I am thinking of grabbing 10 of them.
Topic: Avalon 200GH vs Antminer 180-200-ish (Read 1952 times)
AntMiner takes Avalon all day everyday.
I am thinking of grabbing 10 of them.
I am thinking of grabbing 10 of them.
There are several things to consider.
1. power use
2. hashing power
3. price
So you need to do the full sum.
BTC mined over useful life - cost of purchase - power use.
I have been running several of both of these types of boxes.
Antminer draws around 360W out of the wall and Avalon draws around 870W out of the wall.
Avalon runs at a steady 25GH/s faster than an Antminer
so over 3 months, which is probably the useful life of these machines I get the following working on BTC@900 USD
Antminer
Hardware break even 56 days
Net profit first time frame 1482.40 USD
Coins per 24h at these conditions 0.0517 BTC
Power cost per 24h 1.26 USD
Revenue per day 46.54 USD
Less power costs 45.28 USD
System efficiency 525.71 MH/s/W
Mining Factor 100 at the end of the time frame 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Average Mining Factor 100 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Power cost per time frame 115.05 USD
Revenue per time frame 3997.46 USD
Less power costs 3882.40 USD
Avalon
Hardware break even 44 days
Net profit first time frame 2116.41 USD
Coins per 24h at these conditions 0.0582 BTC
Power cost per 24h 3.07 USD
Revenue per day 52.36 USD
Less power costs 49.28 USD
System efficiency 242.39 MH/s/W
Mining Factor 100 at the end of the time frame 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Average Mining Factor 100 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Power cost per time frame 280.73 USD
Revenue per time frame 4497.14 USD
Less power costs 4216.41 USD
of course trying to predict the future is hard because of difficulty and prices but at present the maths suggests that Avalon is a better investment than Antminer
My mining expreience agrees
1. power use
2. hashing power
3. price
So you need to do the full sum.
BTC mined over useful life - cost of purchase - power use.
I have been running several of both of these types of boxes.
Antminer draws around 360W out of the wall and Avalon draws around 870W out of the wall.
Avalon runs at a steady 25GH/s faster than an Antminer
so over 3 months, which is probably the useful life of these machines I get the following working on BTC@900 USD
Antminer
Hardware break even 56 days
Net profit first time frame 1482.40 USD
Coins per 24h at these conditions 0.0517 BTC
Power cost per 24h 1.26 USD
Revenue per day 46.54 USD
Less power costs 45.28 USD
System efficiency 525.71 MH/s/W
Mining Factor 100 at the end of the time frame 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Average Mining Factor 100 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Power cost per time frame 115.05 USD
Revenue per time frame 3997.46 USD
Less power costs 3882.40 USD
Avalon
Hardware break even 44 days
Net profit first time frame 2116.41 USD
Coins per 24h at these conditions 0.0582 BTC
Power cost per 24h 3.07 USD
Revenue per day 52.36 USD
Less power costs 49.28 USD
System efficiency 242.39 MH/s/W
Mining Factor 100 at the end of the time frame 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Average Mining Factor 100 0.02 USD/24h@100MHash/s
Power cost per time frame 280.73 USD
Revenue per time frame 4497.14 USD
Less power costs 4216.41 USD
of course trying to predict the future is hard because of difficulty and prices but at present the maths suggests that Avalon is a better investment than Antminer
My mining expreience agrees
Ant is a winner. The seller sushi is a top guy, never fail
These products are all just stepping stones until the better rigs come out.
The devices shipping now will always be stepping stones. Most people would need to shut down their antminers around july (unless BTC price goes up big time). Maybe july/aug for jupiter...
These hashfast, new knc, etc r highly unlikely to survive well into 2015...
Antminer has less power consumption so many people seem to prefer antminer.
However if you really think about the life expectancy of miners,
it is only about 6months not because of the product quality but due to the difficulty raise.
If you calculate the actual electricity cost difference for the 6months, it is not that much than you think
so this brings to the point that important thing is the the price difference.
It is of course depending on the electricity cost of your location.
The above example price of Avalon at 2.4Btc and antminer at 2.6btc, it's 0.2 price difference and the
electricity cost difference for 6months would exceeds 0.2 btc at current rate so i vote for antminer.
But the avalon price is going down and there're some sellers at 2.1~2.2btc eventhough i'm not sure
if the resellers are legit. If the price difference is more than 0.4~5 then i would choose avalon.
You also need to consider the delivery time on both products and there're more avalon resellers so you would have better chance to purchase avalon from existing stock for fast delivery. In this case,
it may be better to purchase avalon in stock and start mining faster.
Avalon seems easier to fix by just replacing parts but don't count on me on this because i only run several avalons and haven't received my antminer order yet.
