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legendary
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August 15, 2021, 01:45:30 AM
#55
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I have not seen any serious side effects
ohh the irony

The irony of what? not being dead after getting vaccinated, or not being medically impared after getting one.  Pick one

Naw. He's blind from he vaxx.     Cool

And again, where did that come from?

Are you somehow reading something else, I personally recommend you to get a mental health professional, cause you are a case they don't want to miss

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hooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  Cheesy
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August 11, 2021, 09:19:23 AM
#54

Yes.
See no reason to deal, get shot at with something slapped togther in 3 hours. It's not a birthday cake for the dog we talk about.
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legendary
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August 08, 2021, 11:38:16 AM
#53
I shouldn't say it here because it's a shame but no I have to admit that I'm not anymore a healthy unvaccinated person. And the pain is not only physical, it's mostly psychological. Because yes I let myself be raped like a coward to get a green pass now mandatory in my country. I feel like an Untermensch.

These days no one is healthy. Those who are vaccinated and those who are not, both of them are psychological sick.

I wonder when we will be able to overcome this covid pandemic. Its almost 2 years and no sign of recovery  Sad

You will overcome the disease when you start taking 30,000 to 50,000 units of vitamin D daily. But if you get Covid, Ivermctin will clean you up in a few days.

If you put 500,000 miles on your car, you can expect that it is just about dead in loads of ways. Changing the spark plugs won't heal it. Same with people. If they run themselves down so badly that they are beyond help, Ivermectin, vD, vC + zinc, or anything else won't help them. They are simply dead.

Look at what Matthew 1:1,2 says:
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1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.

Why did the Spirit lead Jesus into the wilderness. Several reasons. But one of them was to protect Him from His weakened immune system (40-day fast), where He could have been infected by diseases that other people had. It was a lockdown for good reason, unlike the Covid lockdowns of today where vD is readily available.

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August 08, 2021, 05:07:31 AM
#52
I shouldn't say it here because it's a shame but no I have to admit that I'm not anymore a healthy unvaccinated person. And the pain is not only physical, it's mostly psychological. Because yes I let myself be raped like a coward to get a green pass now mandatory in my country. I feel like an Untermensch.

These days no one is healthy. Those who are vaccinated and those who are not, both of them are psychological sick.

I wonder when we will be able to overcome this covid pandemic. Its almost 2 years and no sign of recovery  Sad
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August 08, 2021, 02:22:21 AM
#51
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I have not seen any serious side effects
ohh the irony

The irony of what? not being dead after getting vaccinated, or not being medically impared after getting one.  Pick one

Naw. He's blind from he vaxx.     Cool

And again, where did that come from?

Are you somehow reading something else, I personally recommend you to get a mental health professional, cause you are a case they don't want to miss
legendary
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August 08, 2021, 02:03:10 AM
#50
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I have not seen any serious side effects
ohh the irony

The irony of what? not being dead after getting vaccinated, or not being medically impared after getting one.  Pick one

Naw. He's blind from he vaxx.     Cool
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August 08, 2021, 12:52:10 AM
#49
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I have not seen any serious side effects
ohh the irony

The irony of what? not being dead after getting vaccinated, or not being medically impared after getting one.  Pick one
legendary
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August 07, 2021, 11:40:25 PM
#48
The reality of it is that there are NO healthy VACCINATED people.


Doctors share THEIR OWN vaccine injury horror stories, revealing that vaccines are devastating...



One doctor expressed concerns about how low-risk, healthy adults are being pressured by the government and the media to get "vaccinated" for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19). Children and even babies are also now being pressured as well.

Another linked to the Health Resources & Services Administration website, which contains information for people who have suffered vaccine injuries to apply for compensation through the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program.

Entry after entry tells of how vaccines of all kinds, including the ones launched by Donald Trump under "Operation Warp Speed," are damaging people's bodies and in some cases killing them.

The medical establishment would rather us all believe that such incidents are "rare," but the truth is that they are much more common than people think. The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) only captures maybe one percent of all injuries and deaths caused by vaccines, which means the figures are much, much higher than what the government is reporting.

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Hospitals are being overrun with vaccinated patients suffering cardiac events

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sr. member
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August 07, 2021, 11:26:30 PM
#47
I shouldn't say it here because it's a shame but no I have to admit that I'm not anymore a healthy unvaccinated person. And the pain is not only physical, it's mostly psychological. Because yes I let myself be raped like a coward to get a green pass now mandatory in my country. I feel like an Untermensch.

No such thing as mandatory for something which is not approved.
To this day no vaccine is approved all only have "emergency authorization" to be used aka tested on  voluntary participant  (ticked into)
As covid vaccines are patented at some stage owner of patent at some stage will recoup some of his investments.
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legendary
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August 07, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
#46
I shouldn't say it here because it's a shame but no I have to admit that I'm not anymore a healthy unvaccinated person. And the pain is not only physical, it's mostly psychological. Because yes I let myself be raped like a coward to get a green pass now mandatory in my country. I feel like an Untermensch.
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August 07, 2021, 03:15:44 PM
#45
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I have not seen any serious side effects
ohh the irony
legendary
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August 07, 2021, 02:27:06 PM
#44
is there anything we can trust about Covid and the Covid story?

