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May 18, 2024, 08:35:46 AM
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Today we can say that Armenia has left the axis of Moscow and Tehran. Moreover, both Moscow and Tehran became hostile to it. Nazism in its most ominous manifestation, namely fascist, has taken possession of the consciousness of the Armenian people.
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August 16, 2017, 02:40:47 AM
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I still don't understand why Iran ( a theocratic Muslim country) is supporting Armenia (which happens to be a religious Christian country), against Azerbaijan (another religious Muslim nation). Is there any particular reason?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_(Iran)

Azreris are a quite influential ethnic group in Iran, and many of the politicians and the officials come from that community. According to the Wikipedia, there are some 15 million Azeris in Iran, constituting for 15% to 20% of the national population.

But the problem is that despite being Shia Muslims, the Azeris of Azerbaijan have allied with the Sunni Muslim Turkey instead of the Shia Muslim Iran.

The point here is not in religion, but in ethnic origin. Azerbaijanis are ethnic Turks who live in the Caucasus (Northern Azerbaijan - 9.5 million) and Iran (South Azerbaijan - about 30 million). Some Azerbaijanis are Sunnis, part of the Shiites, but they want to unite in one state - Azerbaijan, Iran, as well as Russia and Armenia, are against it. And religion has nothing to do with it.
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August 07, 2017, 12:57:46 AM
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I still don't understand why Iran ( a theocratic Muslim country) is supporting Armenia (which happens to be a religious Christian country), against Azerbaijan (another religious Muslim nation). Is there any particular reason?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_(Iran)

Azreris are a quite influential ethnic group in Iran, and many of the politicians and the officials come from that community. According to the Wikipedia, there are some 15 million Azeris in Iran, constituting for 15% to 20% of the national population.

But the problem is that despite being Shia Muslims, the Azeris of Azerbaijan have allied with the Sunni Muslim Turkey instead of the Shia Muslim Iran.
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August 06, 2017, 11:32:42 AM
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And today one of these several Armenians who served on Hitler's side is being erected in Yerevan as a hero.



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According to a Holocaust survivor’s account published in the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel, Noreika led the extermination of the Jews in the Lithuanian city of Plunge. Since independence, however, Lithuania’s prosecutor general has restricted access to Noreika’s wartime files. Meanwhile, the state body charged with investigating and memorializing Nazi- and Soviet-era atrocities, the Genocide and Resistance Research Centre of Lithuania, turned the former guerrilla leader into a national hero. In 1997, Noreika was posthumously awarded one of the state’s highest honors, the Order of the Cross of Vytis, First Degree; in 2010, a primary school was named after him

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2015/07/lithuania_and_nazis_the_country_wants_to_forget_its_collaborationist_past.html

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a Holocaust perpetrator named Noreika. There is no question of his guilt, his signature is on Holocaust documents, witness statements place him squarely as a perpetrator, yet honors for him remain littered throughout the country, a complete absence of morality and accountability, rather, the elevation of a bigot, a murderer and a thief.

http://vilnews.com/2015-11-20832
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Welcome in EU & NATO country.
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August 06, 2017, 09:42:25 AM
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I still don't understand why Iran ( a theocratic Muslim country) is supporting Armenia (which happens to be a religious Christian country), against Azerbaijan (another religious Muslim nation). Is there any particular reason?

The explanation should first of all be seen in the fact that after the independence of Northern Azerbaijan, the Azerbaijani people finally got the opportunity to control their own destiny, develop their national culture and economy, open up to the World, taking part in various international events. For 30 million Azerbaijanis of Southern Azerbaijan, located in Iran, Northern Azerbaijan (population 9 million) has become an example of what can give people freedom and independence. This fact can not but disturb Tehran. Moreover, it should be taken into account that Northern Azerbaijan is a secular state that has taken the path of democracy. Another reason for Tehran's unfriendly attitude towards Baku is purely economic. The Caspian Sea floor in the space between Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan is rich in oil and gas, which causes envy, both in Iran and in Russia.

