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I had to ask Grok about the Mike Tyson fight tonight.  I got somewhat of a strange answer, but it is what it is.  Grok said to bet on Mike Tyson to KO Jake Paul and to also bet on Jake Paul to win.  I found that a bit fascinating.  I don't have the ability to bet on Mike Tyson to win by KO as far as I can see (I'm not the most familiar with gambling platforms) so I don't know what the odds would be if you made both of those bets, but I assume maybe it would be profitable either way?  Anyway, I don't really know how you'd say a win or a loss on this one, so I'm going to give Grok the day off in honor of Iron Mike.
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Add the odds for those bets it is telling you to place, it's one thing to track them when it's 1x2 but if you're playing handicap it's a pain in the ass to look them up, especially since they are SP bets in most archives, not the ones you placed maybe one day before the game.

Indiana Pacers was a win at 2.32
Thunders beat Clippers at 1.37
Two more matches lost -2

Those 4 were not any better and you're still down in the long run, funny enough if that handicap option in Dallas-Utah which I see at 1.90 (?) comes out you break even.

But overall I would say that the current result shows the same randomness any bettor would do, in the long run I doubt it would turn any profit over 10% let's say at maximum in a best case scenario but breaking even maybe the actual range where it lands.
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Today Grok says that the bet to make is between the Dallas Mavericks and Utah Jazz. Grok is expecting the Mavericks to not only win but to cover the spread and is recommending to bet on the Dallas Mavericks (-8.5) to cover the spread over the Utah Jazz. That’s a pretty aggressive bet, but I like it.
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Looking like Grok might get itself another W today. I feel a little bit bad that I didn’t do a testing phase before starting this. It took me a minute to get the prompt right to where Grok was using it’s insight instead of just picking a game’s winner based on odds. The 3/7 start before I fine tuned the prompt has hurt the 5/6 performance since (probably 6/7 in another hour).

Edit: I guess I spoke too soon. Grok took another hard loss on a good bet.
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Grok has surprised me yet again today.  When asking it to select a matchup it had unique insight into and then select a bet, it gave me the response that Luka Doncic is going to get more than 7.5 assists and that is what I should bet on.  I didn't even know it would be able to select player prop bets, but here we are.  Luka on the over for assists in the Dallas Mavericks vs Golden State Warriors matchup (aka the return of Klay Thompson).
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Today Grok has not only selected a winner, but given me a score. I won’t bet based on the spread and score because Grok didn’t tell me to, but I am betting the Thunder to beat the Clippers. Final score will supposedly be 116-111 Thunder.
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Nice innovation, but it still depends on what actually happens right?, especially if it's a sports bet. I thought it was more of a game made in a gambling platform. If you a gambler doesn't really know how the teams perform or how strong they are, AI can be a good option. But I doubt it’ll consistently give you an 70-80% win rate, especially since it lacks context on team dynamics, recent player performance, injuries, and other factors that human analysts typically evaluate. AI can look at historical data and make educated guesses, but sports are unpredictable, with real-time factors that can impact outcomes. It’s tough to get a high win rate, and without in-depth, real-time insights, even human experts struggle to keep up.

What do you think would happen if you just relied on your own understanding of the game? Might even get you above 6/10, but still, it’s an impressive innovation. I'm really interested to see how AI can do this much already, especially for minimizing risks in betting. I might try it too with the combination of my own insights and AI, could increase my chance.
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Ohhh… Today Grok picked its first underdog to win. I find that interesting. It said in todays matchup with the Pacers and the Knicks, that the Pacers were going to beat the odds and win the game. I’m very curious how this will turn out, as it is the first bet against the odds.

Indiana Pacers beating the New York Knicks
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So let's see the results:

Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic   +1.37
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks  -1
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons  -1
Boston Celtics beating the Hawks +1.19
Oklahoma City Thunder beating the Magic  +1.13
Los Angeles Lakers beating the Pistons  -1
Boston Celtics beating the Golden State Warriors  -1
Milwaukee Bucks beating the Utah Jazz  +1.22
Cleveland Cavaliers beating the Golden State Warriors +1.64
Chicago Bulls (+3.5) covering against the Atlanta Hawks  +1.88

If my math is right you're down $1.57 for $10 bet despite  a win rate of 60%.
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A 60% winning rate using AI that choose the heavy favorite is something that is not impressive at all considering that the pick is not that complicated.

