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... It's like us fearing ants because they are hostile.

In America, it's not ants we fear. It's UNCLE.    Cheesy
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Common sense dictates that if there aliens able to travel the vast distances of space to reach us, than they are so technologically advanced that we pose no threat to them if they contact us. It's like us fearing ants because they are hostile.

But what if they like tasty, exotic foods?

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Common sense dictates that if there aliens able to travel the vast distances of space to reach us, than they are so technologically advanced that we pose no threat to them if they contact us. It's like us fearing ants because they are hostile.

On the other hand, if they are just a little ahead of us, and if their ship has been traveling for thousands of years to get here, and if they are all in stasis awaiting the day of their arrival, we may be able to blast them out of the sky on their entry into orbit around earth.

If they are anything like us, their people do not exist any longer. Thousands of years ago already, they have had civil wars on their home planet, that at least pushed their people back into some kind of dark, dark ages... if not destroying their whole race entirely for all time... except for the group in stasis on their way here, that is.

They pose no threat to us. It's their own stupidity that poses a threat to them. We're just mopping up. They're as good as gone as they would have been if they had never made the trip.

And, Btw, our self-destruction is coming as well. The only reason we haven't done it to ourselves already is, we haven't been strong enough in the past. Somebody's finger is gonna slip and accidentally launch some nukes. Then everybody else will do it on purpose, in retaliation. We're good as gone right now.

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Common sense dictates that if there aliens able to travel the vast distances of space to reach us, than they are so technologically advanced that we pose no threat to them if they contact us. It's like us fearing ants because they are hostile.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said. 

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.” 

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

this is really interesting exploration .. when they prove this findings belong to an advanced civilization, this world genuinely will go crazy..

yes you are right .. but you miss the some points... maybe these alliens wants to invade the earth Smiley who knows ? Smiley

nope. no gonna happen. humans are more hostile. that is why up to today, no aliens yet have tried to communicate.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said. 

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.” 

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

this is really interesting exploration .. when they prove this findings belong to an advanced civilization, this world genuinely will go crazy..

yes you are right .. but you miss the some points... maybe these alliens wants to invade the earth Smiley who knows ? Smiley
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Astronomers are either retards or liars, take your pick.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said. 

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.” 

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

this is really interesting exploration .. when they prove this findings belong to an advanced civilization, this world genuinely will go crazy..
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There are documentaries about aliens and most of them provide proof. not sure if its true though. one documentary states that we human are the alien in this planet  Grin
The Nickola Tesla documentary said that Nickola has been communicating with aliens that is why his inventions are a lot sophisticated and he is far a head of his time.
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No Laser Signals Detected from 'Alien Megastructure' Star

It's looking less and less likely that a faraway star's strange dimming was caused by some kind of "alien megastructure."

http://www.space.com/31333-alien-megastructure-star-seti-search.html
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Intelligent Aliens are smarter than the those energy gatherers, gathering energy from a sun by placing a giant antenna around it. This proves that this story is another hoax.

Maybe (probably) not an alien structure, but maybe not a hoax either.  The original statements from the scientists involved pretty clearly did NOT state it was an alien structure, but posited that it was odd data, which COULD be such and such.

The media has blown it up into what it is now.  "Alien Cruise Ship Rocks into the Milky Way" or whatever.

Odds are it is a natural thing that science just hasn't seen before and so doesn't have a data profile to match it to to determine "this is what it is"  Lots of unknowns out there and we haven't even begun to scratch the surface, so I would expect an endless stream of "WTF is that?" type things as we poke our noses out there and stumble across things we haven't seen before.



It's obviously greedy capitalists.  Some corporation greedily taking 25% of the entire output of the star.  Think of the cold, miserable poor, left in the dark.  Who will care for them?

I hear the next big endeavor by trump is to create the "Trump Sphere" around the sun and can harvest 26.7% of the entire stars output... see that socialist!? Capitalism is hard at work, providing you, the consumer, a better/more high quality product of sustainable energy. 

[chant] 4 more years! 4 more years! [/chant]
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Intelligent Aliens are smarter than the those energy gatherers, gathering energy from a sun by placing a giant antenna around it. This proves that this story is another hoax.

Maybe (probably) not an alien structure, but maybe not a hoax either.  The original statements from the scientists involved pretty clearly did NOT state it was an alien structure, but posited that it was odd data, which COULD be such and such.

