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Quote from: BitAddict on July 25, 2013, 06:24:40 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on July 24, 2013, 06:41:41 PM

Quote from: velacreations on July 24, 2013, 05:09:33 PM

Quote from: Pale Phoenix on July 24, 2013, 05:01:09 PM

Jumping ship from BTCTC to Havelock is ridiculous as they are in no better position with respect to Canadian exempt securities regulations (National Instrument 45-106).

Everyone panicking is throwing money away, which I'm sure is pleasing to the speculators among us. Stay calm, there really is no urgent need to do anything.

don't tell people that, you'll make the price rise before my confirmations...

3 confirmations never went so slow... I missed the train Sad

Finally I got some cheap shares Grin

Train will remain alive and well until the next official hardware announcement... then we'll all be bitching about not buyiing enough shares under BTC6.

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Quote from: BitAddict on July 24, 2013, 06:41:41 PM

Quote from: velacreations on July 24, 2013, 05:09:33 PM

Quote from: Pale Phoenix on July 24, 2013, 05:01:09 PM

Jumping ship from BTCTC to Havelock is ridiculous as they are in no better position with respect to Canadian exempt securities regulations (National Instrument 45-106).

Everyone panicking is throwing money away, which I'm sure is pleasing to the speculators among us. Stay calm, there really is no urgent need to do anything.

don't tell people that, you'll make the price rise before my confirmations...

3 confirmations never went so slow... I missed the train Sad

Finally I got some cheap shares Grin

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Quote from: burnside on July 25, 2013, 12:43:37 AM

Quote from: canth on July 24, 2013, 09:03:37 PM

For those running to the safety of AM direct shares - I see this as largely unnecessary. In the worst case scenario, in the event that BTCTC is met with a cease and desist or other enforcement action, Friedcat has an updated listing of all of our share allocations, sent twice a day. https://btct.co/faq

I'm not saying there wouldn't be negative ramifications if BTCTC were targeted - surely liquidity and share price would be affected. However, those of us with AM PT shares are not SOL in that case.

*Full disclosure - I own both direct and PT shares and I am not planning on changing my allocations anytime in the near future.

This is a good point.

Yes, Friedcat is emailed a full shareholder list (includes email and btc address) several times a day. If the servers ever got pulled, he has everything he needs to pull the shares back in-house to direct shares.

I am not certain, but I suspect this is unique to BTCTC. BitFunder has a good approach with publishing the addresses publicly if you turn it on, (if you haven't, do it now.) but does not include emails in that so Friedcat would not have a way to contact users directly. Havelock and 796 I have no idea what is setup. (Anyone know?)

I have no idea posts in the havelock thread well we can download our whole trade history but better to inquire what happens exactly

Download as CSV/Excel
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/transactions.php?csv

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Quote from: burnside on July 25, 2013, 12:43:37 AM

Quote from: canth on July 24, 2013, 09:03:37 PM

For those running to the safety of AM direct shares - I see this as largely unnecessary. In the worst case scenario, in the event that BTCTC is met with a cease and desist or other enforcement action, Friedcat has an updated listing of all of our share allocations, sent twice a day. https://btct.co/faq

I'm not saying there wouldn't be negative ramifications if BTCTC were targeted - surely liquidity and share price would be affected. However, those of us with AM PT shares are not SOL in that case.

*Full disclosure - I own both direct and PT shares and I am not planning on changing my allocations anytime in the near future.

This is a good point.

Yes, Friedcat is emailed a full shareholder list (includes email and btc address) several times a day. If the servers ever got pulled, he has everything he needs to pull the shares back in-house to direct shares.

I am not certain, but I suspect this is unique to BTCTC. BitFunder has a good approach with publishing the addresses publicly if you turn it on, (if you haven't, do it now.) but does not include emails in that so Friedcat would not have a way to contact users directly. Havelock and 796 I have no idea what is setup. (Anyone know?)

Every time you post now, burnside, there is a sell-off at BTC-TC.

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Quote from: canth on July 24, 2013, 09:03:37 PM

For those running to the safety of AM direct shares - I see this as largely unnecessary. In the worst case scenario, in the event that BTCTC is met with a cease and desist or other enforcement action, Friedcat has an updated listing of all of our share allocations, sent twice a day. https://btct.co/faq

I'm not saying there wouldn't be negative ramifications if BTCTC were targeted - surely liquidity and share price would be affected. However, those of us with AM PT shares are not SOL in that case.