to this day I don't know the origin of covid, but it makes sense not to know if we take into account that the Chinese would never give any true information if covid had started in china, but the virus is real and it is killing many people, this is an undeniable fact . only a madman in urgent need of psychiatric treatment would say that covid does not exist. I want to believe that there is no one on this forum who has not seen a relative, a friend, a neighbor who has not have a covid or who has not died of a covid. Vaccines are the only way to save everyone, and of course masks and social distancing are also the only ways to prevent

I live in Venezuela, I stay healthy as much as I can. I follow the health controls strictly, I have not yet been vaccinated.
According to Our World in Data, from the University of Oxford, my country among those in Latin America is the one that has vaccinated the population the least due to several factors, but the lack of coordination is what I think is the cause.
In the country, the vaccines Sinopharm (China), Sputnik V (Russia) and Abdala (Cuba) are being administered to immunize the Venezuelan population.
I can share the experience of my sister who lives in another state far from where I reside that she received the Sinopharm vaccine and the effects that she received were very mild.

in my country the vaccination process is also starting to speed up, some of my relatives have already been vaccinated and I have not seen any serious side effects
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August 06, 2021, 01:12:30 AM
#43
What a load of tosh. I don't think there is any doubt that the virus exists.

If you count a chemical graphene oxide attack a virus then yes.
Biological two courts of law (Canada and Ireland) fail to proof it does exist.
Cognitive dissonance much
legendary
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August 05, 2021, 05:14:43 PM
#42
What a load of tosh. I don't think there is any doubt that the virus exists.

What is the virus? Is it something that fits virus description, so that it can be isolated by Koch's or Rivers' Postulates? Or is it something created and manipulated in the lab? Since we don't have the video or lab notebooks with the isolator standing behind his/her Koch's or Rivers' work, and we DO have evidence of virus manufacture, is there anything we can trust about Covid and the Covid story?

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August 05, 2021, 03:31:14 PM
#41
What a load of tosh. I don't think there is any doubt that the virus exists.
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August 05, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
#40
The vaccine concept is that the immune system is encouraged to create antibody and "T" cell responses in advance of infection to protect against a viral overload in the case of infection. Viral overloads are created by wearing masks, staying in unventilated rooms, as well as exposure to large numbers of infected people when you cannot expel the virus through your normal first line protection. Having a weakened immune system will also slow your ability to respond to infection. Vaccines weaken you immune system, and this is why vaccine victims are having to have the so-called booster shots. Rather than being vaccinated, you should follow the simple, and free, methods of boosting your natural immunity. These are listed in many threads in this forum.
This depends on the vaccine because not all vaccines reduce your immune system and a lot of vaccines only reduce your immune system for a short time. I can prove this from a harvard study https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/can-the-flu-shot-hurt-my-immune-response

They found that the vaccine did not weaken the immune system with booster shots you are providing false information. The reason I have not included a link to research about the Covid booster shots is because they have not been studied yet your claims are not based on any factual evidence.
Factual evidence is that no virus exist
Who is paying you to provide false information?
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August 05, 2021, 01:02:58 PM
#39
The vaccine concept is that the immune system is encouraged to create antibody and "T" cell responses in advance of infection to protect against a viral overload in the case of infection. Viral overloads are created by wearing masks, staying in unventilated rooms, as well as exposure to large numbers of infected people when you cannot expel the virus through your normal first line protection. Having a weakened immune system will also slow your ability to respond to infection. Vaccines weaken you immune system, and this is why vaccine victims are having to have the so-called booster shots. Rather than being vaccinated, you should follow the simple, and free, methods of boosting your natural immunity. These are listed in many threads in this forum.
This depends on the vaccine because not all vaccines reduce your immune system and a lot of vaccines only reduce your immune system for a short time. I can prove this from a harvard study https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/can-the-flu-shot-hurt-my-immune-response

They found that the vaccine did not weaken the immune system with booster shots you are providing false information. The reason I have not included a link to research about the Covid booster shots is because they have not been studied yet your claims are not based on any factual evidence.
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August 05, 2021, 12:45:24 PM
#38
Lets be quite clear about the facts. Vaccination does not boost your immune system. It relies on your immune system to do its work, but it reduces its effectiveness by giving it fake information, and this is one way that virus mutations are created. You can't be truly healthy if you have been vaccinated, as the vaccine alters your immune response, as well as introducing side effects, and some are considered to be carcinogenic - the escaped spike protein for example. Mother Nature knows best.

The vaccine concept is that the immune system is encouraged to create antibody and "T" cell responses in advance of infection to protect against a viral overload in the case of infection. Viral overloads are created by wearing masks, staying in unventilated rooms, as well as exposure to large numbers of infected people when you cannot expel the virus through your normal first line protection. Having a weakened immune system will also slow your ability to respond to infection. Vaccines weaken you immune system, and this is why vaccine victims are having to have the so-called booster shots. Rather than being vaccinated, you should follow the simple, and free, methods of boosting your natural immunity. These are listed in many threads in this forum.