A gambler can haves same result by just picking 10 matches with same type of pick and enjoy the game at the same time. I doubt using this AI to predict matches is worth it for now because its pick has less accuracy while still choosing normal pick.

I’m sure this will get worse on larger bet sample.

Of course we have to fine tune any AI chatbot before expecting from them to give us a 25 game winning parlay with a really good odd, that is asking to much from them right now in the phase where we are now. It may look like nothing special the fact that this chatbot predicted 6 out of 10 games correctly as a start yet I would celebrate such happening. Now I just checked the website regarding Grok and in the premium X service where you are able to get the services it says that the developers are making sure the Grok second version makes sure gives users a lot more than the actual version is capable so we have to see. Machine learning and data models is what feeds the AI so we have a long way before using these chatbots to make us winners in the gambling sector.
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I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.
Even though I'm not sure the chatbot/Al can work well in predicting the NBA sports bets you are betting on, I probably don't want to forbid you from using the Grok-1 AI, because the Grok-1 AI chatbot is relatively new and was created by the Elon company, but there's no harm in testing the tools you use in gambling, but my little advice is don't place too big a bet on the team you want to bet on.

Like the basketball team I saw between the Brooklyn Nets vs. Detroit Pistons, there said the Nets beat the Pistons. I'm not sure the result could be what the AI ​​Grok-1 said, because last Monday's results 11/4/25 (92-106), as well as the Dallas Mavericks vs. Orlando Magic the same day also produced points (108-85) 108 to the Mavericks and so on several other basketball teams.

For me it's not a problem if you want to test the artificial intelligence of AI Grok-1, but you shouldn't bet large amounts, for $5 I think it's not a problem, unless you predict it yourself, that's another story.
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A 60% winning rate using AI that choose the heavy favorite is something that is not impressive at all considering that the pick is not that complicated.

A gambler can haves same result by just picking 10 matches with same type of pick and enjoy the game at the same time. I doubt using this AI to predict matches is worth it for now because its pick has less accuracy while still choosing normal pick.

I’m sure this will get worse on larger bet sample.
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Of several groups are on the same slip and you lose even one, you can't count the rest as a success. So I wouldn't think this strategy is that sane to be honest. Seems so far it would result in a loss of funds in most cases sooner than later.

AI isn't particularly capable of predicting matches, it doesn't losses any knowledge we're unaware of especially for ongoing events. It's just going to hallucinate its way toward making these predictions. But really at best it's like a random choice.
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I am not convinced of the results. 5 or 6/10 is something a good bettor should get anyway, without using AI. Considering that it usually picks big favorites to win with small odds, you might still be in a loss overall even if it guessed 6/10 games so far. It would be good to know if Grok takes into account and has data on injuries and players who won't play. Perhaps you should ask it to provide you sources that it's basing its predictions on and list everything that has influenced it to make such prediction.
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I think we cannot rely on the AI at all for placing the bets. It’s just choosing a team on the basis of fan favorites and randomly claiming to be the winner. It’s just 50-50 chances, and hence we are able to see 6/10 matches are passed. I think the AI models needed to be further trained with more data and how a player behaves at a particular playing condition. Then we might see some improvement in the result. I would not risk my hard-earned money on a bot. Not in the current situation, at least.
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Yeah it’s just not there yet, but give it another 10 years or so and then revisit this conversation! But honestly the initial bets that OG had weren’t bad for 6/10 60% winning is pretty decent
A 6/10 isn't bad already because if you bet a dollar on each of them, you will end up winning (of course the odds are a factor as well).