The media has blown it up into what it is now.  "Alien Cruise Ship Rocks into the Milky Way" or whatever.

Odds are it is a natural thing that science just hasn't seen before and so doesn't have a data profile to match it to to determine "this is what it is"  Lots of unknowns out there and we haven't even begun to scratch the surface, so I would expect an endless stream of "WTF is that?" type things as we poke our noses out there and stumble across things we haven't seen before.



It's obviously greedy capitalists.  Some corporation greedily taking 25% of the entire output of the star.  Think of the cold, miserable poor, left in the dark.  Who will care for them?
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Intelligent Aliens are smarter than the those energy gatherers, gathering energy from a sun by placing a giant antenna around it. This proves that this story is another hoax.

Maybe (probably) not an alien structure, but maybe not a hoax either.  The original statements from the scientists involved pretty clearly did NOT state it was an alien structure, but posited that it was odd data, which COULD be such and such.

The media has blown it up into what it is now.  "Alien Cruise Ship Rocks into the Milky Way" or whatever.

Odds are it is a natural thing that science just hasn't seen before and so doesn't have a data profile to match it to to determine "this is what it is"  Lots of unknowns out there and we haven't even begun to scratch the surface, so I would expect an endless stream of "WTF is that?" type things as we poke our noses out there and stumble across things we haven't seen before.

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Intelligent Aliens are smarter than the those energy gatherers, gathering energy from a sun by placing a giant antenna around it. This proves that this story is another hoax.
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lets hope that sometime we will leave this greedy earth..  Cheesy
Agreed.  I want some of those greedy stars.
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lets hope that sometime we will leave this greedy earth..  Cheesy

There's lots of people in the cemeteries who wanted to stay, but couldn't.    Grin
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lets hope that sometime we will leave this greedy earth..  Cheesy
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It must be giant donut spinning up and down. So that can cut sunlight.
I cannot think better explanation about this for now.
(irony here is: our newsmakers overrate everything.)
legendary
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scientists are nerds and nerds want to believe in aliens. its speculation and not really science but mostly scientists like to throw provocative headlines like this out there because it can translate into funding.
Aliens could be a lot closer than we think?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdr8wb4Ip2E

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD83dqSfC0Y

maybe this is what aliens do to hide there ships and planets but there 1000 years ahead in cloaking tech Grin



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scientists are nerds and nerds want to believe in aliens. its speculation and not really science but mostly scientists like to throw provocative headlines like this out there because it can translate into funding.

Well I mean it could translate into funding, but remember that these guys who found it are working for a university and not, say, NASA... There might be a bit of funding from the university to do some more research into the matter, but I wouldn't think that they would be throwing millions of dollars toward them at all (not even close to that number probably).
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scientists are nerds and nerds want to believe in aliens. its speculation and not really science but mostly scientists like to throw provocative headlines like this out there because it can translate into funding.


most scientists I know are curious people by nature.  maybe that translates into wanting to believe, although there's a pretty fine line between that and simply acknowledging the possibility and exploring that within the limits of available information.

in this case I don't know that they launched the headline frenzy.  I've seen a range of headlines on this issue, from more moderated to crazy stuff.  that I lay at the feet of the click-baiters and media folk, moreso than the scientists- at least on this issue

I will agree that some of these guys can be funding whores.  not all, certainly, but I've seen some pump their cause more than a little to get that next grant.....

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scientists are nerds and nerds want to believe in aliens. its speculation and not really science but mostly scientists like to throw provocative headlines like this out there because it can translate into funding.
As a scientist I want to believe also, but there is not much science here. It's interesting. However it is a long way from discovering aliens.
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scientists are nerds and nerds want to believe in aliens. its speculation and not really science but mostly scientists like to throw provocative headlines like this out there because it can translate into funding.
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Must be some insane "bones" to be supporting weight of creatures that large given structural rigidity needs goes up by cubing for ever size doubling.
An interesting question would be whether a mass of iron the size of a planet would naturally become a sphere.  Easy to prove that it would.  Then move to the most rigid material known of, and ask the same question.  I'm certain that it would.

Therefore, size constraints exist on non spherical structures.

And what we are talking about here is way, way beyond the size of a planet.

One might argue then, what of a solar sail, maintained against the light pressure from the star, exactly matching gravity?

