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Topic: [AUCTION] Clay Cast Crypto Silver BTC bars + 2 half Sharks + raffle (8 hrs left) (Read 559 times)

member
Activity: 356
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Thank you ClayCastCrypto for all your hard work and great updates.  I'm really looking forward to receiving the silver bar. 

Cheers
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
Winners:

Lot 1 - av8rjeff - 0.03
Lot 2 - Agrawas - 0.03
Lot 3 - No bid
Lot 4 - No bid
Lot 5 - Dozerz - 0.03

We discussed the mistake with regard to the first raffle, so we decided to compensate all three winners.
Will contact you.



Second raffle prize:

588,620:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/block/00000000000000000006de5a087bd183310e7ab37df57831b46f476abc1f52fa/

0 - Lot 1
1 - Lot 2
2 - Lot 3
3 - Lot 4
4 - Lot 5
5 - Lot 1
6 - Lot 2
7 - Lot 3
8 - Lot 4
9 - Lot 5
0 - Lot 1
a - Lot 2
b - Lot 3
c - Lot 4
d - Lot 5
e - Next block
f - Next block

a - Lot 2 Wins! (Agrawas)

Thx all, am packaging now!
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
Winners:

Lot 1 - av8rjeff - 0.03
Lot 2 - Agrawas - 0.03
Lot 3 - No bid
Lot 4 - No bid
Lot 5 - Dozerz - 0.03

We discussed the mistake with regard to the first raffle, so we decided to compensate all three winners.
Will contact you.

hero member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 501
https://rollbit.com/referral/Agrawas
Thanks!
We are still working on a site for the complete backstory and more images of the process (and fails...).

Also, seems BTC keeps bumping up, so see what we can do about that. These bars should come at a fair (fiat) price.

Is it possible to ad a last-minute raffle within this auction for the lots people are bidding for? Extra prize...
Ideas are welcome.

Guerilla-embedded-raffle-prize-background:

When we started, we had no experience with 3D software, 3D printing options or access to a quality 3D printer, so we used a 3D printing service.
Our first printed mold was a small Ethereum bar, followed by two LTC designs, similar in width, height and thickness (or lack of it).
The 3D printing company we contacted also offered a service to print models in wax and cast it in silver, brass, bronze or gold using the 'lost wax' method.
To see the casting quality of a professional company, we ordered one model in sterling silver, three in brass with rhodium plating and one bigger model in bronze with a PU coating.
We had plans to order 10 small rhodium plated LTC bars, but did not, because we felt uncomfortable with selling products we did not make ourselves.
We will however, revisit rhodium plating our objects in the near future.
Rhodium is often used as a protective layer on top of jewelry, harder and more resistant to scratching.

The raffle prize is a botched LTC bar with regard to funding. It also has some scratches, despite the rhodium.
After an 'aw f#ck it' moment, I went ahead and assembled the rhodium plated prototypes.
I had no LTC, so decided to buy the LTC with iDeal and fund directly from an exchange.
Never do funding from an exchange when having a bad day and a drink or two,
Two bars were correctly funded with 1 LTC, this one was funded with 0.999829 LTC.
Yes yes...
We are no Denarium...
We pokered with it... So yeah, casino bar. Scratches. Did clean it.

LTC prototype #2 -  Rhodium plated brass, sterling silver back - lasered with QR code, titanium plating with lasered key - funded with 0.999829 LTC  
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?MLyjybKk64GwZmKoGe54GaDJ3KnLYQgCZk.htm
(Number three has been sent to Charlie Lee with help from a certain miner, don't know if he received it).

      

Rules:

If you win a lot from the BTC bar auction, you automatically enter a raffle for a LTC prototype.
The number of the lot you are bidding on, will receive the following raffle spots:

0 - Lot 1
1 - Lot 2
2 - Lot 3
3 - Lot 4
4 - Lot 5
5 - Lot 1
6 - Lot 2
7 - Lot 3
8 - Lot 4
9 - Lot 5
0 - Lot 1
a - Lot 2
b - Lot 3
c - Lot 4
d - Lot 5
e - Next block
f - Next block

The winner will be determined by block 588,579‬ - The last character.
If e or f wins, the next block will count, if an open slot wins (no bid on a BTC bar lot), the next block will count, etc.

