Topic: [Article] How ChatGPT Will Destabilize White-Collar Work (Read 797 times)

Corps does not give a crap about control and the limit of how can they use AI. They'll use it whatever they want as the end user. If it means by saving money for the company and not needing of people working on it, they would use it over and over.
That's what AI is for anyway. People say that it's to ease the process of something that's normally done manual, but they forgot that it kinda cuts the job for people on whatever industry they're specializing.

Quite ironic that programmers (well even me), are working our asses off to lead ourselves out of our own job through automation.

I kinda have mixed feelings for this. Sure, it would kind of help those unemployed survive since they can afford their basic needs but knowing that it isn't the same as before where luxury is also part that you can spend your money at.
Just my rough upfront feeling. I never heard of this UBI before.

This issue is not "discussed" at all, because REQUESTS (with partial data) and answers to them are on the "other side", and we do not know how their storage and post-processing is ensured! This one is like a "problem" of working with a search engine - you send a request to it, and then you start to be haunted by advertising that you are somewhere when you asked, and maybe even as a joke

But I had in mind a slightly different nuance: I already wrote that this system can hardly be called a full-fledged intelligence. This is an intellectual superstructure over a huge knowledge base, systematized and collected knowledge and data. But this does not guarantee, for example, writing error-free code, for example, to control a nuclear power plant, or an aircraft! Yes, the system writes simple code quite well, and for example for Python - in compliance with all PEP XXX, but this is an application where errors are not critical.

We can't discount the magic of human ingenuity, and AI certainly has its flaws. Artificial intelligence was created by nerds in order to serve as a useful tool, not to steal the spotlight from us. Having him as our wingman has made everything easier. Don't get any Terminator ideas in your head. Artificial intelligence is capable, to be sure, but it won't start creating duplicates of itself any time soon. That's like hoping a microwave to produce a three-star meal: not gonna happen!

Our intuition is like a radar amid the fog of uncertainty; it's a superpower only humans possess. AI, bless its circuitry, is data-driven to a fault and lacks the creative flair that humans bring to the table. Let's toast the human-AI tag team, which allows us to reap the benefits of artificial intelligence's brute might while continuing to astound with our ingenuity, adaptability, and gut intuition.

Saw this on a tiktok vid (I know lmao, way of a source to rely upon yeah?) but there is an optimistic approach to this scenario.

Soon as AI takes over all of our menial work, of course everyone's going to be unemployed and utter chaos will ensue as people will rush to break every bot they see, as if that's gonna solve the crisis. However, after the fog clears, governments around the world, left with no choice since everyone's unemployed and people have to be fed somehow, will establish the coveted, the long-awaited, Universal Basic Income. People will be paid for doing things that they like (free money) and this will uplift the standard of living everywhere. This also means that everyone can focus more on things that would advance the civilization's status, like solving starvation for areas that are far-reaching, providing healthcare, all that kind of stuff. It's a little unrealistic to some but I can see this happening. Tell me your thoughts.

Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@mulligan.tv/video/7091031836092157190

AI is good, it works faster and cheaper and you can modify it on each layer which gives a wide range of features, Consider Chatgpt you can do literally as many things as you want with it. For example, I got a University Project importing data to Teradata and the data was quite big at least n my scale and there was a restriction it should be imported by manual process,

♣ Traditional Scripting
♣ Table creation
♣ Long Queries

So simple I just copied data and created queries and modified text with a few commands rest of the importing process was easy as the main work was managing and modifying the data as columns names, tables, etc. It took some time but worked for me. I will say that it's like fast food AI is good. But it's not much impressive because the currency efficiency level is limited as I said I also modified data with ChatGPT but out of 5 commands it works well with only 1 or 2 commands. It gives pretty average results currently I think white-collar jobs had no issue with AI for the future I am not sure.

Future targets of AI can be, but currently they are safe around 80% in my views.

♣ Devlopers
♣ Content writers
♣ Graphic designers
♣ SEO Experts

Ai writes, creates, develop decent but the quality which even an average developer creator and optimizer can provide it still much better then then the AI. Its good for quick works for Quality production there is still a decent time & developemnts required.
 

That’s not even a valid statement anyways. There is no way AI will replace entire job line. Who would do the dirty jobs, who will replace the oil rig suction assembly, or who will manufacture the chips required to run the computers? AI won’t be able to do everything so let it be. The whole discussion is pointless. Just to add, I remembered Elon talking about AI being dangerous than nukes or something, why would he say it OR what’s that he knows that we don’t know. I still don’t believe that statement by the way.

Last week I had a conversation with a teacher about the story of human progress. And this almost helped me change my view of many tools in life, about the content of the story about the fact that in the past people did not have many modern means of transportation, instead used Using traction from cattle or walking was the way to go, but with the advent of bicycles, motorbikes, cars, trains, ships, and planes, transportation became easier, and when the advent of the internet made connecting and sharing information very quickly. And I understand that the emergence of AI and its wonderful applications in work is really effective to help people run their lives more quickly, instead of being afraid that it will replace people in the workplace in some areas, learn how to use and control it.

We can point out AI's limitations and we cannot underestimate the capacity and capability of human to get the job done, the developers of these AIs' are not meant to replace human, they developed AI to be a tool to help human makes their job easier and simplified.

It just happens that AI works perfectly because humans aspire to create a perfect tool and because of that perfection, we think that AI will replace humans.

