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Yeah, when the time comes and Bitcoin starts becoming of no use, I'll remember especially its first times and the peak times of Bitcoin and be proud for seeing those times. It's hard to predict the time Bitcoin will be in a situation like that. Of course, I wouldn't like to see Bitcoin in such condition.

If Bitcoin goes bad in the future, I never regret knowing Bitcoin. Because I am grateful to be able to experience owning and using Bitcoin, I will never
forget how Bitcoin has made my economy better. After getting to know Bitcoin I also became more patient, because I am used to dealing with
volatile crypto markets. For now my best memory is when Bitcoin managed to rise above the $60k price, I'm really happy and it seems that a lot of
people were surprised by the achievement of Bitcoin. But I believe Bitcoin in the future will still be useful and still exist, therefore I never hesitate to
invest long term in Bitcoin

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While this is great there are many differences between individuals, not all people have the same intelligence. Not everyone can pave the way for achieving their goals some achieve success and some later at risk that is why we have to learn first the great Nobel laureates and those who have thwarted success are not disappointed they correct the mistake and move forward. The goal of life must be right and the plan must proceed.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

But most of us won't be people who are remembered and written about, like Satoshi, Craig Wright, etc.

Nor do I think we need to be, and as far as doing something remarkable with our lives, I like to think that I do small but remarkable things at my job that, if they don't exactly change millions of people's lives, at least help people on an individual level. The way I see it, I could be doing much worse with my lot in life, and I was never looking for fame and fortune anyway so I'm not disappointed.

Paxmao, you're correct that people like you mentioned are rare. You can aspire to be a Nobel Prize winner and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you set your expectations that high you're bound to be a more frustrated and angry person as time goes on. Notice I didn't say that one shouldn't work toward such a goal, just that your expectations should be much lower (if you want to be happy, at least).

It is right for a person to have ideals, but one cannot force it. After all, everyone's IQ is different. Because of the difference above, God's mission to us is also different. As ourselves, enjoy every day of life and continuously improve our happiness index. As a Bitcoin holder, it is enough to organize to promote Bitcoin to more people and gain more knowledge through forums to help more people.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

Ya, Even if I don't get to do what I love, no freedom to choose, passion or boring job, I would probably continue to do that damn job if I didn't happen to know bitcoin/crypto . It is definitely a big day that in this life I will never forget! Where I have everything - this space. That's what it means

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Quote from: Obito on July 13, 2021, 08:02:42 AM

Why worry that it fades away? Long as people are working on it and the people are using it, bitcoin won't fade. Plus it's not something that we should worry about because the moment that it fades, most people in this forum are all probably dead or too old to even use their own bitcoins wisely. It's indeed great but we don't have to worry too much about it.

Enjoy what we currently have and think of those things when it already there to happened, why bothered but instead keep believing
that there are still lots to offer.

More on the fact that since there's still development and there are still lots of people who are starting to engage, the benefits still
there to continue.

Everything will come to an end for all those things who created no value by now but for bitcoin, probably it will live longer because of its great value. And since people are now acknowledging and starting to embrace bitcoin, then it will never fade easily just like other innovations.

Its better to think its positive effects to the people so it will be better to enjoy it while it is still here. There are more rooms for bitcoin to grow and definitely, more developments to happen in the following months and years. So lets just enjoy and see where will it take us.

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Quote from: wahyu wida on July 14, 2021, 08:46:51 AM

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Quote from: Obito on July 13, 2021, 08:02:42 AM

Why worry that it fades away? Long as people are working on it and the people are using it, bitcoin won't fade. Plus it's not something that we should worry about because the moment that it fades, most people in this forum are all probably dead or too old to even use their own bitcoins wisely. It's indeed great but we don't have to worry too much about it.

I agree, as long as people work on and for Bitcoin, it will be around! And I still think all this is just a beginning, when you think about it, Bitcoin and crypto are around for just a little over 10 years, and it's not like we conquered the world, there's still a lot of space for growing, a lot more people/companies who can/will get more involved...