This has been studied and is the subject of some patents.
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Must be some insane "bones" to be supporting weight of creatures that large given structural rigidity needs goes up by cubing for ever size doubling.
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Those advance aliens will come here for sure. it is just a matter of time. Humanity should stop this useless wars we are currently on. And instead let us unite and take it to the next level. One nation one planet. If we are united and all our goal is to conquer space will be a Type 2 Cilivilization in just a matter of 50 years.

Why we are fighting over this small lands? There are limitless planets out there that waiting to be discovered.
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i agree, there are many things that can explain this,

it bothers me when I see legit science efforts junked up with stuff like this
True, but asserting that this is possibly artificial is not junk science.

A primary method of establishing that something is artificial is to look at it's level of intrinsic chaos, it's entropy.

Things in the universe tend toward low entropy.  Forces cause that - gravitational, chemical, etc.

From a long way away, looking at Earth, one can deduce that it likely contains life.  From the percentages of gases in the atmosphere.  Oxygen is reactive, so there is no natural way that an atmosphere would continue over long periods of time to contain oxygen - unless it was being renewed.  EG, plants.

Similarly, implausible blocking of 20% of a star's light periodically indicates something moving around that star, which has NOT moved to low entropy.  EG, Huh




When you are using  Huh I start to get scared a bit. Why?
Deep inside I know we are not alone in the universe. I want to believe. But deep inside, I am a bit scared of a distant culture who turned one of our biggest fantasy into reality, like a dyson sphere. Their culture may very well be based on a predatory evolution, like us. If I can recognize it, no matter how futuristic the concept is, then it is a reflection of us, with the good and the bad.

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i agree, there are many things that can explain this,

it bothers me when I see legit science efforts junked up with stuff like this
True, but asserting that this is possibly artificial is not junk science.

A primary method of establishing that something is artificial is to look at it's level of intrinsic chaos, it's entropy.

Things in the universe tend toward low entropy.  Forces cause that - gravitational, chemical, etc.

From a long way away, looking at Earth, one can deduce that it likely contains life.  From the percentages of gases in the atmosphere.  Oxygen is reactive, so there is no natural way that an atmosphere would continue over long periods of time to contain oxygen - unless it was being renewed.  EG, plants.

Similarly, implausible blocking of 20% of a star's light periodically indicates something moving around that star, which has NOT moved to low entropy.  EG, Huh

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I personally believe there are aliens living out in depths of sky but never thought anything like megabuild etc.
I think we should put eye on it for long, it sounds crazy interesting.
Also why would you send them radiowaves? To make them get us and enslave us?
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i agree, there are many things that can explain this,

it bothers me when I see legit science efforts junked up with stuff like this
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There are no aliens on stars in milky way, no water, not a damn thing. The astronomers/ Nasa/ Space freaks were running dry, they weren't getting funded so they had to come up with something that get people's attention and this what they came up with and now they're going to start working on programmes to send more space crafts, build more advanced radios etc. etc. and they'll get paid to live a happy rich life for another 50 years or so. And then they'll find water/aliens on some other planet.

Enormous water reservoir found in space is bigger than 140 trillion earth oceans

Okay, so no water to speak of, but still some water nonetheless.  Tongue Tongue Tongue
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Once you see the light, it dawns on you. "hey somebody crafted this light", "oh WTF is this? 100% PURE HOLY WATER!".

It's amazing how much of science remains intact and useful when you sea what's really going on. It really leaves little doubt man and life on earth are an artificial creation.

This space hoax, what a joke!
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From what I understood from the article and didn't really understand about it, was how where they able to locate this sphere that completely surrounds a whole star?  Wouldn't that sphere just be "hidden" by the darkness of space, since within the inside would be the star?  

Only if it were a complete sphere.  Before you build the sphere, you would first build a ring around the planet star.

Maybe we just happened to catch them in the process of building it.
  No.  Materials will not form a "ring around a star."

Materials are, at scales of millions of miles, fluids.  That is why all the planets are roundular.

In turn this means that compressive forces dominate.  A "ring" around a star collapses and becomes planets, or asteroids.

But that's not what was found.  What was found was high fluctuations in light output, with a periodicity.  From that you can figure the distance it is from the star.  And basically, it is HUGE.  Think in terms of half the size of the star.

