and the friggin bribing to make a PCB.. just hire BKKcoins and be done with it
bkk? last active september 30th, he has given up for sure.
Topic: Avalon Gen2 (Read 1917 times)
bkk? last active september 30th, he has given up for sure.
I am surprised avalon is still around...weren't the triads after them or something....
*yawn*
*yawn*
and the friggin bribing to make a PCB.. just hire BKKcoins and be done with it
What I find odd are the specs...
Specifically:
How is that possible? Did Avalon integrate a second core on their chip?
That would be about...240Watts per module....or about 1KW for a 4 module assembly. About twice that of the current generations. (Though admittedly, probably not that bad for 55nm)
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Generation 2 Chips
As expected, their 2nd generation chips will be created using a 55nm process and utilize the same packaging as their first generation 110nm chips, with small changes to padding but the same communications protocol. Although this constrained their design options, it will enable full backward compatibility with PCBs developed for their first generation chips. The new chips are seeing typical performance of 1 GH/s at 500Mhz, however they’re expected to overclock to 1.5 GH/s per chip at 3W (2 W/GHs). Generation 1 chips were originally clocked at 256Mhz, however they were able to run stable overclocked at 400Mhz. It would be reasonable to expect similar overhead in Generation 2 chips.
BitSyncom expects to receive products in late October or early November and will begin sales when they have inventory in their warehouse. Their fully assembled units are estimated to run at 250 GH/s and will be housed in 2U server racks. Bulk chips sales will also be available and will be offered a discounted rate for customers that were affected by Generation 1 delays.
As expected, their 2nd generation chips will be created using a 55nm process and utilize the same packaging as their first generation 110nm chips, with small changes to padding but the same communications protocol. Although this constrained their design options, it will enable full backward compatibility with PCBs developed for their first generation chips. The new chips are seeing typical performance of 1 GH/s at 500Mhz, however they’re expected to overclock to 1.5 GH/s per chip at 3W (2 W/GHs). Generation 1 chips were originally clocked at 256Mhz, however they were able to run stable overclocked at 400Mhz. It would be reasonable to expect similar overhead in Generation 2 chips.
BitSyncom expects to receive products in late October or early November and will begin sales when they have inventory in their warehouse. Their fully assembled units are estimated to run at 250 GH/s and will be housed in 2U server racks. Bulk chips sales will also be available and will be offered a discounted rate for customers that were affected by Generation 1 delays.
Specifically:
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"The new chips are seeing typical performance of 1 GH/s at 500Mhz[....]"
How is that possible? Did Avalon integrate a second core on their chip?
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["...]however they’re expected to overclock to 1.5 GH/s per chip at 3W (2 W/GHs)"
That would be about...240Watts per module....or about 1KW for a 4 module assembly. About twice that of the current generations. (Though admittedly, probably not that bad for 55nm)
Way to much power draw compared to what is coming very soon 
Stick em up your ass Y I FU & then sell em to your homies in China!!!!!!!!!!! 
UNLESS..........250GH goes for $100
What I find odd are the specs...
Specifically:
How is that possible? Did Avalon integrate a second core on their chip?
That would be about...240Watts per module....or about 1KW for a 4 module assembly. About twice that of the current generations. (Though admittedly, probably not that bad for 55nm)
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Generation 2 Chips
As expected, their 2nd generation chips will be created using a 55nm process and utilize the same packaging as their first generation 110nm chips, with small changes to padding but the same communications protocol. Although this constrained their design options, it will enable full backward compatibility with PCBs developed for their first generation chips. The new chips are seeing typical performance of 1 GH/s at 500Mhz, however they’re expected to overclock to 1.5 GH/s per chip at 3W (2 W/GHs). Generation 1 chips were originally clocked at 256Mhz, however they were able to run stable overclocked at 400Mhz. It would be reasonable to expect similar overhead in Generation 2 chips.
BitSyncom expects to receive products in late October or early November and will begin sales when they have inventory in their warehouse. Their fully assembled units are estimated to run at 250 GH/s and will be housed in 2U server racks. Bulk chips sales will also be available and will be offered a discounted rate for customers that were affected by Generation 1 delays.