It was a great ride until this moment, and I believe that ride is far from over! We have seen new heights, now a little step or two back (in terms of price), but sooner or later we will see a new rise and I am sure we will see new heights!

with the moment that happened at the beginning of this year, it makes us optimistic to look at the future. with the new bullrun and ath that happened yesterday, making more and more people adopt bitcoin, of course they are from various backgrounds, even big companies are starting to use bitcoin, even though it is practical as an investment tool, but at least this year's development is very meaningful

Cant deny but having these times could really give out that kind of morale boost that we are really on the right path on dealing up with this thing and thinking out way more even positive on future years to come.

Basing off on whats currently happening and just looking into the demand then you can say at least that it is really something that might last up on years to come or even more.

Yeah,the given experience is really something which cant really be forgotten basing off on how great this invention is made up by Satoshi which did really changed up the whole thing in terms of payment system.

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Quote from: wahyu wida on July 14, 2021, 08:46:51 AM

with the moment that happened at the beginning of this year, it makes us optimistic to look at the future. with the new bullrun and ath that happened yesterday, making more and more people adopt bitcoin, of course they are from various backgrounds, even big companies are starting to use bitcoin, even though it is practical as an investment tool, but at least this year's development is very meaningful

I believe all of you are right but just understand the logic: "even if" it drops and fade always we would be happy to be involved. That is why I think we should be very grateful about what is going on right now currently and that is why we should be happy that we are involved and I do agree that we should not be worried about the situation right now, as long as it looks like this year we should be happy about it, and even after that I still think that we should be very happy about the current situation and not be upset if it drops like crazy.

I personally believe that we should be feeling thankful for being in participating in bitcoin when very rare people know about it. I am very happy for one and I can tell you that we should not be focusing on what bad could happen, because when we talk about all the bad stuff then eventually we spread it to the world.

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Quote from: iv4n on July 14, 2021, 07:32:56 AM

Quote from: Obito on July 13, 2021, 08:02:42 AM

Why worry that it fades away? Long as people are working on it and the people are using it, bitcoin won't fade. Plus it's not something that we should worry about because the moment that it fades, most people in this forum are all probably dead or too old to even use their own bitcoins wisely. It's indeed great but we don't have to worry too much about it.

I agree, as long as people work on and for Bitcoin, it will be around! And I still think all this is just a beginning, when you think about it, Bitcoin and crypto are around for just a little over 10 years, and it's not like we conquered the world, there's still a lot of space for growing, a lot more people/companies who can/will get more involved...

It was a great ride until this moment, and I believe that ride is far from over! We have seen new heights, now a little step or two back (in terms of price), but sooner or later we will see a new rise and I am sure we will see new heights!

with the moment that happened at the beginning of this year, it makes us optimistic to look at the future. with the new bullrun and ath that happened yesterday, making more and more people adopt bitcoin, of course they are from various backgrounds, even big companies are starting to use bitcoin, even though it is practical as an investment tool, but at least this year's development is very meaningful

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Simply owning a currency or a financial asset has nothing to do with greatness or being great. Grin

Glorifying Bitcoin or the blockchain technology seems kinda wrong to me.At the end of the day,this is just a technology.Every technology just comes and goes.The telegraph was a big deal in the XIX century,but now we are using smartphones and computers.Bitcoin might be replaced by something better in the next 10,20 years.This might be some altcoin or it might be Bitcoin 2.0.The blockchain technology might also be replaced by a better technology.We shouldn't put a technology on a pedestal.

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Quote from: Obito on July 13, 2021, 08:02:42 AM

Why worry that it fades away? Long as people are working on it and the people are using it, bitcoin won't fade. Plus it's not something that we should worry about because the moment that it fades, most people in this forum are all probably dead or too old to even use their own bitcoins wisely. It's indeed great but we don't have to worry too much about it.

I agree, as long as people work on and for Bitcoin, it will be around! And I still think all this is just a beginning, when you think about it, Bitcoin and crypto are around for just a little over 10 years, and it's not like we conquered the world, there's still a lot of space for growing, a lot more people/companies who can/will get more involved...

It was a great ride until this moment, and I believe that ride is far from over! We have seen new heights, now a little step or two back (in terms of price), but sooner or later we will see a new rise and I am sure we will see new heights!

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Why worry that it fades away? Long as people are working on it and the people are using it, bitcoin won't fade. Plus it's not something that we should worry about because the moment that it fades, most people in this forum are all probably dead or too old to even use their own bitcoins wisely. It's indeed great but we don't have to worry too much about it.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

Nothing do last forever but at least on what Bitcoin did really give out is truly remarkable and cant really be forgotten even though it would neither be replaced or not in the future but its impossible for the community to forget on where they had stepped their foot in and even though experience isnt great when you do lost money but the benefits in terms of payment system is do what matter most.

