Topic: Are you going to keep quit about bitwings? (Read 570 times)

Its really hard to find projects that are committed to pay their bounty participants after a long campaign. Luckily I didn’t join this project because in my personal judgement I don’t see their products feasible, don’t worry people doing this will never get far with karma move on and find another projects.

To me it is now clear that they have cheated with all the hunters because bounty in the beginning they never talked about kyc and they always said that no kyc would be needed to accept tokens for hunters. So i think those who are reluctant to give tokens to hunter bidders are definitely cheaters and scammer.

But in reality you will receive zero. They will come up with 1001 reason to recalculate final stakes/token amount.
They tell everywhere, that hunters most not pass kyc, those who does - get kicked. Hunters receive tokens in dashboard, where it is clearly written - kyc not passed. I think this will be next way to cheat, say you need to pass, and then does not distribute because hunter passed it.

I participated in the Bitwings Bounty project on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and the Reddit campaign. According to their initial spreadsheet I will get a total of 3800 tokens but according to the final spreadsheet I will get only 300 tokens. I complained to the telegram but did not find a remedy.  I still hope the Bitwings authority will resolve the matter properly; Otherwise, I think their reputation will be tarnished.

I think that is a good suggestion and they can consider it if they want to do another campaign. I will either get paid or not, but after protesting I am on the newest list of the released team and put in their new telegram group for reward distribution. although they also haven't explained the time for a definite distribution.

This should be an experience about the work of a team of bitwings who are not too professional to manage and become a bounty manager, they should hire a professional bounty manager.

Those who promoted bitwings and still get removed from spreadsheet should stand up for each other, if you guys aren't strong enough they will take advantage of you, I can't even understand what bounty hunters did wrong, the team are just randomly picking bounty hunters

let's look at that. even my name was crossed out in the second final spreadsheet. I don't know what they are filtering on, but many think that the rules they just made are really very bad. however, they have just made a new regulation after 1 year of bounty, which is certainly a very difficult decision to accept.

It's called pure cheating, the first spreadsheet was completed with stakes and many are removed for redtrusts and cheating, that's normal but after a year they did another auditing on a spreadsheet that was once completed and remove over 80% bounty hunters, this is nothing but cheating

What's there to fight for since the team decide to remove many participants themselves? There is no bounty manager to blame or take responsibility here, the rules of every bounty projects can be changed and that's what the team are using as advantage

It seems the team don't know what they are doing, their roadmap is off, they aren't following their roadmaps at all and development is very slow too, since they failed to raise hardcap successful I wonder how they will raise fund for binance exchange, that's going to cost them a lot.

I did not understand their actions. why reduce the number of people so much. This is the same as a scam. then it was easier just not to pay anyone

Yes, you are right, they have already reached their soft cap in 2019, but till now we don't see any active implementation from the team, which makes me think more negative about the company because recently they reduced the bounty reward without any intimation and this makes how they are perfect in developing the things in the future.

If it takes a year to get a project exchange then what is our profit by investing there. I think all these scams and scam projects that take years to raise ICOs or IEOs fund. My idea is that for a good and strong project ICO / IEO does not take much time to be completed and very soon they enter the exchange market besides their running speed is very remarkable.

Lack of enough fund is why bitwings team are like this I belief, the whole allocation for that bounty is too much and dropping the whole tokens will affect the token price, instead of the team to reduce the allocation by 50% since they failed to raise even softcap but the team aren't listening

very unfortunate indeed the actions of the Bitwings bounty manager, and also the Bitwings team, I see a lot of reduction in allocations and reduction of participants also carried out by them, in my opinion is very cruel, only this time I saw such action from bounty manager

I don't believe they will list on binance, they don't have the fund for binance exchange because they never raised enough money through private sale, public sale (ICO) and IEO on p2pb2b exchange combined, it was a total failure

they didnt collected much money and they have no fund to pay listing fee in reputable exchanges like binance. i see they will launch Ieo only on second or even three layer exchanges such as probit or bitforex.their team said they not depend on IEO result caused they have money to operate their project.