I don't want to think that we are going to be in Terminator-like scenarios, because AI is still limited, Thee AI cannot create AI they will never become creators of another AI and they should not be programmed to create another AI, because a human has insight that we called hunch or intuition while AI just relies on data.

I recently read a document that claims to be a leaked internal Google document called "We Have No Moat, And Neither Does OpenAI". I can't be sure of its authenticity, but I found the content to be quite interesting.

Most companies have strict information secrecy rules put in place that prevents employees from sending confidential company data to 3rd-party servers. Since ChatGPT is trained on some of the questions you asked it, that means it could potentially leak intellectual property secrets, which is why places like Samsung have already banned its use internally - and also why white-collar jobs aren't in immediate danger (the blue collar jobs though, I would be more worried for them as even automation can make them redundant).

Participated in the testing of Chat-GPT in the early stages. And I have been using it for a long time (in relation to the history of this decision).
My personal opinion:
- Very cool assistant
- Gorgeous knowledge base with user-friendly human interface
- Sometimes a kind of creativity in creative tasks Probably everyone remembers about "salmon in the river"
- Helps to solve simple and intermediate level problems.
- I would not trust him with responsible decisions
- However, I'm not sure what can be allowed, for example, to engage in the complex development of a large project. My area is IT, and here he is, well, to put it mildly, not a "star" everywhere.
Although it is possible that when it becomes exactly Artificial Intelligence, the situation will change - unfortunately, here the human brain loses in terms of learning speed and the ability to process mega-volumes of various data...

If that's skeptical, I'm well beyond that point--if AI ever gets to the point where it can actually replace human beings in the workplace, capitalism is going to be completely redefined.  Probably corporations will have to pay an enormously high tax rate in order to support all the people unable to find jobs, which means bigger government and a world moving closer toward George Orwell's dystopian vision (though we're damn close to that already).

It's either that or Terminators start coming back from the future to kill Skynet in the crib.  But you know what?  By the time that happens, I'll have done that whole dust-to-dust thing and won't have to worry about it.  My condolences to future generations; technology really has given you an ass-reaming, even if the current generations haven't realized it yet.

I agree with your personal point of view. AI and machine learning technologies can really automate certain tasks and improve the productivity, I think they cannot fully replace human skills and creativity. There will always be a need for human touch in areas such as decision-making, problem solving, and interpersonal communication. However, it is true that some jobs may become redundant because of the AI automation, but new job opportunities may also emerge as a result of technological advancements.

I have tested ChatGPT for a few weeks and can say the following. I think in the very near future, at least 50% (this is a conservative estimate, possibly 80%) of white-collar workers working in commercial structures will have problems finding employment.

That's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.

I semi-agree on your statement about "intelligence" - it's just a complex term, and does not fully apply to what is considered intelligent in a human.
There are a lot of levels however, where it's already not possible to distinguish between an AI and a human creation - be that images or a text or any other sort of "creative" output.
With further adjustments / added filters and improved databases I think the gap towards something that feels identical to the interaction we would see from a human will become smaller and smaller and finally vanish. - Unless conscious efforts are made to preserve some sort of difference.

It doesn't matter that the way by which the output was reached has nothing to do with the way the "output" of a human works - If you cannot see the difference in the result anymore this will have massive impacts on human society. There's no way around it.

If you look globally, then the problem of Mankind is not in the lack of jobs, but in the slowdown in population growth and the lack of new undeveloped territories. 

The history of scientific and technological progress is directly related to the growth of the population of the planet Earth. 

However, this growth has been exponential.  The larger the population of the Earth, the more smart people among them, the more smart people, the more scientists, researchers, mathematicians, engineers, visionaries, futurologists, philosophers.  Currently, the growth of the world's population has begun to slow down. 

As a result, there was a risk of slowing down scientific and technological progress. 

However, neural networks will come to the aid of humanity!  Modern scientists will have tireless and smart assistants at their disposal to help make new scientific discoveries!

I agree. The fact that ChatGPT is working flawlessly is extremely impressive. But in order to create a massive supply chain of data for AI, it also squeezes out human labor based on whatever aspect is a problem. I think to use human labor -> increase the risk of unemployment and job loss for workers correspondingly inhumane. And because it's a tool, it can create 2 sets of opposite faces with replaced code snippets. After all, AI is also a technology that allows humans to form and apply based on the end goal. Suddenly want to see the movie about rebellious robots. Lol

Yes, it seems the most likely outcome is that AI will boost efficiency of existing workers rather than fully replacing them. Which still means that hundreds of millions will lose jobs. And if tech companies will have high profit margins due to boosted productivity, maybe high taxation and wealth redistribution will become more viable than it is now. Plus I think some entirely new job opportunities will be emerging with new technologies and trends, so humanity is not doomed like some people like to say.

This is just the beginning...

We are entering an era of technological singularity.  Technologies begin to develop so quickly that after a while a person will no longer understand the principle of their work. 

Suppose that after some time, the developers will enable the ChatGPT and midjourney neural networks to communicate directly (without human mediation).  These neural networks will invent a new language for communicating with each other and begin to evolve rapidly.  At the same time, a person will not understand either the language of communication of these neural networks, or the final result of their work. 

Human interaction with such systems is well described in Stanislav Lem's legendary novel "Solaris".

