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Topic: Attn: Owner of 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 (Read 2905 times)

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If the owner of the wrong address cannot be identified, lost the private key that was generated with the address, is dead or not willing to return the money, then the bitcoins are lost forever.

If the owner is not willing to return the money, the bitcoins are not lost

In this particular case, no bitcoins are lost  Wink
hero member
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Wow that was big amount. And it was transferred to another address.
newbie
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wow!
need to be extra careful
legendary
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I don't get it (im quite new here, sorry), if you send the bitcoin to a address that is non exist, wont it give you back the bitcoin like how money in bank works?

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

First, you need to distinguish between a technically invalid (like mistyped) address, and a technically valid, but wrong address:

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Bitcoin addresses are case-sensitive. Bitcoin addresses should be copied and pasted using the computer's clipboard wherever possible. If you hand-key a Bitcoin address, and each character is not transcribed exactly - including capitalization - the incorrect address will most likely be rejected by the Bitcoin software. You will have to check your entry and try again.
The probability that a mistyped address is accepted as being valid is 1 in 2^32, that is, approximately 1 in 4.29 billion.

You can learn more from the original page on the Bitcoin Wiki (bitcoin.it)

So Bitcoin addresses come with some built-in validation mechanism that allows your Bitcoin wallet to reject technically invalid addresses. OP has used a technically valid, although mistaken address for the transaction.

If you accidentally send bitcoins to a wrong, yet valid address, the only thing you can do is asking the owner of that address (the one who generated it and got the associated key) to return the money. That's why OP posted here. Presumably the owner could be contacted and returned the money in the end (according to the blockchain).

If the owner of the wrong address cannot be identified, lost the private key that was generated with the address, is dead or not willing to return the money, then the bitcoins are lost forever.
legendary
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I don't get it (im quite new here, sorry), if you send the bitcoin to a address that is non exist, wont it give you back the bitcoin like how money in bank works?

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

The network doesn't know which addresses exist or not, because you can create addresses offline. Thus, coins are sent normally. If nobody owns that address, the coins are effectively lost.
full member
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I don't get it (im quite new here, sorry), if you send the bitcoin to a address that is non exist, wont it give you back the bitcoin like how money in bank works?

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh
hero member
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Just looked at the address and they are gone now:

https://blockchain.info/address/17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5
 
vip
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Wow  Shocked

$3192.42 down the drain. So if the address doesn't exist, is it possible that it will be generated in the future? What a lottery that would be!
I think the chances of that actually lower than the chances of generating, say, a satoshidice address (which isn't going to happen really).
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I will take a moment of silence for the forever trapped BTC.


LOL
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 I will take a moment of silence for the forever trapped BTC.

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Wow  Shocked

$3192.42 down the drain. So if the address doesn't exist, is it possible that it will be generated in the future? What a lottery that would be!
legendary
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Away on an extended break
An escrow of 42 BTC was accidentally released to 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5.  If you are the owner of this address, please send the 42 BTC back to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr, thanks!

So are you basically saying, you wanted to carry out a transaction using John K as an escrow service, John K told you to send the BTC to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr and you typed '17ifs' into some database that shows first bits of previous addresses that have been used in transactions, it came back with 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 and you hit the send button...? Because using the copy and paste function that's part of any modern OS was too much work?

If so, you are truly an imbecile. And now around $3000 poorer. But thank you for making the rest of us bitcoin owners a little bit richer.

So you'll be checking those long jumbles of letters more carefully from now on, yes?

ETA: just seen your sig. You're asking people who send you money to hold your hand while you try to keep track of all those difficult strings of letters. Fucking hell. Look, if you genuinely have Alzheimer's or something then I apologise for my remarks. If you don't, then consider them written in stone in 6ft tall letters outside your house.
Nope, the sequence of events were like this:

1) I received escrow at my address from buyer
2) Transaction success, I ask for address from seller
3) I release the funds to the address given
4) Turns out address were erroneous, and everything else is history.