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August 04, 2021, 06:46:23 PM
#37
I live in Venezuela, I stay healthy as much as I can. I follow the health controls strictly, I have not yet been vaccinated.
According to Our World in Data, from the University of Oxford, my country among those in Latin America is the one that has vaccinated the population the least due to several factors, but the lack of coordination is what I think is the cause.
In the country, the vaccines Sinopharm (China), Sputnik V (Russia) and Abdala (Cuba) are being administered to immunize the Venezuelan population.
I can share the experience of my sister who lives in another state far from where I reside that she received the Sinopharm vaccine and the effects that she received were very mild.
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August 04, 2021, 01:22:16 PM
#36
Socialization is one of the efforts to accommodate and provide information related to our goals and objectives, socialization is carried out as a form of effort to provide information to the public, in presenting socialization that involves education. Education is the provision of knowledge about certain things as an effort to increase public understanding. A good understanding will create a good mindset as well. One of the efforts that must be made for socialization and education is the provision of vaccines. Efforts to provide vaccines by means of socialization and education to increase public understanding of trust in the vaccines given, namely free and safe given to the community.
Another worthless hacked or bought account just posting for to keep post count up
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August 04, 2021, 01:03:34 PM
#35
Socialization is one of the efforts to accommodate and provide information related to our goals and objectives, socialization is carried out as a form of effort to provide information to the public, in presenting socialization that involves education. Education is the provision of knowledge about certain things as an effort to increase public understanding. A good understanding will create a good mindset as well. One of the efforts that must be made for socialization and education is the provision of vaccines. Efforts to provide vaccines by means of socialization and education to increase public understanding of trust in the vaccines given, namely free and safe given to the community.
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August 04, 2021, 04:37:21 AM
#34
   About this thread is very serious being vaccinated or unvaccinated relevant questions for everyone. But me not yet to take the Vaccine since I have an allergy so I just observed for a while to those people who had an allergy and take their Vaccine's if there is an reaction of their body. But so far being unvaccinated is just like a normal life and healthy right now and thanks to God that I'm okay and my family so far.
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August 03, 2021, 02:59:30 AM
#33
I think those who oppose vaccination and those who oppose wearing masks are largely the same group of people.

They are selfish people. We can think of it this way. Wearing a mask is not only protecting ourselves but also protecting friends and family around us. The same goes for vaccines.
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August 03, 2021, 02:17:21 AM
#32
Then you should stay that way, and resist enforced vaccination. We are starting to see the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health, and at some point there will be a financial reckoning. A large reference group of healthy unvaccinated peope will provide evidence for the claims by those crippled by untested vaccination. It may take years for all the side effects to become apparent.

I am a healthy vaccinated person and nothing wrong with that. Everybody has his own right if he wants to get vaccinated, but if you come into contact with elderly people it's not your life you gamble with. Personally I got the vaccine so I can meet my 90 year old grandmother again without being afraid to infect her with the corona virus.
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August 03, 2021, 12:03:21 AM
#31
I think most people are still out of the immunization program there are many countries that are still far behind in immunization. Vaccines are a medium that helps boost the human body's immune system and people are a little scared of the shortage of production and the fact that the virus is new, Even though vaccinations are being given in phases, it seems to me that if it could be done more quickly, many lives might be saved.
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August 02, 2021, 11:47:09 PM
#30
I'd like to think of myself as a healthy person (physically anyway, mentally may be up for debate on this forum).  Certainly I don't consider myself to be in the bottom 0.1% of healthy individuals that would be at risk of death from Covid.  I feel like for the sake of humanity and not becoming a helpless species dependent on science and medical intervention to keep from going extinct, I should probably stay natural in my fight against this Covid foe.  If I die, I die.  It's not like I have any disillusions about the fact that I am going to die.  I'd always hoped I'd die from getting eaten by sharks on vacation or saving a helpless child/animal from death, but we can't all have an awesome end to our story.  I'm willing to risk the awesome end of mine in order to do what I believe in. 

Quoting the late Earl Simmons, "I stand for what I believe in. Even if what I believe in stops me from breathing."

Same here. I just hope SOMETHING will eventually break through to the Branch Covidians that vaccines come with risks – especially when they are virtually untested. I don't want anyone to get harmed by long-term side effects, but if that's what it takes for people to stop treating me like Ted Bundy because I won't become a guinea pig, so be it.
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August 02, 2021, 11:39:21 PM
#29
Neil Oliver: For the sake of freedom – yours and mine – I will cheerfully risk catching Covid-19

I think Neil Oliver may have ended his career by switching from BBC history documentaries to, well, whatever he's trying to do on GBNews. That channel is hilarious.
The problem with all of these 'pro-freedom' people is that freedom is great just so long as it is the kind of freedom they like. If it's the wrong kind of freedom, they get very angry.

Most famously for the 'pro-freedom' GBNews channel was the incident when one of their presenters had an abrupt volte-face on BLM, and took the knee live on air... triggering such a massive backlash among their 'pro-freedom' fans that viewing figures dropped to zero, with 'no measurable audience'. He's since been suspended.

Also their star presenter (and chairman), the pro-Brexit Andrew Neil, took a break shortly after the channel launched (he's not yet returned) and decamped to his home (as you might anticipate, he lives in the south of France Cheesy ) ... after what he euphemistically referred to as the channel's 'rocky start'.

There is only one kind of freedom and one Bitcoin.

If you are liked like Neil Oliver you can receive letters addressed to "Scottish bloke with long hair who hangs around regions"
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legendary
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August 02, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
#28
Notice how they are trying to shut Basilico’s down for some trumped up charge relating to it's liquor license. They can't shut you down for not obeying their silly mask and vaccine orders. They are playing with your mind.


