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September 07, 2020, 03:32:54 PM
#43
Seems the project is LITERALLY more superior to....well....looks like EVERYTHING lol

Vitalik.... and I quote "3rd niche"

That's really all I need to know

AVAX for the win vs Cardano Cool
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September 06, 2020, 12:00:51 PM
#42
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.

ADA does have a bit of the head start but I think AVAX is going to be a pretty amazing addition to the crypto world too.
I agree do not buy the IOU tokens they are good for short term trade but as soon as real token launches the IOU AVAX will drop like crazy.



The AVAX IOU become real AVAX at launch
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September 06, 2020, 04:13:59 AM
#41
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.

ADA does have a bit of the head start but I think AVAX is going to be a pretty amazing addition to the crypto world too.
I agree do not buy the IOU tokens they are good for short term trade but as soon as real token launches the IOU AVAX will drop like crazy.
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September 06, 2020, 02:32:31 AM
#40
It will pass Cardano pretty much immediately
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August 14, 2020, 07:55:29 PM
#39
I am just knowing about AVAX, it is among the top coins on coinmarketcap? What is the rank? When was it developed? There is no much information about it on coinmarketcap which shows it is still new or an upcoming project. Now, how can an upcoming project be compared with a project like Cardano which has been around for a very long time whose team are always looking for ways to improve on the services of the platform. It is easy for most new projects to challenge major ones when in reality they don't have what it takes to even challenge them.

AVAX is relatively new project. they raised huge money last month during their sale the reason why a lot are talking about this project. but i dont think it is fair to compare with established platform like cardano. AVAX maybe a promising one but we need to see first if they can implement their objectives here. you cant blame people when they talk about the new guy in the block because some of them invested on this new project, so creating some sort of commotion in the market is just natural for them.
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August 14, 2020, 07:53:32 PM
#38
personally i am prefer to hold cardano than avax, i didnt see on these price and how much money they collected in ICO. but i they their developer team work , and this moment i see cardano team better in their work to produce good product. cardano already exist for long time in crypto market and they prove alot as good project. Avax need time to said as best project to hold, let them work and deliver good product for us.
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August 14, 2020, 07:44:36 PM
#37
I am just knowing about AVAX, it is among the top coins on coinmarketcap? What is the rank? When was it developed? There is no much information about it on coinmarketcap which shows it is still new or an upcoming project. Now, how can an upcoming project be compared with a project like Cardano which has been around for a very long time whose team are always looking for ways to improve on the services of the platform. It is easy for most new projects to challenge major ones when in reality they don't have what it takes to even challenge them.
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August 14, 2020, 05:58:21 PM
#36
Do you mean this one? https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/avalanche/?
Well, I personally not really know what the positive sides of this project AVAX.
But, I will always prefer to the top coin that has certain value and also volume in the market. I think that it is safer to hold. Morevern ADA includes in top 10, it is good, isn't it?
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August 14, 2020, 05:05:53 PM
#35
about the AVAX project

If we look at the current history of AVAX, it was very successful in the ICO sales period. Even the media said that ICO tokens were sold in 4.5 hours 42 million dollars. I think this is the greatest thing, when the name of the ICO is getting worse.
While Cardano is a popular name, and was also born during the popularity of crypto. And Cardano is also part of the most successful coins.
But we will see what about AVAX going forward.
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July 31, 2020, 08:41:53 AM
#34
But fair enough, well it's really hard to put conclusion without witnessing the results yet so keep on believing and good luck Grin. But as far as I'm concern, no doubt that Cardano is on the advantage side since it already prove its worth to us.
I agree. Cardano is a solid project and proven its worth all these years. I know the hype of avax is in the air and got a lot of talks on social media. But they should test the water first, for OP, that is too much match up. Its like giant versus ant what you paired here, based on experience. Avax should be match on new project like polkadot at least, anyhow those two are rigging each other already but since avax mainnet still not yet launch better we watch how it unveils but comparing the two, Im definitely with ada.
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July 31, 2020, 07:58:46 AM
#33
Cardano team should know that Avalanche is capable of defeating them, the reason why I said this is because Avalanche teams are complete blockchain professionals, it's possible for this project to become top 10 in just few months, let's wait and see
Hmmm, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I think you are putting too much hope on this new project. There's nothing wrong of being confident as long as good decision making isn't compromised. I'm just worrying that you might spend out of your budget to hoard AVAX. Guard your heart dude because we all know that aiming to become highly ranked token seems impossible nowadays (what more within just 10 months lol). You know, it's very hard to shine within a bunch of new competitors in the market.