I think the bitwings project still has a chance to be able to do IEO there but I think it will make developers difficult because as far as I know the cost to enter the best exchange for now will require very expensive fees, and of course there must be guarantees about the project being worked on will therefore put the reputation and trust of the binance exchange place

At least now you are starting to be aware as Bounty hunters to choose project that you promote because aside from being not paid in your work?you are also helping these scammers to take victims like what Op experience.
i think this is enough reason to control your activity and just take the Jobs you researched to be legit.
specially this time now that Ethereum is growing faster,it sounds promising and convincing to have at least 400-600$ a month.

But for us who had been here for long time?this is nothing but ponzi project .


For OP provide proofs please so we can spread the shit of this project and will stop their scamming soon.

maybe they are not scammers, but they just decided not to give out as many coins as before and in any way decided to scam the bounty hunters. this is a common practice for many projects

2 ETH per month is insanely unbelievable, this sounds like those Ponzi scheme projects, what are the team thinking? The company have been around for past years and this could ruin their reputation for sure

This people just post to meet minimum weekly required for signature. If they would simply open Bitwings bounty topic, they would immediately see a pictures project offering different plans and a promise that a phone "would mine 2 ETH per month". First signs of scam or a hidden Ponzi scheme.

Check their webpage. Roadmap milestones are not completed. And milestones are marked as complete, are only those that were meant to be made during bounty duration. Conclusion - after bounty and ICO are finished, project becomes abandoned, even though they post "past news and achievements" in latest social media posts.

If they don't end up paying bounty hunters they will feel the heat, I know that some bounty hunters won't give up easily on this, they will find a way to retaliate, bitwings Twitter, Facebook and Instagram accounts are available to spread their unfair treatment

Bitwings looks big, the mobile company have been around for many years and again evan luthra which built apps for iPhone is involved with this project, very very hard to believe that the project is scam, the failed to raise softcap but the company is rich so no problem on that part

They don't have past experience about what this forum and it's members are capable of, they believe they can make the move and escape it without any side effects but no I think they knew, the words spread out fast, even their advisors heard about it, now bitwings team seem calm and ask for prove, some are getting approved presently, I think everyone should go and do the same

when a project does break its promise with its bounty participants, it makes their words a lie. what makes us think that they won't do the same thing going forward? Well, I have thoughts like that. however, investors can be in the line of bounty hunters, and this can have a bad effect on the future for the project. but I hope that his team will immediately resolve this issue with participants from his bounty hunter.

I really doubt they will be affected in the way you think... not that am in support of their behavior... Just that other project have done what they are doing now to hunters and get away with it without being affected, the lack of appropriate body to report issues like this is the reason why I think this will be another similar case like digitalbits, Jinbi and the likes,
Although I would sincerely hope to see this guy's receive the punishment for screwing hunters over to serve as lesson to others.

To buy the minephone will cost you 6000 BWN token and that's equivalent of 1500$ as per BWN token and again to start mining ethereum on the phone you will need to buy one of the packages available for the phone which will require depositing another Eth, this is premium package honestly, not everyone can do this

The minephone from bitwings is limited and not for everyone because it's very costly, this is why I think it could work, the minephone is just 40,000 pieces and that's all, there won't be any other than the 40k pieces, I'm suspecting that the eth will be coming from the mobile company revenue profit

It will be a big mistake if CZ list bitwings on binance, the project concept is built on lies, how can a smartphone gives ETH per month through proof of data? Another cloud mining I guess? I don't trust the project

Seriously? I doubt that Binance will even consider listing it on their IEO, seeing the project concept. Their platform is like a vague ponzi scheme where you buy product and earn for certain period of time. There is no difference and unique on this kind of platform.

Good thing I pass on this bounty campaign when they launched their promotion here on forum. At first, I considering but seeing the details makes me back out.

This crap project has no strong fundamental since it was created. AFAIK the team has a similar attitude like elysian that has confirmed as an exit scam project.
This crap coin should never exist.

