Automated Merits for 100 Activities /Topics

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Quote from: noorman0 on June 07, 2020, 07:49:48 AM

If you mean users with Full rank and above before the merit system is implemented, I make sure they are still fine with their safe position to get bigger bounty stakes. Grin

I don't see anything called safe position in this forum

from the perspective of the campaign managers, they will always choose the most active people in the community, there are many factors to consider someone, and the number of received merit is one of those factors. There are thousands of users in this forum, if you don't even earn a 10 merit within 120 days, you don't seem to have a chance to compete with anyone.

YOSHIE

legendary

Activity: 2128

Merit: 1775

Quote from: SUMBI99 on May 26, 2020, 05:09:10 PM

My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with 100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

if that's what you suggest 90% of members on this forum will catch up and make a post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250951.1500, to fulfill posts and activities and meet merit, in the end the forum no longer has members who have professional and useful ideas.

That will not happen in this forum ...!
Your idea is a bit regimental and messy, just for your own sake, without thinking about what you have to post without thinking, it's not good, before the rules of achievement are applied this has already happened.
The forum is full of posts (PROOF OF REGISTRATION).

libert19

hero member

Activity: 2520

Merit: 952

Nope, then it will be just like before merit implementation. It won't represent quality anymore, just how much time you have been active on forum.

noorman0

hero member

Activity: 1778

Merit: 709

[Nope]No hype delivers more than hope

Quote from: ChuckBuck on June 01, 2020, 09:29:23 AM

_snip_ But I know a lot of users that haven't even earned any merit since the merit system was born, although they are still active and post regularly. I had no idea how they were doing Roll Eyes

If you mean users with Full rank and above before the merit system is implemented, I make sure they are still fine with their safe position to get bigger bounty stakes. Grin

Malam90

full member

Activity: 1099

Merit: 116

No, it is not really good for the forum community. There is no automated merit system in this forum now. If it is given 1 merit for 100 activities, shitposters will cheers for making 100 bounty report posting. If you post good topic which is very quality post, high rank members or merit sources can give you merit. This system is fine and it is still proved.

plast555

sr. member

Activity: 951

Merit: 259

Quote from: ChuckBuck on June 01, 2020, 09:29:23 AM

Quote from: Mrengage on May 31, 2020, 02:16:53 PM

This

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he should not continue here Roll Eyes

is a big lash out speech which means he or she is never meant to be in this forum for life. To me I welcome this idea but in the case of 100 topics is never possible I barely make post even up to months now, but the idea is well come. Which I could remember some made a post of how legendary rankers in the forum should be rewarded for quality post made by them here 👉 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/few-changes-base-on-my-own-observations-to-be-implemented-on-bitcointalk-forum-5246995.

It could be a false statement of mine. To be honest, there are many users who haven't even been able to get a single merit since the merit system was implemented. For some people, getting some merit is really difficult. It is also not easy for me Cheesy

But I know a lot of users that haven't even earned any merit since the merit system was born, although they are still active and post regularly. I had no idea how they were doing Roll Eyes

I agree there are such people who are getting affected on this but we may consider other solutions if possible who are posting regularly with some quality. This suggested method would ruin everything rather than helping a few such users. Another reason maybe not all of them are very good at writing but they try to overcome that but fails

hd49728

legendary

Activity: 2044

Merit: 1018

Not your keys, not your coins!

Quote from: ChuckBuck on June 01, 2020, 09:29:23 AM

It could be a false statement of mine. To be honest, there are many users who haven't even been able to get a single merit since the merit system was implemented. For some people, getting some merit is really difficult. It is also not easy for me Cheesy

But I know a lot of users that haven't even earned any merit since the merit system was born, although they are still active and post regularly. I had no idea how they were doing Roll Eyes

It is not easy but is not an impossible task. You earned merits so it makes sense that you have been doing well and the community members appreciated your contributions or your works here.

For the group of users who have actively posted on the forum over the last 2 years and have not yet earned a single merits, they have their own issues. They are likely bounty hunters or shitposters and if they want to earn merit, they have to look at their posting style and post quality.