       Following purely geopolitical interests, Russia and Iran impede the fair division of the Caspian Sea between the Caspian countries. While negotiations are underway on the status of the Caspian, Russia and Iran are actively building up a military presence at sea, which even during the Cold War was probably the most peaceful and free of naval forces. After the collapse of the USSR, with the emergence of three independent and militarily weak states on the Caspian Sea, Moscow found it necessary to introduce brand new frigates equipped with missiles, which unambiguously poses a potential threat to the Caspian countries, primarily to Azerbaijan and its offshore wells. Moscow is clearly concerned about the intention of Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan to implement a project to deliver gas to Europe bypassing Russia. The project envisages the laying of a gas pipeline along the seabed, which gave Russia a reason to doubt the ecological safety of the Caspian Sea in unison with Iran and to protest against the transportation of gas on the seabed. How can I forget about the Russian "Nord Stream", whose gas pipeline is laid on the bottom of the Baltic, or the projected "South Stream" on the bottom of the Black Sea. Nervousness of Russia is understandable, because with the delivery of hydrocarbon raw materials to Europe from Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan, Russia will lose the monopoly on gas, which will negate the possibility of political blackmail and, most importantly, affect its economy, tied exclusively with the sale of hydrocarbons.
   
    The common geopolitical goals of Iran and Russia are an explanation of the strategic alliance between them. Here we must take into account, and the fact that both these countries are the same in their rejection of Western democracy, which threatens Russia with the final collapse of the empire, and for Iran with the loss of power by the religious elite. Both countries support Armenia in its aggressive intentions against Azerbaijan (2), and the smoldering Karabakh conflict at any moment in Moscow may spark a new war that Armenia is always ready to start with the active assistance of the Russian army in order to complete what it has started. On the maps drawn by Armenian cartographers, there is no place for Azerbaijan, which is quite satisfactory and Iran.
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August 06, 2017, 07:10:47 AM
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I still don't understand why Iran ( a theocratic Muslim country) is supporting Armenia (which happens to be a religious Christian country), against Azerbaijan (another religious Muslim nation). Is there any particular reason?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_(Iran)
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August 06, 2017, 07:00:10 AM
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I still don't understand why Iran ( a theocratic Muslim country) is supporting Armenia (which happens to be a religious Christian country), against Azerbaijan (another religious Muslim nation). Is there any particular reason?
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August 06, 2017, 04:12:46 AM
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In any country, there are traitors. Now the world has built a society of consumption and for many people the main thing is not moral values, and material. I guarantee that if the Americans will offer every Russian the salary of 2-3 thousand dollars a month Russian with great pleasure will pass Russia. What the Armenians are better? They are much cheaper than sold Armenia to the Russians.
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August 06, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
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Wow... this guy is thick enough to brand the Armenians as Nazi supporters? A few individual Armenians might have supported the Nazis, but hundreds of thousands of them fought against the Nazis in the red army, losing many in the process. On the other hand, huge numbers of Azeris and Turks served in various Nazi formations during the WW2.

Another lie from the supporter of Putin. A huge number of Turks served in Nazi formations? And there are only a few Armenians. And today one of these several Armenians who served on Hitler's side is being erected in Yerevan as a hero. And in Turkey, nothing is known about those who served German Nazis. And there is no monument. Did the Turks miss this opportunity !? If Nazi criminals are persecuted in Germany, then they put a monument in Armenia and praise them as heroes. Bravo! More to say there is nothing.
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August 06, 2017, 12:47:58 AM
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Wow... this guy is thick enough to brand the Armenians as Nazi supporters? A few individual Armenians might have supported the Nazis, but hundreds of thousands of them fought against the Nazis in the red army, losing many in the process. On the other hand, huge numbers of Azeris and Turks served in various Nazi formations during the WW2.
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August 05, 2017, 06:17:24 PM
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Just read the title the fake sunnis have exterminated the armenians and aim the kurds land while the fake shia defend the armenians against the sunnis but agree to wipe the kurds too?

Kurds should welcome the china inc energies and be over with all those flies, one more ethnic minority in the chinese galaxy... great thing are possible with a pure heart, the tao is the limit! But abuses... hehehe all have been seen, many times.
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August 05, 2017, 12:01:00 PM
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The Armenian Nazis hoisted a monument to the Armenian fascist and executioner, Nazi criminal Garegin Nzhdeh, creator and head of the Nazi so-called "Armenian Legion" in the Wehrmacht, where Soviet prisoners of war of Armenian nationality and representatives of the Armenian diaspora were recruited. This legion, like its leaders, is a direct accomplice to all Nazi crimes, including the genocide of the Jewish people - the Holocaust.

http://Https://kavkazplus.com/news.php?id=6534#.WYWF64SGPcc

Moscow silently perceived the opening of the monument to the Wehrmacht soldier in Yerevan. I can imagine what would be the reaction from Moscow, if something like this happened in Kiev. However, this is understandable, Russia and Armenia are strategic allies.