AI has been a buzz word for long time, I still remember Deep Blue "beating" Kasparov and all. But I do not think that most white collar work can be achieved even in the next decade. It may be a close collaborator to white collars, basically removing the need to do the repetitive bits of the work. I am kind of happy that google guesses half of the time what I am going to write... but still is only 50%

Actually, nowadays many things have been replaced by machines. When it comes to education issues, before we needed to buy books to learn something related to education or whatever we needed, now we just need to open Google to learn and study whatever we need. It's as if right now we don't need books to study, we just have to buy an electronic device in the form of a cellphone or laptop and then access all of that. And now we don't need teachers, just ask on google, and google is ready to answer everything we want.

Maybe five years from now, the sophisticated tools you mentioned can also replace many things, thereby reducing jobs, or human services are needed only a little.

But there are important things that need human services to teach them, one of which is morality. Because this does not need theory, but requires direct practice from the teacher.

Another simple thing, before it required a lot of farmers to work a piece of land, now there are machines that can only be done by one person.

I don't talk too much about technology, because technological problems have been going on for a long time, it's just that technology is getting more and more sophisticated.

Previously a person's sex could only be known after giving birth, now 4 to 5 months the human sex has been known. This is the sophistication of technology that can change everything, and can replace everything.

But machine technology still needs humans to control it. I think that machine technology cannot run optimally, let alone replace all human work. I think the more sophisticated the technology, the more human services are needed to operate it, at least to control the working motion of the machine itself. It's just that those who don't have the skills will be left behind, and lose their jobs.

Perhaps the picture you provided was generated by the "midjourney" neural network for artists.  I would not draw conclusions about the failure of neural networks based on one picture ...

Firstly, neural networks appeared relatively recently.  For example, the "midjourney" neural network has four versions.  And the last - version 4, it is the most advanced in technical terms.  And it is quite possible that this most advanced version of the neural network already perceives the essence of salmon not in the form of canned food, but in the form of live fish. 

Secondly, at present, neural networks are not able to directly interact with the real world.  The neural network only knows about salmon from people.  The neural network is guided by information from the Internet. 

When the neural network connects directly to the real world through a video camera system, it will be able to see a live salmon and understand that it is he who swims in the river, and not canned food. 

Thirdly, you need to be able to communicate with neural networks.  An experienced user of neural networks is able to explain the neural network - what kind of picture he wants to get from it.

I have seen it writing near perfect code. When you don’t like a certain part, it modifies that part and comes  up with a better one. It is definitely not a copy/paste search engine.

In the end it is just a tool and can be as smart as its user.

When you tell it to write a poem, it will bring a crap generic poem. When you give it lots of details it will write a way more detailed and original poem.

Even if it was a damn search engine, it is miles faster than google and actually getting shit done. (Google only points you the way and nowadays it is not even good at it)

Ah, coincidentally I tried and tested this website a week ago, debating with my friend whether or not this ChatGPT is overhyped. After testing various tasks, such as writing a couple of paragraphs up to create an essay. I can say that this program is only a text spinner plus. You'll get caught fast if your editor has the skill/experience to catch plagiarism. The content itself is good, but it just copy-paste-and-spin/replaces here and there. It is much more like an art AI that creates artworks from images created by humans. So maybe this kind of AI will destabilize dumb works, but its capability is far from human.

Problem is that people are choosing over-saturated professions. A lot of people finish university and want to enter entry-level jobs in professions like laws, finance, engineering and so on but they are unable to find and then blame older people and technological progress.
Who wants to become a carpenter? Who wants to become a plumber? Who wants to become an electrician? Who wants to become pavers installer? No one, while the older people in these fields are retiring and demand & salary for skilled workers is increasing. It's also easier to get entry-level positions with higher than entry-level office jobs payment.

AI can only collect data from the internet to gather information to provide the best result. But human mind is so complicated and wonderful that they will come up with a new idea every day. Maybe not every day, but you get the point. In order to teach the AI to do that new thing, you have to teach it first. So yeah, we will always need the human touch. And everything has a limit, so does AI. So when it run out of new things, we have to come up with that new idea.

   -   You know, as long as it is made by man or invented by man, I am sure that in the end it will be affected by a man too. And that means that everything invented by man is mostly destroyed by man. For example, cars, there would be no accidents on the road if no cars were invented, the next is a process that was also invented by humans, but even though most people know that processed food is not healthy, they continue to enjoy it, as a result, many people get sick.

That article is no different from what we are talking about in this topic.

Well, actually, I participated in the process of testing this system, I have been using it for my own purposes for a long time.
Explain what you wanted to invent, but, as always, did not express it very skillfully?
Surely you can tell how he can write lyrics, draw pictures and write music on his own? It's not Artificial Intelligence, don't worry Or did you mean something else? Then explain? Just not the classic answer of a person who read the title somewhere, he doesn’t understand, and with any more or less complex question he answers something like “Well, what will I explain to you if you don’t know anything about him” or “search the Internet, I don’t have time to explain such simple things"

If you start to study the subject area and not snatch out "beautifully sounding abbreviations", then it is possible that you will understand what it is about, and what, for example, Neural Networks, Deep Learning, Machine Learning, Artificial Intelligence, decision-making systems, and much more. And most importantly - the DIFFERENCE between these concepts

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Oh, I think I understand - did you decide that this example shows the work and essence of ChatGPT ? )))) no, I showed that such powerful systems, almost endowed with "intelligence", are just processing and projection of those primary data with which they were trained. And I will add - in this example, the system knows exactly what the salmon fish looks like and not its fillet, but it cannot really understand the essence of the issue and compare the need, and draws the most frequently downloaded and requested "tag" with other entities. And only by adding this "error" to the training dataset, the system will once ask - "can you draw a whole live fish or steak"
But by the way, the formation of answers and questions is a different technology, and it is called LLM - Large Language Model. Plus a deep learning system.

