Topic: Asics + 4G internet / Is this working? (Read 533 times)

This is a cool Idea to get started..!!

% of rejected share ?

TLDR; It works great, do it!

I have a 4G to wifi router set up in a remote cabin to operate smart plugs. I can turn on the electric heat on the drive up and have heat by the time I get there.
I use USMobile for my cell plan because they have the cheapest data only plans. First month get a large enough plan and see how much data is actually used and adjust from there.
I may just put a small rig in my cabin since it has a small solar install that could run something little. hmmmmmm good idea.

-4g router modem; Amazon;
Yeacomm 4G LTE CPE Router with Sim Card Slot, 4G Wi-Fi Router with 2 RJ11 and 4 RJ45 Ports, Unlocked 3G 4G Wireless Router for Home/Office, Support Voice Calling, Not for Verizon

I know your reply is quite a few months old, but how is sharing the 4G from your iPhone (or any type of phone for that matter) sustainable? The longer you leave your phone plugged into the wall for longer, the more it's total battery capacity depletes.

Hi Larson,

First of all, it looks like we are both starting our mining experience as whatever post I click on that I find interesting comes from you
While I am not an expert of any sort and you already had several people confirming, I will also add that my current setup of arouund 30 ASICs is working on 4G without any issues.

What I am still strugling with is ability to connect to the farm as my ISP is doing something ticky where the public IP of the router is not the WAN IP it is showing in the router status. This prevent DDNS from working and makes connecting to it harder. I am thinking about reversing the setup and have the remote mobile router connect to my "home" VPN server which has static IP.

Alas, that's not correct.

Stratum is a permanent tcp connection, so there is no connection initialisation required each time work is sent to the miner and each time a miner sends a share to the pool, only once at the start.
The stratum connection protocol is a bit messed up also, since it was designed on top of LP, but has multiple extra packets sent and received during initialisation.

The idea of a ping is to show the time for a packet to be sent to a destination and the reply to get back from the destination,
which is exactly what a share does and exactly what a work items does.
Those mining packet sizes are also quite small (ref: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41861265 )
A ping, by default, ends up being 64 bytes, sent and received, thus when compared to a share, the larger size of under 200 bytes sent (and 51 bytes received) means that it's the same in terms of how networks work.
Even though a share also means a second round trip reply stating if it was accepted or rejected, that 2nd round trip has no effect on the time to get the share to the pool.

So yes, indeed, a ping 'can' give you a good idea of your connection performance to the pool's node you are mining to.
However, it can also give you a worse result depending upon the network you are connecting through, since ping packets are usually given lower priority.
Also, of course, the packet gets to the pool before the reply gets back to you, so you could suggest that the time to get a share to the pool is half the ping time.

Yes my company has several remote locations that they do this. Works very well. If you put a proxy server in between the LTE modem and your mining network, it makes it smoother and less chance the carrier will see the constant flow of data and kick you off the cell site.

When you say "Ping" I suppose you mean ICMP packets, aka you go into CMD and type ping pool.com ?  that is actually somehow inaccurate as far as mining is concerned, what you need is "Stratum Ping", whereby you connect to the pool via Stratum protocol, initiates a login via the Stratum protocol and then receive the response from the pool, the round trip duration will be your accurate ping results.

Hi, I bought 3G/4G modem from AliExpress. I have 1 asic and 1 rig plus TV and all other stuff. Everything is working fine. Average ping for pools in EU is 50-60. Germany/France/Italy less than 10. USA/Australia/China 200+

yes it's work and work good

If there is a cell tower close by there should not be much latency problem,  would be almost same as WIFI.

I've been running some years on 4G and never had troubles whit connection, tought i had a Cell Tower just on top of me, but the towers are mostly everywere now days.

Packages of information are so small that they wont get stuck either whit like 100-200ms or abit higher.

5G was meant to be faster and better than 4G network, I remember when 3G was the faster years back in my country when 4G was introduced I saw a bigger noticeable difference in hashing Milli second, I have less rejected shares as well, I believe 5G will perform way better with lower latency

Yes, 3GB internet on a prepaid card is more than enough.

15 Megabytes a day sounds very reasonable, thanks a lot!
BTC full nodes however, damn, I seed like hundreds of GB a month at home, I saw recently.. 

Oh that's very strange, I will watchover this carefully.

I use Braiinos I don't know if it changes the data ?

Will save some logs everyday on my servers and look at it

A single miner on a standard stratum pool does roughly 15MBytes a day per pool connection.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41861265

I also log all internet I/O a miner of mine does at home and it is always close to this per day.

Tiny compared to probably anything else you ever do on the internet.

Up vs Down of that 15MBytes: similar
Up is about 48% i.e. down is about 52%

If you are using non-standard firmware, i.e. not original firmware, then those numbers may be a lot larger depending upon what the hack firmware also sends and receives all day long ...

yes it works

Cool thanks for the quick feedback! To clarify - since Mo. is not an official unit (is it?) - you're talking about MB? Megabytes / megabits?

Near to nothing !

I have many antminer running + laptops mining and I download less than 50 Mo. Upload is more than 850 Mo in general but it is never exactly the same

I will check from 1 to 30th September, and update my message here

Ps : I only solo mine, I don't know if there is an influence on these informations but I don't think so

Hey, I'm wondering, since many 4G contracts still have limited total download capacity - how much data does a miner use up each month?

I can answer because I only use the shared connection from 4G via my Iphone.
its works perfectly

I connect my Ubuntu server via WIFI ( 4G shared) and I share this connection via ethernet to a ethernet switch. From here RJ45 to my ASICs. Works very well h24. the iphone stays here always reloading battery.

In theory, it should be an order of magnitude better, although mining doesn't require that super-low latency, 4G as is pretty solid and has an average latency below 70ms according to my own experience, and mind you, the infrastructure here is not the best, so I doubt you will have any issues mining over 4G in terms of latency, your issue will be the bandwidth consumption, if you have a few gears that will be doable, if not, you have some issues.

To solve that you could use a mining proxy, but I have yet to find a stable proxy that I can trust with a few PH worths of hashrate, so that could be an issue.

I've been mining with 9x Antminer S9 inside a Windmill for about a year now using 4G.
Its working pretty good. Haven't really had any problems with shares being transmitted too late or anything.
I can't tell you though how good this scales as I haven't tried with more than 9 devices simultaneously.
I will expand this operation later this year though and if I encounter any problems I will let you know!

Depends on your location and the quality of the 4g/5g network.
If were talking about a good quality network and you have good reception theres no reason you cant do it.

Latency is not an inherent problem with 4g/5g or really any network technology thats used but it can be a local issue.
You could check network uptime stats if theyre available but really the only way to know for sure is to try it out.

Yes this was my point, I'm not sure latency will work.
BTW with a 5G instead of 4G, would latency be better? (I know it's a noob question, but I usually got internet with fiber or wired phone)

Latency is probably the biggest issue here, but I would love to hear from anyone doing this with a commercial grade 4g modem/router like a Cradlepoint.   Not a cell phone, or consumer grade "hot spot".

If it has stable internet then you can but you will need some device to connect your ASIC with wifi

And I think it also depends on how many ASIC machines you have?


Why not buy a modem instead? A modem that can support a sim card network? Then directly connect all your miner if you have more than 4 miners then you would need a router with more slots.

Hi guys,

Have you guys ever try to mine with couple of asics connected to the Internet via 4G phone network.

Is it reliable long term or some issues are to be expected and this is not a viable option?

Many thanks for your feedbacks.

Larson311