Useless token created by scam team..

after learning your statement above it appears that the Bitwings project is a fraudulent project, I doubt that the project will keep their promise to pay the prize hunters, in fact there are many prize hunters experiencing the same thing after promoting their project for weeks but until now also get no token rewards at all. so I guess you don't have to expect big with the Bitwings project.

This isnt just the project that do have these kind  of behavior but if you do tend to see on wider scope then lots  of project teams do made out their own rules and decisions

since they do have the power to do so and as a bounty hunter then theres nothing much you can do but to deal with it.You get shocked? deal with it because bounty hunting

is never been a worthy thing for someone to spend up their time and effort on these days.Its better to jump an another career that would  be worth of the time.

Lol, funny how most of the people aren't even reading what you have written and they are just randomly saying bitwings is a good project. Or are they all shilling for bitwings?
Did they have any of those rules when you first joined the campaign? I mean most of the campaign does say that they have the right to change rules anytime, but making such huge changes that is going to negatively affect everyone isn't ethical at all in my opinion.
Just like most of the projects, they just don't want to pay their bounty hunters. That is why I always recommend avoiding those bounty hunting campaigns.

If binance will take cover the IEO and the developing parties will bring better solutions with the current issue regarding to
bounty hunters, there's still future only if this rumors will be taking place, though rumors are just nothing if there's no realities that will happen, all still ends up with speculative and hope hope to those who invested to this project.

Sorry about that mate,I can feel your pain,I think you guys who are all affect should reach out to the team politely and make them see reasons with them why they should pay you guys,but if they refuse let them know you will take it to twitter, bitcointalk and other social platforms that will ruine them,that could make then have a rethink.

How do you know that investors are sincerely happy? I don't see how their development activities can make a profits by every investors! Did you know that for a long time they were just going with the expectation and now they are rumor again that binance is coming to manage ieo. So work wisely and give up all these bad projects because they are just rumor dreaming projects.

Some rules should be added before changing some rules. You can't change the rules whatever you want. By the way, I've been following this campaign since I joined this campaign. Everything was proper until the admin got negative trust. Actually admin is very smart, they didn't reject the whole bounty hunters, so that some support should be left for them. By this rest of the hunters they could raise money before showing their real face. I never heard of a reason to reject users to delete proof of authentication post after 1 year. Swapzilla is offering a second chance but Bitwings won't do it.

It's better for all those who are affected by this to come together and fight it, the team can still change their mind but if you guys just keep quiet then the team will think they've checked mate you guys, better stand for each other and take the war to them

this bounty problem with influenced to their reputation. but investors will happy with developer team decision , they will thinking possibility to dump in market will decrease since many bounty hunter errased from spreadhseet and price could stable in market.

It's really a bad news for all bounty hunters who promoted this bitwings project, after waiting for over a year they still remove over 80% of bounty hunters? This isn't what they should do, instead it's even fair if they reduce the bounty allocation to 50%, every one will still be happy

It's going to be lots of trouble for the company if they fail to pay bounty hunters in the end, I doubt they will live up to their standard because making that much ethereum from a cloud mining phone is a big lie, doesn't make any sense but I will like to see how this will go

I for one will never trust bitwings project because they have lots of red flags in the project. Firstly I have a huge doubt over their phone whether they will be able to do what they claim it will and secondly this bounty issue which means they don't care about the community much.

It has been a very long time ago to see the team was not even updating the sheet, that looks like the team was trying to avoid their responsibility to pay the hunters. Some participants have been getting banned and more hunters were only asking them are also getting banned.

I heard what bitwings did and this is really sad that after waiting for a year bitwings removed so many participants just like that.
It does feel sad when we put in the efforts and wait for such a long time and in the end we get nothing.
I have faced this myself with other projects and to be honest there is nothing much we can do about it other than to post reviews and make threads making others aware of them. I have stopped doing bounty projects which doesn't look appealing to me.
I rather trade and hold coins which are already listed and have good potential.

Bitwings team are doing all they can to avoid giving out the once promised token allocation, I suspecting it's because they plan to list on binance exchange or do a final IEO on binance exchange, I don't know how investors will trust such project with their minephone

Well, let's see what will happen after this. I also hope that they will update their final spreadsheet again. I also joined this project and waited long enough. however, I still hope they re-enter my nickname in their new final spreadsheet. so far, the BM is still trying to update the spreadsheet again.