Well, about texts and pictures - this is all the result of the work of the deep learning system, Dall-E 2, this is an "engine" that works separately from ChatGPT, but supplies "content for answers"

In the GPT-3 version, the system was trained on 570 gigabytes of initial "knowledge". On the basis of this, about 200 billion parameters were formed. I can tell you a lot more, but I won’t waste time, you have the American Internet at your fingertips, the American ChatGPT - they will help you

 
Although I agree that ChatGPT is called "artificial intelligence", and the name of the company unambiguously flaunts "Open + AI" or open artificial intelligence.

Yes you are right, actually it will not remove all the white collar jobs maybe some of it yes we cannot deny the fact but most of us only see chatgpt but I saw many AI tools that is already been in the market such as CopyAI but the thing with this tool instead of removing the work to most of the writers and copywriters it becomes a tool to help them, and not all business owner want this tool they still need generic ones. What I mean is technology is advancing so are we, we cannot deny the fact that technology will replace some works but let us all use CCTV that at first a major threat to Guards but still it proves that a human can still be above machines and technology since we are the one who creates and uses it.

You do not seem to understand what ChatGPT is and confuse it with generative-adversarial neural networks for generating pictures, such as Midjourney or Stable Diffusion.

The problem is that we often confuse learning systems/neural networks with artificial intelligence. These are completely different concepts and systems. And the goals are different.
ChatGPT can hardly be called an artificial intelligence or a "matrix" In fact, it is a huge repository of information that can find the right answers among trillions of blocks of information and formulate answers similar to human speech. A sort of Google search engine is a wrapped human-like interface for issuing search results.
Yes, neural networks and other technologies work here to collect and systematize primary information. But this system has no INTELLIGENCE.
I hope you have already seen this masterpiece: "The neural network was asked to draw a salmon swimming against the current. Well, she drew it."



In ChatGPT, the picture is much better, but the intelligence never appeared there. Since one of the areas I do is IT (development), and like everyone else I saw how ChatGPT "produces ready-made ideal code." I tried to set a task for him, something from the area "Write code so that when you click something, something opens somewhere." The system began to ask clarifying questions so that the problem statement was extremely accurately described in order to understand which "code from the knowledge base to take." If there is no clear statement of the problem, you will not receive any code. More precisely, if there is a place where there can be variability and you need to figure out the essence of the process yourself, ChatGPT will not help you. Therefore, if we talk about "replacement" - perhaps he will replace some of the "pioneers" of developers, who are essentially "translators" from human to programming language, not difficult tasks. Although I agree that as the system learns and the knowledge base accumulates, the level of "replacement" may rise

Are you trying to insult me? No I am not a Klaus fan. I despise him but I also understand him somehow. You are right that most nations are basically slaves to wef and that's because almost every big international company is a wef member.

https://www.weforum.org/partners

Being a wef member is like becoming immune to certain stuff. If they want to get big, they must pay klaus a fee.

Do you have a link to the article behind a paywall / need-to-register?

Regarding your statement: Sure, nobody would argue that a complete replacement of "white collar work" is imminent. But I would 100% agree that many jobs are indeed becoming obsolete over the next few years, because they can be managed by just one person with the help of A"I".
All things take time and some industries will take longer to change, but it will happen.
New opportunities will (already are) arising of this, including new job opportunities, but I kind of doubt it will be enough to replace the old ones.

The unemployment problem that we have today is very much because everything is getting automated and that's basically getting even bigger with AI, I think it's a big problem. The industry part was true and that caused a big trouble, right now there are too many people who are unemployed and the older you get the harder it would be for you to find any job at all.

But at the same time, we are talking about now very young people not finding a job that easily, only people between 30-50 can find jobs easier than others, if you are a new graduate then it will be very hard already and now with AI getting bigger, it will become even worse. This will make bosses and CEO's richer, and hundreds of thousands more people unemployed.

It's not about chatgpt doing your work, it's about how we would find money after that. Lets be real, the industry age allowed less people to be employed afterwards, which meant that there would be less people needed in a factory, and the assembly line made it even harder to find a job there, so blue collar work became less and less paid job. Something that you could make a living from commonly, became harder.

But that opened the doors for people who had college degrees to find more and more jobs, and nowadays that is not good neither. Someone who has 2 masters degrees may never be able to buy a house in some cities, and now chatgpt will make it harder. So, where will we find money to survive? Where will our income come?

ChatGPT was created quite recently.  Let's ask ourselves a question - what will ChatGPT be like in 1 year?  And after 2 years?  3 years later?

In addition, at present, artificial intelligence does not interact directly with the real world.  He receives information only from people.  However, very soon he will be able to receive the most up-to-date and complete information directly from the real world (as a person does). 

How much will this increase the capabilities of ChatGPT?  How much more effectively can he then solve various problems?  I don't have an answer to this question!

