Are the US and Russia about to become great allies?

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Quote from: freedomno1 on January 23, 2015, 02:30:33 PM

Quote from: Snail2 on January 14, 2015, 06:42:19 AM

Unlikely. Russians used to sort out these kinds of issues on their own.

True enough knowing Putin he will just wait a while for the Americans to leave then go back in
Ah history war in Afghanistan ^^

He might win if he can get a hold of the info the u.s learned from fighting guerilla warfare.

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Quote from: Balthazar on January 16, 2015, 03:47:30 PM

Sorry, I missed a bit. Cheesy

Shame on me, it was Catherine the Great of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire–United_States_relations#Russian_involvement_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

By the way, it's interesting that she's a distant relative of current UK's PM.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/david-cameron-catherine-great-painting-2939251

I think you will find much of Europe's royal families are related somewhere along the line. Many of them intentionally would only marry other royals, and this was even used as a diplomatic tool, linking two kingdoms/countries by family as a means to preserve peace among their peoples.

during ww1 Kaiser, czar, Austria king and the king of England were all related and cousins. from queen victoria

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Quote from: Elwar on January 14, 2015, 06:11:06 AM

Isis 'execution video' purports to show 10-year-old boy shooting dead two 'Russian spies'
http[Suspicious link removed]cution-video-purports-to-show-10yearold-boy-shooting-dead-two-russian-spies-9975648.html

Russia will likely want to retaliate, and with the US having so much interference in Iraq they may need to cooperate with the US to bomb ISIS back to before the stone age.

So blind we are. Your source is bogus and smells of US propaganda!

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I highly doubt Russia and the US would team up against ISIS but you never know....

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Quote from: Snail2 on January 14, 2015, 06:42:19 AM

Unlikely. Russians used to sort out these kinds of issues on their own.

True enough knowing Putin he will just wait a while for the Americans to leave then go back in
Ah history war in Afghanistan ^^

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Quote from: Balthazar on January 16, 2015, 03:47:30 PM

Sorry, I missed a bit. Cheesy

Shame on me, it was Catherine the Great of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire–United_States_relations#Russian_involvement_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

By the way, it's interesting that she's a distant relative of current UK's PM.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/david-cameron-catherine-great-painting-2939251

I think you will find much of Europe's royal families are related somewhere along the line. Many of them intentionally would only marry other royals, and this was even used as a diplomatic tool, linking two kingdoms/countries by family as a means to preserve peace among their peoples.

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Sorry, I missed a bit. Cheesy

Shame on me, it was Catherine the Great of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire–United_States_relations#Russian_involvement_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

By the way, it's interesting that she's a distant relative of current UK's PM.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/david-cameron-catherine-great-painting-2939251

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Quote from: Balthazar on January 14, 2015, 06:46:58 AM

USA exists mostly because Russian Empire recognized its independence and supplied them with weapons.

When USA declared its independence, Britain's monarchy requested Russian Empire to help them in suppression of this rebellion, offering gold in exchange for help. Alexander II rejected this proposal, and said that Britain have to deal with this problem themselves. And started supporting the US. Roll Eyes

Wasn't Alexander II born after the American Revolution had already ended?

The French were openly helping the Americans. I'm not sure the Russians declining to help the British can be cited as the reason the USA exists... In fact, I'm sure of it.

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Quote from: Troonetpt on January 16, 2015, 05:30:46 AM

If Putin step down, then it possible.

If Putin steps down and someone like Yeltsin comes to power, then Russia will not be USA's ally, but its vassal. Big difference there. BEing allies demands mutual respect. This respect was not there during Yeltsin's era (only demands for subservience), and there is no respect forthcoming from Washington now, only threats and demonisation.

To turn you statement around, if Ron Paul was not cheated out of his presidency, then it would have been possible.

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If Putin step down, then it possible.

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I would highly doubt this. While the US and Russia have technically long been allies with eachother they have never truly trusted eachother and have generally always (for at least 100~ years) spied on eachother and stolen eachother secrets

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Russia will take care of this on its own. No need for US assistance. Interests can temporarily align without an alliance being formed.

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Doubtful, the US's collusion w/ Saudi Arabia to keep oil prices below $50 a barrel is costing Russia's GDP some $46+ Billion this year or so and I can't see Russia/Putin overlooking this to worry about the incident the OP posted. Just doesn't seem likely is what I mean.

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Quote from: Balthazar on January 14, 2015, 06:46:58 AM

They were allies before US were overtaken by FED mafia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-American_Company

USA exists mostly because Russian Empire recognized its independence and supplied them with weapons.

When USA declared its independence, Britain's monarchy requested Russian Empire to help them in suppression of this rebellion, offering gold in exchange for help. Alexander II rejected this proposal, and said that Britain have to deal with this problem themselves. And started supporting the US. Roll Eyes

They were friendly too in the 80s when Yakov Smirnov became the ambassador for Russia and Reagan and Gorbechov were buddies.

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They were allies before US were overtaken by FED mafia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-American_Company

USA exists mostly because Russian Empire recognized its independence and supplied them with weapons.

When USA declared its independence, Britain's monarchy requested Russian Empire to help them in suppression of this rebellion, offering gold in exchange for help. Alexander II rejected this proposal, and said that Britain have to deal with this problem themselves. And started supporting the US. Roll Eyes

P.S. Yep, support for the separatist movements is a kind of traditional russian thing. Cheesy

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Russian and US be like

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Unlikely. Russians used to sort out these kinds of issues on their own.

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No way, they can't be allies.

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it has always been usa + islamic terrorists against russia

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Isis 'execution video' purports to show 10-year-old boy shooting dead two 'Russian spies'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-execution-video-purports-to-show-10yearold-boy-shooting-dead-two-russian-spies-9975648.html

Russia will likely want to retaliate, and with the US having so much interference in Iraq they may need to cooperate with the US to bomb ISIS back to before the stone age.

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