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Hi Everyone-

I started a thread where we can consolidate information from the various ASICMiner Tube -related threads. the thread is here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-tube-owners-thread-768500

I added what info I could in the time I had to spare. All contributions are welcome. I will monitor that thread and add info to the OP as it is posted.
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cryptoshark
My Controller is bad (maybe only this one).

When it is connected to mining devices and they were hashing you will be unable to change settings.
To perform save you have to power down controller, take off hashing cable, turn on and then save settings.
After that turn off controller and connect hashing cable overthise not all boards will be visible.

I do not reccomend hashing at ghash.io. They had 1 hour downtime yesterday and today 2 hours (uk1.ghash.io)

Unfortunatelly you cant set backup pool at controller so you will loose money as i did. (7.5TH x 3 hours).
Miners while not hashing are eating electricity (around 235W per tube) so you loose even more due to web interface.

I have changed pool to slush (mining.bitcoin.cz) but it was not easy. Smiley


legendary
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The tube probably works...just the ethernet controller does not. I hope that it has 4 good boards, but I have no way to test it with out the controller.
legendary
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I will ship it out for you tomorrow if you want it!


okay I will pm.


 and pm has been sent

Alright done deal this is sold now...hope she has all good blades for you.

well we will deal with blade quality once I get them (fingers crossed).  
I most likely will test them one by one. I am hoping to build a 1.6th unit. .79 is hard to turn down.

Why are you paying 0.79 BTC for a malfunctioning Tube when you can get a new one for the same price? Canary will likely lower his prices any time now. Just keep an eye on the group buy thread.
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i got
2.5 unit
4.15 unit
0.84 unit

they are hashing stable.

noticed strange thing, sometimes randomly one chip or more goes off.
it clears after restart

maybe periodic software controller reset  is solution for this?

Just hope it dosnt degrade like my cube did, same company, all chips would x, restart then ok for 3 to 10 days.
after 90 days it kept doing it more often then finally quit. Never overlocked, (wouldn't over clock anyway, straight to x).
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cryptoshark
i got
2.5 unit
4.15 unit
0.84 unit

they are hashing stable.

noticed strange thing, sometimes randomly one chip or more goes off.
it clears after restart

maybe periodic software controller reset  is solution for this?


legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I will ship it out for you tomorrow if you want it!


okay I will pm.


 and pm has been sent

Alright done deal this is sold now...hope she has all good blades for you.

well we will deal with blade quality once I get them (fingers crossed).  
I most likely will test them one by one. I am hoping to build a 1.6th unit. .79 is hard to turn down.
legendary
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I will ship it out for you tomorrow if you want it!


okay I will pm.


 and pm has been sent

Alright done deal this is sold now...hope she has all good blades for you.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I will ship it out for you tomorrow if you want it!


okay I will pm.


 and pm has been sent
legendary
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I will ship it out for you tomorrow if you want it!
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Looks like the S3 is a better deal as its price is dropping.

The Tubes have also just been discounted for round 2 sales. The price is now 7.9 BTC for a set of 10 Tubes (minimum direct order quantity), so that's 0.79 BTC per Tube. That works out to 380.72 USD at 482 USD/BTC (bitstamp rate at time of writing).

No way I would buy another one of these...my first one doesn't even work yet.  If anyone wants to buy my tube fully assembled for .79 let me know... mine shipped with a dead ethernet controller.

.79 btc is very tempting pm sent
legendary
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Looks like the S3 is a better deal as its price is dropping.

The Tubes have also just been discounted for round 2 sales. The price is now 7.9 BTC for a set of 10 Tubes (minimum direct order quantity), so that's 0.79 BTC per Tube. That works out to 380.72 USD at 482 USD/BTC (bitstamp rate at time of writing).

No way I would buy another one of these...my first one doesn't even work yet.  If anyone wants to buy my tube fully assembled for .79 let me know... mine shipped with a dead ethernet controller.
legendary
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Looks like the S3 is a better deal as its price is dropping.