But fair enough, well it's really hard to put conclusion without witnessing the results yet so keep on believing and good luck Grin. But as far as I'm concern, no doubt that Cardano is on the advantage side since it already prove its worth to us.
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July 31, 2020, 07:33:49 AM
#32
These AVAX-IOU-Tokens are all from scammy exchanges. Just wait until it is officially listed at an exchange (hopefully) by the end of August.

Right now there is still the opportunity to earn some AVAX in their HUB.

Just take a look: https://community.avax.network/

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July 29, 2020, 02:43:07 AM
#31
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.

Well, if I am gonna choose between of this two, of course I would rather to pick ADA, because no doubt and 100% that Cardano has a potential to increase in the future where it will give us a good and big profit if We buy now at large amount. Because in AVAX is too far from the roadmap of ADA, based on what I knew about it.
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July 29, 2020, 02:15:55 AM
#30
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
It was offering the same idea like what have already offered by bunch of platforms that exist in the market. I personally will not try to pick this coin, AVA has no the same potential as a coin that has entered top 10 CMC. Did you know that? ADA didn't get a lot of demand on its product.
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July 28, 2020, 04:29:15 PM
#29
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
AVAX is a project that holds potential and is based upon unique idea of delivering real world applications. Its an open-source platform which is being designed to launch highly decentralized applications, new financial primitives and new interoperable blockchains. In the long term, I can see this project going places.

But, if we talk about the current scenario, Cardano is a well-established project in the market is highly advanced in terms of technology and is delivering a working product. The two projects have their own ups and downs and cannot really be compared but at this moment, I would like to put my faith in ADA.
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July 28, 2020, 12:26:54 PM
#28
Hello all you can buy with bank card and sepa transert IOU on https://zebitex.com/
sr. member
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July 28, 2020, 01:33:02 AM
#27
Looks like AVAX  will supposedly launch the token sale today but unfortunately postponed;

We’re preparing for the rescheduled AVAX sale for 10 a.m. ET next Wednesday, when we will bring an end to the wait for tokens. We’re very appreciative of our community’s patience and support.

I must say they have a great platform introduced to the crypto community. But IMO, I'd still rather go with ADA coin and will just observe how IOU coin will perform with upcoming days. If they'll gonna stick with their complex  protocols, then we will see.
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July 27, 2020, 02:29:29 PM
#26
Although, AVA labs has given a broad description on what the project is based on along with necessary documentation, key features and roadmap. You can visit the official website (if you haven’t already) given below for more information: https://www.avalabs.org
I have checked the official website before posting my reply here which was only based on what op asked for. I wasn't intended to check whether the info outside official website is fake or not. Whatever, coinmarketcap just listed the project with missing information as it's yet in ICO stage.
After reading the comments below my own, i became interested in this AVA Labs as it looks really promising. And as i mentioned before, CARDANO is already in position, so not yet to be compared with AVA startup .
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July 27, 2020, 11:41:51 AM
#25
By searching for AVAX project, the only one i found is still under developement according to coinmarketcap.
Then by checkin the two websites mentioned in the cmc page for AVAX, the first one describe the project which seems to be promising but as it still in primary developement phase, we can't yet compare it to Cardano. The second website provides info about the tokensale which is actually running till July 29th, so you didn't miss the ICO and you can still join it[1].
However, you made me confused by mentioning that you won't buy the IOU token for 6$; the IOU token i found in cmc has nothing related to AVAX project and the price is at 0,010713 USD with Zero volume trade. Please explain.
I trust coinmarketcap only for prices, volume, market cap and charts. For project related information, I trust external source and the official website and articles/press releases. AVAX project just has its ICO sale and is of course under development. You cannot expect a working project just after a few days of the fund raising.

Although, AVA labs has given a broad description on what the project is based on along with necessary documentation, key features and roadmap. You can visit the official website (if you haven’t already) given below for more information: https://www.avalabs.org
Moreover, I agree with the fact that AVAX is still on the initial development stage and cannot be compared to ADA in any aspect.
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July 26, 2020, 05:00:02 PM
#24
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
Avalanche Blockchain project is becoming a good topic for huge funds rise. CARDANO is already in position. Why do you have to leave this coin? Don't buy this coin until you listed any top exchange. Wait for development process, cryptocurrency is in good condition, funds rise isn't enough for new project.
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July 26, 2020, 04:30:57 PM
#23
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
the first one I would like to congratulate you on because the ADA price went up before hardfork, but be careful after hardfork,
and the second for Cardano to date there are still no good projects besides Cardano for the same category, so AVAX is not a competitor