They have already changed some rules and it looks like they have already started to ban the participants to avoid the scam accusation. So many people were talking about this on its main chat group too. bitwing is a scam project.

This fact further proves that the dev team bitwings are not professional. They violated the rules that they made themselves. They did not pay the bounty hunter fairly, on the grounds that many accounts were inactive, even though the campaign had been completed a year ago, even though many protested that the account remained active and was used to support other projects. I think that's just their reason for not giving full rewards. I am also concerned, because many of my bounty hunter friends are not included in the final sheet, they said that many signature campaign participants who received rewards> 2000 tokens were removed from the spreadsheet.

things should not be taken lightly with them. The rule that was not stated before the bounty started and during the bounty, but that because they wanted to be shady with their distribution, they decided to fabricate some obnoxious rules from another planet to reduce the reward and deny participants of their rewards. It is totally unfair and should be frowned at.

Slowly Bitwings projects will be dead, they played with bounty hunters. That's why the managing team must be included. I found out that admin confirmed the final spreadsheet but now admin says this is the final spreadsheet ( as last update). In my opinion, Bitwings is a fully scam project. All investors should stay away from this Bitwings investment. You can invest in your own risk but Bitwings doesn't any good future.

Is that really happen? So meaning even if they work hard for it they didn't get the exact amount of what they work? It was very unfair to them if does happen because many hunters do their job they work for it so must the bounty manager would be paid on them based on the worked that they done.

Unfortunately, this is what bounty hunting has been reduced to. You stress yourself to promote a project and at the end of it all, these fraudulent and greedy teams come up with unnecessary and flimsy excuses just to deny you of your rewards. This primarily has been the case with bitwings. Unless something drastic gets done and timely too, bounty hunting will lose all its credibility.

This is not fair on behalf of hunters, though I don't participate in the bounty program but still I believe bounty hunters should always be treated with care, working for a project and after a year the project decided to audit and lastly you are on the final spreadsheet is nothing but a very bad experience

I wasn't among those who are chosen too but it's not the time to start talking about this, since they haven't distribute yet and the team are trying to go through another strict checking again so let's wait and see before judging the team

I was really disappointed how they treated hunters as a friend explained to me, how could you disqualify peopt that worked for you after many months would I say a year plus. Some quit bounty, some lost their accounts and some had one issue or the other so for the fact you didn't seem those handles active shouldn't warrant denying them of what they worked for. It saddens my heart.

Some of these developers have turned themselves to demi-god, when they need you to promote their project, they tell you fine things but after the campaign ends they find it very difficult to pay bounty hunters, it is interesting that they don't have money to advertise on tweeter and other platforms and choose Bitcointalk for free promotion and still decide against paying people

Yes right bitwings IEO in binance it's totally rumor because this project developed very poor and unless. I criticized their project but in fact i think this project will run away very soon. I have been watching their operations for a long time and now they are giving false expectations, but i would say never buy bitwings token then the amount of your capital can be reduced.

For active admin, I liked this project, but Bitwings is a scam like others. Vidy tokens couldn't listed Binance exchange without support hunters. Bitwings can't list any exchanges. They didn't mention that I couldn't delete proof of authentication post. After 1 year admin rejected me to delete proof post even though I can't make a new one like a swapzilla bounty. So their main point is to reject people, no one can call it reaudit. Even when I made a new post they blocked me from the telegram group.

Better to cut your loss and accept it so you can move and look for another project, this what is happening now, they will use hunters and won't pay or having cold feet, looking for a way to discredit hunters so that they won't pay some of them,  i think tokens should be escrowed as well, value or not it is better to know they are already in the possession of the bm, come what may hunters will get their reward.

Are you kidding me? Sounds more like a joke. How can a project leak such vital info before Binance, it's obviously not true. I didn't participate in Bitwings Bounty because their project aim looked more like its not feasible to me, producing phones that can mine blablabla. I'm not against the project and hope they can clear my doubt, and if truly they treated those who promoted their project badly, then its so unfair.

