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October 16, 2017, 04:58:03 PM
#40
We could be 100% generated artificial "intelligence"... and could be living in a simulation made by some alien student. What if that student lives in a simulation too...  Huh
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October 16, 2017, 02:23:50 PM
#39
No we are not. But obviously get out if were.

But what if your existence is only possible within the simulation?

It may not be like the Matrix. If it is like the Matrix I agree, get out.
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October 13, 2017, 02:18:45 PM
#38
Are we living in a computer simulation and if you found out somehow that indeed we are would you get out or stay in simulation?Reasons for both.
You do not know whats out there when you get out only that you can end this simulation.What are your thoughts on these subject?
I would get out because i would have a feeling that all of this is a lie, therefore, no reasons to stay here.

yes man that is what I feel too
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October 13, 2017, 01:20:10 PM
#37
It's an interesting question--perhaps it was popularized by that movie The Matrix.  My problem with that movie is that, with all the energy in the universe, why would some advanced robotic species waste time enslaving humans for their energy, which likely wouldn't even power the very simulation they participate in.  The universe is full of suns which are far more efficient to harvest energy from.

As far as the simulation theory goes, my thoughts are this: if there's no evidence of it, then it's unwise to assume it's occurring anyway.  How does one show that this is a simulation?--we would need to be able to enter the "real world", and be able to view the simulation from outside of the simulation.  We would also need to be able to be certain that this experience of exiting the simulation into the real world was actually occurring, but there's limits to what the human experience can guarantee (empiricism gets us only so far.)  If we "break" the simulation from the inside, we could also just as well assume that we can break the real world.  Anything which occurs in the "simulation" can just as easily be attributed to occurring in reality.  Why limit yourself to one simulation?  Why not have every human being in existence be in their own simulation which combines into a supersimulation that we experience together.  Again, no evidence of this occurring.  What if, outside of the simulation, we're all brains in jars?  No evidence of this occurring.  What if we're all actually just souls lost in limbo and this is all a hallucination of post-death?  No evidence.  What if there's an tentacled alien demigod somewhere in another dimension who is having a multi-billion year long dream about our universe and that's what our existence is?  No evidence.

It's the same as questions for the tooth fairy and santa clause: we can make up as many reasons as we'd like as to why anything is happening, but if we can't actually experience the evidence of it, then we must assume it's not real.

Nice nice, interesting thoughts my friend Smiley There are a lot of things we do not have evidence of but yet we still believe in it.
Sometimes it's just about feeling something and the things that happen around you.Ok, of course, you cant be certain 100% because you feel something like that etc.
I just say you cant be sure in something you don't know.Evidence, a strange thing for some things in life Wink Who knows what happens when we die...if we truly die Grin
And that tentacled alien demigod, i hope he will not wake up Cheesy
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October 13, 2017, 09:39:30 AM
#36
No, we live too really do any step and you will see different events
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October 13, 2017, 09:16:32 AM
#35
Neil deGrasse Tyson has interesting thoughts about this
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October 10, 2017, 12:54:54 AM
#34
No we are not. But obviously get out if were.
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October 09, 2017, 09:03:07 PM
#33
Iam living in computer situasion
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October 09, 2017, 07:14:09 PM
#32
This is much of a thought for a human because everyone chooses the life they wants, they do decision base on their own thinking and ideas so i do not believe we live in a simulation because we have a freedom to do everything we want.
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October 09, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
#31
It's an interesting question--perhaps it was popularized by that movie The Matrix.  My problem with that movie is that, with all the energy in the universe, why would some advanced robotic species waste time enslaving humans for their energy, which likely wouldn't even power the very simulation they participate in.  The universe is full of suns which are far more efficient to harvest energy from.

As far as the simulation theory goes, my thoughts are this: if there's no evidence of it, then it's unwise to assume it's occurring anyway.  How does one show that this is a simulation?--we would need to be able to enter the "real world", and be able to view the simulation from outside of the simulation.  We would also need to be able to be certain that this experience of exiting the simulation into the real world was actually occurring, but there's limits to what the human experience can guarantee (empiricism gets us only so far.)  If we "break" the simulation from the inside, we could also just as well assume that we can break the real world.  Anything which occurs in the "simulation" can just as easily be attributed to occurring in reality.  Why limit yourself to one simulation?  Why not have every human being in existence be in their own simulation which combines into a supersimulation that we experience together.  Again, no evidence of this occurring.  What if, outside of the simulation, we're all brains in jars?  No evidence of this occurring.  What if we're all actually just souls lost in limbo and this is all a hallucination of post-death?  No evidence.  What if there's an tentacled alien demigod somewhere in another dimension who is having a multi-billion year long dream about our universe and that's what our existence is?  No evidence.