Yes, it is something great and did really make out a big change when it comes to payment system where totally opposes heavy centralization made by government

but honestly i wont be stressing out myself on thinking that this would be over because it might last forever imho.

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The greatest thing to ever happen to me is knowing what crypto really means to a common man and long term investors. I have learned to be patient when it comes to decisions and I learnt that from holding Cryptocurrencies.
I have made some cool money from it and loose some but that all came with a great lesson that will hardly be repeated in the future.
I just love bitcoin and it's underlying technology and lastly the meme coins, they are fun to watch. Tongue

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I agree with OP, I do not agree that bitcoin may end one day I am sure that it will go on for as long as I am alive (may end after few centuries of course) because it is open to innovation so if there is a new innovation in the world blockchain tech could adopt to that and crypto will evolve with the world.

However just to assume that bitcoin and all other cryptos are suddenly zero 20 years later, it grew smaller and smaller and became worthless, I would still be happy that I was here, it literally changed my life I can't explain how much I am proud to be here and making money here and living here because it allowed me to live the life I always wanted. Many friends are telling me how "easy" my job is not only because how much I make or don't make but because how I am doing whatever I want and that is something not many people can find in their lives.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 12, 2021, 05:00:54 AM

You are forgetting about something: mindsets, psychology, philosophy and culture. Even if the "experiment" that is bitcoin fails in economic terms, you have made millions of people more conscious of how money works, what is happening with their fiat reserves and how is actually possible to free yourself from being played with.

Another historic example - many railways went bankrupt, yet we still have them and we still use railways as a means of transport. It was the first time people of moderate means could actually leave their surroundings at a cheap price and discover that there was something else in the world apart from their villages. That changed culture (people of modest means did not vacation before) and made people more free. That is my point, this changes everything regardless of the economic incentives.

That is the thing about crypto, there is no coming back from it. I do not care if quantum computing starts breaking up every single crypto apart and making them worth zero, it is not something that I would care, why? Because I know that people are aware that we need OUR money, and that is what will help us.

A regular citizen of USA doesn't have anything in common with the richest of USA, but they do have a lot of in common with the other Citizens of European countries for example, whereas European citizens have nothing in common with the elites of the European world, but they have with regular American, meanwhile USA and Europe elites and wealthy are practically the same thing.

So long story short we now that Dollar will not save me, no matter how much I have, euro won't, pound won't, ruble won't, yuan won't nothing will be saving me because those are government money and they only work to make the rich richer and powerful more powerful. So what we need is crypto in idea, it could be bitcoin it could be coinbit who cares what the name is, one day bitcoin may die but something else will come up because we now know that we need it.

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If the time has come that Bitcoin have already faded away all of its traces, usage, importance and everything related to it, people that have experience fruitfulness at the time it have grown and became that very useful and popular will still be proud to say that they at least have experience the great fullness that Bitcoin and all cryptocurrency have provide to mankind and those will still be treasured into their memories for a long period of time. What the important thing to be done by this moment is to just enjoy and cherish every moment we have with Bitcoin before such time will come that it will turn out to be a strange thing in the future that have existed just in the past and will not be experience by the future generation.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

I'll be honest, based on my surroundings I don't think Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies have been able to make that big an impact on the "payments system". Yes the level of adoption has increased, a lot of people know about bitcoin and invest in cryptocurrencies now and they have become a big market for hedgers, arbitrageurs, traders, and Investors but at the same time in the payment stream, except for EL Salvador there is nothing we can boast a lot about at this point of time. But yes the technology of blockchain is really something that has changed our lives forever.

You are forgetting about something: mindsets, psychology, philosophy and culture. Even if the "experiment" that is bitcoin fails in economic terms, you have made millions of people more conscious of how money works, what is happening with their fiat reserves and how is actually possible to free yourself from being played with.

Another historic example - many railways went bankrupt, yet we still have them and we still use railways as a means of transport. It was the first time people of moderate means could actually leave their surroundings at a cheap price and discover that there was something else in the world apart from their villages. That changed culture (people of modest means did not vacation before) and made people more free. That is my point, this changes everything regardless of the economic incentives.