The Tubes have also just been discounted for round 2 sales. The price is now 7.9 BTC for a set of 10 Tubes (minimum direct order quantity), so that's 0.79 BTC per Tube. That works out to 380.72 USD at 482 USD/BTC (bitstamp rate at time of writing).
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If anyone wants a video tutorial of almost all the steps to build an ASICMiner Tube I recorded my process. Hope it helps Cheesy It talks about all the little quirks and stuff and things to watch out for so you don't have to learn the hard way.

http://youtu.be/zEL5EKWwBx0
legendary
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Hope you don't have a feline  Grin

Im sure it would love to play with all them wires !

I didn't check availability on S3's, saw they were being sold in forums for $349 (probably late delivery as you said) or .6? used.

Hope those things hold up better than my cube did.

Block Erupter cube?  I still have three cubes throwing 100Ghs into the network making $1 a day....lol
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cryptoshark
More accurate would be to point every box as separate worker.
Please be aware that ghash is very unstable and you can have more profit using other pool. just push miners to let say btcguild or eligius and see yourself.
Ghash is so unstable, spikes , hash is lover than reported in GUI.

Just thought.

I mine at polmine Smiley, love PPS 1% and merged mining and many fancy stuff like below


but didnt have time to setup proxy for those tubes so i mine at ghash with them
legendary
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More accurate would be to point every box as separate worker.
Please be aware that ghash is very unstable and you can have more profit using other pool. just push miners to let say btcguild or eligius and see yourself.
Ghash is so unstable, spikes , hash is lover than reported in GUI.

Just thought.
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cryptoshark
thank you for info.

new pictures Smiley






and new location Smiley


sr. member
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Looks like they are all daisy chained to the controller into one port?

Can you break the chain into 2 or three chains? That would protect from a bad board knocking
you totally out.

Just a thought.

as an old network dude, I hate bus topology (especially daisy chain). Star is your friend.

it is not like this.
i had one tube offline at chain (unplugged due to power loss) and rest is working
one cutoff dont slice chain, just signals pass the dead tube Smiley

dont forget to reset/power on/off controller after adding/powering on tubes

One of the other people in the GB posted that his would not start until bad board's were removed
thus my assumption.
It will likely depend on how it fails. Some failures will keep the chain up, but some really wonky boards can probably bring everything down. My guess is that (total failure of the chain) would more likely be caused by a malfunctioning board that never works (thus, is identified when it is first tried), and not a marginal board that just flakes out after use.
sr. member
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Looks like they are all daisy chained to the controller into one port?

Can you break the chain into 2 or three chains? That would protect from a bad board knocking
you totally out.

Just a thought.

as an old network dude, I hate bus topology (especially daisy chain). Star is your friend.

it is not like this.
i had one tube offline at chain (unplugged due to power loss) and rest is working
one cutoff dont slice chain, just signals pass the dead tube Smiley

dont forget to reset/power on/off controller after adding/powering on tubes

One of the other people in the GB posted that his would not start until bad board's were removed
thus my assumption.
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cryptoshark
Looks like they are all daisy chained to the controller into one port?

Can you break the chain into 2 or three chains? That would protect from a bad board knocking
you totally out.

Just a thought.

as an old network dude, I hate bus topology (especially daisy chain). Star is your friend.

it is not like this.
i had one tube offline at chain (unplugged due to power loss) and rest is working
one cutoff dont slice chain, just signals pass the dead tube Smiley

dont forget to reset/power on/off controller after adding/powering on tubes
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cryptoshark
Hope you don't have a feline  Grin

Im sure it would love to play with all them wires !

I didn't check availability on S3's, saw they were being sold in forums for $349 (probably late delivery as you said) or .6? used.

Hope those things hold up better than my cube did.

october delivery, no thanks Smiley
at october my miners would be replaced with newer ones
like i usually do Smiley
but i allways put aside one miner as collectible, some of miners are at shelf now Smiley
sr. member
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Looks like they are all daisy chained to the controller into one port?

Can you break the chain into 2 or three chains? That would protect from a bad board knocking
you totally out.

