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October 08, 2024, 02:44:22 AM
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I'm against it. Very inhumane and unnatural
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October 05, 2024, 11:06:06 PM
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When I've been in a hospital, I actually saw some people whose condition was so bad that only death could save them from their pain. Some of these conditions are unfortunately genetic, so the fate of these people was basically decided even before they were born. The experience of communicating with them for quite some time has convinced me that assisted suicide should be completely legal, as a measure to free them from their pain.

I also believe that there should be some utilitarian measures to ensure the welfare of most people, such as subsidizing genetic screening of embryos and so on. Genetic research is a new big topic in medical sciences, and some of the next Nobel prizes will definitely be awarded for achievements in this field.


Yes I did see that too when I was in hospital. I was not in some big health problems but there is people that are there. And they do not want to live in pain and make it painful for their family.  That is why it is a topic where there is no right answer it is different for each person.
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October 05, 2024, 02:18:23 PM
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People in a hospital are in sad shape. Big Pharma can't make money off them unless they keep them sick, but alive. The drugs are a poison designed to keep them sick but alive.

Get the people out of the hospital to help them. Use emergency help for them when they need that. But otherwise, helping them means getting them out of the hospital.

Murdering people with so-called suicide doesn't help them.

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October 05, 2024, 01:31:01 PM
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When I've been in a hospital, I actually saw some people whose condition was so bad that only death could save them from their pain. Some of these conditions are unfortunately genetic, so the fate of these people was basically decided even before they were born. The experience of communicating with them for quite some time has convinced me that assisted suicide should be completely legal, as a measure to free them from their pain.

I also believe that there should be some utilitarian measures to ensure the welfare of most people, such as subsidizing genetic screening of embryos and so on. Genetic research is a new big topic in medical sciences, and some of the next Nobel prizes will definitely be awarded for achievements in this field.
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October 02, 2024, 07:19:41 AM
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What does every one think about this  Assisted Suicide? It is now legal in country of Switzerland with this machine called the Sarco.
For me if a person is so sick and want to die in peace that is ok for me. But he has to make sure that is ok with his family and his friends that know he does suffer.
https://crazed.net/2024/03/18/3d-printed-death-assisted-suicide-pod-promises-a-humane-death-within-minutes/
Life is given and no one can take it from us but the giver .. even how hard we are facing still life can be given more if you deserve it .
I am not giving consent about this because this is against my belief in life .
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October 02, 2024, 12:59:53 AM
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What does every one think about this  Assisted Suicide? It is now legal in country of Switzerland with this machine called the Sarco.
For me if a person is so sick and want to die in peace that is ok for me. But he has to make sure that is ok with his family and his friends that know he does suffer.
https://crazed.net/2024/03/18/3d-printed-death-assisted-suicide-pod-promises-a-humane-death-within-minutes/

IMO it should be legal to end your own life and seek assistance to do so.

I have seen people who are just suffering from health issues with no joy in their life...


Well yes we can say that is only right thing to do if some one wants to die. But what if he is just not well mentally and he can be saved by using therapy or good drugs. Then it is better then him taking his own life.
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September 26, 2024, 12:43:50 AM
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What does every one think about this  Assisted Suicide? It is now legal in country of Switzerland with this machine called the Sarco.
For me if a person is so sick and want to die in peace that is ok for me. But he has to make sure that is ok with his family and his friends that know he does suffer.
https://crazed.net/2024/03/18/3d-printed-death-assisted-suicide-pod-promises-a-humane-death-within-minutes/

IMO it should be legal to end your own life and seek assistance to do so.

I have seen people who are just suffering from health issues with no joy in their life...
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September 26, 2024, 12:38:23 AM
#23
Well now there have been arrests for people who did help with the first assisted suicide. Police in Switzerland made multiple arrests after a woman ended her life.
I did not think it was going to be a well ending for these people. I think assisted suicide is a topic that alot of people do think is not right.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8144v9pveo
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April 04, 2024, 12:35:56 AM
#22
You said "it is now legal in the country of Switzerland with this machine called the Sarco.  With this, people can commit suicide with less difficulty". Even if it is legal in Switzerland, I will not go for it. A person should never commit suicide. It should be natural.
correct , even how you call this still there is a "SUICIDE" in that word that we all knew is prohibited(well not in switzerland anymore) but for people that value life? this will never be a thing to deliver all us to drying.
death should not be treated such this but its importance .
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March 30, 2024, 01:17:28 PM
#21
Where is the point when assisted suicide can be called murder on the one who did the assisting? If somebody says, "Use your gun to kill me," is such a death really suicide?

