Topic: Are there long-term profitable sports bettors? (Read 325 times)

This is what I'm talking about. Profitable long-term players exist and among them there are even many little-known players, not just famous ones. But I think that sports betting is still one of the most difficult types of earnings. If we compare this with trading, then I believe that in trading the percentage of profitable players is much higher. Even if we take intraday trading and even scalping, then even there there are 3-5% successful players in the long term. And in sports betting... I got the feeling that there are no more than 1% of them.

Even if you do stick yourself into those favorites most of the time, it wont really be giving out that assurance that you could really be that profitable because of several factors on which it could really affect
those outcome basing up into the things that will really be that resulting into different result on which we know that upsets could really happen. Long term profitable bettors?
For sure there is, it is really just that they are lowkey and wont really be boasting up themselves into the public. Usually these are  the people who do easily or commonly
be kicked out by bookies on the time that they do make out those good winning rate. They dont really like those people.

The sports betting was not the predictable one,because the game of the individual player will change daily based on their physical health.The sports betting people mostly use the less money for the betting,because the sports betting site allow the player to start with the less amount.The gambling site rank up also based on the sports bet wager x3 for the sports betting and the casino with the x1 wager to their rank.So the many gamblers use their game in the sports betting ,but the game in the gambling based on the luck as compared to the skill.Because the skill should be change many times in the casino game by the gamblers.

It's clear there are definitely players like that, even though there aren't many. Many factors influence it, especially if he has a close relationship with the dealer.
We cannot deny this because he will definitely bet consistently to win. A small player like me will definitely find it difficult to do that.
If you are an outsider, it will seem impossible to win the match. But the chance of winning in the long term will always be there, even if the percentage is only small.

That's for casino games and not sports betting.
In sports betting, you can somehow increase the chance of winning through analysis. Well, as long as you know the game you are playing with. Some are trying to just guess the winners or will only follow the favorites but for me, that is entirely wrong. If one person wants to be a successful sports gambler then he will need to have deep knowledge about the game that he will be for. Blind guessing won't take us anywhere especially if we aiming for long-term profits.
I have seen members in this community that have a high percentage of winning although they are rare to share their bets. But at least they have done their jobs to first do the research to increase their chance of hitting the bet they made.
I know sometimes we are lazy to do that because I have been there, but we must make effort to read what the possible results are so that we won't regret it later.

Yeah. Gambling is a bit like every chaos because some folks get lucky here and there, but scoring wins all the time is pretty tough. Casinos make bank because, overall, the odds are in their favor. Even if a few players hit the jackpot now and then, most end up losing. That's how casinos keep raking in profits and why there are more of them popping up. It's kind of a game where the house usually comes out on top.

It is difficult for gamblers to cause losses to the bookie because the bookie owns the business. Gamblers can only try to win by using their analysis to choose teams or players who can win. The problem is that gamblers try to win, so they become greedy, bet beyond their limits, and do not pay attention to their self-control. And if we talk about bettors who can get profits in the long term, it exists, but unfortunately, we will never know how many bettors can get it or which bettors can. And if the bookie limits gamblers who often win, that is normal because the bookie doesn't want to lose in too many games, even if it doesn't make the bookie completely bankrupt.

Winners will mostly hide their winnings from the public and will not share them with many people unless they are people close to the winning gambler. They must be able to protect their privacy from bad people who would do evil to them. They also have to avoid having their wallets or accounts hacked by hackers, so it would be better if they kept themselves hidden from the public.

Thanks for the answer, these are really good elements of the strategy. In general, this is similar to what I use in trading. I myself am far from betting, the topic is new to me. I'd like to try it, but only for research interest. I would say that there are general laws for all games in order not to lose money. Many of these rules are quite banal and I am surprised that some players do not apply them.
Here are just a few of these simple rules:
- Do not play with your entire capital, but only with a small amount. This way you will ensure that your capital will live for a long time.
- Always withdraw part of your profits.
- Increase your chances of winning in every way.
If you have the opportunity, insure yourself against failure. In trading, this can be done by diversifying into opposite assets or options... perhaps someone can tell you how this can be done in sports betting.
- Conduct thorough match research.
      I think everyone can add something.

