Topic: Average crypto futures trader monthly salary is 9000$-30,000$ (Read 587 times)

OP, you're just calculating profits. why don't you count the losses too? how much capital is used to get the profit you are talking about?

Futures trading is very risky. I'm sure not many use big money to trade futures,
when large amounts of money are at stake on futures trades, the market can be manipulated by whales to make traders lose.

There are a great deal of qualities which are necessary to become a good trader, and one of the most basic ones is the ability to set yourself goals that you can actually reach, many times when I read the goals that people set themselves not only in this market but in life in general you can see that it is going to be almost impossible for them to reach them, so they are setting themselves for failure before they even begin their journey, so if a trader wants to be successful the first thing they need to find out is how much money they can realistically expect to make if they become traders, and obviously making as much money as the OP implies is simply out of the question.

How did you end up with this percentage without giving us decent proof. I don't believe in such a huge profit in trading especially if its futures. There is no guaranteed profit in trading whatever time frame it is. Futures trading is a very risky career and no one would risk their job just to focus on it. Being a successful trader doesn't only require to be good in reading charts and candlesticks, it also needs some strong discipline which not everyone can achieve.

When there is nothing at stake it is easy to make perfect trade after perfect trade, but it is when your savings are on the line when we can see the differences between the good traders and the bad traders, in a way this is similar to what we see in sports in which  the difference between the star players and those which are very good is the ability of the star players to increase their level when championships are on the line, while those which are simply good keep it at the same level or it even goes down as the pressure increases.

We don't need to have that promising price just to encourage traders and choose futures trading, but what we need is the reality behind this risky choice. I didn't mean ruining the mindset for those who want to earn more and do trading but it was best to know the reality about this, and it was impossible for beginners. maybe you are right about the $9,000 earning amount for the average traders as it was possible but if we talk about earning $30,000, nobody will able to believe it.

30k USD a month? No way you are pulling such kind of profits consistently over a long period of time. If you do please share some actual proof and good for you. I am not jealous if this is reality, just a little cautious when it comes to claims about making money online. Futures is trading is a very risky business, you are trading with leverage and you profits can be really huge, but so can your losses. The first time I traded futures with a friend in university, we lost several thousand USD in less than a week, it took years to recover from that. It also depends on how much money you actually have to invest it. For margin payments you need at least 20k USD in capital to start with. Making 9k+ USD from 20k in a month seems to high in my opinion, or maybe you run a very risky strategy and became lucky.

Making $5 or $10 a day is nothing like making $1000 or $10000. You cannot compare the two. Most people won’t be sweating when they are down $5 in a day while they would if they were down $1000. This is why you shouldn’t demo trade or trade small positions because it’s easy making money.

You just hold your trades longer and most likely the trade will work out. But when you got 4 or 5 figures on the line then the game completely changes. So this is why many lose money when they go from demo to live trading.

I will say that Future trading is high risk but high turn. Yes, it may give you very high profits because you can get multiple profits from only a few amounts of capital in Future trading. But on the other hand, trading in the future may also have very high risks, so you can lose all your money very easily only in a short time. That is why it is high risk.
But, what I always think and tell to people around me is that "never trade in the Future market if you know nothing about this or only follow the signal".
People need to learn seriously, and we need to learn several aspects of trading future, not only about buying low and selling high, but how the position is created, the market prediction, and also another strategy. And this is not easy, man.
Tat is why if we are new to the crypto industry or we are nto familiar with this,it is aetter to avoid, better than you are only gambling on it.

I'm just giving advice to newbies and all, I myself have traded in futures trading, indeed 1 day we can get $ 5 even $ 10,
as long as we know how to trade, but the profit and capital that I got a few days it just disappeared in the future,
Because of what? because it is greedy and indeed the market is very volatile, I am sure it will also happen to you if you are determined to trade in futures market

Its not big world is full of money.
U think urself too low.
What tax ? 30k is pocket money u cant even buy house of this money.
Life is expensive 9 k is even low nowdays.

I give for example: go to london holland park nice houses apartments...the realtor dealer there said people have those even with no mortgage.
U c world is a full of unwanted money

This guy always amazes me with his posts. They are always without sources, without any logic and without any second thoughts. Now what the hell he is talking about here? 9k was fine but the upper limit is 30k per month and that’s insane salary and moreover you can also attract sweet raid from income tax revenue department. They would be amazed to see this much income from individual person every month just from trading.
I highly doubt that anyone can go this big. This would need team of 3-5 pees for sure and that too with experts.

Trading in general is very unprofitable, people are always dreaming about all the profits that they are going to make and how easy are going to be their lives from now on but it seems that it never crosses their mind the possibility that they are going to lose money, something that I find incredible because the vast majority of traders lose money, so how is it possible that they never think about that possibility when that is the most likely outcome?

Could you tell me if you've quit your job and started trading futures? Or it's possible that you're only seeing the marketing channels in telegram groups.