Thank you:) Although it's long term project so I'll try not to be verifying the price too frequently...
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July 26, 2020, 11:55:42 AM
#22
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
the first one I would like to congratulate you on because the ADA price went up before hardfork, but be careful after hardfork,
and the second for Cardano to date there are still no good projects besides Cardano for the same category, so AVAX is not a competitor
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July 26, 2020, 11:36:30 AM
#21
of course I prefer the cardano project (ADA) because in my opinion this project is clearer than the AVAX project which is not clear and has no concept that can provide solutions for many people because actually coins will have a price when there are people who need it so that there are people who buy and make the price go up.
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July 26, 2020, 11:32:22 AM
#20
For cardano, we all know it, the potential coin for long term, which has so many exchanges bring very good technology.
And what about avax?? this is unfamiliar and when i try search it in coinmarketcap this project is untracked coinmarketcap.com/currencies/avalanche/
So both cannot be compared, cardano win for all things
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July 26, 2020, 10:08:38 AM
#19
We can't compare them of course because they're on the same level. But we can look for as an example what can AVAX (sometimes they call it AVA, and I don't like it, it sounds like ADA) potentially do as a project that Cardano is not projecting to do. This is basically my question, but I don't have the answer yet.
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July 26, 2020, 06:25:56 AM
#18
Cardano is officially part of the top 10 cryptocurrencies in the world. And for Avax, is it this coin?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/avalanche/

this two cannot be compared at the moment, or within foreseeable future, since one is established and reputable project, and the other is just after ICO, with no product at all, could be promising, but then compare it with promising projects, not with established ones, would not say that AVAX will not be successful, but it has a long way to go before it can be compared with ADA, or some other top 10-20 project
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July 26, 2020, 06:18:46 AM
#17
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
Ofcourse we are not buying  the IOU at 6 dollar,  i also missed the ico , but think that price on exchange will be much better, seems as a realy solid project
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July 26, 2020, 05:09:20 AM
#16
AVAX is seems to be a new project, it's on IOU now as listed in https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/avalanche-iou...
I remember this kind of IOU projects in the past, usually the price will fall once listed in exchange.

Now, you are saving vs, so you like to compare Cardano on AVAX, I think AVAX has to prove it's a worthy project first, ADA is already proven, it's liquid since it's listed in different liquid exchanges and it has a lot of supporters as well, so I will choose, I won't take changes on the new one.
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July 26, 2020, 03:27:03 AM
#15
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.

I am a long time holder of ADA as well but I think AVAX is also going to be one of the big projects in the crypto space but, I won't suggest you buy the IOU tokens because buying them is bit risky and the prices are usually heavily manipulated by exchanges.
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July 26, 2020, 03:17:01 AM
#14
AVAX has potential. Cardano has potential. Both are in demand because of the expectation that they will fulfill that potential.
But we have to also remember that Ethereum has a huge huge first mover advantage. And we have to remember that crypto projects don't stand still, and are under constant development. Whilst these two coins do look good, don't forget that the leader is still in the lead, and shows no signs of relinquishing that position.
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July 26, 2020, 03:06:32 AM
#13
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.

Why will you even think of comparing a project that just finished ICO with one that has been in the space for quite a long time, it's not wise. Cardano has been progressively developing their project over time and then a good project (Avalanche) just pops up recently, then you start comparing both? Let's see how well the project does with development before any comparison.

Just because they did well in ICO, a lot of people are hoping for big for AVAX. But we can't blame them especially if they are investors. So if you are one of those, you need to closely follow their developments and assess if they do have the chance to compete with Cardano. But right now, you can't compare them yet.
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July 26, 2020, 02:57:41 AM
#12
Noname project VS top CMC project hmm what to choose hmm
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July 26, 2020, 02:21:59 AM
#11
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.

Why will you even think of comparing a project that just finished ICO with one that has been in the space for quite a long time, it's not wise. Cardano has been progressively developing their project over time and then a good project (Avalanche) just pops up recently, then you start comparing both? Let's see how well the project does with development before any comparison.
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July 26, 2020, 01:28:56 AM
#11
because Avalanche teams are complete blockchain professionals,


What an argument you have. So you think that Charles Hoskinson, the founder of Cardano and one of the major developers of ethereum is not professional? And what about dozens of academics who are researching and  developing it right now?
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July 25, 2020, 04:51:12 PM
#10


If an exchange offers IOU for AVAX token would you be buying?