*Full disclosure - I own both direct and PT shares and I am not planning on changing my allocations anytime in the near future.

This is a good point.

Yes, Friedcat is emailed a full shareholder list (includes email and btc address) several times a day. If the servers ever got pulled, he has everything he needs to pull the shares back in-house to direct shares.

I am not certain, but I suspect this is unique to BTCTC. BitFunder has a good approach with publishing the addresses publicly if you turn it on, (if you haven't, do it now.) but does not include emails in that so Friedcat would not have a way to contact users directly. Havelock and 796 I have no idea what is setup. (Anyone know?)

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Quote from: cp1 on July 24, 2013, 11:26:24 PM

The price has pretty well recovered already.

Its stable on btct and bitfunder still a bit of lag on havelock though

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Stop using branwallets

The price has pretty well recovered already.

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Quote from: Pale Phoenix on July 24, 2013, 10:20:22 PM

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 09:57:54 PM

You're a wanker.

What, no eruption? You disappoint.

I laugh when i hear words like "wanker" and "cheers".
I can't erupt over entertainment value from strange countries..

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on July 24, 2013, 10:15:00 PM

Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 09:57:54 PM

You're a wanker.

What, no eruption? You disappoint.

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 09:57:54 PM

You're a wanker.

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 08:33:08 PM

I'd guess that the recent dump of passthrough shares on btct was not about rumours regarding the legality of virtual stock exchanges.
I suppose that someone did their sums and came to the conclusion that it might be a good idea to invext in some actual asicminer hardware over the coming weeks.

Well it really was panic selling of many btct shares, and it really did happen just as soon as the discussion started about btct closing its doors to US citizens, especially when Burnside confirmed he was considering it.

So I don't think it was just people just suddenly deciding the time was right to put their bitcoins elsewhere. Timing was way too much of a coincidence.

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You're a wanker.

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 09:46:05 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on July 24, 2013, 09:41:41 PM

Good for you, but what does that tell us about high density chips? Nothing.

True, however higher density chips have relatively similar power useage as I see. I don't see any big advantage there yet.

That is totally wrong, and I shouldn't even have to dig up references to prove it. Everyone here knows that power efficiency rises with smaller chips. Learn your facts..

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on July 24, 2013, 09:41:41 PM

Good for you, but what does that tell us about high density chips? Nothing.

True, however higher density chips have relatively similar power useage as I see. I don't see any big advantage there yet.

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 09:38:38 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor link=topic=99497.msg2798772#msg2798772 date=1374719754
If it's untested then why would you even consider the possibility that it [b

wouldn't[/b] last over time. Roll Eyes

I've got a box with a lot of dead celerons that also has working 386sx's in it
no fan

Good for you, but what does that tell us about high density chips? Nothing.

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor link=topic=99497.msg2798772#msg2798772 date=1374719754
If it's untested then why would you even consider the possibility that it [b

wouldn't[/b] last over time. Roll Eyes

I've got a box with a lot of dead celerons that also has working 386sx's in it
no fan

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 09:33:44 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on July 24, 2013, 09:27:04 PM

less density equates to less efficiency and more cost per gh/s
everyone knows that

Efficiency in this case is cost, power usage and hashes... if you want to talk about how long a chip will last over time, this is untested.

If it's untested then why would you even consider the possibility that it wouldn't last over time. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on July 24, 2013, 09:27:04 PM

less density equates to less efficiency and more cost per gh/s
everyone knows that

Efficiency in this case is cost, power usage and hashes... if you want to talk about how long a chip will last over time, this is untested.

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 08:33:08 PM

I'd guess that the recent dump of passthrough shares on btct was not about rumours regarding the legality of virtual stock exchanges.
I suppose that someone did their sums and came to the conclusion that it might be a good idea to invext in some actual asicminer hardware over the coming weeks.

+1 Not just about rumors

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Quote from: Vexual on July 24, 2013, 09:26:03 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on July 24, 2013, 09:16:48 PM

just imagine an old man in a wheelchair about to croak any day.. that's 108nm right now

While I'm making suppositions, I will also say that your lack of knowlegdge about IC design is equaled by your lack of knowledge of physics in general.

less density equates to less efficiency and more cost per gh/s
everyone knows that

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