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Some people were destined to become an extra ordinary and remarkable even years has passed. But anyone can do something that will leave an impact to one individual's life and that would be enough.

Thinking about the future and what can happen to bitcoin after a decade doesnt give me worries, whats important to me is the current situation (since I dont know how long im going to live). Im fortunate to know bitcoin and enjoying the pros of engaging myself that some people cant see. Bitcoin is something great and im proud that I had the chance to become part of it.

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Quote from: swiftbits on July 11, 2021, 10:17:13 AM

Being part of this technological era is such a blessing; most of the information is at the tip of our hands.
Bitcoin is one of the most innovative when it comes to financing cause it gives us freedom.
If ever the time comes where Bitcoin no longer exists, the influence will stay forever.

its decentralized system really makes us realize that freedom is not a dream. no more complicated administrative requirements, it only takes minutes to send cryptocurrency anywhere in the world without limits. I am very happy to be a part of this evolution. it does require a long process, with various pros and cons, even if one day bitcoin or cryptocurrency does not develop as expected, at least I am happy and proud to have felt this convenience and innovation.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

I'll be honest, based on my surroundings I don't think Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies have been able to make that big an impact on the "payments system". Yes the level of adoption has increased, a lot of people know about bitcoin and invest in cryptocurrencies now and they have become a big market for hedgers, arbitrageurs, traders, and Investors but at the same time in the payment stream, except for EL Salvador there is nothing we can boast a lot about at this point of time. But yes the technology of blockchain is really something that has changed our lives forever.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

--snip-- Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

There there.

I don't know what is triggering your existential crisis but I find it very defeatist to think that you can just sigh away on a future thinking" I was there". The premise that Bitcoin will fade in coming years is something that those at this forum shouldn't accept in any scenario. The biggest tech companies are already deciding how an average human's life plays out. The banks are already deciding that they'll track your expenses and incomes from life till birth with CBDCs. The only thing that gives you an option is this decentralized network of peers called Bitcoin.

If it ever comes to the stage that it is fading, I think the renaissance moment for everyone on this forum will be to take a stand for liberty and run a full node and a miner..

I mean the price of Bitcoin doesn't have to be 100K for the network to continue and survive. The developments can always continue and we can always have Bitcoin.

So stop being so gloomy buddy, you may still have your moment in the sun.

Just on the CDBC thing, and a bit out of topic, why do we even relate CDBC with bitcoin? Apart from the technology, I don't think they will provide any level of decentralization to the users. Infact it will just make the governments more into what we are doing in our daily lives.

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I do feel like not only that we can also say that, "we were the part of the revolution that made the corruption disappear". I do believe that bitcoins as a whole will be able to help a lot of people not just the ones involve. I do feel like that we have an opportunity to change the whole government system and how it works. People can be more involved in their decisions at the same time they would be able to decide what to do with their own currency and where to invest. I do believe that even if we take it as an experiment, it was a successful one therefore we can tell our ages to come about how a decentralized system changed the whole world.

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Everything could actually fade no matter how hard you do to make remarkable things. As for me, we don't have to stress ourselves out just to do things that will remain memorable. As long as we're living our lives right, we don't have to create perfect history. We should just grab the opportunities that crypto could offer rather than thinking of negative thoughts that could happen in the future.

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Quote from: just_Alice on July 09, 2021, 06:15:19 PM

You are right to compare the cryptocurrency world with revolution, because that's what this is, only not violent, but peaceful, yet not meaningless. Come to think of it, what happened is remarkable.

Everything started just some 12 years ago and it all began as a joke, as something interesting and original, and now Bitcoin had gained such a great impact that it is constantly discussed on the governmental level, many are afraid and see it as a treat, everyone takes this matter seriously now.

It is a new history indeed, and all of us contributed to that. No matter how much you buy Bitcoin and how often do you use it, just being a part of this world already makes a big difference.

Bitcoin was never started as or intended to be a joke. It was a response to massive government bailouts of banks and quantitative easing that "Satoshi" (whoever he/they are) thought would devalue fiat currencies, as evidenced by the headline he coded into the genesis block. It was always very much intended to be a revolution.

