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Topic: ❎ ~AUCTION LEALANA SILVER MONERO (XMR) - 3-coin set ~ NUMBER 15 ⭕️ (Read 1695 times)

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UPDATE: There will be no unfunded coins for this auction or any other auction for these coins that I make in the future.

So aside from your auctions, will any of the sale coins come unfunded?

No they will not.

Which is why I advise people before they purchase these coins that they are required to fund them.
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UPDATE: There will be no unfunded coins for this auction or any other auction for these coins that I make in the future.

So aside from your auctions, will any of the sale coins come unfunded?
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Question for Collectors:

What, if anything, would/could stop a buyer from purchasing a set of my coins, loading them with the full face value, then redeeming them by peeling off the holograms and say cleaning the coins from the hologram residue?

To you, as collectors, would it be any different than if someone just bought the coins without any holograms in the first place?

(Assuming the price they paid was no different than the normal price I set my coins at (outside of auctions) for both scenarios)

Your feedback here is greatly appreciated.

 Smiley

@Hellot, I am in no rush to sell these coin sets. When they sell, they sell.

In fact this auction was posted because I had several requests to post an auction for these XMR coins as I had not posted an auction for these in a while. I am already busy as is, but to fill the demand for the auction, I decided to "give the people what they want".
 
The difference is in exclusivity.  When you said you weren't going to sell these without them being funded, that set a barrier to entry and you are now lowering it.  If someone wanted a coin before, they had to get one from someone who could fund it originally - one of your customers. Now they can just buy one and it will likely be nicer than one that had been peeled.
 
I would care less if these weren't the nicest coins in my collection. Smiley

@Hellot,

I will be sticking to the "no unfunded" coins comment I made originally.

It was my mistake in putting that sentence at the top of this auction.

Thank you for your honest feedback.

You're welcome, thank you for giving it thought.  I had mixed feelings about being open about it but felt it was the best way to check my self with other opinions.  These are absolutely some of the most beautiful coins and I love the exclusiveness of them. Smiley
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UPDATE: There will be no unfunded coins for this auction or any other auction for these coins that I make in the future.
legendary
Activity: 2492
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Question for Collectors:

What, if anything, would/could stop a buyer from purchasing a set of my coins, loading them with the full face value, then redeeming them by peeling off the holograms and say cleaning the coins from the hologram residue?

To you, as collectors, would it be any different than if someone just bought the coins without any holograms in the first place?

(Assuming the price they paid was no different than the normal price I set my coins at (outside of auctions) for both scenarios)

Your feedback here is greatly appreciated.

 Smiley

@Hellot, I am in no rush to sell these coin sets. When they sell, they sell.

In fact this auction was posted because I had several requests to post an auction for these XMR coins as I had not posted an auction for these in a while. I am already busy as is, but to fill the demand for the auction, I decided to "give the people what they want".
 
The difference is in exclusivity.  When you said you weren't going to sell these without them being funded, that set a barrier to entry and you are now lowering it.  If someone wanted a coin before, they had to get one from someone who could fund it originally - one of your customers. Now they can just buy one and it will likely be nicer than one that had been peeled.
 
I would care less if these weren't the nicest coins in my collection. Smiley

@Hellot,

I will be sticking to the "no unfunded" coins comment I made originally.

It was my mistake in putting that sentence at the top of this auction.

Thank you for your honest feedback.
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Question for Collectors:

What, if anything, would/could stop a buyer from purchasing a set of my coins, loading them with the full face value, then redeeming them by peeling off the holograms and say cleaning the coins from the hologram residue?

To you, as collectors, would it be any different than if someone just bought the coins without any holograms in the first place?

(Assuming the price they paid was no different than the normal price I set my coins at (outside of auctions) for both scenarios)

Your feedback here is greatly appreciated.

 Smiley

@Hellot, I am in no rush to sell these coin sets. When they sell, they sell.