TBH, threads like this are the ones that I'm waiting. I mean I've seen threads about trading using AI, but not gambling using AI. I will follow this thread by OG, and TBH, it would be better if he will give some prompts that he is using so that we can also do an experiment on it or make it better as well. Overall, I will only try this if it goes to 100 bets coming from AI already. I'm expecting nothing, but this is very interesting. Smiley

Or TBH, I might try doing it myself as well in the future because I don't have extra funds for now that're for gambling. I know that there are some who are still skeptical about bets being done by AI, but this is just an experiment, and isn't it interesting that 3-5 years from now, we will be using AI to increase our chance in our sports bets? Cheesy Don't expect too much from this experiment knowing that we are still in the early stages of AI, but it's good that we are seeing a development already.
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From the very beginning I believe testing an artificial intelligence to see whether it could be considered to be a reliable mechanism for gamblers to improve their yield on bettinghouses and casinos is a fruitless experiment. Most artificial intelligences do what any person is already able to (if we have enough time to analyze data in bulk).
If there is any advantage when using artificial intelligences for betting an gambling, then it would be minimal and casino would end up adjusting their fees for them to continue to be profitable, in spite of having a significant amount of bettors opting to read what a machine has to say when comes to where one is supposed to put money on and when to avoid to bet, all for the sake of better chances.

Nevertheless, it is interesting but I am already aware of what the result is going to be... it is going to be lackluster.

Yeah it’s just not there yet, but give it another 10 years or so and then revisit this conversation! But honestly the initial bets that OG had weren’t bad for 6/10 60% winning is pretty decent
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From the very beginning I believe testing an artificial intelligence to see whether it could be considered to be a reliable mechanism for gamblers to improve their yield on bettinghouses and casinos is a fruitless experiment. Most artificial intelligences do what any person is already able to (if we have enough time to analyze data in bulk).
If there is any advantage when using artificial intelligences for betting an gambling, then it would be minimal and casino would end up adjusting their fees for them to continue to be profitable, in spite of having a significant amount of bettors opting to read what a machine has to say when comes to where one is supposed to put money on and when to avoid to bet, all for the sake of better chances.

Nevertheless, it is interesting but I am already aware of what the result is going to be... it is going to be lackluster.
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Grok throwing us a curveball today.  For the first time it didn't select a winner, but selected a bet to win.  It first chose the game between the Chicago Bulls and the Atlanta Hawks, then it said that the Bulls were likely to cover the spread and may even win the game outright.  I'm taking this as a sign that it wants me to bet the Bulls to cover the spread against the Hawks.  A first for my Grok predictions, but I like it.

Chicago Bulls to cover the spread against the Atlanta Hawks.

Atlanta Hawks - Chicago Bulls
Handicap (Incl. Overtime)
Chicago Bulls (+3.5)

Odds
1.88
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Perhaps I've found the special sauce by asking it what game it wants to bet on instead of asking it for the winner of a game.  It's also possible that Grok just got lucky 2 days in a row.  Tonight's pick of the Cavs over the Warriors wasn't a cake walk though.  We'll see what Grok has in store for us tomorrow, but I for one am glad that it is back above 50% accuracy.  Considering it hasn't bet against the odds once yet, it should at least be performing this well.

If you want get some realistic result from your experiment please add ODD of the event you're going to gamble.
Since you're already selecting the matches to gamble in this way you can avoid any kind of bias.