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Being part of this technological era is such a blessing; most of the information is at the tip of our hands.
Bitcoin is one of the most innovative when it comes to financing cause it gives us freedom.
If ever the time comes where Bitcoin no longer exists, the influence will stay forever.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

As long as you know in yourself that you didn't waste the opportunity of knowing and learning about bitcoin and other crypto, there's nothing you should regret about. Not unless you gave up midway and ended up witnessing how crypto became successful after a long while of dumping. In life, you do not get too many chances or opportunity of having something that helps you big time so once you had the chance to cherish and nurture from it, grab it and don't let it slip away your hand. Regrets are always at the end so pay attention with your decision making in the present.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 10, 2021, 01:15:35 PM

Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

I can say that I was part of history when "people" took back some control over their wealth. Satoshi Nakamoto the big disruptor, lived in my time and Satoshi created one of the most significant experiments in the financial history of man. (Giving the ability to print money to the people)

I was also around when Banks shivered and governments sat up and took notice, when super rich people mocked Bitcoin and Crypto currencies laughed in their faces. Grin

but now those who have never paid attention to bitcoin, can see that bitcoin can't even be stopped by the government. until in the end bitcoin is equivalent to stock investments that have more unique characteristics. even during the covid pandemic, bitcoin became the prima donna in making money with fantastic developments

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Quote from: amishmanish on July 10, 2021, 04:57:08 AM

Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

--snip-- Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

There there.

I don't know what is triggering your existential crisis but I find it very defeatist to think that you can just sigh away on a future thinking" I was there". The premise that Bitcoin will fade in coming years is something that those at this forum shouldn't accept in any scenario. The biggest tech companies are already deciding how an average human's life plays out. The banks are already deciding that they'll track your expenses and incomes from life till birth with CBDCs. The only thing that gives you an option is this decentralized network of peers called Bitcoin.

If it ever comes to the stage that it is fading, I think the renaissance moment for everyone on this forum will be to take a stand for liberty and run a full node and a miner..

I mean the price of Bitcoin doesn't have to be 100K for the network to continue and survive. The developments can always continue and we can always have Bitcoin.

So stop being so gloomy buddy, you may still have your moment in the sun.

Not an existential crisis at all, just the knowledge that existence is finite and that it is nice to know that somehow mine contributed to the future of humanity even if was an atom size contribution. I am aware that most people do not think in those terms and that many will focus their answers in the hypothesis (not the premise at all) that bitcoin could cease or become irrelevant - which is not at all the topic - but I am not writing for them.

I am not being gloomy, it is exactly the opposite, I am happy that ... I am here doing this, and I am happy whether I personally get richer or everything fades. Some answers to the post lead me to think that some people do get the point, others don´t.

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that is why we should be not afraid to invest and to loose because if all fails at least we can say that we help and we are a part of a movement that change the financial system .
we wil have a story to tell to our kids if in the future if there will be no more bitcoins .

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why will we wait for that moment ? but thats people .
we only realize how important a thing when theres no more .

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

I can say that I was part of history when "people" took back some control over their wealth. Satoshi Nakamoto the big disruptor, lived in my time and Satoshi created one of the most significant experiments in the financial history of man. (Giving the ability to print money to the people)

I was also around when Banks shivered and governments sat up and took notice, when super rich people mocked Bitcoin and Crypto currencies laughed in their faces. Grin

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

What is interesting: practically all the great inventions of mankind in the past and even partially in the future are known to us from a wide variety of sources, including the works of science fiction writers, which surprisingly come true with amazing accuracy. However, we do not find any information about digital money that would be a significant event in the global financial system. We find traces of the use of nuclear weapons many millennia ago, space battles of earthlings in near-earth space about 12 thousand years ago, but we do not find anything either in the past or in the future about a special form of digital money.
Both science fiction writers and today's astrologers predict the destruction of states and that the world will be ruled by large corporations. For cryptocurrency, this is both a huge chance for development and complete oblivion if such corporations sharply oppose it.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

If this will happen then at least I'm one of the few million people here in the world who got the experience to trade, hold, buy, sell, transfer one of the most revolutionary currencies that has ever created in our planet

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Just involving myself into crypto makes me happy. Earning from it makes me lucky and changing my life with the help of crypto makes me one of the luckiest person in the world (unfortunately I'm not in that position at this moment).