Just a thought.

as an old network dude, I hate bus topology (especially daisy chain). Star is your friend.
sr. member
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Hope you don't have a feline  Grin

Im sure it would love to play with all them wires !

I didn't check availability on S3's, saw they were being sold in forums for $349 (probably late delivery as you said) or .6? used.

Hope those things hold up better than my cube did.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Looks like the S3 is a better deal as its price is dropping. Buy 2. Lower power consumption, higher hash (2 units). Dosnt need any
controller that further needs a proxy to fix it's flawed communications.

Plus I don't like that the boards are serial daisy chained. bad board takes out others behind it.

Not to mention crappy controller or issue of 'pool" fixing solution go'es south and you take out up to 4 units.

each S3 is stand alone direct to a pool.

AM should stick to chips and let others do the miner engineering. They proved that with the lemon cube.


But... you have to wait till end of sept for ants Smiley
and they are more expensive

here is photo of part of my farm Smiley



yeah this gets about a .3btc head start in coin over 1 pair of s-3's and it is a little cheaper 1.04 btc and say  .06 to ship a total of 1.10 btc vs 1.16 btc  that means this has a .36 btc edge over the s-3.  If you plan to mine this for 3 or 4 weeks and then sell it on ebay it is absolutely better then an s-3.  if you just want to mine for 6 months the s-3 may be better.
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cryptoshark
Looks like the S3 is a better deal as its price is dropping. Buy 2. Lower power consumption, higher hash (2 units). Dosnt need any
controller that further needs a proxy to fix it's flawed communications.

Plus I don't like that the boards are serial daisy chained. bad board takes out others behind it.

Not to mention crappy controller or issue of 'pool" fixing solution go'es south and you take out up to 4 units.

each S3 is stand alone direct to a pool.

AM should stick to chips and let others do the miner engineering. They proved that with the lemon cube.


But... you have to wait till end of sept for ants Smiley
and they are more expensive

here is photo of part of my farm Smiley

sr. member
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Looks like the S3 is a better deal as its price is dropping. Buy 2. Lower power consumption, higher hash (2 units). Dosnt need any
controller that further needs a proxy to fix it's flawed communications.

Plus I don't like that the boards are serial daisy chained. bad board takes out others behind it.

Not to mention crappy controller or issue of 'pool" fixing solution go'es south and you take out up to 4 units.

each S3 is stand alone direct to a pool.

AM should stick to chips and let others do the miner engineering. They proved that with the lemon cube.

sr. member
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So to not use ghash.io you have to buy another piece of hardware?

if you don't already have something else to run it on.

You would think they would just fix their crappy firmware!!
legendary
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So to not use ghash.io you have to buy another piece of hardware?
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I haven't jumped on this yet because I can't see myself buying a miner that will only work on ghash...I think it's rather ironic that for all the 'stop using ghash' threads on here this is the only pool this beast will work with.
Didn't they test it with any other pools before unleashing it?
weird...JMO

ig

Friedcat posted a guide for using bfgminer.  Mine is working on Eligius right now.

Ref:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8549984
legendary
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I haven't jumped on this yet because I can't see myself buying a miner that will only work on ghash...I think it's rather ironic that for all the 'stop using ghash' threads on here this is the only pool this beast will work with.
Didn't they test it with any other pools before unleashing it?
weird...JMO

ig
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cryptoshark
Got my units hashing.
Shipment with controllers arrived today.
I will post more tommorow.
legendary
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No on P2Pool.  Not sure if anyone's had success with any other pool but Ghash?

You can read up Dogie's review detailing the fan noise.  Apparently loud-ish, but higher pitched or something along those lines.
sr. member
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How loud are these compared to, say, an Antminer S1?

Do you know if they work with p2pool?

Thanks.
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Anger is a gift.
I assume you bought in Canary's group buy?  Wonder if I order one right now if he can have it here by Wednesday also?