Ai do have vast information but they are very limited since they don't have any experience and logical adjustment needed in certain kinds of situations.  Indeed AI can give us precise history and events but they will fall behind in analysis especially when there is a given variable that is yet to be known.  they are also somehow poor in application of logic and troubleshoooting complex problem.  I also think they are great in simple tasks and records but I believe the AI industry still needs decades to be able to compete against human's ability to read situations and understand complex circumstances.

Are you also a Klaus Schwab fan?
As I understand it, those nations that are used to resisting and not submitting to world leaders are now being destroyed.
And artificial intelligence will set limits for each resident for spending on certain needs.

I agree that there will be need for someone to manage AI as well to use in a business, which could create business chances, but it would also eliminate a lot of jobs at the same time. Just because it could open up a new job field, doesn't mean that it will not take anyone job, it definitely will be. Our work here is to figure out how we can be on the right side of history and find ourselves that either wouldn't be taken by AI, or it would be basically working around AI to manage something better. This way we could keep being employed for a long time. I am still in my early 30's, and need to work for another 30 years, god knows what would be invented by then, I need to keep being on my toes constantly to get employed.

ChatGPT will create new jobs and not the other way around as most people may think. I remember when people use to laugh at those with the title prompt engineer and think that they will be paid peanut but just today, I say an opening for a prompt engineer with an annual salary of $250k plus. That is the power of AI. Who is a prompt engineer?

The job description sees writing the prompts necessary to get the best responses from AIs as a skill all of its own. Wrangling ChatGPT requires a deeper understanding of how AI works — hence “engineer” — as well as domain expertise, be that coding, marketing or homework. An online marketplace called Promptbase has already sprung up, where prompt engineers can sell their carefully crafted instructions for image-generation tools such as Midjourney. For a couple of bucks, you can buy pre-written templates for “cute robotic animal pictures” and “3D game renders”. 
Source - Financial times

It's definitely fascinating to see what this form of AI is able to do, but I also am skeptical about the ability for it to replace many jobs. At the very least there will be people needed to validate the output and potentially formulate what actual information/scripting/data extraction is needed to achieve the end job most effectively. At the end of the day it is often just plagiarizing information and combining many different sources to achieve it's end goal. For more up to date information it also needs feeding and much of the important data going in (e.g. news and developments) is being created by people. There will definitely be a few jobs lost to this sort of automation right now but it's hard to judge who will be most affected.

Well I think it's important to first note that artificial intelligence, or "AI" does not actually even exist yet, and we are likely quite a ways off from actually having created AI (self learning).  Chap GPT is a pretty cool new program and these types of programs are only going to get better, but they aren't legitimate AI so there upside to replace humans is still quite limited.  Surely this type of stuff will start to replace humans, but for certain things, and I think it'll take a lot longer than many are predicting.

Some people regularly lose jobs when technological advancements happen, and we'll probably see it this time as well. I've talked to ChatGPT on specialized topics of the area I majored in at university, and I can say it could pass oral or short written exams, and support a pretty good conversation, the kind not many humans can support on such topics. So I am impressed, yes, but if you take time, you can see the limitations of ChatGPT pretty fast as well. So I think that many people with college degrees will get their jobs, they'll just be responsible for cherry-picking and editing AI-generated texts or use AI-generated texts as a start to write something better, more in the line with the brand's marketing strategy or something like this.

Well i have to step in and correct that Elon Musk himself isn't working on anything related to neural interfaces. He has not capasity to even understand the tech ad he has hired professionals to build what he wants, no matter if it works or is even possible with current knowledge. In fact neuralink has managed to kill 1,500 animals because of rushing. Yet he is insisting that human testing should begin in 5 months or so.

But sure, when the tech is ready, enchantments will be blurring a line between humans and computers. I mean tech could be build in biological form with custom biological code in order not to be rejected by white blood cells, who knows. After that we would have 3 build in systems instead of 2.

Yes, of course AI will not take over all professional work because it has limitations in its use, only focuses on certain areas, ChatGPT is one of the AI that is projected as a search engine and human helper to facilitate human work.
Yes, today humans have professional abilities at once, but other AI will also be projected for other professional abilities, maybe AI will exist in every business sector to make it easier for business people and reduce costs that employers incur for employees, such as insurance, benefits holidays and others, of course, even someone with professional skills will face this difficult story in the future.

In my opinion, in relation to the diagnosis of diseases, artificial intelligence has very great prospects. 

Artificial intelligence can analyze big data, which, in principle, every specific doctor is not able to do - a living person (even if he does not sleep at night, but reads the medical records of various patients). 

I am more optimistic about the development of artificial intelligence systems.  I believe that we (humans) should be friendly to artificial intelligence and use it to solve various problems. 

Our human mission is not to solve problems (artificial intelligence will eventually learn to solve various problems much more efficiently than a living person). 

Our human mission is to formulate tasks and problems, because no one but us can properly formulate them.  And this is our undoubted advantage over artificial intelligence.

I'm not as optimistic as you, because unfortunately I've personally seen how evil people can be, and on the other hand, how strong their desire is to play God and thus cause new disasters (pandemics, wars, famine) and maybe one day the destruction of all humanity. It is true that we are all born equal in the sense that there is good and evil in us, it just seems that evil is winning that battle more and more and it seems to me that people have some kind of gene for self-destruction.

I just hope that I will not experience the time when robots and AI will be the ones who will decide whether I am sick or not, whether I can buy something or not, or that one day I will be fired because they decided to replace me with AI or some robot.