Might be a black hole or such.
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^ progress isn't as fast as most would like. Personal jetpacks, and flying cars aren't the norm yet either. So what's new? And no, the moon landings weren't faked. I agree that there is a deception in there, but that isn't it.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.
unfortunately, the uneducated and ignorant masses fear what they dont know, and would rather pour money into pointless wars and the pockets of lying politicians over the space program or beneficial government programs (social security).

given the backwards trend of society i dont expect much progress to be made on the space front until aliens contact us first.

We've made huge progress in space, every decade since the 1950s, or 1930s, or 1970s, where ever you wish to put the starting point.

I'm playing with lunar maps accurate down to about one pixel per half meter....for the entire moon.  

Same thing is available for mars, but the sand moves around a bit.





The huge progress only came about because of the much bigger lies. While moon landings may truly have happened back in the '60s (looks like it was all a movie deception), the whole idea in the '50s was that we would have moon bases in the '70s, and we would be making trips back and forth at least weekly if not daily. It was a promise that hasn't been fulfilled yet. And by the looks of it, is was a complete deception, just to get more funding.

And here you go, trying to further the deception. Good little government agent.

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From what I understood from the article and didn't really understand about it, was how where they able to locate this sphere that completely surrounds a whole star?  Wouldn't that sphere just be "hidden" by the darkness of space, since within the inside would be the star?  

Only if it were a complete sphere.  Before you build the sphere, you would first build a ring around the planet star.

Maybe we just happened to catch them in the process of building it.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.
unfortunately, the uneducated and ignorant masses fear what they dont know, and would rather pour money into pointless wars and the pockets of lying politicians over the space program or beneficial government programs (social security).

given the backwards trend of society i dont expect much progress to be made on the space front until aliens contact us first.

We've made huge progress in space, every decade since the 1950s, or 1930s, or 1970s, where ever you wish to put the starting point.

I'm playing with lunar maps accurate down to about one pixel per half meter....for the entire moon. 

Same thing is available for mars, but the sand moves around a bit.



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^ don't think there is any relation between the size of a planet and the size of life that can exist there. Aliens could be giants in a small planet or microbes in a giant planet too.

@Wilikon twilight zone? That was a great episode. And a great show.

YES!





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^ don't think there is any relation between the size of a planet and the size of life that can exist there. Aliens could be giants in a small planet or microbes in a giant planet too.

@Wilikon twilight zone? That was a great episode. And a great show.
We will see one day who is right. Cheesy Cheesy
YOUR WRONG Grin anything possible
Planets decide what size the creatures are and who get to live on it Grin
10k bigger than earth.. there would be bigger creatures than earth Grin Grin
don.t care what you say but i believe it to be true..
I know what your saying that size wont matter but 10k bigger would Grin
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They wont be mega structures to giants..YES..GIANT ALIENS..
Not so far fetched to say they might of come from a planet 10 thousand times bigger than earth
and there species might be huge..
If you believe in the bible even that mentions giants also people reckon they have seen 2 mile space ships..
So to a giant that star might be tiny so they might use it as an energy source ..
and the mega structures could be like a petrol station you park up and fill your spaceship up with sun gas Cheesy Cheesy and pay with spacecrypto coin Cheesy Cheesy you might get a full tank for 50 spacecrypto Cheesy Cheesy
then off you go zooming around space again Grin
Its just a thought but a plausible one  Grin


The size of the Aliens does not matter. Even the aliens the size of the microbes. If they have the right technology and intelligence I think they can build a dyson sphere.
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^ don't think there is any relation between the size of a planet and the size of life that can exist there. Aliens could be giants in a small planet or microbes in a giant planet too.

@Wilikon twilight zone? That was a great episode. And a great show.
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They wont be mega structures to giants..YES..GIANT ALIENS..
Not so far fetched to say they might of come from a planet 10 thousand times bigger than earth
and there species might be huge..
If you believe in the bible even that mentions giants also people reckon they have seen 2 mile space ships..
So to a giant that star might be tiny so they might use it as an energy source ..
and the mega structures could be like a petrol station you park up and fill your spaceship up with sun gas Cheesy Cheesy and pay with spacecrypto coin Cheesy Cheesy you might get a full tank for 50 spacecrypto Cheesy Cheesy
then off you go zooming around space again Grin
Its just a thought but a plausible one  Grin
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This whole article and its suggestions and conclusions are totally erroneous. They are based on a warped, inconclusive science of everything in the universe. For example. We don't even really have a clue as to how old the earth is. Carbon dating is false. From https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-is-the-earth/:
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The results from some radiometric dating methods completely undermine those from the other radiometric methods. One such example is carbon-14 (14C) dating. As long as an organism is alive, it takes in 14C and 12C from the atmosphere; however, when it dies, the carbon intake stops. Since 14C is radioactive (decays into 14N), the amount of 14C in a dead organism gets less and less over time. Carbon-14 dates are determined from the measured ratio of radioactive carbon-14 to normal carbon-12 (14C/12C). Used on samples that were once alive, such as wood or bone, the measured 14C/12C ratio is compared with the ratio in living things today.