Yeah I did. If you get him the shipping labels ASAP he might ship them out tomorrow and you could overnight them.
legendary
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I assume you bought in Canary's group buy?  Wonder if I order one right now if he can have it here by Wednesday also?
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Anger is a gift.
So has anyone had these setup and hashing yet? I was thinking of buying one just because they looked kind of cool and that you build them.  I have not seen anyone say that they work...just that they take 15 minutes to build Huh

I should know Wednesday how well they work. Not too crazy about the controller.
legendary
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So has anyone had these setup and hashing yet? I was thinking of buying one just because they looked kind of cool and that you build them.  I have not seen anyone say that they work...just that they take 15 minutes to build Huh
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newbie
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Very nice where can we order and can we tell as a price
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°^°
nice LIDL bag Cheesy
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Don't know how many you have left but could you time yourself as you put one together as quickly as possible and report how long it takes here? Thanks

it takes about 15 minutes to assemble this.
it looks difficult but it is easy after first one.

unfortunatelly i cant report any unit working yet.
i have issues not related to miner itself.

Any solution to this yet? 0/10 is pretty poor yeild. Either you are doing something completely wrong or AM is sending incorrect parts.

Which part of "i have issues not related to miner itself." did you not capture?  Shocked
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cryptoshark
Solution will be soon.
I am not noob, got hundreds of diffrent miners connected, used and sold.
I am sure that units will be hashing soon.

Patience, please.

thanks.
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Don't know how many you have left but could you time yourself as you put one together as quickly as possible and report how long it takes here? Thanks

it takes about 15 minutes to assemble this.
it looks difficult but it is easy after first one.

unfortunatelly i cant report any unit working yet.
i have issues not related to miner itself.

Any solution to this yet? 0/10 is pretty poor yeild. Either you are doing something completely wrong or AM is sending incorrect parts.
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cryptoshark
Don't know how many you have left but could you time yourself as you put one together as quickly as possible and report how long it takes here? Thanks

it takes about 15 minutes to assemble this.
it looks difficult but it is easy after first one.

unfortunatelly i cant report any unit working yet.
i have issues not related to miner itself.
sr. member
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Iit took 17 minutes to put one together with everything laid out, once I know how to do it. Since then I have spent an additional hour & 30 minutes each trying to get them to work correctly.  The time spent getting them to run is on going as I don't have 1 running yet.

Told a few different things to check & go over by fc, which I will be doing once I get into office today. Will update if I can get them running
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Don't know how many you have left but could you time yourself as you put one together as quickly as possible and report how long it takes here? Thanks
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cryptoshark
thank you for this link
i wil post when i will have my units hashing
now i have to hold on with this
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http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-viewnews-itemid-51
AM Tube setup instructions posted today. Not in english, but lots of photos.
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cryptoshark
too late for me Smiley
will try tommorow morning.
it turned to be one faulty board (used as second in chain) confusing me.

or maybe something else?

assembly and running is best fun for miners Smiley

thats why i spent my fiat into thoose miners, i am glad exchange rate was low :>

bought gardens using btc few weeks ago at rate 624, heh

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Trust me!
This is very interesting! Good to see that the tubes get shipped and already are in the hands of some miners. I hope you don't connect the wrong wires and fry the cat miner!
Oh friedcat, could you give us a heads up on the self-mining please?
donator
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between a rock and a block!
yes i have read it

but there is no answer to my questions

how to connect boards by white cable ?
wchich number of miner is one with controller ?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8475122

thanks
The last one's cable goes into controller.
Or another way, I think, the controller can accept 3 connections.  But I think each connection is independent.  So dip switches are for 1 chain

can you tell me how to connect white cables to boards ?
1-4 ab
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8475122

thanks


try this:
4a to 3b. 3a to 2b. 2a to 1b. 1a to controller.
make sure what you believe is 4, has dip switches set for 4.  3 has switches for 3 etc...
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cryptoshark
yes i have read it

but there is no answer to my questions

how to connect boards by white cable ?
wchich number of miner is one with controller ?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8475122