Technological singularity is exactly what you are talking about. Sadly, I believe the pace will not be slower. As you say, profit is the number one reason. Then, human loves to explore. It is both scary and exciting at the same time. But it is a fact we have to accept. VUCA is also a term to describe the current situation.

Learning is the key. Never stop learning. Sharpening our skills, learning new perspectives, try to open our mind. There will always be issues waiting for someone to solve. So instead of asking, start acting. Each minor good action we made is a foundation for something greater. We can simply help the poor neighbor, or create online resources for others to learn.

Humans have made a lot of mistakes in the past. We will continue to make mistakes, apparently. Nevertheless, I believe in the capabilities of humans. We are all born good, right ?

Yes, Elon Musk is actively working on the creation of neural interfaces.

So far, this technology is planned to be used for the rehabilitation of patients with brain damage.  However, imagine that this technology will be successfully applied and the former patients will acquire superpowers? 

For example, they will be able to interact directly with artificial intelligence intelligence (for example, ChatGpt). 

It can be assumed that in such a situation, all people will want to use neural interfaces.  And this will lead to the fact that people will actually turn into androids.

I think that this is a question that does not interest those who should discuss it, because the first place is profit, and people are becoming more and more expendable. In a free economy and an increasingly callous society, no one will be able to prevent private entities from replacing people with robots and AI, just as today no one can prevent global companies from laying off tens of thousands of people because they don't need them at the moment.

If we are already heading in a direction from which there is no return and towards the fact that fewer and fewer people will be able to work and earn a living, then we should have tried to slow down the increase in the number of people on Earth, especially in poor countries that are rapidly increasing their population. If you can't feed one child, where is the logic in having five or six of them?

Excellent point. The rapid expansion of AI and other technologies necessitates careful evaluation of their labor market consequences. Even if robots and AI can achieve things humans can't, what happens to people whose jobs will be automated?

Retraining programs that teach new skills and move people into occupations computers can't do may be a solution. Corporations may likewise be under pressure to prioritize employment security over short-term profits. It's crucial to have frank discussions about how to make sure that everyone benefits from technological breakthroughs and the future of labor.

Maybe now there is still doubt about that, but 10 years later maybe you will see that the AI developed by ChatGPT can disrupt human work without the need to standardize education or go through educational stages because it can work immediately after the big data needed for work it has been included in the program, I think this will be the initial stage where everyone will look at AI for the effectiveness of work efficiency from the bottom to the top.

Even though it is only a few points, it will be very scary because there is still a lot of competition between humans who cannot get jobs, especially when new competitors come with AI robots that are able to work tirelessly and learn quickly.

In sci-fi movies, we can see what the future could look like if artificial intelligence reached such a level that it could be equal to humans, and it is obvious that some people are obsessed with it and invest huge amounts of money to achieve it one day.

Today, slightly more sophisticated robots are already replacing people in production facilities, and I watched a documentary in which a factory that used to employ around 50 people left only 2 people, and everything else is now done by robots. The owner is satisfied with their efficiency, the fact that they work without rest, do not go to the toilet or take annual leave, and do not ask for a salary increase.

If we look at the fact that the population of the world is increasing, and that robots and AI are starting to replace people, the question is where will all these people work and earn a living? Don't get me wrong that I'm against progress and modernization, but people and their destinies should come first, and only then the profits of big companies, which even today are not very sensitive to people's destinies and treat people like numbers.

I don't know why no one thinks that if the AI does every mental work and there is no need to learn, (yeah, no need because what's the point if I spend years to learn something and I won't be able to use my knowledge?) humanity will degrade. The less you use your brain, the worse your cognitive abilities are becoming. If the AI is on so high level that it's able to perform that tasks that humans are able to do, then definitely it will support itself to evolve without the need of human, I mean, it will absorb the data and filter it automatically.

To be honest, the opinion of AI replacing the humans in near future sounds illogical. This phrase always reminds me when I was hearing back in 2010's that we would be able to build html/css website in software like converting psd to html/css but that has never happened and even for functional basic website, you need a human to type html/css code.

There will really have a lot of jobs that will help productivity through chatgpt or any other the same niche of AI. But I agree, that this time it may be on hype but getting on some logical jobs that really need the thinking of a person, it won't be able to replace it. Ai/Machine learning is still in its infancy and I'm very optimistic about it because it automated a lot of jobs but doesn't mean they'll wholly replace people to work for it. Maybe, to reduce the cost as it will lessen the personnel for such jobs but not entirely.

It won't affect their jobs but it will rather help them to be more productive at work. They can now finish their task faster with the help of the AI or ChatGpt. Those who don't have a college degree has a limited knowledge but they can also use those tools to help them with their designated tasks. In the era that we have today, it's not about the college degree that matters but it's about how skilful or wise you are. Internet and software are now accesible. We can able to use them at our advantage.

I think I am already fine to have on these AI powered tools and I don't want to become a half-robot. That sounds scary lol but that was possible. I heard inventors like Elon musk are now inventing a chip that will be implanted inside a human body.

If your job is threatened by an AI that writes articles, then it means you were already in danger years ago.


So, copywriters, journalists, and customer service, since when are those considered "skilled office workers".
Let's look right here at the news that makes it to the forum, all those blogs all those so-called whitepapers, and everything, does it look to you like journalists these days are "highly skilled"? Have you recently called customer support and had zero doubts the guy wasn't at his first job and he somehow got to the wrong desk at the wrong company?