In fact this auction was posted because I had several requests to post an auction for these XMR coins as I had not posted an auction for these in a while. I am already busy as is, but to fill the demand for the auction, I decided to "give the people what they want".
 
The difference is in exclusivity.  When you said you weren't going to sell these without them being funded, that set a barrier to entry and you are now lowering it.  If someone wanted a coin before, they had to get one from someone who could fund it originally - one of your customers. Now they can just buy one and it will likely be nicer than one that had been peeled.
 
I would care less if these weren't the nicest coins in my collection. Smiley
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Question for Collectors:

What, if anything, would/could stop a buyer from purchasing a set of my coins, loading them with the full face value, then redeeming them by peeling off the holograms and say cleaning the coins from the hologram residue?

To you, as collectors, would it be any different than if someone just bought the coins without any holograms in the first place?

(Assuming the price they paid was no different than the normal price I set my coins at (outside of auctions) for both scenarios)

Your feedback here is greatly appreciated.

 Smiley

@Hellot, I am in no rush to sell these coin sets. When they sell, they sell.

In fact this auction was posted because I had several requests to post an auction for these XMR coins as I had not posted an auction for these in a while. I am already busy as is, but to fill the demand for the auction, I decided to "give the people what they want".


legendary
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There will be no unfunded coins for this auction, unless you wish to receive the coins without holograms.

I'm not happy about this because you stated no unfunded coins would be sold.  I understand the price has risen and its going to be hard to unload that silver but I feel like you're changing the rules mid game.  I was generous with what I was wiling to pay based on the rules you stated.

After thinking about it my comment would not make sense anyway as set #15 would not be set #15 if it wasn't loaded with a hologram.

There is no way on my end to mark a set #15 if there are no holograms.

So yes Hellot you are right. My original stance remains. Apologies for the confusion.
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There will be no unfunded coins for this auction, unless you wish to receive the coins without holograms.

I'm not happy about this because you stated no unfunded coins would be sold.  I understand the price has risen and its going to be hard to unload that silver but I feel like you're changing the rules mid game.  I was generous with what I was wiling to pay based on the rules you stated.

Hmmm. I totally missed this, thanks Hellot.

As someone in the same boat, I can feel the sting, however, I can see how hard it must be to sell these coins with funding required at this point - I don't think anyone anticipated (or even really wanted) the price rise so fast and soon (except the DNM owners)?, so I can understand how he would want to still sell the coins at this point unfunded, I know a lot of people prefer unfunded coins as well, so who am I to judge, I just think that they can/will never be as valuable as loaded numbered sets.

I look at this way. I only collect coins that have value loaded onto them nowadays for the most part, and most are graded, but I can also see the appeal in owning  a set even without the holo as they are really beautiful coins, but going further - if I were to submit them to anacs without a holo, they would grade @ what, MS60?  ... Not too worried about it I guess. Smoothie can do what he wants, it's his silver/coins.

BTW, my #5 set graded for 2 X MS69 and 1 X MS70. These coins are really amazing, so whoever wins, good work!  Cool

Anyhow, that's all I'm going to say about it. I understand, but otoh, I don't really care for the coins unloaded and without a holo, as beautiful as they are, it just subtracts from the true/full art of them IMO.

We are only bidding on the coins it self at the moment
 We will still have load the coins with 175 monero which is non-negotiable. So if you look at as if your starting bid os 175 monero plus what you bid for the coins.


That isn't the point that Hellot is making though. These were not going to be sold unfunded... the loading amount of 175 XMR was mandatory on top of the bid amount, AFAIK.

This is true at least for this action as I read it, and should be, since it's a fully numbered lower set.


I correct myself - How can this auction be for a numbered set, if the number is UNDER the holo that won't be on it if they chose to be unfunded? Now i'm confused. Peace out! Smiley
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Nevermind I see what you're saying.
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We are only bidding on the coins it self at the moment
 We will still have load the coins with 175 monero which is non-negotiable. So if you look at as if your starting bid os 175 monero plus what you bid for the coins.