In the end, it was their bounty so their rule. Anytime, they could change or decide to exclude a list of users on spreadsheet by ticking a certain criterion that you guys won't meet. Although I did agree with a few points of their rule on your list but I do think changing rules after such a long time is not cool at all.

I agree with you that the team's actions are unjustified and look strange. But usually projects seek to protect themselves by adding a clause to the rules that they can change the terms of the campaign at any time. But the question immediately arises, the campaign is long over, what is happening?

Why do we care about this project so much? This is another scam project we should accept. Any phone can't mine 2 Ethereums in one month. Official account already got red trust for this point. The Spreadsheet was recalculate after the official account got red trust. Definitely these projects won't succeed in the future.

There is nothing we can do about bitwings, I was given tokens on the final spreadsheet before the team released another audit spreadsheet, it's why I'm asking bounty managers to start using escrow instead and again I've decide to stop joining bounty campaigns that's been managed by the project team themselves

As if there is anyone looking out for the interest of the hunters, most of this project are all the same now, when they need hunters help, they appear gentle and respond to all questions,  but once campaign is over they will turn savage,  banning hunters as they like over every little excuse,
Look at digitalbits they did same to hunters,  never paid a penny and they walk away freely. This is what hunters are going through now.

Yeah they've try to say something like that in Bitwings official group. But it would be their another fake promises. Nasdaq is also their partnership it’s seem fake clearly. There're no announcement from Binance how it’s could be true. Bounty rewards still unpaid, so don’t believe this project.                   

Seriously I never thought that bitwings team could do this, I checked the old spreadsheet and the new audited spreadsheet and out of 100 participants in signature campaign list only 36 signature campaign participants are selected, it looks like a random pick to me

Bitwings is big enough to get listed on binance, just because they cheat bounty hunters doesn't mean they can't get listed on binance exchange, don't expected binance exchange to fight for bounty hunters because the team failed to pay bounty hunters, how I wish but not possible

It's been announced on their telegram ANN channel that they will list on binance, it's possible they plan to hold another IEO on binance exchange or just want to list on the exchange, it will definitely ruin their reputation If they failed to resolve bounty issue

I suggest you remove that ibid signature you wearing, that's another complete scam project and it's been given red trust too, don't waste your time and find another better reliable project to promote, bitwings looks like a real project though, I never expected them to act on such way

the case of the Bitwings project is the same as other junk projects, we don't need to think about them, there is no right solution, there are no laws in crypto currencies, it will be useless if we just talk, for the future we have to really research about the project that we follow, Keep spirit

at early stages they lie to bounty hunter about distribution by cutting many member in their final sheet. later if their project run , investors could be their victim too, too many reason and not to honest to their community. its very sad they didnt keep reputation and even make it bad.

It's totally fake news that has already made by the team. Too many promises that have already created by the team. The bitwing team was always doing shady things and this is not the first time and so many times that team was spreading shit news.

I also participated in their campaign. and did not think I had to accept if I will not get anything from this project. after many people spoke in the group I don't think this project will work.

I have participated for the two months in the Bitwings bounty campaign and now I see that my work was worthless? They have a nice idea, but what happened that they are not motivated to fulfill the promises what they gave to the investors.

this looks very difficult. it's a shame I was also fooled by this project. I joined the signature campaign but I was not included in the spreadsheet published by the team. truly sorry that they did not receive clarification from all participants who were not on the list. if they have to end up a scam, then I won't regret it.

I don't know what's wrong with bitwings, this is really weird that after promoting the project hunters have to go through this. They deserve to be paid while bitwings are removing them for weird reason like being inactive in the forum for a while. Did someone ask what's wrong with that as everyone has the right to be active or be inactive in the forum if they want. If hunters have done things properly, they should be paid. Otherwise, a flag should be created for the violation of written contract.