California restaurant that never closed and never masked says only unvaccinated diners allowed



Basilico’s Pasta E Vino in Huntington Beach, Calif., has a new requirement for diners: no vaccinated patrons allowed.

The popular Southern California eatery has notoriously flouted all Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) restrictions from the government since the very beginning, including indoor dining restrictions, mask mandates, and now Gov. Gavin Newsom’s recent proclamation that only jabbed people in the Golden State are allowed to take off their masks.

Signs on the front of Basilico’s now state that proof of being unvaccinated is required in order to enter. “We have zero tolerance for treasonous, anti-American stupidity. Thank you for pondering,” they go on to read.

The owners of Basilico’s are not actually checking their guests’ vaccine cards, or lack thereof, upon entry, of course. They do want to make it known, though, that they are not going to be pushed around by rogue government officials whose lust for power supersedes all constitutional bounds.

Not once has Basilico’s changed any aspects of its business since the start of the plandemic. The restaurant remained fully open at all times, and even made a policy that it did enforce disallowing anyone with a mask from entering the establishment.

It was one of a few Orange County safe havens where freedom-lovers were free to congregate without having to antisocially distance or cover their faces in order to enjoy an even out from the cruel lockdowns.

“So to be clear, if you enter the restaurant for dine in, and want to wear a mask, you must remove it when sitting down,” a June 27, 2020, statement from the business read back when mask mandates were the norm.

“If you are standing around inside and waiting for a table, or waiting inside to pick up food for yourself or as a third party delivery driver, and you are wearing a mask, you will be asked to wait outside.”
Freedom-haters continue to try to take down Basilico’s with no success

Basilico’s has faced repeated threats of persecution for the stand it has chosen to take. The California Department of Alcohol Beverage Control tried to withdraw the restaurant’s liquor license for operating a “disorderly premises.”

That case has gone nowhere, and Basilico’s has maintained its liquor license. However, a spokesperson for ABC claims that the “case is pending.”

...


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August 02, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
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Neil Oliver: For the sake of freedom – yours and mine – I will cheerfully risk catching Covid-19

I think Neil Oliver may have ended his career by switching from BBC history documentaries to, well, whatever he's trying to do on GBNews. That channel is hilarious.
The problem with all of these 'pro-freedom' people is that freedom is great just so long as it is the kind of freedom they like. If it's the wrong kind of freedom, they get very angry.

Most famously for the 'pro-freedom' GBNews channel was the incident when one of their presenters had an abrupt volte-face on BLM, and took the knee live on air... triggering such a massive backlash among their 'pro-freedom' fans that viewing figures dropped to zero, with 'no measurable audience'. He's since been suspended.

Also their star presenter (and chairman), the pro-Brexit Andrew Neil, took a break shortly after the channel launched (he's not yet returned) and decamped to his home (as you might anticipate, he lives in the south of France Cheesy ) ... after what he euphemistically referred to as the channel's 'rocky start'.
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August 02, 2021, 11:14:06 AM
#26

Neil Oliver: For the sake of freedom – yours and mine – I will cheerfully risk catching Covid-19
https://youtu.be/-sjRxrH5QL0
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August 02, 2021, 08:45:02 AM
#25
I have been really healthy and still is without being vaccinated and by that, I mean the Covid-19 vaccine. Though, I've been vaccinated against other diseases like chicken pox, measles amongst others at an early stage.

I'm very much not against vaccination but then, I'm very much against taking unsatisfied or verified vaccine. There have been far too many complaints on the circulating vaccines for anyone whom is healthy and is actually concerned about his health to actually jump into accepting just any vaccine been passed around by the government.
Sadly, we hardly have a choice aboylut it with the government certifying it and making it a most or criteria to access certain opportunities avail in our locality. So unfair.
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August 01, 2021, 09:38:21 AM
#24

Three quarters are fully vaccinated and 80% of hospitalized covids also full loaded with the covid shot.
Up to date data looks grim for vaccinated.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7031e2-H.pdf

Probably they are trying to cover for ill effects of the experimental gene therapy by calling it 'covid' to some extent here.  Just as predicted.

As for the effectiveness of actually creating immunity to the virus, I'm sure that big pharma would have wished to do this if it were even possible, but they didn't have enough time.  So, they carried on with the experimental and development work which was of higher priority and scheduled as part of the plandemic long before they kicked it off.  Thus it is not surprising that the so-called 'vaccine' has a less than zero effectiveness against the SARS-cov-2 virus (or any other coronavirus.)  Creating immunity was not a requirement for 'effectiveness' in getting the emergency use authorization so they didn't need to bother. 

For the benefit of those who remain ignorant, what it means to say that the so-called 'vaccine' is effective is that it reduces mild to moderate symptoms of 'covid'.  It did/does NOT mean that the so-called 'vaccine' stops people from becoming infected with SARS-cov-2, not that it stops the infection to multiply within their bodies, and not that it keeps a person from spreading the infection to others.  And it is becoming increasingly clear that it does none of these things.