In overall, both products are good choice now until tera hash miners launch in the market at decent price i think.
However if you really think about the life expectancy of miners,
it is only about 6months not because of the product quality but due to the difficulty raise.
If you calculate the actual electricity cost difference for the 6months, it is not that much than you think
so this brings to the point that important thing is the the price difference.
It is of course depending on the electricity cost of your location.
The above example price of Avalon at 2.4Btc and antminer at 2.6btc, it's 0.2 price difference and the
electricity cost difference for 6months would exceeds 0.2 btc at current rate so i vote for antminer.
But the avalon price is going down and there're some sellers at 2.1~2.2btc eventhough i'm not sure
if the resellers are legit. If the price difference is more than 0.4~5 then i would choose avalon.
You also need to consider the delivery time on both products and there're more avalon resellers so you would have better chance to purchase avalon from existing stock for fast delivery. In this case,
it may be better to purchase avalon in stock and start mining faster.
Avalon seems easier to fix by just replacing parts but don't count on me on this because i only run several avalons and haven't received my antminer order yet.
In overall, both products are good choice now until tera hash miners launch in the market at decent price i think.
Well the difference in the price is a something to look at as well, but avalons can be bought through wire transfer or paypal which for a guy like me that doesn't have a whole BTC yet, it makes it a little more inviting. But yes, I can agree the massive difference is power consumption is something to look at. These products are all just stepping stones until the better rigs come out.
where is it for 2.6? cuz bitmain website has it at 2.65btc
I misquoted the price that was my bad.
antminers are way better
where is it for 2.6? cuz bitmain website has it at 2.65btc
Antminer: (2.6BTC)
Destroy a PSU power cord
Destroy a PSU power cord
Newer models have 6-pin PCIe connectors, negating the need to roll your own cable.
Power consumption is half of the Avalon product.
Antminer wins 
friendly power consumption!
friendly power consumption!
Antminer has less power consumption so many people seem to prefer antminer.
However if you really think about the life expectancy of miners,
it is only about 6months not because of the product quality but due to the difficulty raise.
If you calculate the actual electricity cost difference for the 6months, it is not that much than you think
so this brings to the point that important thing is the the price difference.
It is of course depending on the electricity cost of your location.
The above example price of Avalon at 2.4Btc and antminer at 2.6btc, it's 0.2 price difference and the
electricity cost difference for 6months would exceeds 0.2 btc at current rate so i vote for antminer.
But the avalon price is going down and there're some sellers at 2.1~2.2btc eventhough i'm not sure
if the resellers are legit. If the price difference is more than 0.4~5 then i would choose avalon.
You also need to consider the delivery time on both products and there're more avalon resellers so you would have better chance to purchase avalon from existing stock for fast delivery. In this case,
it may be better to purchase avalon in stock and start mining faster.
Avalon seems easier to fix by just replacing parts but don't count on me on this because i only run several avalons and haven't received my antminer order yet.
In overall, both products are good choice now until tera hash miners launch in the market at decent price i think.
However if you really think about the life expectancy of miners,
it is only about 6months not because of the product quality but due to the difficulty raise.
If you calculate the actual electricity cost difference for the 6months, it is not that much than you think
so this brings to the point that important thing is the the price difference.
It is of course depending on the electricity cost of your location.
The above example price of Avalon at 2.4Btc and antminer at 2.6btc, it's 0.2 price difference and the
electricity cost difference for 6months would exceeds 0.2 btc at current rate so i vote for antminer.
But the avalon price is going down and there're some sellers at 2.1~2.2btc eventhough i'm not sure
if the resellers are legit. If the price difference is more than 0.4~5 then i would choose avalon.
You also need to consider the delivery time on both products and there're more avalon resellers so you would have better chance to purchase avalon from existing stock for fast delivery. In this case,
it may be better to purchase avalon in stock and start mining faster.
Avalon seems easier to fix by just replacing parts but don't count on me on this because i only run several avalons and haven't received my antminer order yet.
In overall, both products are good choice now until tera hash miners launch in the market at decent price i think.
It seems like that either one of these devices is the best choice for a none preorder, with decent hashing power, but the big question which one is better?
Avalons: (2.4BTC or 2100$)
1000W PSU to run 2 boards
Loud enough to be a pain
44 lb (20 kg) case
Antminer: (2.6BTC)
Destroy a PSU power cord
Has anyone heard any other bad things about either one of these devices? Lets start a healthy debate.
Avalons: (2.4BTC or 2100$)
1000W PSU to run 2 boards
Loud enough to be a pain
44 lb (20 kg) case
Antminer: (2.6BTC)
Destroy a PSU power cord
Has anyone heard any other bad things about either one of these devices? Lets start a healthy debate.
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