thanks
The last one's cable goes into controller.
Or another way, I think, the controller can accept 3 connections.  But I think each connection is independent.  So dip switches are for 1 chain

can you tell me how to connect white cables to boards ?
1-4 ab
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8475122

thanks

donator
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between a rock and a block!
yes i have read it

but there is no answer to my questions

how to connect boards by white cable ?
wchich number of miner is one with controller ?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8475122

thanks
The last one's cable goes into controller.
Or another way, I think, the controller can accept 3 connections.  But I think each connection is independent.  So dip switches are for 1 chain
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cryptoshark
yes i have read it

but there is no answer to my questions

how to connect boards by white cable ?
wchich number of miner is one with controller ?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8475122

thanks
donator
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between a rock and a block!
Did you check out Dogie's guide for the HashRatio Tsunami that is also based on AM's open source x24 reference design?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashratio-tsunami-setup-hd-723445
^^ this and you also need to flash firmware to boards once everything is wired correctly
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Did you check out Dogie's guide for the HashRatio Tsunami that is also based on AM's open source x24 reference design?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashratio-tsunami-setup-hd-723445
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cryptoshark
got 6 miners assembled but i cant get them working

how they should be wired? i mean white transfer cable, and long one to controller

board 1

1a 1b

board 2

2a 2b

board 3

3a 3b

board 4

4a 4b

where a is socket nearest to fan

1a->2b 2a->3b 3a->4b 4a->controller?

i am testing it and it takes long time...
and how switches should be set if there is only 4 boards

and 8

nuber 1 is this one with controller ?

thanks

ps. sorry but this miner is not so easy to setup without detailed guide Smiley
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what's the dip switch used for?

For running multiple miners off one ethernet controller. See section 5 of Dogie's guide:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashratio-tsunami-setup-hd-723445
Self addressing would be more "pro" Wink

Over engineering if you ask me for something you set up once and never touch again till the electricity bill is too high.
legendary
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what's the dip switch used for?

For running multiple miners off one ethernet controller. See section 5 of Dogie's guide:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashratio-tsunami-setup-hd-723445
Self addressing would be more "pro" Wink
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what's the dip switch used for?

For running multiple miners off one ethernet controller. See section 5 of Dogie's guide:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashratio-tsunami-setup-hd-723445
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what's the dip switch used for?
legendary
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Once it will work, it would be very much appreciated if you could mesure the sound level of it.

Thx !
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cryptoshark
thanks for this.
i will change it.

unit is not hashing unfortunatelly yet.
maybe i messed up with connection cables.

i will try to fix it in 2 hours from now.

donator
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Do not forget to insert the ivory color washer (4 per device) between
the handle and the fan when screwing the fan onto the cooling kit.
It serves the protection of the PCB when screwing.
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cryptoshark
No problem it is pleasure to create pictures Smiley

thermal paste is replaced with thermal pads easy to apply.

some pictures after dinner break





legendary
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Handles are backwards  Grin  Looks very nice, I'm interested to see how these do.  I've got mine on order with Canary right now.

Does the thermal paste come in a tube on the side?
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Would appreciate additional pictures as you assemble them, thanks for doing this.
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cryptoshark
Tube is almost ready Smiley

without pcb



edit,
i messed up Smiley
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cryptoshark
i have paid at friday night, got package at tuesday at my airport (EU)
customs like usually were annoying but it was cleared due to great help of friedcat team!

Just got them from airport Smiley
Have electronic screwdriver so it will be fast.

I think/hope about 20min per miner Smiley
legendary
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u think number 13 will be lucky for you? 

amounts of parts is massive. from delivery to mining how long? 2 days? plus if you have big fingers you screwed Smiley

good luck buddy.
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cryptoshark
Hi

Just got my packages from friedcat.
It consist of 13 boxes.
Review and detailed guide on the way.

assembly photo


got from
https://github.com/blockerupter/AM_Tube/blob/master/assembly.png


I will try to make working miner using this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3U4ZHTmeKk
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0My2bNWlAU

Have look at photos before assembly.








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