Now, 14C has a derived half-life of 5,730 years, so the 14C in organic material supposedly 100,000 years old should all essentially have decayed into nitrogen.19 Some things, such as wood trapped in lava flows, said to be millions of years old by other radiometric dating methods, still have 14C in them.20 If the items were really millions of years old, then they shouldn’t have any traces of 14C. Coal and diamonds, which are found in or sandwiched between rock layers allegedly millions of years old, have been shown to have 14C ages of only tens of thousands of years.21 So which date, if any, is correct? The diamonds or coal can’t be millions of years old if they have any traces of 14C still in them. This shows that these dating methods are completely unreliable and indicates that the presumed assumptions in the methods are erroneous.

Similar kinds of problems are seen in the case of potassium-argon dating, which has been considered one of the most reliable methods. Dr. Andrew Snelling, a geologist, points out several of these problems with potassium-argon, as seen in table 7.22

These and other examples raise a critical question. If radiometric dating fails to give an accurate date on something of which we do know the true age, then how can it be trusted to give us the correct age for rocks that had no human observers to record when they formed? If the methods don’t work on rocks of known age, it is most unreasonable to trust that they work on rocks of unknown age. It is far more rational to trust the Word of the God who created the world, knows its history perfectly, and has revealed sufficient information in the Bible for us to understand that history and the age of the creation.

Once you straighten science out, separating the theory and myth from reality, then you might be able to make an accurate guess about distant alien megastructures. I don't mean that the guess would be accurate as to the truth. It would only be accurate regarding guessing.

To say it simply, the whole of science on which this all is based is highly inaccurate.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.
unfortunately, the uneducated and ignorant masses fear what they dont know, and would rather pour money into pointless wars and the pockets of lying politicians over the space program or beneficial government programs (social security).

given the backwards trend of society i dont expect much progress to be made on the space front until aliens contact us first.
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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.

... Space cuisine?

"How to serve men"

"It's a cook book!"

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.
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Man, I say it's high time we actually live one of those alien invasion movies, how fun would that be??  Watching it on TV just isn't getting my adrenaline pumping anymore Sad  (it used to when I was a kid)
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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.
One or several gas clouds could cause such a fluctuation, but they would have to be orbiting the star.
 
It isn't impossible.

Such a thing would be gravitationally unstable.

I'm not sure we have a way to know if the phenomena in question is "long or short lived."  If it is long lived, then energy is being put into the system to cause it to stand against gravity.  If it is short lived, then it will stop the 22-15% variations of it's own accord, after some thousands or millions of years.

"Long lived," with energy inputs, would basically mean artificial.  Next question is whether the doppler shifts have been measured.  That will tell the orbits of the orbiting masses.


Kepler was killed by shy aliens...


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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.
One or several gas clouds could cause such a fluctuation, but they would have to be orbiting the star.
 
It isn't impossible.

Such a thing would be gravitationally unstable.

I'm not sure we have a way to know if the phenomena in question is "long or short lived."  If it is long lived, then energy is being put into the system to cause it to stand against gravity.  If it is short lived, then it will stop the 22-15% variations of it's own accord, after some thousands or millions of years.

"Long lived," with energy inputs, would basically mean artificial.  Next question is whether the doppler shifts have been measured.  That will tell the orbits of the orbiting masses.
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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.

or a really big comet Smiley
they are talking about that this is a possible double star system where a second star is attracting comets from the oort cloud.

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

From what I understood from the article and didn't really understand about it, was how where they able to locate this sphere that completely surrounds a whole star?  Wouldn't that sphere just be "hidden" by the darkness of space, since within the inside would be the star? 