I think that you must also add in your counter the odd of each bet. I mean you have a result of 3/6 = 50% of your predictions were profitable.
But what was the odd? It's not the same guess 50% of bets at @1.01 or ... @10.00 . You can calculate the "profit" or ROI and not only how many times your prediction was correct.
Maybe this system as a better rate with certain odd and not other one... I can help you with these calculations if you provide odds in decimal format Roll Eyes
Personally I am still skeptical a system like this can be something useful for an avarage gambler but who knows if Grin
it is not the same result if a bot is able to give prediction of easy odds... its not the same guess a result 1.01 or 10!
Of course if you will count both as "winner" but it's not the same Roll Eyes if you don't consider also the odd of the event... this experiment is just useless it's more "toss a coin" and the fact that you're close to 50% well... Smiley
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Perhaps I've found the special sauce by asking it what game it wants to bet on instead of asking it for the winner of a game.  It's also possible that Grok just got lucky 2 days in a row.  Tonight's pick of the Cavs over the Warriors wasn't a cake walk though.  We'll see what Grok has in store for us tomorrow, but I for one am glad that it is back above 50% accuracy.  Considering it hasn't bet against the odds once yet, it should at least be performing this well.
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Grok came through with a win tonight but I must say that was a pretty obvious pick. We’ll have to see what tomorrow holds. Maybe asking it to choose the game and then pick the winner might be the secret sauce. I doubt it, but this is fun either way. Hopefully Grok can build on this win and get it’s win % up.
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The problem with that for me is that I don’t know anything about soccer, so that makes it less fun for me as I don’t know if Grok is making a good prediction based on some recent news or just picking whatever team has the best odds. If anyone had a specific game they wanted to ask Grok about, I could switch it up for a day.
Good to know that you are aware of that possibility of inaccuracy in Grok picks and the neeed to test it futher before making any decision of how effective Grok performance is and how to via into other aspects of games, selection such as football bettings, and from the first page and the result posted so far, Grok may have strick the first winning by luck.

But the remaining games and other future games selections are going to be the determination of wether or not Grok get something going or not so let hope to see more positive results from Grik future predictions.
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Grok has some strong words to say about the Bucks today and has chosen them as the game to bet on.  The odds heavily favor the Bucks who have been playing terribly, but Grok says tonight is the night that Giannis steps up and brings home a win.  Grok said his prediction took into account, "team form, player matchups, and historical performance against similar competition."  That's good enough for me.

Bucks to beat the Jazz.
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It would be interesting seeing the predictions of the AI on footBall(Personal bias playing)
By personal bias, it is like we already know if who will win? Hmm.. that is interesting. It is to know that they really work, right? I think AI's can't read our minds, so I'm sorry to spoil the fun but they might still not work even on that scenario/situation. I think that is still a good thing, in a way that people will only depend on their selves and not be lazy. The good thing is it also builds them experience. They can only improve continuously this way.

Wishing you best luck, I will love to see the final outcome which it seems the game might go as predicted. Despite the fact I don’t engage in AI service regarding my gambling prediction I might change my mind if this works. Definitely i don’t support AI accuracy 100% aside gambling, gambling can be considered as a different case but when the game is not in your power you have nothing to do rather just wait for the final result so AI can’t help in any situation relating to gambling win.
Same here. I would also like to wish OP a good luck and then I am also excited to look forward on this experiment but who wouldn't be? This is like debunking the myth about AI being used in gambling if they really work or not. I know there are other/a couple of experiments like this I see on the past but I think they are a bit unclear so I/we would want to see another one and hopefully this is it already, right in front of us. I think that using AI's are like using auto bet, in which we may not feel the full excitement of the game anymore.

This is why some of us don't use it and we can stick with it no matter what will be the outcome of the experiment here. Yeah that once the game rolls, we can't do much about it anymore but I think AI's that we are talking about here are used even before the game starts. It is the same as analysing or doing a research about the teams involved, weather, etc... though analysis can also occur even if the game already starts and finished.
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threads like this always interest me, there have been several gamblers in the past who posted threads saying they are using AI to predict who'll win but they seem to not update their threads regarding their bets and progress. it'll be interesting to see how AI will be fair in predicting match results.
I'd also be interested to see threads like this being updated about the progress of the AI that they depend on for their bets. The results will help us to know how reliable and the levels of accuracy that AI has regarding bets. I'm quite skeptical when it comes to using AI for gambling, they don't have emotions and wouldn't make compromises when necessary like humans, they can only function how they're programed to think. If I find out that their predictions are above 60% accurate then I can give it a trial. Although I guess that AI can not be effective in gambling to favor the gamblers because it won't benefit the gambling sites.
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I don't think the idea of ​​placing your entire bet on the decision of an AI is the most sensible choice.