I have my contest: Sendable merit give away contest (Full Member and below ranks). Many applicants were rejected but there are a few winners. Grin

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Quote from: Mrengage on May 31, 2020, 02:16:53 PM

This

Quote

he should not continue here Roll Eyes

is a big lash out speech which means he or she is never meant to be in this forum for life. To me I welcome this idea but in the case of 100 topics is never possible I barely make post even up to months now, but the idea is well come. Which I could remember some made a post of how legendary rankers in the forum should be rewarded for quality post made by them here 👉 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/few-changes-base-on-my-own-observations-to-be-implemented-on-bitcointalk-forum-5246995.

It could be a false statement of mine. To be honest, there are many users who haven't even been able to get a single merit since the merit system was implemented. For some people, getting some merit is really difficult. It is also not easy for me Cheesy

But I know a lot of users that haven't even earned any merit since the merit system was born, although they are still active and post regularly. I had no idea how they were doing Roll Eyes

Mrengage

member

Activity: 420

Merit: 12

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on May 28, 2020, 09:56:35 PM

Quote from: LoyceMobile on May 27, 2020, 11:47:50 PM

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

Well, sounds good Cheesy

But 100 topics or 100 posts? 100 topics seems to be a number that I and many others rarely achieve Cheesy

Not to mention those who open topics regularly about accusations or reputation, regular users seem to never open their own topics. I only create 2 or 3 topics per month for myself Cheesy

So 100 topics is really something far-fetched, but I support it, if someone don't even get one merit after having 100 threads on this forum, he should not continue here Roll Eyes

This

Quote

he should not continue here Roll Eyes

is a big lash out speech which means he or she is never meant to be in this forum for life. To me I welcome this idea but in the case of 100 topics is never possible I barely make post even up to months now, but the idea is well come. Which I could remember some made a post of how legendary rankers in the forum should be rewarded for quality post made by them here 👉 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/few-changes-base-on-my-own-observations-to-be-implemented-on-bitcointalk-forum-5246995.

iamsheikhadil

full member

Activity: 1022

Merit: 133

That would break the motive with which the merit system was introduced. To prevent spammers from ranking up, the merit system really is working on a good level. While you are true that if a person has made hundred topics then surely there will be some topics which are of good quality and they will get merited eventually by merit sources or people who notice such posts. Automatic merit system would just encourage a lot more spam.

Mrengage

member

Activity: 420

Merit: 12

Globe-dex.com

Quote from: SUMBI99 on May 26, 2020, 05:09:10 PM

I was thinking About probability In every possible earning on Bitcoin which lead me to see the other side based on the Bitcoin forum, Many People ask differently on merit way up But I think they forgot. The probability Aspect which I wish to share with you today, I don't think if One with 100 activities or 100 Topics all of them will be wrong or shit topics and comments definitely it's not true maybe someone with proof will prove me wrong

My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with 100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

I don't buy in to this idea, Now come again regarding this 100 topics one has to create before getting Merits it's definitely not a welcomed idea to me.

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Quote from: plast555 on May 29, 2020, 02:01:07 PM

I could understand that many of them not getting merits but automating it will totally oppose the purpose of merit. Why do you need Merit? if everyone has this automated merit how will you differentiate the quality among it? Anyone can easily automate to make spam posts without even his personal attention so it will not be helpful in anyway

Of course not useful Roll Eyes

In a previous discussion, someone said that a merit is worth $ 20 to sell. It means it needs $ 2,000 to get member rank. Let's think about how many people will spam 1,000 posts to get 10 merits. I bet there will be a lot of guys like that, and this forum is full of garbage, Bitcoin Discussion will have thousands of new posts every day Cheesy

Obsess!

plast555

sr. member

Activity: 951

Merit: 259

Quote from: ChuckBuck on May 28, 2020, 09:56:35 PM

Quote from: LoyceMobile on May 27, 2020, 11:47:50 PM

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

Well, sounds good Cheesy

But 100 topics or 100 posts? 100 topics seems to be a number that I and many others rarely achieve Cheesy

Not to mention those who open topics regularly about accusations or reputation, regular users seem to never open their own topics. I only create 2 or 3 topics per month for myself Cheesy

So 100 topics is really something far-fetched, but I support it, if someone don't even get one merit after having 100 threads on this forum, he should not continue here Roll Eyes

I could understand that many of them not getting merits but automating it will totally oppose the purpose of merit. Why do you need Merit? if everyone has this automated merit how will you differentiate the quality among it? Anyone can easily automate to make spam posts without even his personal attention so it will not be helpful in anyway