I started into crypto 2017. Kinda late if you will ask me but at that time, I just graduated from the tertiary level and I just want to earn money online while watching our business. I can say that I'm lucky that I learned crypto even though its kinda late. I will be happy to share my experience to the other generations and other people after 10 years or 20 years

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

Indeed I strongly agree with you for what so ever the fate might be it would be something to reckon on to have been a part of an innovation that had the ability to create a new approach to the financial system even if it fails due to unforeseen challenges I think ever investor should be proud the began the process and saw it till it current state. But I see future adoption of Bitcoin in near future which would still be a plus to us all

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Yeah, I will feel myself really proud when that day comes. Bitcoin has changed many people's lives and it continues to do so. It helped new jobs emerge and people have started those jobs thanks to Bitcoin. We have Bitcoin as a payment option in some places and the number of those places continues to increase. I'll remember Bitcoin mostly good when it starts dying. I say "mostly" because it actually depends on Bitcoin to solve scalability problems. Grin

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 08, 2021, 07:20:31 AM

I do not have to say that because I have more important things to do, making my family secure and living happy. I do not think that making me feel something will make me feel something, but taking part inside the bitcoin world gives me a chance to do something for my life. If we can feel that, there are no words that can impress and we can only say that to ourselves, not to other people, because they can agree or disagree with what we say.

I think there is still an impressive sense of its own, however taking part in the world of bitcoin is like a new thing to do, not like working normally in the real world, of course this can be a story in itself or one of the interesting new avenues that can push our knowledge up to date. Share with family and other people too, so they know that bitcoin is one of the great things that can grow rapidly and provide many opportunities to boost finances till can make families happy.

I already share with family and other people but not many of them have a bitcoin interest. But maybe when people can have money from bitcoin, they will impress and see that it is real because many people who do not join in bitcoin still think that bitcoin is not real.

But for all people involved in bitcoin from a long time ago, they are very impressed with bitcoin and still want to have more bitcoin and that is why they still work hard to achieve that thing.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

In fact, if the Bitcoin network is no longer useful, you will not be able to say "I changed the world".
Of course, I'm glad that I have been in this community for several years and that I am a witness of how the world's financial system is changing thanks to cryptocurrencies.
I am aware of the threats to Bitcoin (such as quantum computers, for example), but I strongly believe that this "experiment" will succeed and that banksters will have to go on the defensive.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

--snip-- Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

There there.

I don't know what is triggering your existential crisis but I find it very defeatist to think that you can just sigh away on a future thinking" I was there". The premise that Bitcoin will fade in coming years is something that those at this forum shouldn't accept in any scenario. The biggest tech companies are already deciding how an average human's life plays out. The banks are already deciding that they'll track your expenses and incomes from life till birth with CBDCs. The only thing that gives you an option is this decentralized network of peers called Bitcoin.

If it ever comes to the stage that it is fading, I think the renaissance moment for everyone on this forum will be to take a stand for liberty and run a full node and a miner..

I mean the price of Bitcoin doesn't have to be 100K for the network to continue and survive. The developments can always continue and we can always have Bitcoin.

So stop being so gloomy buddy, you may still have your moment in the sun.

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I was one of the early adopters of Bitcoin, signed up on the forum in 2014, and owned some BTC which was acquired by faucets. A few years later, I started mining and made a decent profit. Unfortunately, most of the BTC I had acquired back then doesn't exist or was sold, but I'm happy that I faced Bitcoin during its early days.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 08, 2021, 07:20:31 AM

I do not have to say that because I have more important things to do, making my family secure and living happy. I do not think that making me feel something will make me feel something, but taking part inside the bitcoin world gives me a chance to do something for my life. If we can feel that, there are no words that can impress and we can only say that to ourselves, not to other people, because they can agree or disagree with what we say.

I think there is still an impressive sense of its own, however taking part in the world of bitcoin is like a new thing to do, not like working normally in the real world, of course this can be a story in itself or one of the interesting new avenues that can push our knowledge up to date. Share with family and other people too, so they know that bitcoin is one of the great things that can grow rapidly and provide many opportunities to boost finances till can make families happy.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

I am accustomed to thinking about and investing in some projects rationally. When I first met Bitcoin and knew how it works, I knew that we would definitely have a story, because my investment idea is to invest in the future of Bitcoin. Of course I don't invest all my belongings in Bitcoin, but I don't want to wait for Bitcoin to be successful, but I am an outsider.