A gambler wins once in a while in his life time but whether it is consistent is debatable. Just very few people have that consistency and probably in a month time not daily. We need to know it that it is difficult to keep a consistent winning streak but from time some fair winners get to hit the jackpot to pick up the money lost by losing gamblers. Casinos make more profit than the gamblers who patronize them and that is why we are having more casinos opening up.

In reality, there are many gamblers who bet only based on the odds given by the bookie, especially beginners who often make this mistake.
They think that the favorite team is always at the top with very big chance of winning and the key to their betting is that the favorite team is always at low odd and they continue to bet in this way for the long term, but all they get is defeat.
There are lots of matches that will pit superior teams against weaker teams and of course this will entice bettors to be able to risk their money by choosing the superior team, but they forget that in football matches there will be many surprises.
Moreover, predicting does not only mean predicting each team and getting what to bet on, but also predicting the risks and what betting options are truly appropriate to use.
Those novice gamblers always make mistakes and don't want to learn, they just make every bet carelessly and without any basic experience or knowledge because sports betting is not completely like casino games which only rely on luck so they can just guess and bet.

You have to learn from this experience and you have to increase your information and knowledge if you want to be able to bet well.

People who succeed in winning a lot of money from gambling can indeed get it, but the amount is not as much as people who lose. Even though they win a lot of money, they will not gamble at one casino too often. But they will go to other casinos to gamble. So when they win at one casino, they will not gamble for a while and return to gambling but not at the previous casino. They will gamble at other casinos, and they may not be able to win because this is gambling, and they will not always be able to win.

Having players win a lot of money at a certain casino will make other gamblers come to that casino because they think they can also get big wins. That has entered their subconscious and that is what makes them gamble at the casino because they want to be the next winner at the casino. But that won't always happen and when gamblers are emotionally triggered because they haven't won, they will continue to use their money to gamble because they still can't win a lot of money. And that will benefit the casino because there will be more gamblers like that.

It is a free world bro, that is why I do not like to be elaborating on some things so that people will not be seeing them as if they are too good to be true. This goes for my trading activities as well so that it will not be some kind of showoff. Well, I only try my best, it can't be easy and it is not all the time that success is being made. What is there is that I just try to discover my strength and weakness in gambling and I play safe as I bet. For example, casinos part of gambling has never been a winning avenue for me, I lose most times, and at time, it would be losses and winning to the extent that I would not have a distinct winning over a long period of time or even lose and redeposit the account. Only that I ensure that I do not deposit much into my casinos account because I know that I might only lose it. For this same reason, I bet with a small amount and I catch my fun most times, so I regard my casinos as a weakness and I try as much as possible to play smart and be careful with it.

But for sports betting, I see it as the fairest betting means that not even the house can manipulate (at least the ones I play), so I often give it a better shot and use a good amount to bet it. But still, I do not bet anyhow, I carefully select my bettings. The odds of 1.5 and above are good, but the highest I go for is less than 3 to avoid betting on the wrong side. I also bet only straight winning and if there are 100 games that I could bet in a day, I might only go for just 3. They would however be the carefully selected ones, not that I will just jump into it. All these are not even the strength of my betting idea, but the independent betting of my games, and I make sure that I only bet on straight winning, not the other ways that people will be betting on difficult conditions with disregard for the risks. By this, I can still be proud of 75% winning in average.

That's when you are actually IRL right? I don't think that it will affect the online players with the odds unless they do it per account right? It's going to be a weird thing to do if you see the odds given to different accounts be different.

Maybe gambling is mostly for that one-time big time payouts.

I know some of these names. They are described in Nate Silver's book. (Haralabos "Bob" Voulgaris). Well, perhaps they really are. But these are just a few dozen people in a million-dollar industry. Some of these names were likely either rich before betting, or betting was not a key factor in their wealth. When it comes to famous people who became famous not because of bets, then this is obvious to me.
     This is what is interesting to me. If at least some of these people got rich from sports betting and they earned significant sums, then it turns out that the successful players took this money away from the bookmaker companies? And here is a very important question: how did bookmaker companies allow players to take away their money? After all, it is well known that these companies have excellent risk management. And they have many tools to limit the player's profits. Up to account blocking.
     Or maybe these bookmakers are so rich that they can afford to lose millions?

Because sports betting is unlike normal gambling, that means we are going to see some people be able to do this. I am not saying that it's easy to do or anything like that, but I can say that it is not going to be that tough to handle this at all. It just means that you are going to have to work really hard and be also a bit lucky as well.