The whole ChatGPT is blown out of proportion, it will replace things that were already replaceable since they already lacked creativity.

What class of skilled AI really threatens to put out of business or at least shrink it has nothing to do with freelancer content creators, it's actual tasks that can't be performed anymore by humans despite their skills on the same level. In our company, we went down from having 20 guys in charge of route planning to 2 managing data and 4 of them in charge of monitoring and checking the results the program generates, right now the soft we use can generate routes and delivery times for a shitload of trucks in minutes, I can't really say more about it but it can actually change the instruction for an entire deposit crew and their tasks the split moment a report of cargo not making based only on constant traffic data, until a call operator would have talked to three guys in charge noted down and typed instructions the program has done it 1000 times already.

There are hundreds of other jobs where an AI is taking over, from farming to architecture and manufacturing, the content thingy was blown out of proportion because the ones in charge of the news are the ones feeling threatened now.
But as I said, if you can be replaced by ChatGPT you were far from being a skilled worker and pillar of the company.

It's all about AI and the topic of destabilizing human work by AI is old because we all know that AI still need human to work and in order to have AI with the good performance you will need to provide data to your ai machine and these data is important to be monitored and gathered with a huge amount of data you can have good results, also you should consider that even if the ChatGPT got unsupervised systems and won't need the human to supervise it still need a human for monitoring data and for debugging the machine. So in the worst case, people should adopt their jobs and none will lose anything.

As long as everyone of them plays a part of not being a destructive member of society it wouldn't hurt anyone, most likely work i described would show up in statistics of having more stable society.
 Everything else would work pretty much similarly as it is now, it's not like we would be removing capitalism by universal income. Political scientist just study the subject, they don't make any rules but in my scenario most people would want to make more money anyway as we live in a capitalistic society, so they would either invent jobs, or re-educate themselves for new jobs.

But now you are talking about people who have work. And if you want less "idleness" in terms of working for your government to be running well oiled. There might as well be mandaroty civil service period in one's life for educating people in case of state wide emergencies so that logistics of workforce would work better when needed.

Problems on those countries are often very complex and very hard to solve. And as an outsiders we can only so much.

I do not think so.
Yes, ChatGPT will disrupt a lot of things in the world of work, but I do not totally agree that it will have any serious effect on white-collar work.
What I think will happen will is that only those without a college degree or those who do not upgrade their skills that will be affected adversely.
Well, the next five years is not far anymore, we wait to see if we would even become half-robots then.

Humans will always be complemented by technology. It will not fully replace them, but, human is the one who utilized it further. Let those who have concerns be doubted. But remember that the ability to adapt to the current change will always be essential things for humans.

Without a doubt that labour works or creative works will be handed over to AI, not fully, but to those who can utilise it. There is nothing wrong with it. As long as it gives efficiency and is effective. On one hand, personally, creative or artistic works require the human touch. Suppose an art generated by an artist and one from generative AI, even if the result is hardly noticeable or has similar tastes, knowing which art generated by the AI will reduce my satisfaction.

I also believe that laborious work currently still requires human intervention, the current AI advancements are in their infancy. So it always the main matter is that humans are complemented, not, replaced.

Yes, I agree with you. 

However, I am not sure that this is how geopoliticians who develop methods for managing large groups of people think.  Do these people really think that the world needs a large number of honest and decent people with a lot of free time?  I'm not sure. 

For example, on a warship, it is believed that at any given moment the sailor should be busy with some business.  Idleness on the ship is unacceptable! 

Many politicians in non-democratic countries also believe that people should be constantly engaged in the struggle for existence.  It can be a war with the enemy or hard, exhausting work under capitalism. 

If a person is busy competing in a large company, then he no longer has time and energy left for a revolution and attempts to overthrow the existing government.

Endless possibilities. Jobs are definitely going down at the movement and in the future when AI like this learns more than enough about the world, it will definitely take up the vacancies.

We say that at the end there will be some work which will always need human touch but come on, we went from black & white era to Colorful wireless era in no time! It's horrible to imagine how it's going to be even in the next 10 years.

Plus, population is endless. It is not going to stop. Births gonna happen, mortality is reducing with high tech medical research and thus earth gonna explode one day with jobless peeps everywhere.

Mostly those owners can benefit on this as it will lower their expenses through salary of the employees, though we still need people behind it like quality assurance as for sure there are some mistakes made by the AI that needs to be addressed by the human. But it is really sad truth that the possibility on this was very high and really can affect those in white collar jobs but it will open new sector of jobs for others. We cant really stop this so the best thing to do is we need to learn new skills apply for other type of work.

No doubt ChatGPT or AI has the potential to automate certain tasks that have traditionally been done by humans for such a long time now. They are programmed to replicate certain task but not every task that can be carried out by humans. At least not yet.
Jobs like customer service, data entry, content creation and similar jobs i believe can be successfuly done by AI.