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Quote from: cabron on July 09, 2021, 06:35:45 PM

And if Bitcoin becomes world currency reserve as well, you can say that I was part of its revolution. Either way, it's good that we have our eyes open to seeing the world differently when it comes to currencies that we never learned in school. If Bitcoin will also fail, we are also part of it.

I'm seeing it hard to fail actually when the big countries are already taking part in the system. It's going to continue or at least with the use of blockchain.

if bitcoin fails or experiences setbacks, but the system that adopts the technology will be different from bitcoin because of the many improvements and new systems that not only look as a currency but rather on the benefits and needs of the current economic ecosystem, so blockchain will appear that will run with the growth of society world, if all else fails we are never disappointed instead we are proud because we have been part of the story that became history in the world

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And if Bitcoin becomes world currency reserve as well, you can say that I was part of its revolution. Either way, it's good that we have our eyes open to seeing the world differently when it comes to currencies that we never learned in school. If Bitcoin will also fail, we are also part of it.

I'm seeing it hard to fail actually when the big countries are already taking part in the system. It's going to continue or at least with the use of blockchain.

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You are right to compare the cryptocurrency world with revolution, because that's what this is, only not violent, but peaceful, yet not meaningless. Come to think of it, what happened is remarkable.

Everything started just some 12 years ago and it all began as a joke, as something interesting and original, and now Bitcoin had gained such a great impact that it is constantly discussed on the governmental level, many are afraid and see it as a treat, everyone takes this matter seriously now.

It is a new history indeed, and all of us contributed to that. No matter how much you buy Bitcoin and how often do you use it, just being a part of this world already makes a big difference.

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Yeah, like it was I've been there and part of that revolution that has changed the world but suddenly there's a bigger and more powerful force that has to stop or replace it.

But that's just an if and bitcoin is here to stay. So if the time comes and bitcoin doesn't have any interruption and you've finally sold everything you hold, it's also the time that you'll say the same.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

Can't say I agree. If bitcoin busts or the network became unusable, then it will just be a failed idea like so many others. The only thing great about it is that it actually works as a trustless decentralized medium of exchange. Once that's gone, there's nothing left, and having a small period of time of relevancy is not enough to make it great in retrospect. It has to work and it has to work forever, otherwise it's nothing.

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You don't have to be remarkable to many and be famous just to say that you did it, any form of help is a remarkable thing even though it's on only small number of people. I don't think that bitcoin is going to go away anytime soon, it's not like people are losing interest with bitcoin and no matter, it is still remarkable thing.

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I think that many generations who have witnessed an event can say the same thing. "Yes, I saw it, and it was great!" We are making history today, just as history itself makes us new.
Digitalization has become popular in the 21st century, could our ancestors have thought of something like that? And our children and grandchildren will probably look a little differently at what inspires us today.
But there is a good saying that says "Times do not choose, they live and die" Today we are building a society of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, and what will happen after that time itself will show.

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I feel like BTC governs my emotions, it attaches and makes me feel indispensable, and almost every time I look at BTC assets, I feel something wonderful. especially every time BTC goes up a green hope is really great above awesome.

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That's nice to read about.
Most people right now will just remember you when they see Bitcoin spike. Grin

Asking if you are still into Bitcoin or not. Then they will try to be nice again and borrow some money.
Yes, I know, while you are reading this you have thought of your friend that still has an existing loan from you.

Kidding aside, I like to think that way. I am there, I still have the proof, I have my Bitcoins in my stash and if it doesn't have a value anymore then so be it. I am happy I once supported something that made me a better person right now and made me change how to see things in the financial industry. That should be enough reason.

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I usually downplay the impact of my actions that others usually praise. But being a part of bitcoin--or rather owning even just a small sum of it today--is already an achievement on its own. Not a lot of people wanted to be a part of bitcoin or own it this early, albeit being surrounded by large entities grabbing each bitcoin that they can. There's still a lot of negative things people connect to bitcoin even up to this day, which sways a lot of the public's interest away from the cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

We can do this only for our personal satisfaction but if you are standing with the bitcoin until it lasts then no one is going to remember us since no one actually knows who are the person didn't sell when the prices are falling, a common man who think bitcoin as an investment will cashout but there are lot of people who believes bitcoin is going to be the future will withstand.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

It's a realistic option, and you should never run away from it, but if the whole thing collapses because people suddenly stop supporting Bitcoin - then we can reasonably wonder if we can be proud to have been a part of something that isn't succeeded? Furthermore, the question arises whether this failure has changed the world in any positive way, because failure would be a sign that people have decided to remain slaves of the current system and literally say "Bitcoin is unnecessary and complicated - I love my plastic card and my PIN".