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August 01, 2021, 07:15:15 AM
#23

Three quarters are fully vaccinated and 80% of hospitalized covids also full loaded with the covid shot.
Up to date data looks grim for vaccinated.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7031e2-H.pdf
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August 01, 2021, 03:26:18 AM
#22
Unfortunately we can't resist the mandatory vaccination.  Sad In our country, we cannot go on the jobs if we are unvaccinated. The government is now planning to block the mobile sims and internet connections for those who did not get vaccinated and have already given the deadline. In this situation how can anyone avoid the vaccination  Huh

problem with pakistan is. . only offering 200k doses a day in a populous of 220million..
even if everyone was willing to have a vaccine. especially a 2 dose vaccine.
would take upto 2000 days to inoculate everyone (6 years)

pakistan should not be putting so much tight rules on those not wanting getting a vaccine in a situation when there is not enough vaccine to get.

in numbers
if 200k a day for 6 months = 36mill of 200mill (18% single dose(or 9% double dose))

imagine that there is a 70% desire for vaccine
thats still 52%-61% waiting for a vaccine(single or double). unable to have a vaccine, and hindered by rules aimed at the 30% refusers but affecting 52-61% of the desirers
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August 01, 2021, 01:50:53 AM
#21
Then you should stay that way, and resist enforced vaccination.

Unfortunately we can't resist the mandatory vaccination.  Sad In our country, we cannot go on the jobs if we are unvaccinated. The government is now planning to block the mobile sims and internet connections for those who did not get vaccinated and have already given the deadline. In this situation how can anyone avoid the vaccination  Huh
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July 31, 2021, 11:33:36 PM
#20
MRNA vaccines contain ingredients from the virus that produce covid-19 that instruct our cells on the way to make a dull protein that's unique to the virus after our cells replicate the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies understand that the protein shouldn't be there and will be made in order that if we become infected within the future it's impossible for it to evolve into an epidemic for infectious infections and every of the remainder is building its own system.
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July 31, 2021, 06:06:16 PM
#19
You could argue that the Corona Virus is a novel one because it is man made, and because it incorporates a RNA string which was added by gain-of-function technology to make it more infectious to humans.
It seems to be  pretty much accepted that the virus was created using American funded gain-of-function technology.

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years, and they failed to protect against SARS or MERS. No information has beenb released as to why they failed, or what their side effects were. It is an interesting coincidence that they have arrived just in time to save us from this man made virus.

wrong for many reasons but lets pick the top 2.

1. man made
- hundreds of thousands of studies have seen the virus sequence. they know it so well and compared it that they can also see the natural wild changes as it mutates in public. they can see the variances of symptomology to know which strains are of significance..

but most importantly. they can look at the alpha sequence and see that it still has palindromes and introns
(2 things that disapear when editing in a lab)
it also lacks indels(sequences added when editing in a lab)
thus no editing had occured..

2, gain of function
-the much publicised NIH-WUHAN research. was not gain of function.. it was infact decrease of function. without using any gene editing..
taking older viruses like the older sars. and actually attenuating them down.

in short they turned down the lab temperature and let it incubate at near freezing. thus slowing down the replication rate. and while the virus learned to survive at lower temperatures.. meant it didnt like higher temperatures like body heat

and so would not replicate in body heat scenarios..

this is not gain of function. this was loss of function study.
no gene editing. no covid sequence. no splicing

the sequence used in the NIH-WUHAN study was not even the same lineage as what covid was.
there is no lineage associated virus in wuhan that can explain covid existance

but here is the thing. though loss of function virus is a good candidate for a vaccine.. guess what. loss of function then becomes a poor candidate as a mass produced vaccine for the world.

3. mRNA lack of research
there is massive amount of studies. the lack is in jetcash.. HIM lacking to research the research.
mRNA breaks down in a couple of days.
mRNA creates protiens. lacks the length of code to do the more complex taska of gene editing/replicating
the protein it creates appears on the cell that created it(its not blasted into the bloodstream)
the protein breaks down in a few weeks if not handled already by your immune system earlier
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July 31, 2021, 06:04:48 PM
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Jet Cash, just wanted to raise me hand. I’m mid 30’s & unvaccinated against COVID. I’m not an anti vaxxer, I had all the normal ones as a kid. I’m just not willing to put a largely untested cocktail of who knows what into my body.

I’m pretty sure I’ve had COVID twice any way. In Jan/Feb 2020 I had a really bad cough & my voice was very hoarse for months. I was actually coughing up blood at one point because the dry cough was so harsh.

I had it for a second time (confirmed) with very few symptoms, I had to have a test due to attending a sports event & the test was positive but I literally only had a cold that time.

Any way, I’ve broken just about every lockdown rule throughout the entire pandemic & I’m here to tell the tale.
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July 31, 2021, 01:33:06 PM
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It seems to be  pretty much accepted that the virus was created using American funded gain-of-function technology.

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years, and they failed to protect against SARS or MERS. No information has beenb released as to why they failed, or what their side effects were. It is an interesting coincidence that they have arrived just in time to save us from this man made virus.
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July 31, 2021, 12:53:15 PM
#16
Then you should stay that way, and resist enforced vaccination. We are starting to see the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health, and at some point there will be a financial reckoning. A large reference group of healthy unvaccinated peope will provide evidence for the claims by those crippled by untested vaccination. It may take years for all the side effects to become apparent.
It is also quite alarming how the government is manipulating everyone to get vaccinated even if it is against their will. There are plans wherein only the vaccinated ones will be allowed to go outside and for me, they just became untrue to their words about saying that getting the vaccine is voluntary. As of now, I consider myself as a healthy unvaccinated individual. It just makes it hard to be convincing that a certain illness that recently showed up has a vaccine already yet there are a lot of diseases wherein a cure nor a vaccinated wasn't made yet. Who knows what detrimental effect the vaccine might give to people as years goes by.
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July 29, 2021, 10:49:28 AM
#15
yes, I am a healthy unvaccinated person. I believe that vaccination is not necessary for a healthy person, since the body is able to cope with the disease itself, and the vaccine is deadly for the patient because his immunity cannot cope with the disease. watch your health, eat right and play sports and everything will be fine with you. bless you guys
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July 27, 2021, 09:02:39 AM
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Covid is not a zoonotic virus - so far they have not been able to find an animal that can be infected by it.
You can't use absence of evidence as evidence. There may be no smoking pangolin (can't get that image out of my head)... but I could equally well say: Covid was not developed in a lab, because we haven't found a lab that developed it.