The statistics would certainly be on your side with that.  Grok is 3 out of 7 so far and each game it has chosen to bet on the favorite to win.  That means if you bet the opposite of what Grok said you would not only have won a higher % of your bets, but the wins you had would have been for great odds.  I might have to continue to tweak how I ask it for winners in the hopes that I can find some way to make it a little more accurate, or at least not horribly wrong to the point where you're better off going against it.
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I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

I don't think the idea of ​​placing your entire bet on the decision of an AI is the most sensible choice.

As players, and humans, we have to go through several processes and analyze a huge amount of information to make a good sports bet, not to mention a lot of intuition, something that AI will never have. The main advantage of artificial intelligence is precisely the analysis of a vast range of data in a very short time.

In any case, regardless of the bets you are going to use, you know that they are not an exact science, as they depend on a huge amount of variables and are subject to several unforeseen events that range from the weather on the day of the event to the injury of an important player in the first minutes of the game, and in this regard of adapting quickly to situations and trying to predict events, humans do better.

In other words, never blindly trust an AI when placing sports bets, especially because they are still prone to errors... the ideal is to combine the benefits that AI has to offer with your intuition to obtain the best possible result.
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Artificial Intelligence Gambling Using Grok!

Grok is Artificial Intelligence from the X platform right? I wish I could use the AI but if I don't mistake the AI only for the X Premium User. With the static that you gave it means the Grok winrate is around 60% 3/6. AI basically only use the past data just like we do on trade. and AI don't have emotion they might pure predict by a lot of things but use real data.

But this is a good insight to be honest and winrate 60% is good in my opinion.

Yes, Grok is from the X platform.  It costs a few dollars a month to use.  I think the sample size is too small and this doesn't account for odds, but if anything it should help me learn a little bit about which prompts will get more unique answers.

Today I asked it to select one game it felt good about being able to predict, and then I asked it to predict the winner.  It selected the Boston Celtics to beat the Golden State Warriors.  I put a bet down so we'll see how it goes.
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Artificial Intelligence Gambling Using Grok!

Grok is Artificial Intelligence from the X platform right? I wish I could use the AI but if I don't mistake the AI only for the X Premium User. With the static that you gave it means the Grok winrate is around 60% 3/6. AI basically only use the past data just like we do on trade. and AI don't have emotion they might pure predict by a lot of things but use real data.

But this is a good insight to be honest and winrate 60% is good in my opinion.
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I think that you must also add in your counter the odd of each bet. I mean you have a result of 3/6 = 50% of your predictions were profitable.
But what was the odd? It's not the same guess 50% of bets at @1.01 or ... @10.00 . You can calculate the "profit" or ROI and not only how many times your prediction was correct.
Maybe this system as a better rate with certain odd and not other one... I can help you with these calculations if you provide odds in decimal format Roll Eyes
Personally I am still skeptical a system like this can be something useful for an avarage gambler but who knows if Grin
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I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.
I completely agree with you. However another user with paid subscription to these AI can do so if it will be too overwhelming for him to keep up with the games in both sports.

Another suggestion with be to use other Artificial Intelligence for these predictions and we'd compare which is more accurate.

The problem with that for me is that I don’t know anything about soccer, so that makes it less fun for me as I don’t know if Grok is making a good prediction based on some recent news or just picking whatever team has the best odds. If anyone had a specific game they wanted to ask Grok about, I could switch it up for a day.
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I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.
I completely agree with you. However another user with paid subscription to these AI can do so if it will be too overwhelming for him to keep up with the games in both sports.

Another suggestion with be to use other Artificial Intelligence for these predictions and we'd compare which is more accurate.
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Will you use this Ai predictions to place some bet with real money? Or will you do some more test?
I am just being curious.

I am. At least so far. I guess at this win rate I could be out of money soon.

