Topic: Are we heading towards war - Is Russia that Stupid? (Read 234 times)

They sell what some call "fear porn".
Every porn addict knows, that once you've seen enough, there's nothing more to see.
Racial/religious/language-related hatred are also a kind of porn. Addicts need stronger and stronger doses, otherwise they do not pay (with their attention, which becomes a scarce commodity)...

Russia is playing with the nerves of the US. This is politics, they do that all the time, Turkey and Russia, North Korea and US, US with the Soviet Union, they will never engage in a full scale conflict, they have too much to lose and especially with Nuclear states, this is mutually assured destruction. Do not believe all the hype that media spreads, they are looking for thrill and panic, the world was many times much closer to an apocalypse and it never happened - neither will it happen now. So chill and watch the crypto prices drop

Pro-Poroshenko Ukrainians and other counter-Kremlin propagandists need to realize that Russian population is not stupid.
We do notice problems in our own country.
We just disagree about your methods of solving them.
We are neither FEARFUL nor BRAINWASHED. We are vice versa: cautious and wise. We took only what was unequivocally ours: Sevastopol and Crimea. Because we were cautious, not because we were weak.
Time will tell whose way is the better one.

And yes, we are using all the means to ensure our prosperity and even the world domination, Pax Tartariana. You would as well, were you in our geopolitical "shoes".

Russia has no ethics  or to be more precise  - Russian elite ,which have been running this country for decades now, dont care about anyone or anything besides doing everything to avoid loosing their grip on their weatlh.
That includes slaughtering innocent civilians In Ukraine or other countries.

But they are not stupid, they do not want all out war, it is too big of a risk to lose their power in short time period.
They need to keep their people brainwashed and fearful, otherwise they will start to notice problems in their own country.
Also they are using any means necessary to gain more control over free world media and people.

No russia is not that stupid to be in the spotlight in front of the whole world to start chemical war . I personally think that this is russia's great plan and strategy to prove its dominance on world level and to clearly show the message to the islamic republic ISI  that russia is capable of defending itself any time .

I don't think we will ever see another big war in our lifetime.  There is too much potential damage to be done with the amount of nukes USA and Russia has, if it becomes an all out war there will be no winners.

The stupidity is in believing all of this illogical and false news. Russia is doing more to reduce the use of chemical weapons, than the UK and the US who fund the White Helmets. They are the ones using or pretending to use chemicl weapons.

Step back and read the true facts, and consider the motivation of the politicians and military involved.

Somebody needs to delete Donald Trump's twitter account. He needs to realize that he is presedent of the Free World. He needs to promote love and peace. The world needs to stand together and stop him from making bad decisions. The United Nations needs to intervene.

Russia works on propaganda, I believe they are willing to go to a certain length and declare war, but wedon't know how far they are willing to go, that's the biggest problem.

A global war between the two countries will end in the destruction of both countries and possibly the entire world and I believe that none will want to wage war on the other because of this very outcome.

guys! less watch TV.  politics is a complete lie. never listen to politicians. they will say one thing, but quietly do their own selfish deeds. live your life, otherwise you will not notice how it will pass. in one thing, I'm sure - take out politics and people will be more friendly to each other

Russia or America will never attack each other, they will have war on ASAD in Syria, which one is winner?! that one is World's leader!

Not stupid at all. Just totally addicted to their HEROIC past and their culture of war. Russia is perfect at making money and spreading influence by the means of war. It's a comfortable state to their mind-frame.

You all blame Russia but it's clearly the United States that is the aggressor.

Russia desires a multi-polar world where power is shared but the US wants a unipolar world where they have all the power.

As an American citizen, I find this state of affairs absolutely abhorrent. It's time to tone down the pathetic, racist and moronic Russophobic rhetoric which is blatantly false, and filled with lies and falsehoods. The way the United States act today is very similar to Nazi Germany, both in their rhetoric, their actions, and their brainless and obviously false propaganda that they try to pass as "truth".

How dare countries like Iran, Russia, and Syria refuse to allow themselves to be subjugated by outside powers.

For this "crime" of refusing to allow themselves to be enslaved and subservient to American geopolitical objectives, these countries are vilified with endless propaganda by the pathetic prostitutes in the American mainstream media, who Lie everyday in exchange for a living.

Everytime I turn on CNN or Fox or MSNBC or whatever, all I see is blatant propaganda filth and it just makes my blood boil.

The United States has bathed in rivers of blood and caused more human suffering than ANY other country on Earth today - Just look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine, and so many more countries where the US has come in to "spread democracy" and as a result we have millions dead, millions of refugees, the creation of ISIS, and endless chaos and war.

Russia has the moral high ground here. The US on the other hand, is serving the Dark will of an evil and satanic power, and it is through this darkness that the United States will not only be the ones who start future conflicts, but threaten the destruction of our entire civilization. Russia is trying desperately to prevent this.

