Auction, escrow website, similar to localbitcoins for BitcoinTalk Accounts.

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Quote from: NyeFe on October 27, 2016, 08:48:40 AM

Quote from: OpenTalkLab on October 27, 2016, 08:45:48 AM

Well I think there is no need for that.We already have trusted escrow here on this forum who are doing that kind of task.Also this way account buying or selling will be encouraged.This will cause more spam on this forum.

And any other deal we already have sites that do the escrow for use like LBC, paxful etc

You do have a point. But at the same time, we could actually have a clear, public, historic record of accounts which have been sold/bought. I'm sure this information would be valuable to some people.

Furthermore, I'm actually looking at bring-out extensions which highlight accounts (on this forum) that have been put-up for sale. It might not be suitable for some people, like everything else, i understand. But i'm sure someone, somewhere could really use these sort of simplifications, and openness of this market.

I'd think that account buyers and sellers would really not appreciate that. It's a good idea but a bad business model - plus, probably won't give you much business in the first place, users tend to stick to what they are familiar with (in this case, bitcointalk escrows).

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totally against the idea
think Crazyivan gave the reasoning above
also even from the business point of view it is bound to fail since the market is only that big and you would have to compete with the source itself

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Quote from: NyeFe on October 27, 2016, 10:05:15 AM

Quote from: Lucius on October 27, 2016, 09:51:48 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on October 27, 2016, 09:24:51 AM

Well, I see the issue with the fact it s not allowed to sell accounts at all. It s currently tolerated due to some reason. Also, selling account means more scammers would have access to aged accounts and they ll be able to scam more people due to acquired reputation which comes with these accounts.

Again, why is this something good for anyone else besides you who would charging a fee for this?

I share your opinion, selling accounts should be completely prohibited for reason all we know very good.When it is already permitted to sell/buy accounts, I do not see any reason that accounts can be sell/buy anywhere else than on this forum.

If someone decide to buy/sell account then he/she can use trusted escrow on this forum and check trust before deal is done.I do not see how some service outside this forum can be done this on safer or better way?

I used to share these same opinions. But like i said above, if people were able to easily lookup accounts (similar to bitcoin address taint analysis) to see if that account has been previously sold, or to even see how long the current owner has had the account for (and all the legitimate posts from the current owner within that time-frame), I think this alone would help to prevent scammers on this forum.

hopefully you guys can think about it, and envision the bigger, brighter future.

There's an option for fill your address and post history can be tracking that would indicate a grammar.
There's maybe would good if there are a system which people able to look up account transaction has been previously sold, but what a point?

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No, automated system for selling Bitcointalk's accounts is not needed in my opinion.
First of all, this market is not so big to justify wasting time and effort on creating additional service for it.
Furthermore, I think we shouldn't encourage or facilitate accounts trading at all.

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Quote from: NyeFe on October 27, 2016, 08:37:32 AM

Like the title says, I think it'd be useful to develop an escrow website, so people can safely sell their bitcointalk accounts using bitcoins.

-Why ?
-People are trying hard to ban the account sales itself.
-Not worth the time and efforts for something which is further going to create a series of scammers on the forum.
-Moreover,escrow would just not help if the buyer is not aware about the account's history.The posts could be deleted,inbox can be cleared and the buyer would be forced to believe that the account is clean.

Quote from: NyeFe on October 27, 2016, 08:37:32 AM

Tell me what you think, would you require this?

Honestly it won't change anything.

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Quote from: NyeFe on October 27, 2016, 10:05:15 AM

Quote from: Lucius on October 27, 2016, 09:51:48 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on October 27, 2016, 09:24:51 AM

Well, I see the issue with the fact it s not allowed to sell accounts at all. It s currently tolerated due to some reason. Also, selling account means more scammers would have access to aged accounts and they ll be able to scam more people due to acquired reputation which comes with these accounts.

Again, why is this something good for anyone else besides you who would charging a fee for this?

I share your opinion, selling accounts should be completely prohibited for reason all we know very good.When it is already permitted to sell/buy accounts, I do not see any reason that accounts can be sell/buy anywhere else than on this forum.

If someone decide to buy/sell account then he/she can use trusted escrow on this forum and check trust before deal is done.I do not see how some service outside this forum can be done this on safer or better way?