Alik Bakhshi

Armenia and Moscow - Tehran axis
 
        After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has emerged a potentially dangerous adversary - a nascent over a huge area, from Angara (River in Turkey) to the Angara (a river in Siberia) Turkic community, a kind of inheritance Timur, representing a threat to Turkic-speaking underbelly of Russia. For the same reason, Iran is concerned for the integrity of its territory, considering that it includes the South Azerbaijan. Besides geopolitical changes will have a big fuss around the Caspian Sea, with its huge oil reserves.
       Common strategic and economic objectives, and were the cause of the Moscow-Tehran axis. The same reasons have prompted Moscow to transfer nuclear technology to Iran, despite protests from Washington? Russia transfer to Iran of nuclear technology is not a bargain, and the fee for political cooperation. Explanations of Iran that a nuclear reactor is necessary as an alternative energy source, available huge natural energy resources, which are the oil and gas, devoid of logic and expediency.
       
       The link to this axis is Armenia, which has territorial claims against its neighbors. In addition, Armenia is Russia remained the only reliable springboard military presence in the Caucasus.
       By occurred at the time the political changes in the leadership of Armenia, namely the voluntary and unexpected to the casual observer the resignation of President Ter-Petrosian under pressure from supporters of a military solution to the Karabakh problem, one can assume with great certainty that it went to war.
       
   Lingering ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan with a politically loose any agreements Armenian military successes more annoyed militant opposition leaders, former president already. The isolation of Armenia, due to the political situation in the Caucasus, a deep economic crisis without any prospect of improvement in the face of an expected economic boom in Azerbaijan, thanks to the oil produced in the Caspian Sea, leaves no hope for the future of Ter-Petrosyan as President - a supporter of peaceful dialogue Baku. In addition, arrived from Russia through Iran additional weapons, including medium-range missiles "Scud", which can draw Baku and its oil terminals in the ruins, created a moment of undisputed military supremacy of Armenia to Azerbaijan. And while Azerbaijan does not yet have the currency for the purchase of adequate weapons, hawks in Yerevan would not mind to take advantage of the situation and now Yerevan is waiting for a sign from the Kremlin to launch military action. Moscow has not exhausted all possible options for diplomatic pressure to force Baku not only to transport the Caspian oil to the whole exclusively through Russia, but also to give up the right to develop the oil alone shelf from its shores. Moscow is increasingly exaggerates the issue of some unclear status of the Caspian Sea.
   
     Azerbaijan difficile is easily explained by economic and political considerations.
    The current pipeline currently passing on the North Caucasus, does not have sufficient bandwidth for all the oil produced in Azerbaijan planned. We must also take into account the oil of Kazakhstan, to which Baku will become a transit point. Thus, the need to build new, more powerful pipes clear. And if we build a new pipeline, it is much more profitable to lay him to the shores of the Black Sea through Georgia, which is considerably shorter, moreover, disappear concerns about political instability in Chechnya and Dagestan, through which the existing pipeline. Further laying the pipeline from Georgia to Turkey, Caspian oil will make available throughout the Mediterranean.
   
     Russia is reasonable to anticipate significant foreign exchange losses in the implementation of the project. Therefore, Moscow desperately taking all possible levers to destabilize the political situation in Georgia.
    General for Azerbaijan and the Turkic states of Central Asia economic issues related to oil and gas will contribute to the political consolidation of the Turkic peoples of the former Soviet Union, the consolidation of which dreams of most leading country of the Turkic world - Turkey. And then the revival of the past legacy of Tamerlane just around the corner.
 
     Against such a turn of events and aims previously set up the axis Moscow - Yerevan - Tehran, in which the main acting role for Armenia. Russia again, as at the turn of the 19th - 20th centuries, is playing the Armenian card to achieve their selfish goals.
     
     Here we come to the most dramatic moment, put the top of hatred in the history of relations between Armenians and Turks peacefully coexisted for a long historical period in the Ottoman Empire. The Turks did not pursue any of the Armenians due to nationality, or because of their Christianity. A large percentage of the Armenians was among the prosperous part of merchants and artisans.
     