Hope we state this raffle and block height prediction correctly, this should be a couple of hours after auction ends.
Please correct us if we are wrong on block height.

Clay

This is super awesome Clay, thanks for your generosity..

Maybe, but we need to sell the BTC bars to continue wherever this is going.  Grin

Since the raffle ended a couple of hours before the ending of the auction...  Roll Eyes
We decided to add another (last minute) raffle.

Winning Lot for first raffle:

588,579‬ - 8 - Lot 4
588,580 - c - Lot 4
588,581 - c - Lot 4
588,582 - 7 - Lot 3
588,583 - 4 - Lot 5

Please correct me if I am wrong, seems Lot 5 has won the LTC proto. Sorry for the mess up.

Same rules, different block for the new prize: 588,620

Prize: 0.5 OZT Clay Cast LTC tenth. Will be loaded with 0.10 LTC





I think the raffle winning blocks should be adjusted to start after the auction is over. Not saying but just incase if a lot 3 or 4 gets a bid, that person would be def disappointed...
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
Thanks!
We are still working on a site for the complete backstory and more images of the process (and fails...).

Also, seems BTC keeps bumping up, so see what we can do about that. These bars should come at a fair (fiat) price.

Is it possible to ad a last-minute raffle within this auction for the lots people are bidding for? Extra prize...
Ideas are welcome.

Guerilla-embedded-raffle-prize-background:

When we started, we had no experience with 3D software, 3D printing options or access to a quality 3D printer, so we used a 3D printing service.
Our first printed mold was a small Ethereum bar, followed by two LTC designs, similar in width, height and thickness (or lack of it).
The 3D printing company we contacted also offered a service to print models in wax and cast it in silver, brass, bronze or gold using the 'lost wax' method.
To see the casting quality of a professional company, we ordered one model in sterling silver, three in brass with rhodium plating and one bigger model in bronze with a PU coating.
We had plans to order 10 small rhodium plated LTC bars, but did not, because we felt uncomfortable with selling products we did not make ourselves.
We will however, revisit rhodium plating our objects in the near future.
Rhodium is often used as a protective layer on top of jewelry, harder and more resistant to scratching.

The raffle prize is a botched LTC bar with regard to funding. It also has some scratches, despite the rhodium.
After an 'aw f#ck it' moment, I went ahead and assembled the rhodium plated prototypes.
I had no LTC, so decided to buy the LTC with iDeal and fund directly from an exchange.
Never do funding from an exchange when having a bad day and a drink or two,
Two bars were correctly funded with 1 LTC, this one was funded with 0.999829 LTC.
Yes yes...
We are no Denarium...
We pokered with it... So yeah, casino bar. Scratches. Did clean it.

LTC prototype #2 -  Rhodium plated brass, sterling silver back - lasered with QR code, titanium plating with lasered key - funded with 0.999829 LTC  
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?MLyjybKk64GwZmKoGe54GaDJ3KnLYQgCZk.htm
(Number three has been sent to Charlie Lee with help from a certain miner, don't know if he received it).

      

Rules:

If you win a lot from the BTC bar auction, you automatically enter a raffle for a LTC prototype.
The number of the lot you are bidding on, will receive the following raffle spots:

0 - Lot 1
1 - Lot 2
2 - Lot 3
3 - Lot 4
4 - Lot 5
5 - Lot 1
6 - Lot 2
7 - Lot 3
8 - Lot 4
9 - Lot 5
0 - Lot 1
a - Lot 2
b - Lot 3
c - Lot 4
d - Lot 5
e - Next block
f - Next block

The winner will be determined by block 588,579‬ - The last character.
If e or f wins, the next block will count, if an open slot wins (no bid on a BTC bar lot), the next block will count, etc.

Hope we state this raffle and block height prediction correctly, this should be a couple of hours after auction ends.
Please correct us if we are wrong on block height.

Clay

This is super awesome Clay, thanks for your generosity..

Maybe, but we need to sell the BTC bars to continue wherever this is going.  Grin

Since the raffle ended a couple of hours before the ending of the auction...  Roll Eyes
We decided to add another (last minute) raffle.