I tried a different prompt today. Instead of asking it to bet on all the games I let it pick which games it wanted to try and predict the winners of. The teams that were chosen to win today are the: Boston Celtics, Oklahoma Coty Thunder, & Los Angeles Lakers.
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I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

11/03/24 Result: 1/3
Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons


This is a very good and interesting test, and I can see that Grok have been able to win it's first score with its prediction of Dallas Mavericks beating The Orlando magic, interesting and very exciting to see what will be the outcome for the other two remaining games, will Grok be correct also in its prediction, or will it fail? Let's with crossed fingers wait and see.

But then, I am actually interested to know what you will do if after this experiment, it turns out the grok did a predict correctly the listed games?
Will you use this Ai predictions to place some bet with real money? Or will you do some more test?
I am just being curious.
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Not surprising to see the bookies predicted these teams because they're all favorites.

From the three match, the first one that was correctly predicted is a big favorite, meaning the odds is small.

@OP, better to post the odds too for the next prediction, low winning rate isn't important as long as you bet on match where the odds larger than @2.00.

And did you think of trying how AI can play Slots, I think if it works it will be more popular if there is an AI that can play it and get consistent wins, although Casinos will be very careful about it. Grin
Fortunately AI can't do anything in slots because all they can do is clicking spin over and over.
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Apart from the NBA, can you also add some other game types so we can see the game that it can predict more accurately than the others. If this produce a very valid results more often, people will start using it for easy and fast prediction.
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what are the inputs or prompts to have a prediction? it would be great if you can share also what information are provided to this AI...
generally speaking there are many factors involved in a final result and a prediction. I am a bit skeptic that "a simple question" would ever produce any plausible result.
For sure actual rate of win is something disappointed or at least we don't need an AI for achieve these results.
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With the advancement of technology and the improvement in data analysis, of course today AI use has expanded not only in one use but has even spread to gambling, I think the use of AI can provide deeper insights in terms of information and also analysis, but still the final result of a match still cannot be predicted with certainty because many factors cannot be measured by data,  like the mental state of the player, the referee decision or other unexpected events that occur on the field, luck is an absolute factor that cannot be avoided in a gambling unless we gamble with a game that does rely on skill and expertise, although AI can be a very useful tool but it is very important to still combine it with the knowledge, personal analysis and also the instincts that we have.
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I doubt if the results will come as you expected because live game is hard to factor out the outcome since you and I doesn't know exactly what the results could likely be. Now human can be more accurate that AI because it's limited to its programmed knowledge which deals with the computational data at the given time, and to me it works account to instructions. But however I wouldn't want to spoil the fun already and I hope you win as the AI already given you the out but you want to be sure, just know it's 50/50 chances.
Still, gambling is based on luck so even if you follow AI or make your own game analysis, that won’t guarantee winning from your bets. But honestly, threads like this is also quite interesting whether AI will still be reliable enough. However, one thing is certain, even if you win at the moment out from using AI, the next game’s outcome will always be unpredictable. So you have to balance yourself, using AI at some point while you are also creating your own outcome analysis of your bet.
For sure, as a gambler who knows what they are doing and given the chance that AI has done some analysis it is best for the gambler to also have their own time to do their analysis and if they comes out to suits with the ai result then we can entirely depends on the gambling results to come before given final conclusion, if actually the IA is correct or not. With this the use of ai can or may likely increase over the time and even as that we still do not have to completely rely on it because, we as human is not accurate at giving our analysis if we can't always comes up with correct results then we don't have to also rely on the ai because it is computed data it's working on.
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It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.
Hahah that's exactly what I am thinking right now. Grok can not be smarter than human or will not provide a result Oder than the usual internet prediction site. I am just seeing another internet prediction here just as you said the more we make use of it, the more inaccurate it becomes. If the prediction is accurate today doesn't mean all other predictions will be same tomorrow.
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Not the best first day… I may have to try some fine tuning to the prompt…
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I've been one of the people that makes the argument that AI can't currently have a higher win rate than humans whether on sports betting or trading spot or future positions. I'm happy to be proven wrong if this experiment works.
The experiment can not work. But it can be good to use AI to aid your work. They can easily let you know the matches to pick from and make the work and analysis faster. But we are still over them because it is we that we decide which match to pick and which match not to pick. For overall pick no AI can be 70% accurate.