Corona Viruses are only deadly if you have a messed up immune system.
SARS? MERS?


The primary function of a virus is to replicate, and it can't do that if it kills the animals it infects. That is why the most successful viruses are the least deadly, and natural evolution makes them less of a risk to their chosen hosts.
Yes, agreed. But this is not relevant to the vaccine, or to the novel coronavirus that emerged at the end of 2019.


Claims by the vaccine makers indicate  that it is only 50-80% effective, but they don't qualify this.
Huh Pfizer and Moderna are ~95%, AZ is ~90%


If it was 100% effective, then they wouldn't care about non-vaccinated peope.
Not true. We can't instantly vaccinate everyone in the world who wants it. There are many people who want to be vaccinated, but are still waiting, and being put at increased risk by anti-vaxxers spreading the virus.


Side effect from the vaccines have not been tested for long term damage.
The vaccines are new. Nothing that is new can have known long-term implications. But this doesn't mean that everything that is new is bad.


Remember, I am not a doctor, and I have no medical training, I am just an observer of life, and I have an interest in preserving a long and healthy life for myself.
Thanks for admitting you're not an expert. I'm not an expert either, but obviously have a different point of view to you. I want everyone to have long and healthy lives. Your frequent advice on diet and healthy lifestyle is something I agree with wholeheartedly. I also agree that over-medication can be an issue, due in part to healthcare being provided with a profit motive. But vaccines save lives.
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July 27, 2021, 06:18:27 AM
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Covid is not a zoonotic virus - so far they have not been able to find an animal that can be infected by it.

The added RNA string is not a natural evolution, and its creation is exactly why gain-of-function research was being funded.

You get natural immunity by exposure to the pathogens that arer part of our world. Corona Viruses are only deadly if you have a messed up immune system. The primary function of a virus is to replicate, and it can't do that if it kills the animals it infects. That is why the most successful viruses are the least deadly, and natural evolution makes them less of a risk to their chosen hosts.

Claims by the vaccine makers indicate  that it is only 50-80% effective, but they don't qualify this. If it was 100% effective, then they wouldn't care about non-vaccinated peope. Viruses are smart, and they evolve quickly, using extract of moth lava is not a part of the natural evolution of viruses, and will lead to some unusual variants.

Side effect from the vaccines have not been tested for long term damage. For example, it is know that the spike protein in a vaccine can escape from the muscle tissue, and it collects in various organs - a woman's ovaries is one of them. It is not known what effect this will have of future offspring, and it is one reason why a couple of viriologists are suggesting that women should not be vaccinated.

Remember, I am not a doctor, and I have no medical training, I am just an observer of life, and I have an interest in preserving a long and healthy life for myself.
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July 27, 2021, 05:52:40 AM
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it is man made, and because it incorporates a RNA string which was added by gain-of-function technology to make it more infectious to humans.
This is speculation. You can't state it as fact. Whilst we can't 100% rule out a lab leak, and whilst Chinese government secrecy hampers any investigation, the data still suggest quite strongly a natural origin.


largely untested vaccine is being promoted when it is manifestly causing death and paralysis.
[CITATION NEEDED]
Again, this is baseless speculation, and flies in the face of the evidence.


All this informatiion is being suppressed, and that is why people  are not aware of the true facts.
Either being suppressed, or doesn't exist. One or the other.
Of course with something of this scale, there will always be a few individual medical professionals, a few individual cases, that can be used to suggest anything. But there are also huge, publicly available datasets from all around the world.


Reports are only just stsrting to appear that confirm that natural immunity is superior to vaccination in healthy individuals.
Natural immunity is great if you can get it. The problem is that you get it by contracting a potentially fatal virus. Taking the vaccine is far safer.


The real "pandemic" is insulin resistance, and discussions about this are starting to appearf at last. My hope is that I can encourage a few people to try to improve their health through natural processes, and free themselves from the tyranny and slavery resulting from pharmaceutical dependency.
Insulin resistance and more generally metabolic syndrome are certainly areas of concern, and certainly poor dietary choices and sedentary lifestyles play a role. Yes, it is always a good idea to improve your health through natural processes... but this isn't a panacea, and doesn't make you immune to everything. Vaccination is still the best route to protection against Covid.


apps and other spyware on your phones and computers, tracking of your movements, new programmab le currency to replace the failed fiat currencies
Again, yes, these are all areas of concern... but again, as the data demonstrate, vaccination is still the best route to protection against Covid. Spyware and location tracking have zero relation to vaccine efficacy.
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July 27, 2021, 03:54:58 AM
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You could argue that the Corona Virus is a novel one because it is man made, and because it incorporates a RNA string which was added by gain-of-function technology to make it more infectious to humans.