Winning Lot for first raffle:

588,579‬ - 8 - Lot 4
588,580 - c - Lot 4
588,581 - c - Lot 4
588,582 - 7 - Lot 3
588,583 - 4 - Lot 5

Please correct me if I am wrong, seems Lot 5 has won the LTC proto. Sorry for the mess up.

Same rules, different block for the new prize: 588,620

Prize: 0.5 OZT Clay Cast LTC tenth. Will be loaded with 0.10 LTC



copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
So... a small 8 hours left!

Let's bump up with another Shark!

Every winning lot gets 2 fine silver half OZ sharks!



Current bids:

Lot 1 - av8rjeff - 0.03
Lot 2 - Agrawas - 0.03
Lot 3 - No bid
Lot 4 - No bid
Lot 5 - Dozerz - 0.03
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
I received the LTC #3 Rhodium bar. Thanks!
Will you make more of these LTC ones or have you made a bunch already?

Hi Mr. Coblee,

Yes, we will redo the rhodium plated bars.
Think we will replace the sterling plate on the back with a sticker, metallic or hologram.
Probably next year though, we want to do the plating ourselves, or at least try.
We have also acquired some gems to play around with (bridge of sapphires for example).

Will do some small tablets (about 0.5 OZT), one striped bar (about 3.5 OZT) and something bigger (above 250 grams - kilo).
Think will end the bar series with the biggest and then move on to something else, more free of the constraints of standard air-tite cases.

Thank you and hope the bar fits in your collection.

Clay

 


donator
Activity: 1654
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Creator of Litecoin. Cryptocurrency enthusiast.
I received the LTC #3 Rhodium bar. Thanks!
Will you make more of these LTC ones or have you made a bunch already?
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
I am very interested in obtaining a bar that is either not funded or has a lower funded amount. If that ever comes available please let me know! thanks

Will happen and will do.
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
Thanks!
We are still working on a site for the complete backstory and more images of the process (and fails...).

Also, seems BTC keeps bumping up, so see what we can do about that. These bars should come at a fair (fiat) price.

Is it possible to ad a last-minute raffle within this auction for the lots people are bidding for? Extra prize...
Ideas are welcome.

Guerilla-embedded-raffle-prize-background:

When we started, we had no experience with 3D software, 3D printing options or access to a quality 3D printer, so we used a 3D printing service.
Our first printed mold was a small Ethereum bar, followed by two LTC designs, similar in width, height and thickness (or lack of it).
The 3D printing company we contacted also offered a service to print models in wax and cast it in silver, brass, bronze or gold using the 'lost wax' method.
To see the casting quality of a professional company, we ordered one model in sterling silver, three in brass with rhodium plating and one bigger model in bronze with a PU coating.
We had plans to order 10 small rhodium plated LTC bars, but did not, because we felt uncomfortable with selling products we did not make ourselves.
We will however, revisit rhodium plating our objects in the near future.
Rhodium is often used as a protective layer on top of jewelry, harder and more resistant to scratching.

The raffle prize is a botched LTC bar with regard to funding. It also has some scratches, despite the rhodium.
After an 'aw f#ck it' moment, I went ahead and assembled the rhodium plated prototypes.
I had no LTC, so decided to buy the LTC with iDeal and fund directly from an exchange.
Never do funding from an exchange when having a bad day and a drink or two,
Two bars were correctly funded with 1 LTC, this one was funded with 0.999829 LTC.
Yes yes...
We are no Denarium...
We pokered with it... So yeah, casino bar. Scratches. Did clean it.

LTC prototype #2 -  Rhodium plated brass, sterling silver back - lasered with QR code, titanium plating with lasered key - funded with 0.999829 LTC  
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?MLyjybKk64GwZmKoGe54GaDJ3KnLYQgCZk.htm
(Number three has been sent to Charlie Lee with help from a certain miner, don't know if he received it).