Also, the dissing isn't warranted. I'm sure he's not the only one who used a wrong address before, either in BTC land or even in real world mails.
hero member
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uh, thanks for the helpful post

If you EVER lose any bitcoins again in your entire life, I will gloomily concede that I was no help at all.
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An escrow of 42 BTC was accidentally released to 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5.  If you are the owner of this address, please send the 42 BTC back to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr, thanks!

So are you basically saying, you wanted to carry out a transaction using John K as an escrow service, John K told you to send the BTC to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr and you typed '17ifs' into some database that shows first bits of previous addresses that have been used in transactions, it came back with 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 and you hit the send button...? Because using the copy and paste function that's part of any modern OS was too much work?

If so, you are truly an imbecile. And now around $3000 poorer. But thank you for making the rest of us bitcoin owners a little bit richer.

So you'll be checking those long jumbles of letters more carefully from now on, yes?

uh, thanks for the helpful post
hero member
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An escrow of 42 BTC was accidentally released to 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5.  If you are the owner of this address, please send the 42 BTC back to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr, thanks!

So are you basically saying, you wanted to carry out a transaction using John K as an escrow service, John K told you to send the BTC to 17ifsWDxf1JmaCvqjhufnUvJM9fUBAD2Cr and you typed '17ifs' into some database that shows first bits of previous addresses that have been used in transactions, it came back with 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 and you hit the send button...? Because using the copy and paste function that's part of any modern OS was too much work?

If so, you are truly an imbecile. And now around $3000 poorer. But thank you for making the rest of us bitcoin owners a little bit richer.

So you'll be checking those long jumbles of letters more carefully from now on, yes?

ETA: just seen your sig. You're asking people who send you money to hold your hand while you try to keep track of all those difficult strings of letters. Fucking hell. Look, if you genuinely have Alzheimer's or something then I apologise for my remarks. If you don't, then consider them written in stone in 6ft tall letters outside your house.
legendary
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Apparently, 17ifs was not parked, but part of a steganographic message that happened to include it.  The address might well belong to nobody at all.  ugh...

Most probably lost forever.  Depending on the message maybe provable to be lost forever.  Add that to the list of lost BTC. 
hero member
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Apparently, 17ifs was not parked, but part of a steganographic message that happened to include it.  The address might well belong to nobody at all.  ugh...

Drat - that's the worse thing ever.  Cry


Mondays... there's gotta be bad news to counter the good news of the rally Tongue
legendary
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Away on an extended break
Apparently, 17ifs was not parked, but part of a steganographic message that happened to include it.  The address might well belong to nobody at all.  ugh...

Drat - that's the worse thing ever.  Cry
hero member
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Apparently, 17ifs was not parked, but part of a steganographic message that happened to include it.  The address might well belong to nobody at all.  ugh...
legendary
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Away on an extended break
1MaZAHzEFfinRJ2dwK6YtNDfvWMBkiAxDr is a big address that sent to that other one before...

https://blockchain.info/tx/c611d20f0ed2f67f208c0205e00186e1fe4312be4842a0e6921218de1bf886ac

Is that some sort of mixer?

Apparently that address is mentioned here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.384261
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Manateeeeeeees
1MaZAHzEFfinRJ2dwK6YtNDfvWMBkiAxDr is a big address that sent to that other one before...

https://blockchain.info/tx/c611d20f0ed2f67f208c0205e00186e1fe4312be4842a0e6921218de1bf886ac

Is that some sort of mixer?
legendary
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Away on an extended break
^I confirm this as the escrow. Apparently OP copied the wrong address for me from the firstbits system where 17ifsBMD96wHNgEmhwPkMhhepWkjX4jrQ5 was reserved first.  Lips sealed
hero member
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Manateeeeeeees
Ouch!  Gotta watch out for firstbits!  Were you .....


Firstbitten!?!?
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