Even the ones that make money on the long term end up doing that very rarely because they do end up losing as well, so it is not really that common for a person to be staying at long term profit. I have seen plenty of people who bet on things that would be unlikely to hit, with a decent chunk, like thousands of dollars and they win sometimes, so that makes it worth for all the times they lost.

Spearing in the dark is the best way to lose money on sports betting. I mean, betting without you analyzing it is just absolute luck. Some gamblers have low odds with a large number of matches on parlay bets, which allows them to win large bets without caring about potential losses. They hope for luck, not victory.

I've definitely seen that kind of thing done by my colleagues who are famous for sports betting. He doesn't care at all which team is playing the match, he only cares about the odds and the probability of winning the parlay. He picks 13 to 15 games to parlay, which is crazy in my opinion.

Very true mate, that's on the aspect of the bookmakers trying to block your account if the winnings are too much and I say this because of an experience a friend of mine actually had on a particular local sportbet site. He found an interesting way to actually win on only this particular site and it was as if their system actually had some glitches because it was on a particular odd he kept following up although the odd isn't always found but whenever he see it he always play it with lots of cash atleast that's from what he told me but the real talk is that he won so big and frequently that the casino had to block his account for no reason reason claiming that he does cheat in his account to get those winnings which made me wonder how true is this because I now came to understand that the casino actually wants gamblers to actually lose on a steady.

Jahaha you are totally right. Wherever it is, if we walk blindly there will only be losses. Yes, this is an important lesson for me who often gambles on sports, especially football. After I experienced something ridiculous like that for a relatively long period of time, I changed my way of placing bets a little, looking for a little information and analysis of players as well as strategies for each club and player performance. This helps a little in my way of looking at odds and placing bets.

quick search for these popular sportsbettors that are already rich or at some point in their lives earned huge sum of money owed to sportsbetting will give you some popular names:
https://oddsmatrix.com/top-sports-bettors/?gad_source=1
- Parlay Patz > developed a moneyline parlay strategy
- Billy Walters > implemented Walter's computer modelling
- Tony Bloom > known as “The Lizzard” due to his cold-blooded approach to betting
- Steve Fezzik > “The best NFL sports betting tournament player in the world”
- So Money / Sonny Banks > has Twitter which gathers over 24,000 followers interested in his views and picks
- Bill Benter > known for “deep state” handicapping
- Zeljko Ranogajec > known for his horse-betting activities
- Marco D'Angelo > betting style is based on a percentage system
- Gadoon "Spanky" Kyrollos > use calculations and formulas to ensure his bets are sound
- Teddy "Covers" Sevransky > strategy involves identifying what he calls “morphing teams”
- Charles Barkley > known for limiting his wagers
- Haralabos "Bob" Voulgaris > betting in basketball and poker
- Jimmy Snyder > had been the host of “The NFL Today,” CBS’ Sunday morning show, bringing betting tips to live TV

Celebrity Sportsbettors
- Floyd Mayweather > betting on everything from college basketball to the NBA, the NFL, and boxing
- Michael Jordan
- Ashton Kutcher > bets mainly on college football and focuses on the games where he has all the data necessary to win
- 50 Cent > putting his money into boxing and American football
- Pete Rose > bet daily on football
- Charlie Sheen
- Wayne Rooney
- Brian "Birdman" Williams
- Charles Barkley

though we don't know if some of them become rich owed to sportsbetting, but they are popular names who are known to be sportsbettors and are rich on their own accord. some also gained their fortune from years of sports betting spanning decades of this activity.

i can add Drake on this list, as he is a known stake ambassador as well as a high roller betting huge amount of money, posting bets on his social media platform instagram

Betting blindly using odds as reference is just missing the point of playing on the sportsbook. Just simply place bet on dice game and set odds to your desired amount instead of having trouble on betting to sportsbook that has a much higher house edge if you will just bet based on odds.

If you will just rely on your luck then make sure to do it on low house edge games that will give extra boost on your winning chance rate. 

This seems more reasonable. And maybe I've had it, when a player is complacent and I feel that myself, I place bets only based on the odds displayed on the gambling site without looking at and analyzing the soccer team, even though there are some who lose, there are also those who win. However, if this is a matter of luck and in addition, this is just a guess in a football game, it is normal if the results do not match predictions, because on the field anything can happen.