It's the same as questions for the tooth fairy and santa clause: we can make up as many reasons as we'd like as to why anything is happening, but if we can't actually experience the evidence of it, then we must assume it's not real.
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October 09, 2017, 04:50:06 PM
#30
Here is a nice introduction to the simulation hypothesis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlTKTTt47WE
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October 09, 2017, 04:38:28 PM
#29
this is like one of those questions people ask after Burningman  Cheesy
rly it's not a simulation, people just started to develop AR/VR technologies (it would be weird to create VR technologies inside VR world Wink), but I'm sure it could be a case soon... VR is a very promising industry now..
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October 09, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
#28
50/50 imo
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BYTZ
October 09, 2017, 03:30:05 PM
#27
Whether a simulation or not, we are not playing it very well on the whole, perhaps we are a mirrored 'species' on this planet, as well as others, being tested by a higher being, this unstable region of the galaxy could be a piece in a vacuum jar, of sorts, of course nobody can really know, can they?
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October 09, 2017, 10:40:10 AM
#26
Elon Musk: one a billion chance...

It doesn't matter.

Enjoy every moment.
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October 09, 2017, 09:59:56 AM
#25
No we are not in a simulation... we are not in the matrix either.... you've been watching too much the Matrix Trilogy bro  Grin

Haha no, it's not because of the movie bro Cheesy It's just that i have been open-minded and thinking out of the box for a moment Grin
What do you think then, created by God?What is our purpose here on earth? Smiley
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October 08, 2017, 12:14:05 PM
#24
There are some videos about evolution of gaming. You can see that in period of 40 years, computer games traveled the path from 100x100 pixels on screen to photo-realistic images rendered in real time, in complex game world (simulation), with many players playing simultaneously. Now, can you imagine the those games in 200 years from now! (If we don't kill each other first of course.) What would they look like?

It is quite possible that we are living in a simulation. However, i don't think we will be able to prove it, unless the guys running this simulation wants it to be provable. Maybe they put some rules and a goal to figure which civilization (yes, there are most likely others on different planets too) will discover the truth about simulations or even escape own simulation or move to the other (multiverse?).

Those guys, simulation owners and creators, would probably be the closes thing to gods from human religions.
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October 08, 2017, 11:09:59 AM
#23
No, we are not. There are simply too many controlled variables and there are things that couldn't be considered coincidences like how plants produce oxygen and we breathe out CO2 or how out of all the 8 planets in the solar system, earth is the only one on the habitable zone.

What you are implying is the ''rare earth hypothesis''... Please check:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/01/the-rare-earth-theory-logic-and-math-says-were-not-alone-in-universe.html
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October 08, 2017, 10:52:16 AM
#22
No, we are not. There are simply too many controlled variables and there are things that couldn't be considered coincidences like how plants produce oxygen and we breathe out CO2 or how out of all the 8 planets in the solar system, earth is the only one on the habitable zone.
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October 08, 2017, 10:51:18 AM
#21
If you are interested in this concept of a simulation, I recommed this book:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation_City

Also, assume we are indeed in a simulation. This simulation could arise naturally from a primordial universe without the need of a ''programmer'' or advance civilization producing the simulation.
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October 08, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
#20
No one could really ever prove it.  If a type 3 advanced civilization wanted to run simulations like this, they could easily do it.
I've seen videos of supposed "errors " in the matrix where things look glithy in real lif
What kind of glitches do you mean? You've encountered them  Tongue ?
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October 08, 2017, 08:48:05 AM
#19
There is a high probability it is a simulation. Nature scientists speculate about this, because there are some mistakes in our world, for example light speed isn`t infinetely. So in a real world synchronisity would be really synchron, but in our world it isn`t, it`s just fake synchronisity. I read this in an article in a science magacine and there were more examples like this for mistakes in our world and they have all in common to save lots of computing-power when simulating a world, like cheap tricks in game-programming.
Also our world is made of information. If you go deeper and deeper, matter doesn`t really exist, the only thing you will find is a possibility-field with the information that there should be matter. Just information.
And if we will have the computing-power to simulate a world, we will do it. AI-creatures in that world will not know that it is a simulation and if they evolve, they also will create a simulation of their world.
How high is the probability that we are the first ones who do this? It`s very very small.  Wink
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October 08, 2017, 07:48:54 AM
#18
No we are not in a simulation... we are not in the matrix either.... you've been watching too much the Matrix Trilogy bro  Grin
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October 08, 2017, 07:41:06 AM
#17
It have been suggested by people who uses computers, so it is just another antropomorphism. And even it it would be so, it would be irrelevant.