AI at some point while you are also creating your own outcome analysis of your bet.
I completely agree with this.
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I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.
Yeah same as me as well I love football and soccer it is more easier for me to join discussion that relates to it than any other, however it's extremely possibly for the results to be inaccurate as you said because it's not something that build to know the future and gives results accordingly but I am quite sure that most of the information are limited, so the results can be likely inaccurate.
the obvious truth is that, artificial intelligence won't work on sport bets, even if it works on other game's, the highest it can do is to provide the gambler with team analysis, and this analysis can not help the gambler to win the bets since sport most especially football match can and will never follow a pattern that can be understood and analysis by bots or artificial intelligence.
So let  not hoping for too much, since eventually there won't be any much positive positive results coming from this whole artificial intelligence thing as long as gambling is concerned, and even as much difficult as sport bet could be, so we shouldn't build castle in the air with false hopes of seeing this turning out to be anything worthwhile.
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I doubt if the results will come as you expected because live game is hard to factor out the outcome since you and I doesn't know exactly what the results could likely be. Now human can be more accurate that AI because it's limited to its programmed knowledge which deals with the computational data at the given time, and to me it works account to instructions. But however I wouldn't want to spoil the fun already and I hope you win as the AI already given you the out but you want to be sure, just know it's 50/50 chances.
Still, gambling is based on luck so even if you follow AI or make your own game analysis, that won’t guarantee winning from your bets. But honestly, threads like this is also quite interesting whether AI will still be reliable enough. However, one thing is certain, even if you win at the moment out from using AI, the next game’s outcome will always be unpredictable. So you have to balance yourself, using AI at some point while you are also creating your own outcome analysis of your bet.
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I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

11/03/24 Result: ?/3
Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons




Total Results: ?/3

What is the data that Grok includes in the calculations? Does it scrape the internet for all kinds of data or does it only use statistical data like points scored vs. points conceived and some other markers?

What I have been wondering about: bookmakers adjust their odds such that they also match player's decisions in order to make sure that they end up having a safe bet more or less. Correct me if I am wrong on this one. If now anyone would be using AI, couldn't they just counter that by determining the odds such that any perceived AI advantage decreases to a minimum for their customers? I mean if everyone uses AI, isn't it all about having the best AI? If it were to turn out that one AI has generated long-term value, wouldn't bookmakers just have to use that AI themselves if they had access to it?

But I think there are so many totally surprising results, also in football, that I doubt AI would be able to outcompete a well versed person on average. Because in football (Bundesliga Germany), wh would AI be able to tell me that Pauli wins away from home against Hoffenheim? Or why would it tell me that Kiel beats Heidenheim? Why would it tell me that Dortmund beats Leipzig? It could have easily ended in a draw if it wasn't for the nuances that made Dortmund win? What about all those games that are decided by a last second winner? Or the games when some important player gets an injury or a red card early during a game? No AI an anticipate that.

Looking forward to your results though, but hopefully you'll do it for a little longer as three games isn't enough to make anything out of the results.
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I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

11/03/24 Result: ?/3
Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons




Total Results: ?/3
Very interesting, you develop AI for betting, this will be an interesting finding if Ai succeeds as you expect and Grok's predictions have a success rate above 70% of his predictions, it will be very interesting to continue and develop.