That isn't the point that Hellot is making though. These were not going to be sold unfunded... the loading amount of 175 XMR was mandatory on top of the bid amount, AFAIK.
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We are only bidding on the coins it self at the moment
 We will still have load the coins with 175 monero which is non-negotiable. So if you look at as if your starting bid os 175 monero plus what you bid for the coins.
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There will be no unfunded coins for this auction, unless you wish to receive the coins without holograms.

I'm not happy about this because you stated no unfunded coins would be sold.  I understand the price has risen and its going to be hard to unload that silver but I feel like you're changing the rules mid game.  I was generous with what I was wiling to pay based on the rules you stated.
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51.25 XMR - pay BTC
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50.75 XMR - pay BTC
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50.5 XMR - pay BTC
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50.25 XMR - pay BTC
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Before you bid, please note that the winner will be required to fund each of the coin addresses with the full amount of XMR denoted on that specific coin's address. There will be no unfunded coins for this auction, unless you wish to receive the coins without holograms.

AUCTION SET #15 - LEALANA PHYSICAL MONERO SILVER 3-COIN SETS

Auction Ends on October 25th, 2016
**NOTE:No specific hour or minute will end the auction. I will randomly end the auction on the day listed above some time with no notice.





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Starting Bid: 50 XMR
Bidding increments: 0.25XMR
Payment Type Accepted: MONERO (XMR) if you prefer to pay in BITCOIN I am willing to accept bids in XMR and then once the auction ends, if you win, we can use the current XMR spot price as determined by me from Poloniex rate of XMR/BTC. Let me know if you plan to do this in your bid.


BID FORMATS:

A: 14.5 XMR pay-BTC.............................means "I am bidding 14.5 XMR and want to pay the conversion rate in BTC at the time of the payment"

OR

B: 14.5 XMR.........................................means "I am bidding 14.5 XMR and am going to pay in XMR"

Note: Bids do not include shipping costs or funding amounts. SEE BELOW.


General Information
Original post link with more information: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15085484

Each Set Has Exactly ONE of each of the following coins:
100 MONERO 1 oz 999 FINE SILVER - Gold Plated, Red Addresses
50 MONERO 1 oz 999 FINE SILVER - Gold Plated, Black Addresses
25 MONERO 1 oz 999 FINE SILVER, Green Addresses

Maximum Mintage: 250 of each coin type
Diameter: 39mm
Two verifiable mint ERRORS during production. Two signed letters from sales rep, die cutter, sales manager will be given to the auction winnes.


TERMS & CONDITIONS
By bidding on this auction you are agreeing to the terms and conditions listed on my website: www.lealana.com/tac.php


Shipping via USPS Registered Mail:
US - $30
International - $50

For either option buyer agrees to not hold myself or LEALANA, LLC liable if your coins are lost/stolen/damaged while in transit. There are inherent risks in shipping funded physical cryptocoins.

Shipping costs will be added to the winning bids after the auction is finished.(ID will be required upon delivery for pickup) for both domestic U.S. and international customers. Any customs/VAT taxes or fees that are placed on the package while going through customs for international customers are the responsibility of the buyer/winner to pay.

Coins for this auction will ship out by November 15th, 2016 HST.


Payment
The winner of the auctioned will receive an XMR payment address & PAYMENT ID after the auction is concluded. Auction winner needs to make payment within 72 hours of the auction end. Should someone not pay for their bid, the set will go to the next highest bidder.

I MAY INVALIDATE BIDS FROM NEWBIE USERS

AUCTION WINNER INFORMATION SUBMISSION:

*If you win, please send me (IN ONE PRIVATE MESSAGE) immediately ALL of the following information as it is needed to ship you your coins correctly/promptly:

1. FULL Shipping information:

FIRST AND LAST NAME
STREET ADDRESS & BUILDING/SUITE #
CITY
STATE
COUNTRY
POSTAL CODE
PHONE NUMBER
EMAIL ADDRESS

2. If you are outside of the US and want to insure prefunded coins please send me PM for details.
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