Well...you need to get the idea from somewhere Grin There has to be a spark from something.
It is suggested by them maybe but a lot of other people, who are not heavy computer users, are thinking of that simulation theory too.
Not saying its 100% true but still thinking of it.
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October 07, 2017, 10:54:27 PM
#16
Maybe i hope no i love my son and if is a simulation is the best ever i love my life
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October 07, 2017, 04:49:02 PM
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It have been suggested by people who uses computers, so it is just another antropomorphism. And even it it would be so, it would be irrelevant.
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October 06, 2017, 11:48:00 PM
#14
sounds more healthy than some religious theories to me
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October 06, 2017, 07:35:24 PM
#13
No one could really ever prove it.  If a type 3 advanced civilization wanted to run simulations like this, they could easily do it.

I've seen videos of supposed "errors " in the matrix where things look glithy in real lif
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October 06, 2017, 06:36:29 PM
#12
No, we don't. While our life here on earth is fleeting, it is to prepare us and mold our characters for something far greater. Our freedom to choose through the gift of self awareness and self will proves that we are not automata with no self identity.
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October 06, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
#11
Yes there are a chance, that all brains are connected to one super information block chain.
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October 06, 2017, 03:03:24 PM
#10
That topic reminded me the Rick and Morty episode which they were in a simulation  Grin And my answer is: NO. We are not in a simulation.

I love Rick and Morty, that episode reminded me too of this topic so i decided to share that here and to see what theories are out there Smiley
Why are you so sure about that? Grin
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October 06, 2017, 02:54:10 PM
#9
We may never know. We don't know where our universe lies and we are not cable of knowing about our entire galaxy yet.
We can be living in the dust particle of a flying ball which when hits the ground, everything collapses.

Ok but maybe we never will know because we are in a simulation and therefore we would be somehow blocked to find out.
Or if we somehow manage to do that our world and everything we know will collapse as you said.This theory, it's one mean brain burner Grin
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October 06, 2017, 12:19:14 PM
#8
no bro although it is really a simulation but it is as real and right as it should be Wink
check here for thesis of ultimate reality https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22597112

hi everybody, check this post carefully to understand ultimate reality of universe, soon this research paper will be out for world to see
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October 06, 2017, 11:47:21 AM
#7
Out of all the crazy theory out there, this one sticks in my brain, or the subroutine that is my brain.

No matter if we are or aren't, going on as usual seems to be the only play.
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October 06, 2017, 11:35:40 AM
#6
That topic reminded me the Rick and Morty episode which they were in a simulation  Grin And my answer is: NO. We are not in a simulation.
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October 06, 2017, 11:28:13 AM
#5
We may never know. We don't know where our universe lies and we are not cable of knowing about our entire galaxy yet.
We can be living in the dust particle of a flying ball which when hits the ground, everything collapses.
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October 06, 2017, 09:47:57 AM
#4
we do not live in the other direction in not ordinary world, though the world of course and hell
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October 06, 2017, 09:44:58 AM
#3
There are many people who truly believe that we're living in a simulation.
Maybe the most famous of them is African entrepreneur Elon Musk.

Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0KHiiTtt4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZgBcRhGPqs
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October 06, 2017, 09:40:31 AM
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no bro although it is really a simulation but it is as real and right as it should be Wink
check here for thesis of ultimate reality https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22597112
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October 06, 2017, 05:58:49 AM
#1
Are we living in a computer simulation and if you found out somehow that indeed we are would you get out or stay in simulation?Reasons for both.
You do not know whats out there when you get out only that you can end this simulation.What are your thoughts on these subject?
I would get out because i would have a feeling that all of this is a lie, therefore, no reasons to stay here.
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