this troll does not hold asic miner shares...
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Topic: ASICminer - is wrong ! centralisation of BitCoin (Read 2157 times)
Why do you think this is killing, please explain
They have no competition and sell their h/w with 8+ mths payback time.
Their competitors cannot ship in quantity to compete.
If they did, the prices of ASICMiner products would have to come down to 1-3 month range.
Right now they are the only game in town, so they make huge profit selling those blades/sticks.
Do you think people will stop buying their next blade? It will sell like there is no tomorrow.
Unless BFL starts shipping minirigs in quantity, or avalon ships their batch #2/#3, chips and announce a 2nd gen chip.
eh, it seems a bit foolish to me
if you believe bitcoins will go up in value enough to warrant purchasing one of those, then you should just buy the bitcoins off the market
i mentioned something about how specialized equipment leads to more centralization, not less, and then someone responded about how all this extra hashing power is good for the network (like 8 months ago?)
i guess to chase off the cpu bot miners, though im not sure the positives outweigh the negatives
I can't access Reddit from work, but the Business Insider article certainly didn't say anything about it not surviving the year...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-2niFDgtI#t=2436s
Wow. It's hard to tell it's the same guy. The BI article makes it sound like he's just a semi-interested observer. He certainly has a Chicken Little attitude, doesn't he...
Why do you think this is killing, please explain
They have no competition and sell their h/w with 8+ mths payback time.
Their competitors cannot ship in quantity to compete.
If they did, the prices of ASICMiner products would have to come down to 1-3 month range.
Right now they are the only game in town, so they make huge profit selling those blades/sticks.
Do you think people will stop buying their next blade? It will sell like there is no tomorrow.
Unless BFL starts shipping minirigs in quantity, or avalon ships their batch #2/#3, chips and announce a 2nd gen chip.
corporate mining is unavoidable .
At the Bitcoin 2013 conference, security researcher Dan Kaminsky predicted that the current algorithm will not survive the year.
Time for a different prediction: He's been wrong about bitcoin before, and he'll be wrong again.I agree. Changing the algorithm just means new ASICs will be made for the new algorithm. It doesn't really change anything.
He does have a point about "one dude" though.
Since when are profit and decentralization mutually exclusive? The two have nothing to do with each other, and the profit is also redistributed to shareholders. You don't make any sense.
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ASICminer is not just mining, they are selling asics to decentralise mining too !
You are joking, right?They are making a killing selling blades and erupters.
They are NOT doing it to decentralize anything.
Since when are profit and decentralization mutually exclusive? The two have nothing to do with each other, and the profit is also redistributed to shareholders. You don't make any sense.
At the Bitcoin 2013 conference, security researcher Dan Kaminsky predicted that the current algorithm will not survive the year.
Time for a different prediction: He's been wrong about bitcoin before, and he'll be wrong again. I can't access Reddit from work, but the Business Insider article certainly didn't say anything about it not surviving the year...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-2niFDgtI#t=2436s
At the Bitcoin 2013 conference, security researcher Dan Kaminsky predicted that the current algorithm will not survive the year.
http://www.businessinsider.com/dan-kaminsky-highlights-flaws-bitcoin-2013-4http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7lzi/i_tried_to_hack_bitcoin_and_failed_dan_kaminsky/
I can't access Reddit from work, but the Business Insider article certainly didn't say anything about it not surviving the year...
I kind of agree. While ASICminer is held publicly the owners of the corporation are doubtlessly raking in piles of money right now.
Its sad that Bitcoin's got a corporation that owns 1/4 of the network's hashrate. You can either buy ASICminer and let them make most of the real profits from your mining investment or mine yourself and make drastically less money because they are ramping the difficulty up so much.
Its sad that Bitcoin's got a corporation that owns 1/4 of the network's hashrate. You can either buy ASICminer and let them make most of the real profits from your mining investment or mine yourself and make drastically less money because they are ramping the difficulty up so much.
They are just one of the first companies to deploy their ASICs. Of course they will reap the biggest benefits in the short-medium term for this reason. I believe we will see a more level playing field when other ASICs start emerging on the marketplace.
I kind of agree. While ASICminer is held publicly the owners of the corporation are doubtlessly raking in piles of money right now.
Its sad that Bitcoin's got a corporation that owns 1/4 of the network's hashrate. You can either buy ASICminer and let them make most of the real profits from your mining investment or mine yourself and make drastically less money because they are ramping the difficulty up so much.
Its sad that Bitcoin's got a corporation that owns 1/4 of the network's hashrate. You can either buy ASICminer and let them make most of the real profits from your mining investment or mine yourself and make drastically less money because they are ramping the difficulty up so much.
At the Bitcoin 2013 conference, security researcher Dan Kaminsky predicted that the current algorithm will not survive the year.
http://www.businessinsider.com/dan-kaminsky-highlights-flaws-bitcoin-2013-4http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7lzi/i_tried_to_hack_bitcoin_and_failed_dan_kaminsky/
ASICminer is not just mining, they are selling asics to decentralise mining too !
Yeah....2 BTC for 333MH/s. You made a funny right?
At the Bitcoin 2013 conference, security researcher Dan Kaminsky predicted that the current algorithm will not survive the year.
Sounds to me like someone is mad that they don't have the resources to do what others do. No one ever declared that Bitcoin should be a communist endeaver. If the bread crumbs you get aren't enough then quit mining. It takes money to make money and ASICminer found away. Why shouldn't they reap the rewards. 
Why do you think this is killing, please explain
ASICminer is not just mining, they are selling asics to decentralise mining too !
You are joking, right?They are making a killing selling blades and erupters.
They are NOT doing it to decentralize anything.
Bitcoin centralization is bad, and that's what companies such as ASICminer do !
big power / hashrarte in one hand !
when will the change in BitCoin algorithm eliminates ASICs ?
big power / hashrarte in one hand !
when will the change in BitCoin algorithm eliminates ASICs ?
non-specialized equipment -> specialized equipment = more centralization
not that it really matters in this case
Bitcoin centralization is bad, and that's what companies such as ASICminer do !
big power / hashrarte in one hand !
when will the change in BitCoin algorithm eliminates ASICs ?
big power / hashrarte in one hand !
when will the change in BitCoin algorithm eliminates ASICs ?
bored ?
ASICminer is not just mining, they are selling asics to decentralise mining too !
Bitcoin centralization is bad, and that's what companies such as ASICminer do !
big power / hashrarte in one hand !
when will the change in BitCoin algorithm eliminates ASICs ?
big power / hashrarte in one hand !
when will the change in BitCoin algorithm eliminates ASICs ?
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