus VR like Quest or Meta Quest 2 last 2 to 3 hours after fully charged.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on June 08, 2023, 10:47:36 AM

According to two YouTube videos that I watched after the Apple Vision Pro was released, they said people should take note that it can only last two hours after it is fully charged. Some people may want to track their gambling activities like in sport betting, this can not much be of any help. But it would be good much for casinos.

I think is just a waste to use on sportsbetting. This is suitable for slot games and most likely on live casino games which probably the main market of this gadget if implemented on gambling. The experience on using this on live games like blackjack and game shows will be ecstatic because it’s already close to playing in real casino.

Bitcasino have a metaverse for their live casino. I think this gadget will be perfect to partner with their metaverse since it can create a better VR on gambling.

Is this better on Oculus VR?

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According to two YouTube videos that I watched after the Apple Vision Pro was released, they said people should take note that it can only last two hours after it is fully charged. Some people may want to track their gambling activities like in sport betting, this can not much be of any help. But it would be of good experience for casino users.

With what I learn about it too, only apple apps are still there for now. With time developers will have app there too. Likely it is using a different OS that is not iOS and macOS. But for gambling sites to have apps for it, it will take time. But if there is web browser, it can be used to access gambling site on it easily.

Another thing is that wearing this for long may not be that comfortable at all.

Also isolating yourself to do things on this thing may be kind of weird for people around you.

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On June 5th, Apple released Apple Vision Pro, calling it their first spatial computer. It is an amazing piece of technology and innovation. They continuously push the boundaries of what is possible. I watched the introduction on YouTube, and it was terrific.

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Apple today unveiled Apple Vision Pro, a revolutionary spatial computer that seamlessly blends digital content with the physical world, while allowing users to stay present and connected to others. Vision Pro creates an infinite canvas for apps that scales beyond the boundaries of a traditional display and introduces a fully three-dimensional user interface controlled by the most natural and intuitive inputs possible — a user’s eyes, hands, and voice. Featuring visionOS, the world’s first spatial operating system, Vision Pro lets users interact with digital content in a way that feels like it is physically present in their space. The breakthrough design of Vision Pro features an ultra-high-resolution display system that packs 23 million pixels across two displays, and custom Apple silicon in a unique dual-chip design to ensure every experience feels like it’s taking place in front of the user’s eyes in real time.

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

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