      The reason for hostility lies in a completely different field, and to understand it, it is necessary to comprehend the events in Turkey and in Transcaucasia, during the late Ottoman Empire. It was during this period forms the Armenian party "Gnchak" [ "bell"] and "Dashnaktsutiun" [ "Union"], which put the task of creating in the eastern Anatolian Armenian state. According to their plan of "Great Armenia" should include the territory "from sea to sea" [meaning the Black, Caspian and Mediterranean Seas].
Supporters of this idea is not bothered that no one in the field of Turkish Armenians did not constitute a majority, and this is a necessary condition for the creation of at least autonomy, not to mention the state. To correct this undesirable demographic factor Dashnaks planned by murder and cruel violence to sow fear and panic among the Muslim population, to force him to leave their homes, freeing thus for the future territory of "Great Armenia".
   
      This circumstance, as well as possible, by the way, coincided with the intention of Russia in its expansion to the south from the Caucasus. On the eve of the First World War a large number of Russian in Dashnaks supplied weapons for the rebellion in the rear of the Ottoman Empire.
   
     Armenians were fighting not with regular Turkish troops, and mainly attacked civilians, unarmed Muslims and achieved considerable success. Hundreds of thousands of Turks and Kurds became refugees before the approach of the Russian troops. [It should be noted that the Kurds claim to the same land as the Armenians]. Armed insurgencies Armenians facilitated the Russian advance into the heart of Turkish territory. To protect the rear, the Turkish government was forced to order the eviction of Armenians from places intended direction of advance of the Russian army. Now columns, forcibly evicted Armenians stretched south towards Syria terrain on which the Muslims who had fled earlier from the cruel massacres committed by Armenian militants. And something happened that could not happen. Driven by revenge, the Turks and the Kurds attacked the defenseless Armenians. Evil has created evil. This terrible tragedy of 1915, which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Armenians could not be, if the Armenian fighters did not carry out a strategy of squeezing the peaceful population, sowing the seeds of evil that still sprout like weeds, threatening to strangle the world field in the South Caucasus.
   
      It would be an unforgivable mistake to equate the tragedy that befell the Armenian people, genocide. The catastrophe of European Jewry was planned in accordance with Nazi ideology and carried out in secret by special forces. A trial was held, identify the specific perpetrators of the genocide of the Jews and brought them to the verdict. What happened in Turkey - is a spontaneous reaction to the response of ordinary people in the pre-conceived ideology of "Dashnaktsutiun" beating Muslims.
      Evil is rooted in the ideology itself, "Dashnaktsutiun" party. Most of the wars conducted for the territory. Russia absorbed the earth together with the peoples inhabiting them, the Dashnaks had space for "Great Armenia" completely free from any nation other than the Armenian. The criminal propaganda absurd ideas drove Armenians in the middle of a war between the two empires in the line of fire to by the extermination of the local population to build a chimerical state.
     
    After the peace agreement Russian troops, leaving the front, delivered weapons to the Armenians, who not only continued to hold a part of Turkish territory, but did not hesitate to unleash a war with neighboring Azerbaijan and Georgia by presenting their territorial claims.
 
      Armenians since ancient times, monopolizing trade, settled over a large area, creating a compact point foci of residence. At the time of the conquest of Georgia by Russia in Tbilisi, 60% of the population were Armenians. Even during the Soviet era, Armenians settled in the North Caucasus and the Black Sea, focusing mainly in the resort towns and, of course, known to the Armenian diaspora in Moscow. In Azerbaijan, a large number of Armenians living not only in Karabakh, [c Azerbaijani-Karabakh (Gara bang) - "see snow"] a district of Baku predominantly Armenian population, not numerically inferior Karabakh Armenians, called Armenikent. Therefore, it is possible that after the Baku-Karabakh should become part of Great Armenia. Few people know that the Dashnaks in 1918, raising an armed uprising and seized power in Baku, massacred, and Azerbaijanis, saving lives, fled from the city. To prevent the complete destruction of Baku Armenian rebels, Turkey sent troops to Baku. This history is silent.
   