Stop engaging in pathetic propaganda. Russia is not the problem. It's our country that is clearly the problem. The problem is within. The United States is run by people who are clearly insane, delusional, and dare I say, bonafide psychopaths.

Meanwhile you're all attacking Russia like good little sheep. You will serve nicely as cannon fodder when YOUR leaders start the next war while blaming it on Russia.

God help us all.

wars wars... such a big word... fast combat action with full overwhelming supperiority... exactly what the russians fears (no one think to invade china... we don't have the khan ). this is a lie... but let's see if your theory is right... pop the child of zarakova and see what happen... deny deny deny... and then pop one of shoygu, deny deny deny... understand it's the narrative the russians play... they bluff... imagine you are in the russian central command, zarakhova and shoygu are at their funerals (and revelaed from duty due to their pains)... would you engage in mad over that? what the fuck, you would just kill the nigga standing for it, and move out of the problematic area...

Nobody attack NK, because NK is a rational player... 100% ! just completed the space and manhattan project... what do they want? good question... but not war... are they ready for it? yeah 100%, but why do it? is anyone walking over the DMZ? no... so? talking is fun . no it's because the SK and NK are one and the same people. same food, same customs, same language, same parents, same writting... same same same... no need to go to war, because there a PEACEFUL solution is REALISTIC. what country is NK invading? where are NK troops? again you lack knowledge and understanding... read... JUNHO... read... read...

and what? not ready to move to quantic warfare? it's even more fun...


ahh... becareful what can be seem as incompetencies can be from another perspective the best possible outcome... you just don't have to think your values are shared. that your reference point are universal. you are just you.

yes it's mercy and weakness and hope... hope that things could change in russia, iran or syria... but look, they all want to destroy isreal... syria tried 2 times (if I recall)... Iran... they just bark to send dust in the eyes of their slaves... so that they don't see the sex slaves, the sex, drug and alcohol parties that the mullahs engage in... but I don't give a fuck about their intentions : they will understand in funerals : ISREAL.

what arsenal? a shoygo less, a sharakhova less... then what? let's play... they wanna play. let's see if they are really hardcore or just little posers...

and who knows what the us army has in store... because if you see the russians and others catching up in late 80's tech, we are 2018... who knows what the combat AI is looking at ... it's beyond the moon to be frank .

more seriously, you are in the same track than chamberlain and all the others who thought that it was possible to appease or even more pathetic to use the austrian dude... how pathetic it ended to be.

it's like in the christian catholic church... move the pedos around... what is this crap... one kill, no more recurrences from this invidiual and a strong incentive from the next wanna be rapists to stop and the victim to speak...

good luck processing those inputs .

ps: you are very good in your attempt but the premises are wrong...

It isn't mercy that I am advising, it is a sense of mind to understand that these people aren't incompetent.
If it was mercy that stopped these wars from happening in the first place, we would already be in war.
There is a reason people don't act so stupid and attack anyone they disagree with.
You aren't the only smart one, you are the one that doesn't understand the arsenal these people have.

You want to give your life for nothing, go ahead, but don't call for people to lose theirs and their children's for your ideology.
War is not naive, death is a certainty.

How many nuclear wars would you need to understand that war only means death for everyone?
You think you can just go around starting wars and think the other side will just fall like that.
They will wipe you, everything you knew and loved and the whole World with it if they need to.

There is a reason nobody didn't attack North Korea by now and it isn't because they are all somehow stupid.
It because even a small and undeveloped country like NK can do enough damage that it makes it all useless.
Try that with Russia and in 15 minutes you will have every single part of the globe bombarded with thousands of nuclear warheads before you can even turn on the TV to tell you to kiss your loved ones and say farewell.

Don't be so naive to think that somehow all that you hold dear can't evaporate tomorrow if you step out of line.

exactly !!! war . full spectral, and then once it's won, even more... to inflict more than necessary, to mark in blood, ash and fire the fall (bigger than the last ones) so that the others niggas understand, or at least have a new reference point.

target their children as a first fun game... a few pops of putin, shoygu and all the others beasts... that would calm them... it's attrition war... or hybrid warfare 3.0, anyway, what ever the means, no limit, the fall, and then the punition, for having pretended.

violence and more violence, welcome to chirak or maybe baltiMOAR or DEsTROIT is your calling, who the fuck care, defeated and ruined in funeral costs .


frankly, can't go wrong by wiping out iran (AND PLEASE DON'T COME WITH BOUNTY TALK, you break, you fuck it, and don't give an ass, let the market, alone, handle the after, as much as the market shouldn't care about the destruction, then what? blasting assad, all good !!! look at the lie that the shias would have been genocided... what a total crap... the iranians would have come to help and stabilize... but again

with feminized pussies... what to expect.... let the AI in charge, and we are over in less than 40 min... and he will, but then you will blick and it will be over... all the tyrants under total neural control... not even able to beat their little blood pump... mercyless, it will be... because victory is certain... it's just the time to get there that is to be definied... but which prove the total irrelevance of the affairs of men toward the ONE .