I guess that's just a rumor. if it is true they will hold an IEO in this news binance it will probably be very big. and need huge funds to do that. see bitwings since mid-2019 they continue to sell tokens. meaning they really don't have funds. so forget about this project, because I think it's a bad project

that is indeed very unfair. I saw many participants in the old spreadsheet who did not enter the final published spreadsheet. their campaign was long over, and they claimed that many participants were inactive. that's a really stupid reason. for the signature participants, of the more than 200 participants there were only 35 participants who entered the final spreadsheet. that's a fraud.

I know it is disappointing especially when someone has worked for so many weeks and then forcefully put to wait for another year or so for distribution and right at the time of distribution a new spreadsheet comes out that does not have your name and rewards in it. I was shocked to see this too but when i contacted the manager with details they accepted my claim and added me. I hope all members will be paid for the tasks they performed and all issues will be resolved in a friendly way.

Bitwings is a scam project here i have no doubt. They haven't paid my rewards. I don't trust and recommend  this project. Many bounty hunters did their jobs more than 10 weeks but ultimately they didn't received any rewards. Team is also a bunch of cheaters. Binance will never hold IEO of such fake project.

There is nothing wrong with bounty hunters complaining about their latest spreadsheets, because they have worked according to the rules that have been imposed by the manager, so it is only natural that they complain about their own work every week.

For content, they drastically reduced the rewards giving every quality content a "LoW" remark with 150 tokens. That is indeed cruel from the Bounty manager and the team of Bitwings

After reading your post looks like the project has either reduced the bounty reward allocation or they simply do not want to pay all so definitely this is not good. On the other hand as a project everything seems great about bitwings, i like the blockchain based smartphone and other quality products that they are launching and i am sure they will be able to make a name for themselve when fully launched in the market.

I doubt this is true. Binance never disclose their potential project on IEO, where did you hear this rumor? Probably just a gossip about it but only through commoners. How come they will launch an IEO when they held already an ICO and there arr allegations about them not just with OP but also on scam section.

OP, let go of it already, many hunters experienced the same kind of unpaid dues.

if it just rumor we should not heard it , if i am not wrong they failed in first phase token sale but able to continue project.and another news just wait official announcement in their telegram group. at this moment in bitwings group still have problem with bounty hunter about reward payment.

It looks to me a good project and if they are able to launch IEO at some decent exchange then it can prove to be great one, as many bounty hunters are claiming that they excluded them after final spreadsheet then that is very wrong team should not do it, they should pay the earned reward to all hunters otherwise it can damage the reputation of the project.

Reportedly Bitwings will hold an IEO on binance, but it's still a rumor, we don't know for sure, and Binance also hasn't announced their IEO yet, we'll wait, if indeed IEO Bitwing is held at Binance, I'll buy it.

many bounty hunter complaining about their final spreadsheet. there are alot btt account not included in this spreadsheet they do bounty task well.reasons mentioned looks trumped up , even active users from bitwings start till now on errased from sheet. its very weird moreover their manager very rude.

I've decide to create this post by letting go on my token since I wasn't even choose after a audit that wasn't genuine from bitwings team, I don't care any more, here are few cruel acts from bitwings, you lose token if

1. You create any post pointing to bitwings insincerity about bounty tokens your tokens will be erased ..

2. You aren't active on Bitcointalk for 10 weeks after bounty is over a year ago you won't get any tokens

3. Your bitcointalk account get red trust after bitwings bounty is over you aren't getting your tokens

4. The bounty was over a year ago now and the spreadsheet was marked and everyone got tokens but not anymore, team did another weird audit and 85% of hunters are removed, even while they are rewarded tokens before.

5. Every accusations from the team are wrong and unknown, very weird isn't it?

6. I asked the team what I did wrong and the answer is I haven't been active, even for that fact that I've promoted several bounties for months.

7. Bitwings was already red tagged for project looking like Ponzi scheme and I confront the admin in charge. A crazy weird looking lady, she is in charge of the bitwings Btt account and she denied that they never open new accounts to spam


I'm not ready to let this slide, what can we do to nail this project? I'm think of spreading their cruel judgment over Twitter and Facebook, are you guys going to let this slide?