Futures trading is a form that people advise to stay away from because they carry a lot of risk and not everyone can make money from trading futures.
I am not saying that no one can generate the income you offer, but only a few do and most of the rest suffer huge losses from trading futures.

I'm sure there's no actual source of this futures salary. There are no sure profit in futures and monthly, there are says where traders are getting liquidated because of heavy red candle stick spike. Though it's possible that we can make a living trading in futures but it's not assured for anyone even hiring a professional trader to get a massive profits everytime in a month. 30k is just unreal.

There would be no precise number or percentages and its true that futures trading isnt something that everyone could able to bare the risk with which it would be that understandable that lots are been

liquidated and lost up or blown up their accounts even experienced or professional traders doesnt really ensure nor assure their profitability towards futures trading.I dont know on where he did get those

numbers but it is really that understandable that those numbers cant really be fixed whether you do earn more than with those or would be less than.It will vary on someones actions since
not all are really on the same level so results wont really be the same most of the time.

i really can't believe it!, do you have any proof that trading futures is better?, 2000 - 3000% per month that's a very crazy thing,
that's why i don't believe it, a lot of traders are liquidated today, and it proves that no trader who can make such a profit!

Of course, to become a good trader you must have some famous signs. But if you don't have any good signs you can't trade on the trading platform.However, trading on futures trading platforms is more of a risk that no one wants to take.I have personally seen that I have lost more than I have profited by trading futures.

Do you make these many profits? Or just blabbering out of thin air?
If trading was so quick money, then I bet each and every person would have been doing trading right now.
Yes trading is profitable, but that will hardly make 1000$ per month on an average. Also the profit depends on the base amount also.
Moreover if the profits are high, then the risk factors invest also might be high. So trading here becomes like gambling and we need to be careful while choosing the coins.

You didn't provide any link or proof to support your position. There are factors that determines how much average that traders profit on in a month and one of it is the risk ratio or rate of the trader. So if trader A's appetite is different from B's own , they won't have same amount of profit therefore it all varies. What this means is when A puts a trade with very high risk for high profit and B goes for lower risk for lower profit, there profit or lose margin can not be the same.

The success rate also is another of the factor in consideration. If the winning rate to a trade is higher for one trader and lower with the other trade, you won't have a verifiable results.
So except you have a proof on the survey you made the information you made looks not proven.

Future trading is very risky, taking this is somewhat a suicide if you never know about trading. We can really see the figure is huge but think about if this really happens for all futures traders. Doubted yes, and that was because even in spot trading it is hard to get that amount monthly as an average trader, how much more if you are in futures trading? I'd expect more losses rather than earning a good amount unless you are doing this for many years and called yourself an expert.

I agree.

Futures trading is not gonna give you a fixed salary, that's why you never know what you're income per month. Sometimes it is big, sometimes it is small, sometimes none at all. Trading is not like the typical jobs we have in the real world that has a fixed salary per month, but at least you're sure that you're gonna receive it if you're gonna work everyday.

Also, in order to become an average trader, I think you need 2-3 years of continuous learning about trading (correct me if I'm wrong).

For sure there are people who do able to pull off and end up on being sustainable on dealing with future trading and lots have tried but lots had blown up their accounts which it isnt surprising.
I dont know on where you do get those numbers from considering that profitability will really be varying or depending on several factors like on how much capital you had used on?
What leverage you are using? Daily % hit limit or goal?

There's no exact numbers i would say but the potential is there.If you do set out these kind of goal percentage then it would really be depending on you.

That was huge and it is really encouraging but unfortunately, not all traders have got that monthly income. Have to imagine how long they got into that level and we are talking about future trading which is not for everyone. So I think those numbers are somewhat a manipulative value that could make us think trading is profitable. Yes, it was profitable but can't just think we can make that amount too easily, that certainly needs hard work.

Remember, futures trading is not for all. You can easily be liquidated if you don't know what you're doing.
Yes, you can earn huge but it depends on your strategy and the coins you are trading with.
The OP didn't explain much, so hopefully, it won't give false hope to newcomers in crypto.
They need to learn at least the spot trading first before going into futures.

2k to 3k percent of profit sounds to good to be true already but a 9k or more profit still looks realistic IMO although it wasn't guaranteed that every month they can get the same amount because cryptos are volatile. Sometimes they can get lower or higher than that.

A 2k percent return is I think more possible for long term investors especially if they invest on a new and cheap coin and then it booms after some time but anyway, other than instability in trading, it is also hard for some and that is the reason why they look for other jobs which can suit better for them. If they will insist their selves on it, not only they will waste their time but also they can waste a lot of money.

True, I mean someone that could earn 2000% to 3000% consistently as the OP claims could become rich even with a starting capital of one dollar, if we assume the lowest range which is 2000% and a capital of one dollar on the first month our trader will make 20 dollars then 400, 8k, 160k and 3.2 million, so in a matter of 5 months a futures trader reaching those percentages will become a millionaire, however this small mental exercise should show why it is not possible.