When somebody makes a machine that a person can use to kill himself, to what extent is it murder by the machine maker? For example. A gun maker isn't making guns for people to use to kill themselves. But the gun maker knows that some people will use the guns that way. Btw, Switzerland has more guns per capita than almost any other nation.

On the other hand, when somebody makes a machine for the purpose of using it to kill himself, not everybody will use it that way. Some people will opt for a gun, instead. So, is it intent on the part of the machine maker that makes him a murderer? Or is it only the machine user who is the murderer... if he successfully does the job, that is?

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March 30, 2024, 04:42:11 AM
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For me I don't see anything wrong with his innovation of suicidal Machine. Apart from some people who want to die voulnarable, there are many other people whom the military might need to eliminate silently expecially when they have comited and offence. Instead of them to be killed by firering squard or killed by hanging in the Court, it would be better they apply the method of using the self suicidal Machine. Sometimes it may also be good to eliminate those who m may have sufferd with an intensive and unsurviveable illness that will require the victim to approve a quick suicide after suffering alot. So I think the invention is good but it must not be ranpard it should be on request and the government should be aware of who want to use it and reason before approval.

All you said here is nothing but the truth, I supported mostly the area of executing some death sentence offense where most executioner failed due to fear of sowing their hand with blood I think since the machine do the work it can be easy.

The major reason I also concur to this is that succid is commit by those that need it, even without such machine many commit succid by jumping into lagum,lake river, Ocean, taking of acid and some other substances to commit succid this will not only stand as first mechanism for succid but alternative to relief them if the stress and pain.
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March 30, 2024, 04:22:06 AM
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You said "it is now legal in the country of Switzerland with this machine called the Sarco.  With this, people can commit suicide with less difficulty". Even if it is legal in Switzerland, I will not go for it. A person should never commit suicide. It should be natural.
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March 30, 2024, 03:45:07 AM
#18
In my country suicide is against the law and one who found attempting it may face prison time or even death penalty which is ironic.
that make sense , imagine when you attempted committing suicide and you fail ? the government will do it for you  Grin giving you death penalty is truly an amazing job , wondering you are facing death penalty because you tried killing yourself that is so cool of your country mate  Cheesy


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In my opinion, suicide is not acceptable and one who have such thoughts has to find a therapist and improve their lifestyle and in cases like medically sick the technology has evolved a lot so treatment for most chronic conditions even possible.
people mostly are laughing about the attempt for suicide but they did not pay attention to what is the reason for this problem because we knew how thankful human to have His life while other is trying to take it by themselves .
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March 30, 2024, 01:07:58 AM
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In my country suicide is against the law and one who found attempting it may face prison time or even death penalty which is ironic.

In my opinion, suicide is not acceptable and one who have such thoughts has to find a therapist and improve their lifestyle and in cases like medically sick the technology has evolved a lot so treatment for most chronic conditions even possible.
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March 30, 2024, 12:17:32 AM
#16

Yes we can talk to people about our thoughts and the problems. But if we are so sick we can not get ourself better well why do we have to live in such pain.

 Yes brother,I know very well that it is difficult for a person to get out of the cycle of suicide, and I know very well that suicidal thoughts come in the last stage, from which we cannot turn back. I know very well that no one in this world feels what you feel, even those who want to help you.
Life is a b!!ch and does not give gifts, and overcoming suffering and pain, no matter the difficulties, is overcoming life itself, and this is the goal. In the end, no one will realize and no one will understand the extent of the pains, falls, and disappointments that we went through, but all of these make mens real mens  . Suicide is a disappointment not for the individual but for all of society, and I hope everyone gets the necessary help before it is too late.


Yes we can agree with this brother. This is a hard thing we must have ti speak about, it is a real thing happening now in this world.
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March 29, 2024, 04:35:35 AM
#15
Suicide is never an answer to our suffering , even the stage 5 cancer sometimes see miracle so why end so soon when you can let God take that last breath from you?

Suicide has never been the ideal solution. I know very well that anyone who has suicidal thoughts will not understand this and the majority avoid talking about it, but what is the purpose of it? Do you think that when you commit suicide, you really put an end to your suffering and pain? Of course not, even in religions suicide is forbidden.
How can a country like Switzerland legislate such a disgraceful act? I no longer understand what is happening in our societies.
If you are suffering in silence and think that you are alone and that no one cares about you, remember that God cares. Remember that there are friends and relatives who care about your life and who will help you if you ask for help.