As expected, their 2nd generation chips will be created using a 55nm process and utilize the same packaging as their first generation 110nm chips, with small changes to padding but the same communications protocol. Although this constrained their design options, it will enable full backward compatibility with PCBs developed for their first generation chips. The new chips are seeing typical performance of 1 GH/s at 500Mhz, however they’re expected to overclock to 1.5 GH/s per chip at 3W (2 W/GHs). Generation 1 chips were originally clocked at 256Mhz, however they were able to run stable overclocked at 400Mhz. It would be reasonable to expect similar overhead in Generation 2 chips.
BitSyncom expects to receive products in late October or early November and will begin sales when they have inventory in their warehouse. Their fully assembled units are estimated to run at 250 GH/s and will be housed in 2U server racks. Bulk chips sales will also be available and will be offered a discounted rate for customers that were affected by Generation 1 delays.
Specifically:
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"The new chips are seeing typical performance of 1 GH/s at 500Mhz[....]"
How is that possible? Did Avalon integrate a second core on their chip?
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["...]however they’re expected to overclock to 1.5 GH/s per chip at 3W (2 W/GHs)"
That would be about...240Watts per module....or about 1KW for a 4 module assembly. About twice that of the current generations. (Though admittedly, probably not that bad for 55nm)
By the way, what is the point of selling off gen 2 chips if they haven't sold of gen 1 chips?
It wouldn't make much sense. The sale of Gen 2 chips before Gen 1 chips are "given away" would only depreciate the price of Gen 1 chips even further...
My best guess is that photo's of the gen 2 Avalons will show up as well as the sale of Gen 1 goes live (though to me that doesn't make much sense...either).
I also assume the 2 module Avalon (Gen 2) will be 3x to 7x more powerful (hashing wise) than the original modules at probably 2 watts per GH/s.
3 x 300Mh/s = 900 Mh/s
or
7 x 300Mh/s = 2.1 Gh/s
1 module has 10 x 8 = 80 chips (if I recall correctly)
So the new module should be anywhere from 72Gh/s to 168Gh/s.
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If so, then a 2 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 144 Gh/s to 336 Gh/s.
A 3 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 216 Gh/s to 504 Gh/s.
A 4 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 288 Gh/s to 672 Gh/s.
Actual Stock values were a little higher than my low end prediction.It wouldn't make much sense. The sale of Gen 2 chips before Gen 1 chips are "given away" would only depreciate the price of Gen 1 chips even further...
My best guess is that photo's of the gen 2 Avalons will show up as well as the sale of Gen 1 goes live (though to me that doesn't make much sense...either).
I also assume the 2 module Avalon (Gen 2) will be 3x to 7x more powerful (hashing wise) than the original modules at probably 2 watts per GH/s.
3 x 300Mh/s = 900 Mh/s
or
7 x 300Mh/s = 2.1 Gh/s
1 module has 10 x 8 = 80 chips (if I recall correctly)
So the new module should be anywhere from 72Gh/s to 168Gh/s.
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If so, then a 2 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 144 Gh/s to 336 Gh/s.
A 3 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 216 Gh/s to 504 Gh/s.
A 4 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 288 Gh/s to 672 Gh/s.
4 x 300Mh/s = 1.2Gh/s~
62Gh/s per module.
2 watts per Gh/s
Unless it's <5$/Gh they can shove it up their arse!
2 threads already 
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250GH seem small. Even if there is over clocking ability. Agree with the previous post would have to be dirt cheap for the risk involved
avalon shipped first but it appears they ruined their reputation. whatever they make would have to be dirt cheap
with very little profit to sell well. and at that point they might as well just mine themselves.
with very little profit to sell well. and at that point they might as well just mine themselves.
2 W/GHs is a lot. The only advantage might be these will be send immediatelly (hopefully )
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Bitfury is 3x more efficient. Avalon = SLAPPED
bitfury has been there done that.
no one likes avalon at all at this point. They have to sell hardware using tradehill
no one likes avalon at all at this point. They have to sell hardware using tradehill
55nm is SO August! 
Is there still no thread about it?
http://thegenesisblock.com/avalon-announces-gen2-specs-7-5-ths-prize-open-source-board-design/
http://thegenesisblock.com/avalon-announces-gen2-specs-7-5-ths-prize-open-source-board-design/
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The new chips are seeing typical performance of 1 GH/s at 500Mhz, however they’re expected to overclock to 1.5 GH/s per chip at 3W (2 W/GHs).
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