There are certain long-term profitable sports bettors who have achieved success by disciplines, techniques, and of course, efficient bankroll management, even though a majority of bettors may not be continuously profitable.  Of course, there are many more obstacles in your way if you want to succeed in achieving your goal. In order to be successful when you bet, you should become familiar with each player and the flow of the game, keeping in mind that sports betting is unexpected and that there are certain doubtful games where the games you are betting on are being cheated.

It's likely that the bookies will place restrictions on your winnings, particularly if you win big amounts of money on a regular basis. This could be done to protect their profits. 

Maybe there are, but not many... and indeed casinos that don't behave fairly towards their customers may deliberately limit their customers' winnings, especially if the customers are skilled enough in analyzing and are able to make accurate predictions. accurate analysis results. Because a customer's win is a loss for the casino, and a customer's loss is a win for the casino, especially if the customer is addicted to gambling. For casinos, gambling is a business that must make a profit from this business, because they also have employees who must be paid every month, and there are taxes that they must pay every year, so that the casino can continue to run.

Therefore, apart from us having to continue to improve our abilities in betting or gambling... we also have to be smarter in understanding and choosing the casinos we will visit. And the most important thing is to play wisely, don't expect too much from gambling, because it's about probability.

Well yes. Not to brag but I can count myself as one of them but not earning as much as with big bettors. However, likewise with majority of gamblers, I suffered from loss on my early months in sports betting and a year and half with casino games. It was only lately when I realized that managing my bankroll would be better for a long run than to always seek for that jackpot win. I've said it before; chasing big wins will leave you with loss in the long run. Imagine winning 1/100betting sessions which won't be consistent and could take longer; you'll just be frustrated along the way which is the thing we should avoid as gamblers. Sports betting is different and is a better category in this industry 'coz analysis would change the odds of winning and losing unlike with pure luck gambling games, not to mention mor entertaining as well.
Only the gambler himself/herself would know if he's in 'gains' or loss. Also, not because you are profitable means you are winning most of the time; no consistency there is in gambling. No matter what gambling category we are spending our times with, luck will not always in accordance with our will and bets. It is no longer between the times you are winning over times you are losing but the ratio of your winnings and losses.

Usually bookies will fool gamblers by giving unreasonable odds and this is very effective in making gamblers make mistakes when choosing the team or player to bet on.
So far there are no various ways that gamblers can actually make bookies suffer massive losses unless there is luck factor that is on the gamblers side, there are also some things that are quite annoying, namely placing limits on gamblers who often win the bet.
Isn't this very unfortunate thing because bookmakers always use various methods to prevent gamblers from winning, but even so, I still believe that big bookmakers will never disappoint gamblers, especially loyal customers.

But you are right that no one will admit that they have carried out various betting activities that are often carried out, what more, for win they will always hide every win they get, apart from avoiding requests for tips and also to avoid bad things such as blackmail or robbery.
Moreover, there are many smart people like hackers who can break into the private wallets that we use.

There would really be a total mixed up on which we know that this market is really that composed by those losers and winners. There's no way that you could be able to determine on whose are
long time profitable gambler and whose really just that a total loser whose really that continuing on spending his money on doing gambling. This is why it is really that hard to tell on whose the one
is really that making money aside from seeing those stats but we know that it could be hidden or private but we do know that house itself does know on whose those players that they are making
money despite of having  those loses along the way. Just like been mentioned that they could be potentially be locked on their accounts because businesses like these
doesnt really like to those people who do keep on winning or simply just being profitable.

I think you are the only one in this thread who explicitly claims that he has been a profitable player for several years. The rest of the users just write uncleaned things. There are probably profitable long-term players, but I do not know them. Could you share some statistics about your winnings? How much do your winnings exceed your losses? During what period do you make a profit? Does your profit allow you to give up employment and live as if you were living as an employee?
Excuse me for my curiosity, it's just that such people are probably a big anomaly.
And another thing: I would like to ask users in this topic to name specific names, and not just "maybe they are, but I do not know them." There are profitable long-term games in poker. There you can name specific names.