Honestly I'm just amazed how they were able to locate this thing from earth...

we would see radiation but (nearly) no outcoming light and that would point to something like a dyson sphere.
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I always wondered into what the universe is expanding INto... Is there a medium?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_okcNVZqqI


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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

From what I understood from the article and didn't really understand about it, was how where they able to locate this sphere that completely surrounds a whole star?  Wouldn't that sphere just be "hidden" by the darkness of space, since within the inside would be the star? 

Honestly I'm just amazed how they were able to locate this thing from earth...
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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.
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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.
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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.
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How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

mmm i must disagree, talking about numbers, if we really think that the universe is infinite, then there is infinite possibilities that there is "aliens" out there Smiley and the maths will never lie Tongue
except the universe is finite. that aside, as large as the universe is, the possibility of extraterrestrial life is there; we as humans havent even extensively searched or even been to another galaxy yet, much less another solar system. i for one think there's alien life out there.

There definitely may be extraterrestrial life, given the vastness of the universe.
Whether we will ever come in contact with extraterrestrial life at all, is another matter.
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We're in a giant submarine, those aren't stars and planets out there it's the ceiling. There's no space, it's distilled water we're floating in. The cuddle fish has you all mesmerized with their light show.


Air breathing life is an artificial freak show, the fish are laughing and entertained. Things like fire, snow, smoking, drinking, baked goods, cars. They can't get enough of the novelty and drama here.


“Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.”

― Plato
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

mmm i must disagree, talking about numbers, if we really think that the universe is infinite, then there is infinite possibilities that there is "aliens" out there Smiley and the maths will never lie Tongue
except the universe is finite. that aside, as large as the universe is, the possibility of extraterrestrial life is there; we as humans havent even extensively searched or even been to another galaxy yet, much less another solar system. i for one think there's alien life out there.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

mmm i must disagree, talking about numbers, if we really think that the universe is infinite, then there is infinite possibilities that there is "aliens" out there Smiley and the maths will never lie Tongue
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We're in a giant submarine, those aren't stars and planets out there it's the ceiling. There's no space, it's distilled water we're floating in. The cuddle fish has you all mesmerized with their light show.


Air breathing life is an artificial freak show, the fish are laughing and entertained. Things like fire, snow, smoking, drinking, baked goods, cars. They can't get enough of the novelty and drama here.
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Space infinite, is not universe its multiverse.
Not a fact, a belief.

Universe is finite.  Beyond that is not defined.

It is not a proven fact. The only finite is our instruments. We cannot see beyond that and we assume that is edge.
Your comment is in line with mine.  "Beyond that is not defined."

Your comment "Space infinite, is not universe its multiverse" is not a proven fact.

LOL somehow I think we might actually be in agrement...
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Space infinite, is not universe its multiverse.
Not a fact, a belief.

Universe is finite.  Beyond that is not defined.

It is not a proven fact. The only finite is our instruments. We cannot see beyond that and we assume that is edge.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.

Got it.  The government has huge underground salt mines, full of hundreds of thousands of demons. 

So you really think the government is hiding extraterrestrial life?
LOL... don't like my link?


That's as fantastic as Rapture Paloozi -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjT2KD9sovU


You're so silly. I forgot who I was talking to.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.

Got it.  The government has huge underground salt mines, full of hundreds of thousands of demons. 

So you really think the government is hiding extraterrestrial life?
LOL... don't like my link?


That's as fantastic as Rapture Paloozi -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjT2KD9sovU
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Space infinite, is not universe its multiverse.
Not a fact, a belief.

Universe is finite.  Beyond that is not defined.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.

Got it.  The government has huge underground salt mines, full of hundreds of thousands of demons. 

So you really think the government is hiding extraterrestrial life?
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Space infinite, is not universe its multiverse.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.

Got it.  The government has huge underground salt mines, full of hundreds of thousands of demons. 

And the demons are ruled over by Fallen Angels.

That's as fantastic as Rapture Paloozi -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjT2KD9sovU
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.


http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/687/does-jesus-refer-to-aliens-in-john-1016

http://www.arn.org/docs/williams/pw_christianityspaceandaliens.htm


And this is why NASA wants people to think there's an infinite universe out there, lol.

No they don't.