Although predictions says its going to be more than $200, you might wanna see to it when the markets open it for trading. $6 is cheap but you are not sure how much it could drop since AVA hasn;t yet release their product.  AVA is a very advance project which aims to unify all trading assets including the the ones from other markets like the commodity, stocks in one platform AVA. I have read about this when they were searching of ambassador here in bitcointalk.
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July 25, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
#9
Ava is a good project and from what I read its tech is even better than the coming Ethereum 2.0, it is left for the market to decide on its price. I think what would affect the project is the way they go about their ICO, the team got greedy and increased the cap and majority if the tokens is going to seed investors and early investors so if they decide to start dumping on the market it is a bad start

I hope so. I've already bet on Cardano. But the thing is I've seen no one compare the 2 from their perspective. I don't see them offer things that Cardano can't offer. Perhaps more security since the attack you need to destabilise the system is an 80% attack and not 51% attack.
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July 25, 2020, 03:35:39 PM
#8
Ava is a good project and from what I read its tech is even better than the coming Ethereum 2.0, it is left for the market to decide on its price. I think what would affect the project is the way they go about their ICO, the team got greedy and increased the cap and majority if the tokens is going to seed investors and early investors so if they decide to start dumping on the market it is a bad start
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July 25, 2020, 03:20:15 PM
#7
Thks for everyone who participated.
Yeah I think we should wait and see but it was definitely something I would have invested in if I knew what it was all about and who was behind it.
What I meant by the AVAX (Avalanche) IOU was this: https://www.coingecko.com/fr/pièces/avalanche-iou

IOU="I owe you", some people who bought the ICO can sell them to other people without actually transferring the token to them, and then transfer it when the blockchain becomes functional
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July 25, 2020, 02:52:32 PM
#6
Cardano team should know that Avalanche is capable of defeating them, the reason why I said this is because Avalanche teams are complete blockchain professionals, it's possible for this project to become top 10 in just few months, let's wait and see
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July 25, 2020, 02:41:54 PM
#5
Cardano is officially part of the top 10 cryptocurrencies in the world. And for Avax, is it this coin?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/avalanche/
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July 25, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
#4
actually running till July 29th[/url], so you didn't miss the ICO and you can still join it[1].
Actually he did missed it. Maybe that's why he mentioned it. Avax main ICO was last July 15th, 2020 but the site experienced a bot attack resulting to its postponed and move to a later date of July 22-29,2020. However the token sale ended in 4.5 hours ( got lucky I got some) here is the summarize of the concluded Public sales

However, you made me confused by mentioning that you won't buy the IOU token for 6$
He meant probably was the token traded is not the real so he wont mind buying it. The team confirms its fake and just an IOU.


Too soon for comparison, with Ada but probably many will still bet for it, against AVAX, no wonder but I found potential with their tech, so I joined their tokensale.

Too early to tell and compare these 2 projects. ADA has come a long way already.
So AVAX has a lot of things to catch up before we can say that AVAX is a tough competitor of ADA.
And considering that ADA is in the upward motion for almost couple of months now and seems there's no stopping at the moment.
But then again, competition in the market is good for the users. Devs will do their best to cater their clients.
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July 25, 2020, 11:00:56 AM
#3
actually running till July 29th[/url], so you didn't miss the ICO and you can still join it[1].
Actually he did missed it. Maybe that's why he mentioned it. Avax main ICO was last July 15th, 2020 but the site experienced a bot attack resulting to its postponed and move to a later date of July 22-29,2020. However the token sale ended in 4.5 hours ( got lucky I got some) here is the summarize of the concluded Public sales

However, you made me confused by mentioning that you won't buy the IOU token for 6$
He meant probably was the token traded is not the real so he wont mind buying it. The team confirms its fake and just an IOU.


Too soon for comparison, with Ada but probably many will still bet for it, against AVAX, no wonder but I found potential with their tech, so I joined their tokensale.
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July 25, 2020, 09:54:53 AM
#2
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
By searching for AVAX project, the only one i found is still under developement according to coinmarketcap.
Then by checkin the two websites mentioned in the cmc page for AVAX, the first one describe the project which seems to be promising but as it still in primary developement phase, we can't yet compare it to Cardano. The second website provides info about the tokensale which is actually running till July 29th, so you didn't miss the ICO and you can still join it[1].
However, you made me confused by mentioning that you won't buy the IOU token for 6$; the IOU token i found in cmc has nothing related to AVAX project and the price is at 0,010713 USD with Zero volume trade. Please explain.

[1] This is not an advice to join the AVAX tokensale. I am just sharing the result of my researches for op. DYOR before joining or join at your own risk.
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July 25, 2020, 09:27:39 AM
#1
Hello everybody,
I am an ADA fan and will be holding it for a long time. I don't think, in my opinion, other smart contract cryptos will be able to compete with it, but it's only my opinion.
Although I've heard recently about the AVAX project that seems a little bit interesting to me (I missed the ICO). Has anyone compared the 2? I basically find it interesting but I am definitely not buying the IOU at 6 dollars right now.
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