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Quote from: LoyceMobile on May 27, 2020, 11:47:50 PM

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

Well, sounds good Cheesy

But 100 topics or 100 posts? 100 topics seems to be a number that I and many others rarely achieve Cheesy

Not to mention those who open topics regularly about accusations or reputation, regular users seem to never open their own topics. I only create 2 or 3 topics per month for myself Cheesy

So 100 topics is really something far-fetched, but I support it, if someone don't even get one merit after having 100 threads on this forum, he should not continue here Roll Eyes

Bttzed03

legendary

Activity: 2114

Merit: 1150

https://bitcoincleanup.com/

I agree with @tranthidung. Bounty reports shouldn't be rewarded in any way. It shouldn't even form part of forum activity.

If I were you, I'd ignore discussions on merits and bounties. Focus on reading/learning technicalities of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology instead. If you do that, there's a good chance your posting will improve and you will probably have less difficulty earning merits (more merits with just 10 topics than creating 100 for example). Just a suggestion...

Timelord2067

legendary

Activity: 3696

Merit: 2219

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on May 27, 2020, 11:47:50 PM

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

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(it could happen) Grin

LoyceMobile

hero member

Activity: 1659

Merit: 687

LoyceV on the road. Or couch.

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

Little Mouse

legendary

Activity: 2156

Merit: 2100

Marketing Campaign Manager |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse

Nowadays, rank is something "if you deserve, grab it." but back in the day, it was only posts which would help ypu rank up and later it comes to activity.
If someone gets merit for certain activity, that will bring the same activity.
You need X amount of activity to reach Sr Member.
You need X amount of activity of activity to reach Sr Member.
Why merit should then be existed even?

amishmanish

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1159

Actually the idea isn't all that bad if the implementation had been possible. It'd probably become an interested ML project. You take the sample of first 100 posts of say 100 of the normal users on the forum who deserve to rank up. You'd need to prepare text analysis based model defining what "Good posting history" looks like. Compare that with the posts of new posters with the requisite activity and then drop them the requisite merit. It would be a lot of work as well as a project worthy of a thesis.

The current system however seems to be working fine. If a newbie posts non-nonsense posts and gets actually involved in the forum, you know, exploring trading options, wallet options, the raffles, collectibles, history etc, sooner or later they emerge out of the woods into the garden of merit heaven. Diversification and making actual connections is the key. P2P works.

bullrun2024bro

legendary

Activity: 1624

Merit: 4417

Quote from: SUMBI99 on May 26, 2020, 05:09:10 PM

My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with 100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

Jesus Christ, no thank you. Why should the forum help to rank up shitposters and bounty spammers? What's next? 50 free Merits for every 10 posts in Meta asking for Merits? Huh

If you would stop talking about earning Merits and would just focus on delivering informative, high-quality content then you would easily gather some. If you don't know what I am talking about, just take the suggestion TMAN made a few month ago:

Quote from: TMAN on February 22, 2020, 11:40:29 PM

You need to go to the yobit forum now, cryptotalk they pay you for every post man. You can just use google translate or spam the keyboard, best forum now, this forum is ded

NotATether

legendary

Activity: 1568

Merit: 6660

bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org

Eh, the merit system is fine as it is. Genuinely helpful newbies who aren't bitcoin experts gravitate towards places like general discussion and beginners and help, and get their merits from there.

On the other hand, people who are seasoned in bitcoin go to boards like development and technical discussion, mining board and technical support where there happens to be less merit circulation because of the fewer readers on that board. But that's mostly compensated by the airdropped merit in 2018 and the reasoning that most such profiles who joined since then have no interest in ranking up.

Timelord2067

legendary

Activity: 3696

Merit: 2219

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 27, 2020, 03:03:53 AM

Seriously? This is one of the worst suggestions I've heard. We might as well get rid of merit if we adopted this as it would make spam worse exponentially. All users would do is create hundreds of shit threads just to get their automatic merit or badge, which i meaningless.

Dude - take a chill pill.

Suggestions are meant to be discussed, flashed out and accepted, or found to be unworkable, not ridiculed by those who should know better.