I used to share these same opinions. But like i said above, if people were able to easily lookup accounts (similar to bitcoin address taint analysis) to see if that account has been previously sold, or to even see how long the current owner has had the account for (and all the legitimate posts from the current owner within that time-frame), I think this alone would help to prevent scammers on this forum.

hopefully you guys can think about it, and envision the bigger, brighter future.

Well, if this would be the case, the number of sales would go down to 10% of the current number. The only people who buy aged accounts besides scammers are people who want to get into sig campaigns with higher reputation. This is a form of cheating the system as well. Anyway, good luck.

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Quote from: Lucius on October 27, 2016, 09:51:48 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on October 27, 2016, 09:24:51 AM

Well, I see the issue with the fact it s not allowed to sell accounts at all. It s currently tolerated due to some reason. Also, selling account means more scammers would have access to aged accounts and they ll be able to scam more people due to acquired reputation which comes with these accounts.

Again, why is this something good for anyone else besides you who would charging a fee for this?

I share your opinion, selling accounts should be completely prohibited for reason all we know very good.When it is already permitted to sell/buy accounts, I do not see any reason that accounts can be sell/buy anywhere else than on this forum.

If someone decide to buy/sell account then he/she can use trusted escrow on this forum and check trust before deal is done.I do not see how some service outside this forum can be done this on safer or better way?

I used to share these same opinions. But like i said above, if people were able to easily lookup accounts (similar to bitcoin address taint analysis) to see if that account has been previously sold, or to even see how long the current owner has had the account for (and all the legitimate posts from the current owner within that time-frame), I think this alone would help to prevent scammers on this forum.

hopefully you guys can think about it, and envision the bigger, brighter future.

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Quote from: crazyivan on October 27, 2016, 09:24:51 AM

Well, I see the issue with the fact it s not allowed to sell accounts at all. It s currently tolerated due to some reason. Also, selling account means more scammers would have access to aged accounts and they ll be able to scam more people due to acquired reputation which comes with these accounts.

Again, why is this something good for anyone else besides you who would charging a fee for this?

I share your opinion, selling accounts should be completely prohibited for reason all we know very good.When it is already permitted to sell/buy accounts, I do not see any reason that accounts can be sell/buy anywhere else than on this forum.

If someone decide to buy/sell account then he/she can use trusted escrow on this forum and check trust before deal is done.I do not see how some service outside this forum can be done this on safer or better way?

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Well, I see the issue with the fact it s not allowed to sell accounts at all. It s currently tolerated due to some reason. Also, selling account means more scammers would have access to aged accounts and they ll be able to scam more people due to acquired reputation which comes with these accounts.

Again, why is this something good for anyone else besides you who would charging a fee for this?

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Quote from: OpenTalkLab on October 27, 2016, 08:45:48 AM

Well I think there is no need for that.We already have trusted escrow here on this forum who are doing that kind of task.Also this way account buying or selling will be encouraged.This will cause more spam on this forum.

And any other deal we already have sites that do the escrow for use like LBC, paxful etc

You do have a point. But at the same time, we could actually have a clear, public, historic record of accounts which have been sold/bought. I'm sure this information would be valuable to some people.

Furthermore, I'm actually looking at bring-out extensions which highlight accounts (on this forum) that have been put-up for sale. It might not be suitable for some people, like everything else, i understand. But i'm sure someone, somewhere could really use these sort of simplifications, and openness of this market.

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Well I think there is no need for that.We already have trusted escrow here on this forum who are doing that kind of task.Also this way account buying or selling will be encouraged.This will cause more spam on this forum.

And any other deal we already have sites that do the escrow for use like LBC, paxful etc

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Quote from: NyeFe on October 27, 2016, 08:37:32 AM

Like the title says, I think it'd be useful to develop an escrow website, so people can safely sell their bitcointalk accounts using bitcoins.

Tell me what you think, would you require this?

It won't be a bad idea If you keep it decentralized like Localbitcoins , there should be a reputation/trust system on the website where you could leave either a positive or negative feedback. At first , you should bring some escrows from the forums then after some time the reputation system should set escrows based on their transactions history.

Scott J

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Is there a problem currently with the way accounts are sold?

I assume trusted escrows are used - your solution would move the trust to the website, centralising the risk.

A site that offers bids/asks, but doesn't provide escrow itself might be a better idea.

NyeFe

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Like the title says, I think it'd be useful to develop an escrow website, so people can safely sell their bitcointalk accounts using bitcoins.

Tell me what you think, would you require this?

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