You are there, whatever your thoughts are, please just talk, there is always someone who will listen, just talk to someone.


Yes we can talk to people about our thoughts and the problems. But if we are so sick we can not get ourself better well why do we have to live in such pain.
so you are allowing this mate? what if your mother or own family has this suffering meaning you will let that assisted suicide happen?
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March 27, 2024, 04:29:37 PM
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Yes we can talk to people about our thoughts and the problems. But if we are so sick we can not get ourself better well why do we have to live in such pain.

 Yes brother,I know very well that it is difficult for a person to get out of the cycle of suicide, and I know very well that suicidal thoughts come in the last stage, from which we cannot turn back. I know very well that no one in this world feels what you feel, even those who want to help you.
Life is a b!!ch and does not give gifts, and overcoming suffering and pain, no matter the difficulties, is overcoming life itself, and this is the goal. In the end, no one will realize and no one will understand the extent of the pains, falls, and disappointments that we went through, but all of these make mens real mens  . Suicide is a disappointment not for the individual but for all of society, and I hope everyone gets the necessary help before it is too late.
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March 27, 2024, 09:33:37 AM
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^^^ We don't have to live in such pain. There are medical and nutritional techniques available to alleviate the pain. But...

Suicide, even assisted suicide, is something that can take a person into pain forever if done the wrong way. Suicide is self-murder. And murder isn't something that is condoned by God. Nobody can say for a fact that all self-murder is NOT forgiven. But it's a very serious matter, and involves the question of faith in Jesus-salvation.

Don't lose faith in Jesus-salvation, or the pain will be terribly bad throughout eternity, after the Judgment... way worse than any pain suffered in this life.

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March 26, 2024, 11:14:07 PM
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Suicide has never been the ideal solution. I know very well that anyone who has suicidal thoughts will not understand this and the majority avoid talking about it, but what is the purpose of it? Do you think that when you commit suicide, you really put an end to your suffering and pain? Of course not, even in religions suicide is forbidden.
How can a country like Switzerland legislate such a disgraceful act? I no longer understand what is happening in our societies.
If you are suffering in silence and think that you are alone and that no one cares about you, remember that God cares. Remember that there are friends and relatives who care about your life and who will help you if you ask for help.

You are there, whatever your thoughts are, please just talk, there is always someone who will listen, just talk to someone.


Yes we can talk to people about our thoughts and the problems. But if we are so sick we can not get ourself better well why do we have to live in such pain.
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March 26, 2024, 10:05:39 AM
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Suicide has never been the ideal solution. I know very well that anyone who has suicidal thoughts will not understand this and the majority avoid talking about it, but what is the purpose of it? Do you think that when you commit suicide, you really put an end to your suffering and pain? Of course not, even in religions suicide is forbidden.
How can a country like Switzerland legislate such a disgraceful act? I no longer understand what is happening in our societies.
If you are suffering in silence and think that you are alone and that no one cares about you, remember that God cares. Remember that there are friends and relatives who care about your life and who will help you if you ask for help.

You are there, whatever your thoughts are, please just talk, there is always someone who will listen, just talk to someone.
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March 26, 2024, 06:49:32 AM
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There's this "mercy killing" or "euthanasia" that have been done for years. It's the same as this assisted suicide.

This is a sensitive topic and we don't know someone's situation if it's actually going to help them or not when they're in terrible situation and they want to end it because they can't take it anymore.  Undecided

It's all the same, they just rename it. Sarco machine though is just painless.
There are other ways like putting you to sleep and then injecting a dose to make the muscles relax and then stop the heart from pumping.

It's just insane that you need to pay in order to die. I would probably just jump from the 10th floor and enjoy the fall if I wanted to die. It's free. Its for the sick bedridden so its for them
exactly , so at least even in the last day of life we experience how to fly like a
bird and free by jumping into that highest building , wondering also why need to spend
money just for them to kill you? if I were to die maybe I will just try to kill criminals so
if they got me first then I'm dead but if I got them then i am hero .
am not supporting any of this mercy killing or assisted suicide .
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March 25, 2024, 03:51:53 PM
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There's this "mercy killing" or "euthanasia" that have been done for years. It's the same as this assisted suicide.

This is a sensitive topic and we don't know someone's situation if it's actually going to help them or not when they're in terrible situation and they want to end it because they can't take it anymore.  Undecided

It's all the same, they just rename it. Sarco machine though is just painless.
There are other ways like putting you to sleep and then injecting a dose to make the muscles relax and then stop the heart from pumping.