Are there long-term profitable sports bettors?, I'm not sure and don't have the answer. because, I don't know how anyone is with their sports betting. we don't even have authentic data related to what you said in this thread. specifically, the claims made by a presenter said in this thread. I would also underline his statement, that he believes there are no long-term profitable plays in sports betting. I tried to think rationally, what the presenter meant. I mean, overall. because in gambling, especially sports, there are many options that we can do. if there is no ideal betting option for me, I will not have a betting session.

In addition, the presenter provides statements for other points. I ask again, what percentage of gamblers win compared to gamblers who lose? there is no need to even limit someone because of their winnings, because gradually someone will experience a phase where they will lose and this applies to gambling. then, why should a casino bother restricting every movement of its customers. especially, if the casino has a very trustworthy and credible reputation. and, wouldn't that have an impact on the big name they have built so far? back to what I said at the beginning, I can't answer that. because I gamble only with a limited bankroll within my means. so far, I have been betting on football for quite a long time. if you win you win, if you lose you lose. nothing limits me from betting even when I consistently win every bet I make. the question is, is there any validation provided by the presenter? or, this is just based on his opinion.

I haven't seen one in all my years that are profitable with their gambling habits so I wouldn't say that they're a lot of people but I can definitely see long-term players that have been in the sportsbetting game for a long time because they've profited out of that, what @Oshosondy said is a logical reason behind the reason why we are asking these questions, it's because they're so few in between that we haven't met one so we conclude they don't exist and the system of how gambling works is that the house wins more than the gamblers.

The reliance on rumors and media reports certainly adds an element of ambiguity. I'm curious, have you personally engaged in sports betting or gambling? Your insights on the distinction between skill-based and luck-based games are thought-provoking.

Do you believe there are effective strategies for consistent long-term profits in sports betting, especially when it comes to big matches?

I'd love to hear more about your experiences and opinions on this matter.

Actually, I don't know for sure about people who are said to be successful in their bets or always win in their bets because basically I only heard rumors from various media but I don't know for sure about that. But if indeed the casino limits gamblers who always win and reducing the opportunity, I think is quite impossible if it's sports betting, especially sports betting that requires skill, but if it's a luck-based game, I think the bookie can still regulate it by reducing the opportunity.

Many people think that sports betting can give us consistent and long-term profits, as I have read in threads on gambling discussions (if you wish, you can look for it). Indeed, we can still use sports betting with the skills we have if we bet on big matches, Sports bookies cannot control winnings because big matches definitely have a high reputation so we can still use gambling with long-term profits but we cannot fully expect the winnings or hope to win consistently and in the long term.

I say a capital YES to this and I am a typical example of it. If it is a casino, I would say I don't know, but for sports betting, this is very possible, only that most people are not good in some kind of proper betting style and they do not manage their betting and the account properly. Taking too much risk while betting is one of the reasons why bettors lose easily, they will try so hard but will continue to lose due to greed and lack of good plan. If you are betting on sports, there are some games you don't think of betting on, once the risk is too high, you do not waste your money on them unless you prepared to waste money or use a very small amount of money to try your luck.

My style is to be betting on straight winnings that are independent of each other. I might bet 5 games but they will be independent of each other. So that if one loses, it won't affect the others. Even if some would be dependent on each other, I make sure that it is either 2 games or 3 at most so that I will not painfully lose these games. The money to earn through this approach is not as high as the money people expect from the ones that are dependent of each other. But I can assure you that you win more regularly than them even if they are better forecaster than you, while most of them might not have a single winning for months.

They exist most likely. I mean if the issue is the bookmaker then just switch casinos really. And if someone can reliably support his gambling tendencies in the long run, I've no doubt switching would be that difficult in the first place.

But they're probably in the minority since really, "stable" is not a word I'd use to describe gamblers. They're more on the side of wanting to risk it all at once and win it all. Otherwise they'd be doing an 8hr job instead of gambling.

Theoretically someone can able to make profit trough betting on sports since the decision depends on us and as long as we're correctly guessing the result, we will make money. Most of the casinos prefer to limit your account instead of block your account, block an account seems too harsh.

There's no need to hack or become a gambling employee to win sports, everyone has a same chance. It's not slots or in house game if you know the hash, you will able to predict the outcome.

No bookmaker wants to experience losses by finding its gamblers winning too often. They will try to prevent these gamblers from winning more often, especially those who still win big often. If they only win with small wins, the bookmaker still allows them to keep betting. There are profitable players in sports betting. It's just that we don't know for sure because they also don't say that they are the lucky players. This is normal because they can keep betting on sports betting without anyone knowing about their winnings. Apart from that, they can also hide their identity from other people because if someone finds out, they will ask that person for tips.