And did you think of trying how AI can play Slots, I think if it works it will be more popular if there is an AI that can play it and get consistent wins, although Casinos will be very careful about it. Grin
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I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.
Yeah same as me as well I love football and soccer it is more easier for me to join discussion that relates to it than any other, however it's extremely possibly for the results to be inaccurate as you said because it's not something that build to know the future and gives results accordingly but I am quite sure that most of the information are limited, so the results can be likely inaccurate.
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Wishing you best luck, I will love to see the final outcome which it seems the game might go as predicted. Despite the fact I don’t engage in AI service regarding my gambling prediction I might change my mind if this works. Definitely i don’t support AI accuracy 100% aside gambling, gambling can be considered as a different case but when the game is not in your power you have nothing to do rather just wait for the final result so AI can’t help in any situation relating to gambling win.
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It would be interesting seeing the predictions of the AI on footBall(Personal bias playing)
Posting it's result and comparing to original score Would individuals here gauge it's capabilities
Maybe enable it grow too.
Having access to real time information can serve as an edge in predicting matches
Though Getting 100% is quite impossible, let's see if it can hit 70%
Well Only time will tell.
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Even with a regular and normal human picks, gambling has never been completely accurate resulting from your picks, it only does when you  are lucky and so I can never assume AI to do any better because even with the prompts, AI will only make it's picks based off statistical information it's gotten and that will be more than enough reason it will not be accurate and ofcourse it's programmed by humans so they get the response to this prompts Influenced by statistics made available and prospective assumptions and not assurance so even the AI can only get lucky but not been accurate.
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Betting is usually based on luck and in some cases experience can be used, but nowadays humans are more accurate using AI. But it is possible to win betting with artificial intelligence but seems mysterious to me, since artificial intelligence is limited by fixed knowledge. You notice how he focuses on that team if you bet on a live game, even though he has limitations in the knowledge he sets. 
But yes nowadays using advanced technology it has made the knowledge smarter but it is definitely possible, of course I think it's a chance to win but gambling usually focuses on luck that's why I think 60% to 65% win rate is possible.
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I've been one of the people that makes the argument that AI can't currently have a higher win rate than humans whether on sports betting or trading spot or future positions. I'm happy to be proven wrong if this experiment works. Even more so, I will be looking forward to more experiments like this. OG, if there's a next time, try to get other selections probably under/over totals along with the ML bet selections.
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Hey OG, I think it would be better if you also provide the prompt you use or the screenshot of your conversation between you and Grok. It's okay if you don't want to provide it. I guess it take a lot of work lol
Anyway, those are also my picks for today's NBA games. I'll follow this thread, I will only bet on those same pick. Hopefully this thread will last until NBA Finals.
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Most likely the outcome won't be as expected because artifical Intelligence without human support will likely be useless, although I see we're you mentioned that you helped Grok! to select the games, which is a kind of support to me, but if also you look closely you will see that artifical intelligence use odds as the basic factor for selecting a winner which in some cases could be wrong.

Let see how the whole thing goes, and good luck to Grok, we await the outcome of those games, and this could be an exciting thread for further discussion on the activities of artificial intelligence in some other games.
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I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.
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I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons

Daily Result: ?/3



Total Results: ?/3
I'm anxiously waiting for the outcome of these picks because there have been several discussion about the impact of AI in gambling but no one have actually provided any data to support their argument. Well, I have been sceptical about AI intervention on gambling, maybe this will change my mindset a little  if the result turn out great, even though the data is still very small to use in drawing conclusion. I wish you good luck on this adventure while waiting to see if we have found the secret code to winning gambling consistently.
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threads like this always interest me, there have been several gamblers in the past who posted threads saying they are using AI to predict who'll win but they seem to not update their threads regarding their bets and progress. it'll be interesting to see how AI will be fair in predicting match results.
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I doubt if the results will come as you expected because live game is hard to factor out the outcome since you and I doesn't know exactly what the results could likely be. Now human can be more accurate that AI because it's limited to its programmed knowledge which deals with the computational data at the given time, and to me it works account to instructions. But however I wouldn't want to spoil the fun already and I hope you win as the AI already given you the out but you want to be sure, just know it's 50/50 chances.
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I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

11/03/24 Result: 1/3
Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons


11/04/24 Result: 2/3
Boston Celtics beating the Hawks
Oklahoma City Thunder beating the Magic

Los Angeles Lakers beating the Pistons

11/06/24 Result: 0/1
Boston Celtics beating the Golden State Warriors

11/07/24 Results: 1/1
Milwaukee Bucks beating the Utah Jazz

11/08/24 Results: 1/1
Cleveland Cavaliers beating the Golden State Warriors



Total Results: 5/9
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