It's just insane that you need to pay in order to die. I would probably just jump from the 10th floor and enjoy the fall if I wanted to die. It's free. Its for the sick bedridden so its for them
I wouldn't even do that. I'll just wait until my last breath and I don't want to go things that are up against the nature.

If I die with a disease or anything, I want it to become a natural death. I know that it's going to give me pain until I just wanna give up and I understand those that are going through with that pain.

But that's how I want if ever God is gonna take my life and it's my time to go.
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March 25, 2024, 02:20:10 PM
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For me I don't see anything wrong with his innovation of suicidal Machine. Apart from some people who want to die voulnarable, there are many other people whom the military might need to eliminate silently expecially when they have comited and offence. Instead of them to be killed by firering squard or killed by hanging in the Court, it would be better they apply the method of using the self suicidal Machine. Sometimes it may also be good to eliminate those who m may have sufferd with an intensive and unsurviveable illness that will require the victim to approve a quick suicide after suffering alot. So I think the invention is good but it must not be ranpard it should be on request and the government should be aware of who want to use it and reason before approval.
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March 24, 2024, 02:43:47 PM
#7
There's this "mercy killing" or "euthanasia" that have been done for years. It's the same as this assisted suicide.

This is a sensitive topic and we don't know someone's situation if it's actually going to help them or not when they're in terrible situation and they want to end it because they can't take it anymore.  Undecided

It's all the same, they just rename it. Sarco machine though is just painless.
There are other ways like putting you to sleep and then injecting a dose to make the muscles relax and then stop the heart from pumping.

It's just insane that you need to pay in order to die. I would probably just jump from the 10th floor and enjoy the fall if I wanted to die. It's free. Its for the sick bedridden so its for them
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March 24, 2024, 02:21:40 PM
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There's this "mercy killing" or "euthanasia" that have been done for years. It's the same as this assisted suicide.

This is a sensitive topic and we don't know someone's situation if it's actually going to help them or not when they're in terrible situation and they want to end it because they can't take it anymore.  Undecided
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March 24, 2024, 07:23:36 AM
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For me, this could never be an option. If I were suffering from a sickness, I would love to just go naturally even if it meant enduring the pain a little longer. There are times that sick people get better even if it seemed like they were not gonna live for longer anymore and that kind of hope would want to keep me going. But if I don’t get better then at least I know I held on.

But I wouldn’t blame those who get tired of hoping. Hope is a deadly and dangerous thing.
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March 24, 2024, 06:15:26 AM
#4
Life is valuable and thus should be regarded as such however
sometimes there are people that would suffer more alive
than dead. There are people who are already bedridden and
can not do much with their life anymore. Additionally, their family members
also suffer. I know that maybe their family members do not complain,
they also suffer greatly from taking care of the sick one. So to me,
even if it’s a little painful they should do it if they really think
it’s the right choice for them.
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March 24, 2024, 04:54:18 AM
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maybe in countries where there are quite a lot of agnostics, this is okay, but if we discuss countries where the majority of citizens have a religion, maybe this will become controversial. because in any religion, killing oneself is taboo and not permitted for any reason. even if the person is in pain, that is his personal right, and he has the right to ask the hospital to end his life, but legalizing this nationally is probably not good and is against any religion. especially in developing countries, this is not allowed because many people will use it as an excuse to kill themselves.
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March 24, 2024, 02:29:50 AM
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What does every one think about this  Assisted Suicide? It is now legal in country of Switzerland with this machine called the Sarco.
For me if a person is so sick and want to die in peace that is ok for me. But he has to make sure that is ok with his family and his friends that know he does suffer.
https://crazed.net/2024/03/18/3d-printed-death-assisted-suicide-pod-promises-a-humane-death-within-minutes/
not sure if this is debatable because we have cultures and beliefs added is the religions that mostly will be the issue here because in many christians believe that life should not be taken by anyone but the creator.
I believe in Japan they also has this way of taking life and what you called HARIKIRI same as this EUTHANESIA that practice to end the suffer of the patient , but I am totally agreed in this because for me if there is a life there is a chance.
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March 24, 2024, 01:00:11 AM
#1
What does every one think about this  Assisted Suicide? It is now legal in country of Switzerland with this machine called the Sarco.
For me if a person is so sick and want to die in peace that is ok for me. But he has to make sure that is ok with his family and his friends that know he does suffer.
https://crazed.net/2024/03/18/3d-printed-death-assisted-suicide-pod-promises-a-humane-death-within-minutes/
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