Oh, and no merits for your spelling mistake either. Roll Eyes

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2968

Merit: 3061

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This utterly defeats the purpose of merit.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on May 26, 2020, 06:53:20 PM

I like the idea in principle - the shit posters might spew forth with bile and what not, but overall it sounds like a great idea. Even if it's not merits then a badge or similar for 10, 50, 100 etc topics started. Things like that - recognition for work achieved.

Seriously? This is one of the worst suggestions I've heard. We might as well get rid of merit if we adopted this as it would make spam worse exponentially. All users would do is create hundreds of shit threads just to get their automatic merit or badge, which is meaningless.

Shimmiry

full member

Activity: 840

Merit: 105

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Quote from: SUMBI99 on May 26, 2020, 05:09:10 PM

My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with 100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

As what most users have said: having an "automated" merits is just a single step to a non-sense idea why merits do exists. Merits was made so that spammers and shitposters would remain on their rank by the time their posts was proven so. You've just joined the forum recently yet we all wished that you read threads first because you just made a cliche and redundant topic.

All you can do is to simply share helpful and useful ideas to a certain post or topic, participate in merit giveaways, or make something other user's would find amusing (such as programs and stuffs).

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: SUMBI99 on May 26, 2020, 05:09:10 PM

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If someone can’t get merited after opening 100 topics, then what is the point of rewarding them by meriting them? Any automatic reward for x100 whatever, only leads to x100 spam to get that reward (so as to say). The Merit System has it flaws, as subjectivity unavoidably leads to, buy automating rewards on sheer numbers, and not on content, is clearly far worse (even if it a complementary feature, which would play contra natura).

rhomelmabini

hero member

Activity: 2030

Merit: 578

No God or Kings, only BITCOIN.

I think it's a bad idea and it will negate the idea of the merit system and people will be lazy waiting for the desired activity needed to get merit. If just solely create a topic for over a 100 or even below that one, that will just create an uproar of spam topics, moreover a redundancy of topics. If ever it will be based on the constructiveness of topics, the moderators will surely get a hefty work to do in order to give whoever has done it.

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

NOOOOOOO!!!!!
It is the worst idea I have seen so far on merit Roll Eyes

In the past, when the merit system was not available, users needed to post at least 14 posts every 2 weeks to increase the activity score (1 or 2 weeks, I'm not sure), meaning that it would generate a minimum of 14 spam posts per spammer.
We all know how the merit system works and how important merit is. And now you recommend 1 merit for every 100 posts and no matter what they post. Meaning it will create 100 spam posts to earn one merit. And there are thousands of people like that. This forum will be filled by shit again Roll Eyes

Please ignore this idea, it's not good Roll Eyes

Timelord2067

legendary

Activity: 3696

Merit: 2219

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I like the idea in principle - the shit posters might spew forth with bile and what not, but overall it sounds like a great idea. Even if it's not merits then a badge or similar for 10, 50, 100 etc topics started. Things like that - recognition for work achieved.

Kemarit

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1353

LOL, this topic really shows the the merit system is working. Shit posters still trying to find ways to circumvent the system. Obviously the answer is a big fat NO. And please lock this thread for good.

tranthidung

legendary

Activity: 2310

Merit: 4085

Farewell o_e_l_e_o

Allowing automatic merits based on activities will allow spammers automatically rank up over time. It will only slow down their rank-up progresses. Whenever they reach the ranks they think enough, they will become more actively spam.

100 bounty report ~ 1 merit. Nope, it should never be like that.
Then 1000 bounty report ~ 10 merits ~ Member rank ? Nope.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: SUMBI99 on May 26, 2020, 05:09:10 PM

I don't think if One with 100 activities or 100 Topics all of them will be wrong or shit topics and comments

If you start giving merits for merely posting 100 times - yes, there will be many many spammers with 100+ all-shit topics.

This has been discussed many times before and the answer is still no. There will be no "automatic" merits as that's too prone to abuse.

SUMBI99

jr. member

Activity: 79

Merit: 3

I was thinking About probability In every possible earning on Bitcoin which lead me to see the other side based on the Bitcoin forum, Many People ask differently on merit way up But I think they forgot. The probability Aspect which I wish to share with you today, I don't think if One with 100 activities or 100 Topics all of them will be wrong or shit topics and comments definitely it's not true maybe someone with proof will prove me wrong

My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with 100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

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