The house always win (that's their specialty). Bookmakers want to earn. But does this mean there are no long-term profitable bettors? Not always. Consider a world where a small percentage of players use skill, discipline, and luck. They know the games, follow patterns, and are mathematicians rather than gamblers. You know, these unusual birds may be flying beneath the radar?

The gentleman who worked with the gamblers, he's seen the dark side, and his words carry weight. In this cutthroat industry, the house routinely cuts the wings of the high-flyers. But now I'm cautiously optimistic. Despite the bookies' toughness, sensible, responsible enjoyment is possible. Discipline and risk awareness are essential. Gambling should be about fun, not money. So, are there profitable players out there? Of crouse. But they are super hero in this story

There may be one but it is very hard to find them out there because I have seen lots of people whom we know to be gambler but are driving good cars and living well with their family's, and such person can never use a particular gambling site to place their bets because when a particular site or bookmaker often noticed that a particular account is regularly winning then they might began to place some restrictions on the account.


We also know that gambling is a luck based game and winning is not certain so even though there are people out there winning we should know it's not always constant maybe it could be ones per week or twice per month.

What would usually happen based on the cases that I've read so far is that the bookie would limit the gamblers allowed bet.
This gambler would try to find a workaround to bypass the limit and that includes creating other accounts.
More than one account is usually prohibited so the bookie blocks all accounts.

It's an indirect way of saying that the player is not welcome to bet anymore.

I can see some people saying that bookies will reduce the odd of someone that is winning. That is not true in my opinion. I can also see that they said they will block the account of the person that is always winning. Maybe that is true, but I do not know.

In reducing odds, it is not true because not that a gambler is the target. Bookies can see some people selecting what will not pay them, or that is not paying them, after they have noticed, they reduce the odd. Not only that they reduce the odd at times, they may also reduce the maximum amount of money that you can use to stake with the type of the selection, but I only noticed this on a gambling site before. It is also good to know that after the odd has been reduced and they see people winning than the amount they are gaining from that type of selection, then they will removed the section so that no one will be able to select and stake it again.

I am gambling but I lose more in sport betting than I gain. Among my friends that are gambling, we are all losing. I have not also seen anyone that is a sport gambler that won more than lost before. In your first paragraph, you mentioned casino. I think that is a mistake because this thread is about sport gamblers and they make use of bookies/bookmakers to gamble, not casinos.

maybe they are former gambling employees or maybe they are hackers but not sure if they really exist and I never knew them.

this story made me remember an experience from another person, a sports bettor trying to bet on soccer betting with the desire to win consistently and betting at small odds like @1.1 gradually and yes indeed he won consistently but in fact after a few days then his account was banned because it was deemed to have violated the rules.

It seems like the case is the same as what you said, that gambling will never like its customers who always win easily and I understand this case because gambling was developed to generate income for gambling owners, not to distribute money to their customers.
but I believe that there are gamblers out there who can make consistent profits from sports betting, it's just that they never teach or share how to get consistent wins but stay safe from banned.

It would be interesting to know what Stake would do if Drake suddenly starts winning consecutively. We know for a fact that he's no small time sports bettor so I wonder if he'll get limited or banned by any bookie. I doubt any of them would do it since he's popular and it's bad optics if they do.

There could be but of course they are not showing up and boasting about it and that is why I think that there are none or very few.I think so because sport betting has become the ever more difficult nowadays with referees impacting the game with their stupid decisions that even strong teams are having difficulties to win against weaker teams because of these facts.

Maybe in lower leagues,people who play lower leagues that no one cares about probably the referees have not the pressure that they have in elite leagues and most likely would make less errors.Overall though it is very difficult to win in sport betting and in every game that has the word betting after it.

Probably if they're the ones that are really good at that sports and they've got a keen eye on who's winning team to pick when betting then yes it's safe to say that there's potential that they can profit out of sports betting but the problem with betting is that it's still gambling so they're still going to be experiencing losses, there's some matches that have a low odds so it's likely they're going to lose money even if they bet on that team and that team won but they might be able to find some success with parlay betting if they want a more profitable long-term.