      

Rules:

If you win a lot from the BTC bar auction, you automatically enter a raffle for a LTC prototype.
The number of the lot you are bidding on, will receive the following raffle spots:

0 - Lot 1
1 - Lot 2
2 - Lot 3
3 - Lot 4
4 - Lot 5
5 - Lot 1
6 - Lot 2
7 - Lot 3
8 - Lot 4
9 - Lot 5
0 - Lot 1
a - Lot 2
b - Lot 3
c - Lot 4
d - Lot 5
e - Next block
f - Next block

The winner will be determined by block 588,579‬ - The last character.
If e or f wins, the next block will count, if an open slot wins (no bid on a BTC bar lot), the next block will count, etc.

Hope we state this raffle and block height prediction correctly, this should be a couple of hours after auction ends.
Please correct us if we are wrong on block height.

Clay

This is super awesome Clay, thanks for your generosity..

Maybe, but we need to sell the BTC bars to continue wherever this is going.  Grin
hero member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 501
https://rollbit.com/referral/Agrawas
Thanks!
We are still working on a site for the complete backstory and more images of the process (and fails...).

Also, seems BTC keeps bumping up, so see what we can do about that. These bars should come at a fair (fiat) price.

Is it possible to ad a last-minute raffle within this auction for the lots people are bidding for? Extra prize...
Ideas are welcome.

Guerilla-embedded-raffle-prize-background:

When we started, we had no experience with 3D software, 3D printing options or access to a quality 3D printer, so we used a 3D printing service.
Our first printed mold was a small Ethereum bar, followed by two LTC designs, similar in width, height and thickness (or lack of it).
The 3D printing company we contacted also offered a service to print models in wax and cast it in silver, brass, bronze or gold using the 'lost wax' method.
To see the casting quality of a professional company, we ordered one model in sterling silver, three in brass with rhodium plating and one bigger model in bronze with a PU coating.
We had plans to order 10 small rhodium plated LTC bars, but did not, because we felt uncomfortable with selling products we did not make ourselves.
We will however, revisit rhodium plating our objects in the near future.
Rhodium is often used as a protective layer on top of jewelry, harder and more resistant to scratching.

The raffle prize is a botched LTC bar with regard to funding. It also has some scratches, despite the rhodium.
After an 'aw f#ck it' moment, I went ahead and assembled the rhodium plated prototypes.
I had no LTC, so decided to buy the LTC with iDeal and fund directly from an exchange.
Never do funding from an exchange when having a bad day and a drink or two,
Two bars were correctly funded with 1 LTC, this one was funded with 0.999829 LTC.
Yes yes...
We are no Denarium...
We pokered with it... So yeah, casino bar. Scratches. Did clean it.

LTC prototype #2 -  Rhodium plated brass, sterling silver back - lasered with QR code, titanium plating with lasered key - funded with 0.999829 LTC  
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?MLyjybKk64GwZmKoGe54GaDJ3KnLYQgCZk.htm
(Number three has been sent to Charlie Lee with help from a certain miner, don't know if he received it).

      

Rules:

If you win a lot from the BTC bar auction, you automatically enter a raffle for a LTC prototype.
The number of the lot you are bidding on, will receive the following raffle spots:

0 - Lot 1
1 - Lot 2
2 - Lot 3
3 - Lot 4
4 - Lot 5
5 - Lot 1
6 - Lot 2
7 - Lot 3
8 - Lot 4
9 - Lot 5
0 - Lot 1
a - Lot 2
b - Lot 3
c - Lot 4
d - Lot 5
e - Next block
f - Next block

The winner will be determined by block 588,579‬ - The last character.
If e or f wins, the next block will count, if an open slot wins (no bid on a BTC bar lot), the next block will count, etc.

Hope we state this raffle and block height prediction correctly, this should be a couple of hours after auction ends.
Please correct us if we are wrong on block height.

Clay

This is super awesome Clay, thanks for your generosity..
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 3014
I am very interested in obtaining a bar that is either not funded or has a lower funded amount. If that ever comes available please let me know! thanks
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
Thanks!
We are still working on a site for the complete backstory and more images of the process (and fails...).

Also, seems BTC keeps bumping up, so see what we can do about that. These bars should come at a fair (fiat) price.

Is it possible to ad a last-minute raffle within this auction for the lots people are bidding for? Extra prize...
Ideas are welcome.