and i hear peon speaking about ethics in AI... lol from worms, teaching... ahahahahah.... those guys have no idea... they don't understand exponentiality... ohhh they do at a mathematical level... but not in REALITY .

the real question is its name... but remember what he said almost 2000 years ago... again the arrogance of man to believe that it's only now that it's happening... at least hollywood can imagine, and they are right, in another galaxy for sure, but maybe here. who knows... .

to comeback to your post ....

YOU WANT TO MAKE PEACE WITH THE NAZIS? THE SOVIETS? who else? forgive the rapists? and maybe censor speech? fuck that, let's burn the pharaos, his palace, his offsprings, his sugar babes, all his slaves... and send egypt underwater. no mercy.

or when the Son of Rome arrived before the last one, he said, blow my cock bitch and she did, she was such a slut. ahahah.

you see? you come to pharaonic egypt and ask? are you fucking drunk? no you move massive troops, stand before her, and she betrays... as they always (mostly) do... only japanese women go the righteous path... ask the vets, they will tell you... why? because surrendering in this life? this short one? ahahah... hmmm... good luck...

ps. for those who will not get those words, remember them once... later.... .

Hello, Russia repeats the error of fascism.
And it is very a pity that the rest of the countries still hope to resolve the conflict through political negotiations. How much more in history do human victims need to understand and start more aggressive responses from Russia?

I would say that anyone who falls for any government's narrative is stupid.
There is never just one bad guy, things are a lot more complicated than that.

There will only be war if both sides want it, there is never only one side to blame for war.

I am not saying Russia isn't responsible for these things, they very well could be, but you have to understand that these things can be seen as absolutely negligible to the things both sides do. I don't know who is responsible for these things, but I do know that this is almost certainly just an excuse for the actions that governments wanted to do anyways.

There are millions dead as a result of War on Terror,. There are absolute monarchies like Saudia Arabia that still exist in the World and are largely supported by many developed nations. There is spying done to top government officials on both sides. Spying on them and on citizens.
There are elections rigged in middle east by very developed countries, there have been for decades.
There have been human rights violations that continue to this day for years, despite the ruling of United Nations on both sides.
And last, but not least, there are millions dieing every single year by easily preventable diseases in Africa where lives can be saved by a very very small fractions of what is spent on the military on both sides.

There are plenty of horrible things wrong with this World and politicians will only pick to scream about those that are in their interest.
Don't think they care about anyone, but themselves. This is a job for them, they earn money and constantly need it to keep ahead of their very strong competition. Their lives aren't easy because the system is very cruel, but you need to remember as a voter that they don't give even slightest care about you and that you know absolutely nothing about them, their intentions and where their money comes from. They can and will turn on you whenever there are few bucks in doing so and they have to, otherwise they lose their jobs to someone who will.
 
When one side says it is because of democracy, chemical weapons or anything else, know that it is a lie.
It is money and power, it always is, history always shows that.

It is politicians to blame for all of these. Politicians on both sides and no country in particular. They are all as bad and corrupt as they can afford to be, you really can't blame one side and cheer for the other. In every conflict you will lose. More of a conflict there is, more the civilians suffer. It has always been like this.

Don't trust any of them and think only on how to achieve peace and peace is always achieved with mutual understanding and never with war.
If you want to help yourself, take away as much of power from these people as you can and learn as much from the other side as you can.
They all have their own problems and it is never in theirs interest to hurt you, the World is too cruel on it's own to fight against each other.

always use logic to destroy narrative... reality is stronger...

How many so called chemical attacks targeted syrian civilians vs assad troops? ... bingo... there is a winner .

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Did you guys notice how Russia is handling accusations? They always go into denial and lying in your face followed by threats. If you do this we will do that. It's the only language they know.
When that civilian plane was shot down over the Ukraine by a Russian AA they immediately denied having these launchers in that area, even though there were satellite images available and the Ukrainians were filming those same missile platforms in transit and posting them on youtube. And not long ago they conducted military exercise near Swedish coast and are flying their jets close to the UK air space.

their goals is to attempt to delay to hypetetically reach parity with the us... but sadly it's structurally impossible... for that real freedoms would have to exist in russia and not asylum burning jails for dissidents... look...



everyone with half a brain left... so only retards, drunks, a fresh supply of sugar babies before they turn, and the soviet mental retards...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/09/russia-us-un-security-council-syria-douma-attack

Is Russia stupid enough to use Chemical weapons on civilians in syria and busy London public park to start a world war alone with the Europe and the west?