One ex-colleague went to an early retirement due to some health issues. I didn't see him for a while and I am not sure if he is still playing, but he was crazy. He was alone without family and he used to spend a lot of time in casinos gambling on all sports, and he was winning often... He used to buy drinks & snacks after some big wins,  and he had some crazy big wins.

I believe there are long-term profitable players, but some people don't like to share their gambling winnings for various reasons. I am not one of them, I have good streaks but after that, I have even longer bad streaks.

I hope I'm wrong there seems to be a topic with the same thread title even though it's not very similar, but I'll try to give my opinion due to my little experience in sports betting, it seems that not too many people win consistently at sports betting sometimes Sometimes there are several matches where the favored club loses to the unseeded club.

So in the long term, if he is a professional, it is possible to get long-term profits because there are also some cases where someone is restricted from betting on sports just because he keeps winning, so it is not surprising if there is a professional who is skilled at betting and often wins in the long term in betting. sports, but again everything depends on luck because luck is what determines the final result.

This isnt really just that applicable on sports betting but also into those luck players on casinos too on which account blockage and being restricted or facing up some unknown issues would really be just thrown off on which its true that gambling site owners wont really liking into those people who do have that good winning rate as these fellas would really be putting up a huge effect into their
business in terms of revenue. So it isnt really shocking that they would really be doing such step. In regarding on the question if there are those long term profitable sports bettors then they do surely
exist. It is really just that true that they might be restricted but we do all now that we do have tons of options on which a bettor could really be able to register.

I don't think so. In my opinion, any type of gambling is only suitable for the short term, otherwise gambling can be used as a main job for income. and some sports betting I think has unreasonable heights. where players who should lose are made to win either by paying the referee or the athlete himself. I think this technique is used in some cases of sports betting. I think it's better to make it safe by not using it too often because after all a lot of gambling is unfair. I'm just warning you to be careful not to forbid it.

I voted for a yes because I believe in it and I already experienced it during the EuroBasket. Long-term because I calculated everything when the tournament was finished and I saw I was in profit after it.
The sad part is, that I cannot feel it because I've used some of my winnings in playing casino games while waiting for another game. I mean, it gets boring if you are waiting for a day or more so I am urged to gamble at a different game.
But is there a profit long-term? Yes, there is especially if you know about the sport that you are betting on.
I love watching basketball so making a prediction is not too hard but there's no 100 percent accuracy in it because we cannot really tell how a game will end unless there are small leagues in which games can be rigged. All we can do is increase the chance of winning through analysis, avoid greed by taking the safest route, and read how the game can end. Not that easy because it requires knowledge but I believe long-term profits can be made once we get used to it.
I have not yet tried to compute my NBA results because it's too long, some say to make a spreadsheet but I am too lazy to do that.

Are we talking about online bookmaker alone because it’s very hard to become a long term profitable in online bookmaker because they will limit you once you’re winning frequently. They will consider you unprofitable players and will give you a ridiculous max bet or worst restricted to the casino because they have the right to do it.

You will notice that there’s a lot of case like this especially for those players that taking only value bets or arbitrage betting. They just keep changing casino once they are already restricted so that they can still play but in general no one can keep up in long term profit without being limited.

You can win in short run but in the long run, you can not be a winner against book makers because the house edge is on them. We see some investigations with engagements of sport players in matches they played and also bet in those matches.

They can do it for their benefit or with cooperations with book makers. Even they just do it for their benefits, no cooperations with book makers, as bettors, we can easily lose money in those matches with very shocked results. I only consider betting as entertainment only and nothing more than entertainment.

If I want to be rich, I will consider long term investment in cryptocurrency.

while I believe that in games that are only about luck (e.g. dice, roulette) there are no winners in the long run. The more you play, the closer your result is to the statistics, and the casino builds its games so that the statistical output is on its side. Opposite example is poker, which, in addition to luck, is also based on skill, and here there may be players who win in the long run, because here you play against other players, not against the casino, and statistically the chances are equal, so skill determines in the long run. It's similar with betting on sports. Here you also play against other bettors and the casino only deducts the fee. So if you know sports better than others, it is possible to win in the long run, and I do not believe that in sportsbetting, your winnings are bad for casino and they will block you, because you are beating against others and not the casino.

There are those who are good at what they do, but I don't see someone winning more often if they gamble, but there are possibilities for them to win more than they are losing when they are gambling with good tactics.
 