You may like to reflect on the reason that governments are insisting that a largely untested vaccine is being promoted when it is manifestly causing death and paralysis. All this informatiion is being suppressed, and that is why people  are not aware of the true facts. However, the information is available if you move away from main stream media, and  look at the scientific reports. Many virologists state that a vaccine shoukd not be given during a pandemic, and certainly not to people who are infected. It is not a cure, but is intended to be a preventative measure that stimulates the immune system.

Reports are only just stsrting to appear that confirm that natural immunity is superior to vaccination in healthy individuals. The real "pandemic" is insulin resistance, and discussions about this are starting to appearf at last. My hope is that I can encourage a few people to try to improve their health through natural processes, and free themselves from the tyranny and slavery resulting from pharmaceutical dependency.

There is more to it than just the issues of abrogating your health. There are the issues of apps and other spyware on your phones and computers, tracking of your movements, new programmab le currency to replace the failed fiat currencies, and many other issues. You don't have to opt out of society to cope with the issues, but you do need to be aware of them, and be able to control your physical, mental and financial health.
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July 27, 2021, 03:46:03 AM
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One common issue with anti-vaxxers is selfishness; they say they are fit and healthy and don't need the vaccine. This overlooks the fact that the purpose of the vaccine is not merely to protect yourself, but to help to protect everyone. Given your previous posts, I am not at all surprised that you are considering the word "novel" to refer to yourself rather than to the whole population.

Actually, it is you is you creeps who want everyone else to take an experimental gene therapy treatment risk with no support if they get sick just so _you_ feel safe.

The worst are the teachers who want kids, who basically cannot even get 'covid', to wear masks and spend many hours per day with damaging levels of CO2 only so they feel more safe.  It's not only an idiotic fall sense of false security, but it is the most cowardly shifting of risk to innocent people who cannot fight back.

Nurses in the hospitals are just as bad.  Giving highly sub-standard care which in the case of mis-used ventilators which kill 99% of the victims just so they don't get a germ.  Some of them even routed IV tubes out of the rooms and let the people die completely alone while they killed time making tik-toc vids.  These shameful people were in the wrong fuckin' business.

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July 27, 2021, 03:30:10 AM
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gonna put this here...whoever starts telling you that covid19 is a "novel" virus...
here is the thing..any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"....guess what? you have encountered a lot of corona viruses in your life time.

"any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"" ... Don't be silly. I'm not sure whether you are trolling or whether you genuinely don't understand. I will humour you, and explain. Yes, every virus you have not encountered before is new to you... but that's not really the point, is it? One reason that this novel coronavirus has caused such chaos is that it spreads so easily amongst the population. This is because no-one has any initial immunity. You may wish to consider the historic example of the conquistadors bringing new diseases to the Americas, and nearly wiping out the native population - who had no pre-existing immunity.

One common issue with anti-vaxxers is selfishness; they say they are fit and healthy and don't need the vaccine. This overlooks the fact that the purpose of the vaccine is not merely to protect yourself, but to help to protect everyone. Given your previous posts, I am not at all surprised that you are considering the word "novel" to refer to yourself rather than to the whole population.

have you ingested 12.5 teaspoons of sugar today? if not, you have no right to tell people to put something in their body today..

want more sugar in your body? LOL
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Thus, most of the archaeological and biological evidence suggests that the staple food for the Maya was maize.

your argument is a double edge sword. what do you want to be, the mayans or the spaniards?

i protect people by encouraging them to become more healthy and not by injecting something in my body. my body my choice fuck you and the rest that is like you.
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July 27, 2021, 03:12:23 AM
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We are starting to see the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health, and at some point there will be a financial reckoning.

There will certainly be a financial reckoning from the bailouts, yes, this is unavoidable.
But you will need to show some evidence for "the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health" - because this statement is in opposition to available data. You can't just make a statement that goes against the evidence, and expect people to believe it.




gonna put this here...whoever starts telling you that covid19 is a "novel" virus...
here is the thing..any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"....guess what? you have encountered a lot of corona viruses in your life time.

"any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"" ... Don't be silly. I'm not sure whether you are trolling or whether you genuinely don't understand. I will humour you, and explain. Yes, every virus you have not encountered before is new to you... but that's not really the point, is it? One reason that this novel coronavirus has caused such chaos is that it spreads so easily amongst the population. This is because no-one has any initial immunity. You may wish to consider the historic example of the conquistadors bringing new diseases to the Americas, and nearly wiping out the native population - who had no pre-existing immunity.