Guerilla-embedded-raffle-prize-background:

When we started, we had no experience with 3D software, 3D printing options or access to a quality 3D printer, so we used a 3D printing service.
Our first printed mold was a small Ethereum bar, followed by two LTC designs, similar in width, height and thickness (or lack of it).
The 3D printing company we contacted also offered a service to print models in wax and cast it in silver, brass, bronze or gold using the 'lost wax' method.
To see the casting quality of a professional company, we ordered one model in sterling silver, three in brass with rhodium plating and one bigger model in bronze with a PU coating.
We had plans to order 10 small rhodium plated LTC bars, but did not, because we felt uncomfortable with selling products we did not make ourselves.
We will however, revisit rhodium plating our objects in the near future.
Rhodium is often used as a protective layer on top of jewelry, harder and more resistant to scratching.

The raffle prize is a botched LTC bar with regard to funding. It also has some scratches, despite the rhodium.
After an 'aw f#ck it' moment, I went ahead and assembled the rhodium plated prototypes.
I had no LTC, so decided to buy the LTC with iDeal and fund directly from an exchange.
Never do funding from an exchange when having a bad day and a drink or two,
Two bars were correctly funded with 1 LTC, this one was funded with 0.999829 LTC.
Yes yes...
We are no Denarium...
We pokered with it... So yeah, casino bar. Scratches. Did clean it.

LTC prototype #2 -  Rhodium plated brass, sterling silver back - lasered with QR code, titanium plating with lasered key - funded with 0.999829 LTC  
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/address.dws?MLyjybKk64GwZmKoGe54GaDJ3KnLYQgCZk.htm
(Number three has been sent to Charlie Lee with help from a certain miner, don't know if he received it).

      

Rules:

If you win a lot from the BTC bar auction, you automatically enter a raffle for a LTC prototype.
The number of the lot you are bidding on, will receive the following raffle spots:

0 - Lot 1
1 - Lot 2
2 - Lot 3
3 - Lot 4
4 - Lot 5
5 - Lot 1
6 - Lot 2
7 - Lot 3
8 - Lot 4
9 - Lot 5
0 - Lot 1
a - Lot 2
b - Lot 3
c - Lot 4
d - Lot 5
e - Next block
f - Next block

The winner will be determined by block 588,579‬ - The last character.
If e or f wins, the next block will count, if an open slot wins (no bid on a BTC bar lot), the next block will count, etc.

Hope we state this raffle and block height prediction correctly, this should be a couple of hours after auction ends.
Please correct us if we are wrong on block height.

Clay
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
Thanks!
We are still working on a site for the complete backstory and more images of the process (and fails...).

Also, seems BTC keeps bumping up, so see what we can do about that. These bars should come at a fair (fiat) price.

Is it possible to ad a last-minute raffle within this auction for the lots people are bidding for? Extra prize...
Ideas are welcome.
member
Activity: 356
Merit: 23
Ah what the heck...I like all y'alls story.

Lot 1 - BTC Bar #1 bid--0.03BTC

Cheers gents
member
Activity: 356
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Ummm...throw in are ALWAYS welcome.  Grin
copper member
Activity: 146
Merit: 82
Since BTC bumped up, think we should to. Hope that's not against forum rules...  Grin

Every winner of a lot gets a half (OZ) Shark!

     
legendary
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hero member
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https://rollbit.com/referral/Agrawas
copper member
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Merit: 82
Hi all,

Up for auction: nr's. 1 - 5 of our hand-made BTC silver bars, they are funded.
This is the first time we are setting up an auction, so hope we do this correctly.
Please provide feedback if we can improve. We hope the images will suffice, please click to view a larger depiction.

Some background:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ClayCastCrypto
Auction for nr's. 1, 2 and 3 of our LTC serie: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5157382

Moving forward:

- It's still a hobby thing, though Mr. Tax-man might disagree when we have finished our fourth series or so.
- We will do a few more series of 10 bars in the same shape and weight, then we should level up somehow.
- BIP38: We have been thinking about this, we want to create a (bigger) model with an extra enclosure, secret chamber or something to store the generated passphrase / key.
- If you want BIP38, please contact us or leave a comment.