      To understand the place in those days, events in the Caucasus, and the current situation it is necessary to know the history, and not the one that was written in the Kremlin offices and served the totalitarian communist power. The real story was hidden from the people of the Soviet empire, if not supplanted by a lie. Since the conquest of the Khanate Russian Erivanskogo (one of the Azerbaijani khanate), its ethnic composition began to change with time acceleration. Erivan fortress town was founded Rivangulu Khan, hence the name of Erivan. The population there is 90% were Turkic (Azerbaijani), the remaining 10% equally accounted for Kurds and Armenians. To strengthen in the conquered new lands, Moscow decides to change the ethnic composition of the population in the border area with Turkey. To this end, since 1828 in the former Erivanskoe and Nakhichevan khanates begins mass migration of Armenians from Turkey and Persia. By 1897, according to the conducted census in the Yerevan district of the Azerbaijani population is 51.4%, and the Armenian has already reached 38.5%. With the advent of the Armenian nationalist party "Dashnaktsutyun" threat to the Turkic (Azerbaijani) population during the First World War and especially increases catastrophic nature takes over the entire territory of Azerbaijan after the overthrow of the monarchy in Russia. Only through the timely assistance provided by Turkey failed to prevent the ethnic cleansing against Azerbaijanis.
 
    However, when the Soviet government after the establishment of the Armenian Republic and the persecution of the Nazis, the Dashnaks, Moscow's policy to oust Azerbaijanis has not changed. In the center of Yerevan is liquidated history of the city - demolished the fortress wall and completely destroyed the Shah's palace. Stalin, and he did not give up on their aggressive war plans for mastering the Black Sea straits, preparing for war with Turkey and considering Azerbaijanis "fifth column", it is decided on the deportation of the Azerbaijani population from Armenia. Is published for the decision N 4083 of 23 December 1947 "On resettlement of collective farmers and other Azerbaijani population from the Armenian SSR to the Kura-Araz lowland of Azerbaijan SSR". In the same judgment is given permission to the Armenian SSR Council of Ministers of foreign arrivals to settle Armenians in the Azeri population vacated buildings and homes. In those postwar years, thanks to the propaganda in Armenia resettled 80 thousand Armenians from abroad. Notably, during the Soviet era, Armenia becomes unlike other Soviet republics increasingly mono-ethnic. It should be noted that the nationalist tendencies as a consequence of the ideology of the party "Dashnaktsutyun" Armenian has not disappeared. So Armenian terrorists made a series of terrorist acts January 8, 1977 in Moscow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzZWB5GZU-k).
   

   Under Gorbachev, taking advantage of the weakening of central authority, resurrected militias Armenian militants began to cast out, the Azerbaijanis living in Armenia. For the first time after the war with the Nazis in the Soviet Union there were refugees again. They were Azerbaijani from Kafan. Information about the iniquity was not resolved things happening in Armenia. Then there was no publicity. The authorities did not dare to let the refugees from Armenia in Baku, stopping them in Sumgait. The irresponsible behavior of the authorities made the position of the homeless, the unemployed people a real nightmare. On this and hoped to Armenia. Sumgayit events is a well-planned provocation to blame for vandalism Azerbaijanis and begin an unprecedented scale with the help of nowhere who had taken arms, the expulsion of Azerbaijanis from Armenia and Karabakh, and all this in the Soviet era. It is hard to imagine that suddenly appeared in the Soviet Union weapons from ordinary citizens in the short term, and even in such large numbers! And it should be good to understand the chronology of events - Kapan was first, then Sumgait and then to Karabakh war. These are the facts and this is true.

   Today, in the face of Russia, artificially created Russian state, Armenia has only ally in the Caucasus and is trying to use it to restore its former influence, but this is possible only in case of war.
   
     Being in power in Yerevan War Party does not leave in this situation is no chance for a peaceful resolution of the Karabakh crisis. In the event of the outbreak of war, Armenia, using considerable superiority in weaponry, can win, it is possible that the Armenian troops will be in Baku, but hardly a military victory, decides that any politically. In terms of economic neither Armenia nor Russia will not receive any dividends. In the oil fields no money will not give the restoration and maintenance. It is safe to assume that Turkey will be involved in the war. At the same time it is unlikely that Moscow will decide to open hostilities with Turkey, as NATO with the issue of retaliation against an aggressor who attacked the country - block member and can then deploy a large-scale battle for the Caspian Sea and the world is on the verge of World War III . Most likely, Armenia alone will have to fight with the Turkic unit with material and diplomatic support Moscow. It is not difficult to foresee which side will take America, already had time to invest in the Caspian oil. Washington should understand that the strengthening of the axis Moscow - Tehran, is a potential threat and Middle Eastern oil region, to which America has spent a lot of money and effort.
 
 
   02.07.2004

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