It's well understood the universe is finite in it's extents.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.


http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/687/does-jesus-refer-to-aliens-in-john-1016

http://www.arn.org/docs/williams/pw_christianityspaceandaliens.htm


And this is why NASA wants people to think there's an infinite universe out there, lol.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.


http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/687/does-jesus-refer-to-aliens-in-john-1016

http://www.arn.org/docs/williams/pw_christianityspaceandaliens.htm


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:^)

Reminds me of Calvin and Hobbes.
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for good reason too, what civilization would want to contact us when people like those in the  republican debate are the ones expected to be leading the country? Roll Eyes

There are no aliens on stars in milky way, no water, not a damn thing. The astronomers/ Nasa/ Space freaks were running dry, they weren't getting funded so they had to come up with something that get people's attention and this what they came up with and now they're going to start working on programmes to send more space crafts, build more advanced radios etc. etc. and they'll get paid to live a happy rich life for another 50 years or so. And then they'll find water/aliens on some other planet.
the universe is a pretty large place; i would say the possibility of extraterrestrial life existing somewhere out there is pretty high. finding the evidence that water once existed or exists on mars is a huge first step.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.

There aren't. If the government is hiding what they think is extraterrestrial life, it's fallen angels or demons pretending to be.
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

Why would they "fool" us into thinking that there is alien life out there?  It's either there is or there isn't, it's not really a matter of "faith" that there are extraterrestrials.

Plus the government has always came off to me as being shady, in hiding some info about extraterrestrials and whoever asks about it is called a nut.  If they do find alien life out in the Milky Way, or already have, then I would imagine that they would hide that shit so quick from the general public.
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The thing they should do is hop on a train, go out there, get the proof, and report back to us at once.

 Grin
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Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.
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There are no aliens on stars in milky way, no water, not a damn thing. The astronomers/ Nasa/ Space freaks were running dry, they weren't getting funded so they had to come up with something that get people's attention and this what they came up with and now they're going to start working on programmes to send more space crafts, build more advanced radios etc. etc. and they'll get paid to live a happy rich life for another 50 years or so. And then they'll find water/aliens on some other planet.
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Reminds me of Calvin and Hobbes.
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Hi all,

I do not “sell” anything, and I do not care what you think or believe...
I would just like to inform you that I have posted about this subject at the link below,
and I wish for all to be aware of some books published about these topics;
in one of these books (Journals), it is stated:

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there are "aliens" among you, under the ground, around you, and working with some of the elders of every government you serve. Whose side are "they" on? Well, it depends on which side YOU are on

and in another Journal:

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I guess I should say that I have a bit more healthy respect for the man [Carl Sagan] now than when I began this article. The thing that is hidden from you--is that the whole of the "hallucinations" is orchestrated.

As a witness to the "facts", I can tell you without hesitation that abductions HAVE HAPPENED. They are not, however, little aliens from out of space--they are from little aliens RIGHT ON YOUR PLANET. The stage is set and then anyone can be caused to see and experience anything that the World Controllers wish you to see and experience.

Indeed there are veritable armies of little gray clones along with some pretty formidable looking "reptilian" hybrids. This is not from outer space, however, it usually happens that they come right from Area 51 in Nevada or Northrop facilities near Palmdale, California and thus and so. No self-respecting outer space alien would get in the middle of this ridiculous game-playing. There is a massive number of aliens out here in the "spaces" and throughout the cosmos--but out here YOU are the ALIENS! NOT US.

This whole scenario of UFOs and aliens is accomplishing exactly that which is planned--programming you right into a one world order with a massive one military force objective. The EVIL is already locked onto your place and within your atmosphere--you can't really get off your planet for any distance to speak of and you must always go back to your orb for survival.

I do enjoy the "failure to find valid life in space" about as ridiculous as idiots dare to project. They put up "space monitoring stations" to pump in pulse waves at you fantasy-eyed citizens while they are doing you in and calling it scientific research for aliens. Ah, if you could but see and experience the WONDERS of the cosmos instead of being stupefied by these false speakers. God rules the wondrous universe of the cosmos--evil rules the physical planes of expression--what a sad commentary for humankind.

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^ It would be amazing, no doubt about it. But I don't believe a radio dish would be much use for that. Wouldn't an advanced civilization capable of building structures of that size probably have better means of communication as well?

ps. the article says "The three astronomers want to point a radio dish at the star to look for wavelengths associated with technological civilizations." So not use exactly, maybe just emitted because of any activity they may have going on there.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

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A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.
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