If one is winning all the time in a casino, there is a higher possibility that the casino will accuse him or her of something and just lock down his account. In some cases, he will be allowed to withdraw his balance, while in others, he will be completely locked out. This is the reason why I don't even like the idea of just focusing on and betting on one casino.
 
I like a situation where I use different casinos on different occasions, irrespective of the winnings. Most times the odds might be different, but it's not much of a difference, so playing and winning at different casinos won't create much awareness because casinos hate seeing who is winning from them more often; it looks like the person is using some cheating on them.

I still remember this thread which I used to follow since I first signed up on this forum:

CarlesPuyol Sports picks Thread - Hot Picks with review

The OP was posting picks almost every day and most of the picks led to wins. Although I never followed him nor took advice from their picks, I am sure they walked away with profits>losses.

What I never understood was why they suddenly stopped coming to the forum. Maybe they moved on the paid picks as per their last few comments on the thread.

In either case, the luck factor does weigh out the skills at some point and you will get burnt if you dont stop. It is gambling after all. So in the long term it is not going to profitable if you are always betting. If you are selling your picks but not playing then you will always profit.

It is normal that companies or bookmakers will start to reduce your odds or even block your account. The business owner does not want to see someone always win every time he bets, no matter how accurate his analysis is. I'm sure there are players like that, but I don't know whether their account has been blocked or they can still bet as usual. They don't want to show it to the public for privacy reasons and they also don't brag about it to others. Maybe it's best for them to have accounts at other casinos so they can split their bets across other casinos. If they win, they can win at some casinos.

Casinos are crazy for stopping a gambler from betting when they have hit a hot streak. Everyone knows the house always wins in the long run. Really I don't think a casino should be allowed to tell a person they can no longer gamble unless they're caught cheating, but that's not the way it is.

Are there long term sports bettors in profit? Probably a few scattered throughout the world, but I personally do not know any.

This is a good idea to avoid being limited so quickly. Not sure it matters online because i'm sure your stats are linked from each site somehow, but Live casino's I think this is a great idea.

I was once an avid casino gambler.  I spent days and nights in the casino playing roulette.  I was very lucky often.  And I remember how the casino employees looked at me after a series of big wins at roulette.  They looked at me appraisingly, trying to assess whether I represented a danger to the casino or not.  I did not pose a danger, since I made small money bets and did not win very large sums of money.  Representatives of casinos, bookmakers, etc., of course, keep track of the most successful players.  At the same time, the bookmaker is only interested in the profit of this office.  She is not against the player winning, she is against the player winning often and large sums of money.  Therefore, if a successful player wins constantly, but little by little, it is unlikely that they will be specifically punished by reducing the odds or blocking the account.  After all, he does not pose a danger to the bookmaker’s office.  Therefore, the main strategy of such a player is to win constantly, but little by little in monetary terms.  To do this, it is advisable for him to place bets not in one bookmaker’s office, but in several.

It's like there will still be special cases of some people who are considered to have made achievements in this field, but we can't really know where they are and how they achieved it. I can agree that any field will not be for the crowd, but people with skill and luck can get that success, even though I am not the player who gets it but credit otherwise everything is possible, even here you will find such people but do they want to come out to share what they have been through? It is unlikely that some services have statistics on the list of people with regular winning rates, but they may belong to those who have achieved profits in this game.

I will choose yes, but they are not just many. Most gamblers are losing and helping the gambling sites to earn more money.

People should keep in mind that most people that are gambling are losing, but there are exceptions. If there are no profitable gamblers, there won't be those that won huge amount of money and declares it to people.

For people that continue to gamble, people that gamble less often are likely to make money than people that gamble frequently. This is based on my personal experience.

I wanted to open a new discussion on this issue. I recently watched a video about gamblers. There was a presenter who helps gambling addicts get out of the dark streak in their lives. He worked in the bookmaking business for many years. He believes that there are no long-term profitable players in sports betting. This is impossible by definition. If you start to win often, the bookmaker company begins to cut your odds, either reduce your winnings or block your accounts. It's as if the bookmaker is telling you, "You're not here to get rich." The presenter claims that he does not know any profitable players over a period of several years. There are rumors that such players allegedly exist. But where are they and who saw them? What do you think? Are there profitable players in sports betting?