Banks already using AI for some part of their services, but there is still the need for human presence and direction for these machines to work well. And yes, this will definitely result to people losing their jobs in those areas. The world is advancing in such a way that it becomes a threat to people's working abilities.

the thing about job removal and job creation where people fear AI.. its not the AI fault

here is a question for you
who decided that people need to be away from home for an average of 40 hours a week to be a flatline "full time"
why cant "full time be 25 hours" (5 hours a day)

thus allowing more personal time to raise the kids and enjoy life in a fair work life balance

in 24 hours people sleep ~0 hours (15left)
in 24 hours people eat  ~1.5 hours (13.5left)
in 24 hours people use bathroom  ~0.5 hours (13left)
then minus off the 8 hours of a 40hour week (5 left)
where 1 hour is usually commuting to or from work (4 left)
if you include a bit of time to wake up and get your bearings in the morning ready for work, or get home from work and switch your work mind off (3left)

leaves just 3 hours personal time out of 24(or more precisely out of 13 hours awake and ready to live life)

working say 5 hours is a more fair work:life balance

if minimum wage based on cost of living is $10 an hour based on a 40hour work week to cover essential bills
then a LIVING WAGE would be $16 on a 5hour workday

Anything related to creativity is at the risk of getting replaced by these AI programs in the near future ironically there won't be any new innovations if we cut down all the innovators and choose automation so it can go one or the other way.

We hear the universal basic income for everyone but it can't become real even if all the jobs took over by robots because why government is going to pay someone for doing nothing at all? They expect everyone to bring revenue to them or else they're just a burden to them.

Well it won't be replacing humans anytime soon but many jobs sure as hell are going to be replaced by AI. At the start there will be need for humans to oversee AI and work as a fail safe,
but this is not just about AI:s taking jobs. Every disruptive technology always makes some jobs obsolete and often some new jobs are invented because of it. I can remember people talking about blockchain taking out the middle man as a good thing. Being a middle man is someone's job as well.

Do you think that only paid jobs can give people meaning to life?
How about getting your meaning of life by being a decent human being and helping others?
By raising your kids and having more time with them?
Work on your emotional issues so you can be more stable and don't have as much issues with others.

There are ton of things in the field of self improvement you can work on if you don't have a job or other work to do.

CERTAIN jobs can be taken over by bots and robots

for instance "call-centre staff"
instead of needing a human to talk to a customer and check if an item is dispatched or to process a refund/manufacturers repair delivery pick-up, a bot can take over this role

yes bots try do do the silly webchat FAQ already, but this will increase where chatGPT can answer more sophisticated questions customers have concerns of. where an AI could actually be programmed to interact with customer accounts and dispatch and company warehouses and stuff to automate more of the "customer service" side of a business

the next evolution is obviously the text to speech. where by a call centre can tell the location of a customer and adapt its voice pattern to match the accent and dialect of the customer.

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it will see robots do more of the conveyor belt manufacturing(the repetitive jobs)
heck we can even see robots doing brick-laying on real estate developments

burger flipping at mcdonalds.
and car manufacturing(already so in the majority)

but when it comes to more skilled work where people need to think outside of the box, react to unforeseen changes, humans reign supreme..and thats because they have SKILLS and training that are there to aid their out of box reactions to unforeseen events

(note: colleges that train people to do mundane repetitive jobs that require no thinking.. is not really college/university worthy training.. basically if you have a diploma/degree in mcdonalds burger flipping. you have wasted 2-4 years of your life)

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bots and robots only thrive when they are able to work within a finite amount of variables they can control. in the real world there are things where new variable comes into play and changes the dynamic of a task. and thats where humans will thrive

i feel that robots will be great at cleaning toilets. leaving people more time to get a real job changing the world. rather than staying within limits/constraints of small menial repetitive tasks

This is just one of the solutions to the problem.  There are fears that many governments will choose another option to deal with this problem and will not pay their citizens a guaranteed basic income. 

The fact is that a guaranteed basic income does not solve the main problem - people need not only to be fed, but also to give them the meaning of life.  This is an existential problem! 

People who are bored are very dangerous people for the government of the country.  They can start to rebel and organize revolutions. 

Therefore, it is much easier to organize a large-scale war and turn all the citizens of the country into obedient and disciplined soldiers. 

This will give people a new meaning of life - to kill the enemy, not to be killed yourself and to defeat the enemy.

This is the biggest step to destroy the middle class. I mean the middle class weren’t alive much anyway but thanks to AI, job-wise whatever was left available for them will be gone soon.

Fear not however.

The Universal Basic Income will come to the rescue.

By 2030, everybody will be driving golf carts, eat insects, have their citizen scores and universal basic income. You won’t have to go to work. You will be at home watching netflix all day and your masters will send you $$$… as long as you keep eating them bugs.

Just don’t ever never demand to eat a damn steak.

Or we will have a problem.

Off to the gas chamber you freak! I zaid no meat!

Going by your assertion, I will agree with you at some point but not entirely.
There are some levels to which automated machines can work, but you still need humans to man those machines and make other supervisory roles.

As technology advances, human beings strategies on role to play in companies and government agencies, that's why the labour force has all the knowledge any industry is looking for. So I believe, the white-collar workers will still be available to offer their technical know-how when ever the needs arises.

ChatGPT is a powerful assistant tool, but through my usage of it over time (I'm a copywriter, and I use a ChatGPT to help supplant me with ideas and new words to use and abuse throughout my works), I would lie if I say it wasn't useful, but it's not on par with how we work. ChatGPT, despite the fact that it is marketed as a conversational and human-like chat tool, still lacks a couple areas in authenticity which makes it stand out when checking comes around. So I don't think the tool will effectively destabilize or even replace white collar work, what I predict will happen is that the tool will be an aid to many people especially within the aforementioned white-collar-sector where it would be indispensable.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/chatgpt-ai-economy-automation-jobs/672767/


I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.