The bars:

- These .999 silver bars are poured in Delft, using the Delft clay method.
- Nr's. 1 - 5 up for auction. Stamped with serial number, logo and weight in OZT. Is shipped enclosed in an air-tite case within a velvet pouch.
- We will put one or two bars of this serie up for raffle using the median price of this auction.
- A couple of bars will be sold to befriended collectors for the median price of this auction.
- They are funded with BTC, corresponding to their weight (3.4 OZT - 0.034 BTC).
- Simple design, Qr code of public address on the back of the bar, private key beneath a self destructive holographic sticker on the front.
- Address and key etched with a laser on titanium plating with the use of Laserbond.
- Placed a piece of paper between the titanium and holographic sticker, same size as the titanium, to keep the etched key free from stickyness (if bar is ever redeemed).
- Instead of sandblasting these bars, like we did with the LTC bars, we decided to polish the front to a certain degree...
- Rough (un)finish(ed) look. The front of the bar is shiny, but has dents, pits and scratches. The back and sides have visble sanding marks and some polishing. Gritty.
- Ungradable, nowhere near perfection, but handmade and handled with care.
- Ready to ship.

From left to right: bars 1 - 5, front-side of the bar shown in the top-row, back-side in second row. Click image for a larger depiction.

          

          

      

Auction & terms:

- Please note that you are bidding for the bars only. The funded amount on the bar + the winning bid for the bar + escrow (if chosen) is the total sum of payment.

You are bidding for the following lots (bars):

Lot 1 - BTC Bar #1 - 3CgWmtPjnQDwaJJ3nXtroTS2w1JNKj27dJ - 3.4 OZT - funded with 0.034 BTC   https://www.blockstream.info/address/3CgWmtPjnQDwaJJ3nXtroTS2w1JNKj27dJ
Lot 2 - BTC Bar #2 - 385jnXM7bHVR15xr9fa9oTkR7Vkd4J834g - 3.5 OZT - funded with 0.035 BTC   https://www.blockstream.info/address/385jnXM7bHVR15xr9fa9oTkR7Vkd4J834g
Lot 3 - BTC Bar #3 - 3AjwmkoQ2tvZHAGQHUoWwXybcM8S3U1Mrt - 3.7 OZT - funded with 0.037 BTC   https://www.blockstream.info/address/3AjwmkoQ2tvZHAGQHUoWwXybcM8S3U1Mrt
Lot 4 - BTC Bar #4 - 3PAwT4xJ419QVVmW2CzRk3b2bZ26zAXbgo - 3.5 OZT - funded with 0.035 BTC   https://www.blockstream.info/address/3PAwT4xJ419QVVmW2CzRk3b2bZ26zAXbgo
Lot 5 - BTC Bar #5 - 3LnxvLCX2eBWKPYMyc1QJfH2pqjjKQfGNz - 3.3 OZT - funded with 0.033 BTC   https://www.blockstream.info/address/3LnxvLCX2eBWKPYMyc1QJfH2pqjjKQfGNz

- Starting Bid per lot:  0.03 BTC (please keep in mind you are bidding for the lot, the total payment amount is winning bid + funded amount + escrow if chosen).
- Bid Incremeents:  0.001 BTC
- Bids & payments:  Bids in BTC, payments in BTC.
- Payment address:  1J7QkK5uj39in6iCnGrDKTcjg7AiowWyHE (if you seem to trust me and want to buy directly: use this address, will not pm you to request payment to another address).
- Escrow: Miner Jones, escrow costs are for buyer.
- Auction Ends:  Sunday, 04 August, 20.00 GMT +1 (Amsterdamned time).
- Sniping:  No snipes, each bid in the final 10 minutes adds 10 minutes until no bid has been made for 10 minutes.  
- Shipping:  Free shipping worldwide. Will ship insured with track and trace.
- VAT / customs: If charges apply, costs are for buyer. Sorry.

Regards and happy bidding!

Clay

Edit 31 July 2019: Every winner of a lot wins a half OZ Shark! Will be shipped with the bar in a square air-tite and pouch.
Edit 2 Aug 2019: Every winner of a lot enters an embedded raffle... See reply posts.

      
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