I'm not saying we'll make it, Satoshi didn't say it would happen, but I'm sure we won't keep Bitcoin on the road to success if we think success isn't possible - the only strength we have is in numbers, and when people realize how powerful they are united, maybe then we really make some changes that will be remembered for a long time to come.

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Even more so when this industry flourishes more and takes the norm by storm, completely changing the way the world works from money management to asset management and so much more. Like nowadays when ownership of music, art pieces, movies or anything art related along with game items credits etc., can be further digitalized and secured through the several blockchains due to the collaboration of several industries to this one! Imagine being part of the earliest people who helped make these limitless possibilities slowly come into fruition! What a great achievement to brag about to your grand children as you play virtual reality games with them, lol. Grin

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Quote from: paxmao on July 08, 2021, 05:10:05 AM

And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

But most of us won't be people who are remembered and written about, like Satoshi, Craig Wright, etc.

Nor do I think we need to be, and as far as doing something remarkable with our lives, I like to think that I do small but remarkable things at my job that, if they don't exactly change millions of people's lives, at least help people on an individual level. The way I see it, I could be doing much worse with my lot in life, and I was never looking for fame and fortune anyway so I'm not disappointed.

Paxmao, you're correct that people like you mentioned are rare. You can aspire to be a Nobel Prize winner and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you set your expectations that high you're bound to be a more frustrated and angry person as time goes on. Notice I didn't say that one shouldn't work toward such a goal, just that your expectations should be much lower (if you want to be happy, at least).

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I do not think bitcoin will ever fade anytime soon atleast while I'm still living. Seeing as how great the changes happened in bitcoin over the years when I researched about it, I am amazed and disappointed at why I did not get myself learn about bitcoin soon enough. If I ediscovered this atleast 3 years ago, I'd be ready for a retirement by now.

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I do not have to say that because I have more important things to do, making my family secure and living happy. I do not think that making me feel something will make me feel something, but taking part inside the bitcoin world gives me a chance to do something for my life. If we can feel that, there are no words that can impress and we can only say that to ourselves, not to other people, because they can agree or disagree with what we say.

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Will likely fade away in places where centralized forces have full control over, and that will depend on whether Bitcoin has been completely centralized by them. In 5 years time the world will have an entirely new kind of government/system that has more control over the world.
It is also very likely that Bitcoin will continue to exist in its decentralized form in free places that haven't been taken over by the New World System

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Well, if there's an alien 👽 invasion that's disrupts the cryptocurrency world and humans are no longer able to trade, invest or carryout business transactions with them, I'd be grateful that I was part of this community. It would be something great that I learned and contributed to discussion on bitcoin, blockchain technology and cryptocurrency.

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You don't have to do something big just to be remarkable, if that's your goal then you aren't trying to do good, you want people to stroke your ego. There are a lot of ways to be remarkable and it doesn't have to be to a lot of people, smile always, you never know if it can lighten someone's day, say thank you to retail and restaurant workers because they don't get enough of it, buy someone a meal for their day, help people in different ways. Those things can be a way to be remarkable.

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Most people in the world do not get the chance of doing anything remarkable in their lives. Many may do things that are significant for them, but usually, chances of doing something that will change humanity, its culture and its way of thinking are remote. People involved in the French Revolution, artists in the Renaissance, philosophers in ancient Athens, ... they did things that left the world changed.

Most of us have some bitcoin. A few have a lot of bitcoin. Just think that for any reason, in 5 years or 10 years, something happened that dropped bitcoin value or made the network unusable or whatever event or combination of events made it impossible to use it any longer. As far as I am concerned, I can say "I was there and, at least, it was something great and I was part of it". When bitcoin fades, the way people think about currency, self-governance, trust in a system will have changed forever. And you will have been part of it and be able to say "I did something great and it changed the world".

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