One common issue with anti-vaxxers is selfishness; they say they are fit and healthy and don't need the vaccine. This overlooks the fact that the purpose of the vaccine is not merely to protect yourself, but to help to protect everyone. Given your previous posts, I am not at all surprised that you are considering the word "novel" to refer to yourself rather than to the whole population.
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July 27, 2021, 02:56:22 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/vaccine-basics/index.html
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The smallpox vaccine protects people from smallpox by helping their bodies develop immunity to smallpox. The vaccine is made from a virus called vaccinia, which is a poxvirus similar to smallpox, but less harmful.

applying this logic, your immune system already encountered quite a lot of corona viruses not to mention your ancestors.

you are built for this thing (covid).

so Cnut237 cut the smallpox crap and get a hold of your nuts because they are falling  Cheesy

Sorry, I can't see that you're applying any logic. Football pitches and dollar bills are both rectangles - are they the same thing? Are they interchangeable? SARS-CoV-2 is not the common cold. Humans aren't gorillas.



there..enlarged the text..are you okay? must be the vaxx LOL

gonna put this here...whoever starts telling you that covid19 is a "novel" virus...

here is the thing..any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel" to it (be it a few seconds old or a 1000 years old)....guess what? you have encountered a lot of corona viruses in your life time.

how about the kids? well they are protected by their larger thymus gland compared to adults  Wink

now..chicken shits government ass licking idiots take your 12.5 teaspoons of sugar today/everyday (FDA approved) and keep lying to yourselves LOL  Grin  
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July 27, 2021, 01:56:23 AM
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It may take years for all the side effects to become apparent.

Give me the example of a drug that you inject today and the side effects appear years from now.

Half a year ago you were also saying that there were too many people dying in the short term from the vaccine:

I see one person posted that the vaccines haven't been around long enough to comment. Well, if someone dies within 5 minutes or a few days, then one case could be a coincidence, but there are too many people dying shortly after vaccination for it not to be a contributing factor.  

Good thing you edited original the message.

You're not the only one, by the way. The people who were saying people were going to die by the millions in the short term from the vaccine have moved on to saying they are going to die within 5 years.
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I consider myself as a healthy unvaccinated person. But I am not yet in the priority list here in my country, the reason why I am still unvaccinated. But the problem lies when you need to go to other country or region, where they are mandatory requiring to accept only vaccinated individuals. If you have no plans to go outside, maybe no need to get the shot, but if you see yourself traveling anytime soon. Better get the shot because you may find some bottlenecks along the way. The discrimination maybe real if you are not yet vaccinated.
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I'd like to think of myself as a healthy person (physically anyway, mentally may be up for debate on this forum).  Certainly I don't consider myself to be in the bottom 0.1% of healthy individuals that would be at risk of death from Covid.  I feel like for the sake of humanity and not becoming a helpless species dependent on science and medical intervention to keep from going extinct, I should probably stay natural in my fight against this Covid foe.  If I die, I die.  It's not like I have any disillusions about the fact that I am going to die.  I'd always hoped I'd die from getting eaten by sharks on vacation or saving a helpless child/animal from death, but we can't all have an awesome end to our story.  I'm willing to risk the awesome end of mine in order to do what I believe in. 

Quoting the late Earl Simmons, "I stand for what I believe in. Even if what I believe in stops me from breathing."

The grave lets you stand in a horizontal position.     Cool
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I'd like to think of myself as a healthy person (physically anyway, mentally may be up for debate on this forum).  Certainly I don't consider myself to be in the bottom 0.1% of healthy individuals that would be at risk of death from Covid.  I feel like for the sake of humanity and not becoming a helpless species dependent on science and medical intervention to keep from going extinct, I should probably stay natural in my fight against this Covid foe.  If I die, I die.  It's not like I have any disillusions about the fact that I am going to die.  I'd always hoped I'd die from getting eaten by sharks on vacation or saving a helpless child/animal from death, but we can't all have an awesome end to our story.  I'm willing to risk the awesome end of mine in order to do what I believe in. 

Quoting the late Earl Simmons, "I stand for what I believe in. Even if what I believe in stops me from breathing."
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July 26, 2021, 02:36:33 PM
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you gotta laugh

a 70yo man saying he is avoiding a vaccine because be beleives he will be the clean specimen of proof in the future that the unvacinnated dont have...
'affects that have altered the ovaries of menstruating women'

yes he thinks that mrna change the genetics of menstruating woman..
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firstly it doesnt
secondly he is a man
thirdly he is over 70

so he is not really prime candidate of non-vaccine speciman that will be used as proof that those without vaccine have perfectly healthy ovaries

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as for any direct or even indirect proof of a link between vaccines and autistic kids..

well there is only this ..
austism is pretty much caused by family planning of having kids when parents are outside their prime fertile age.

the prime age being 16-36
under-age or over-age parenting..

. now how is this linked to vaccines
well pre-vaccine era of 1900's peoples life expectancy was 50. so at 40 they were planning retirement not family.
this 50yo average life expectancy was due to virus and disease,.

then vaccines came around. helping people live longer. upto 82yo life expectancy..
but then people in their 40's no longer able to retire..  decided to start having kids. but their sexual reproduction though is not in its prime. yea silly old nature.. not evolving the reproductive system

so they have kids, with a higher risk of defects due to having kids beyond their prime sexual reproductive systems age

and now people think its due to vaccines.
nope its due to people. thinking they can have kids even in their 40's-50's-60's

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and the punchline is
jetcash saved off having vaccines with the hope that it will keep his sperm clean.. so he can have kids later in life... reality is waiting 70 years to lose his virginity most certainly will mean his offspring will have defects like autism..
because all along it was a age issue causing defects. not vaccines
yep he stayed clean and pure for so many years, just to find out waiting so long will be his flaw of why his kids will have defects
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July 26, 2021, 01:43:10 PM
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Then you should stay that way, and resist enforced vaccination. We are starting to see the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health, and at some point there will be a financial reckoning. A large reference group of healthy unvaccinated peope will provide evidence for the claims by those crippled by untested vaccination. It may take years for all the side effects to become apparent.
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