Bro I have some confusion about your point what is the main point. It's really unpredictable that you can earn huge amount with future trading. First thing you should aware about future trading and depends how much you will take leverage. So  large leverage will liquidate frequently if you doesn't know about future trading. And you can earn huge profit as a monthly if you have make a strategy in trading and make handsome profit in a month even that as a weekly

As the matter seems simple in your words, actually the matter is not that simple. I myself have seen many such cases in front of my eyes a friend of mine played his 2000$ loss. I will not call trading as gambling but I will call future trading as equivalent to gambling because here you have to make predictions in advance and then take short or long trades. The biggest risk in futures trading is that it is very foolish to invest without knowing it. For beginners, I would say that if you want to start trading, start with spot trading. Don't get overwhelmed by the words here but yes if luck is good or if the analysis i slike pro then maybe income will be good but it is very risky.

Instead of talking about the value in dollars, the value of the changes is the most important. For example, a person may invest in the amount of one hundred thousand dollars and even, even simple changes such as an increase of 30% means a lot against a person who appeared in a small trading amount, and so the money and changes mean a lot of money.

also some one can buy ETH at 100 dollar and staking them with 30k return per month

It is not impossible for professional traders to earn big while trading derivatives, but earning 2000 to 3000% means it is gambling, professional traders have different strategies they go for before they trade at all, increasing leverage are often done by beginner traders, not professionals, that is why they have close price liquidation range and their money get liquidated as usual. If anyone follow what is in the OP, the oerson will only end up losing.

What you earn from crypto depends on how much you invest. One can't be investing $100 and expect to make such outrageous stats of earnings from trading. Perhaps be it spot trading or futures what gives the trader their profit is how good they are with their analysis and how disciplined they are with emotions and greed. There is no fixed about a trader earns everything depends on capital and take profit

Before I clicked the topic I was expecting a link to some scam product which promotes some trading course. However what I read doesn't really make any sense.

People who trade futures aren't on a salary. Their job is mostly performance based. If they trade poorly they don't get any money. If they have a good month then they might get a bonus. However I haven't heard of any future trader who gets paid hourly.

Don't understand the reason for this post to be honest. No idea what he is trying to promote.

In fact the average profit must be negative, it is widely known that trading is a zero-sum game so in order for a trader to earn any money someone else has to lose it, however the reality is that exchanges charge you fees for trading, so assuming we have 2 traders with 100 dollars each as their capital and the first trader obtained the whole capital of the second trader they will still not have 200 dollars as their capital, and instead they'll have slightly less because of the fees they have to pay, making the average profit of each trader negative.

Trading isn't easy making money, everything turns crucial if you don't have knowledge of it. 
OP might be misleading those greedy people who thought that it's easy to make money in trading either of what strategies you've used. 
Salary?  Trading isn't considered a job too.

It seems to gamble IMO if you've zero knowledge and diving into trading hoping that you'll earn a profit.

Stupid troll, I have been a futures trader for a while now and not in any one instant have i been lucky enough to earn close to 9,000 a month from my account

Why aren't 90% of futures traders so rich? I know you know why.

This statement will only lead to false hope and misconception because, to be honest, futures isn't for everyone. It needs skill and a broad understanding of technical analysis. You should be fully equipped with knowledge before entering it. There's no specific amount that you can earn from it because not all who do futures succeed. You could possibly lose a lot if you'll do it without enough knowledge.

This is another bullshit that the OP is trying to give but doesn't show any evidence that he's earning that much. well, it's not impossible, but at least you detail how and what kind of futures trading you mean, because so sure you can easily consistently get 2000-3000% net results per month. Let's say even long-term investors don't always reach 2000-3000%.

Come on, this isn't for everybody. You're encouraging newbies to look at those numbers by just telling words. Well, it can be true but it's hard to apply for real.
I've known real life traders and they're profitable in futures but they are not doing this way of encouraging the others to go directly as quick as they can in futures.
Because futures isn't a newbie friendly and even good and professional traders, they can't skip being liquidated.

Gambling is not trading though, while trading too is not gambling, they are different but both are risky.

Leverage trading is risky generally, it is gambling for newbies, though not gambling for experts, but few (just very few) newbies later become experts, most people will continue to lose and lose more than winning. You are not wrong, people should not promote what is risky.

Actually this kind of thing is very possible to do but of course getting this large amount does not take a large set of leverage or risk, instead having a large capital is a must to achieve this with proper execution and risk, but of course not all the time is green day there's a chance that you lose up your assets that's why always manage risk and make a plan before making a trade, knowledge is the most essential and proper decision making.

Mostly agree with the rest, but futures trading in itself isn't necessarily a gamble. It's just a neutral market tool; it being a gamble or not totally depends on how you use it.

Have you thought about the fact that some people are simply more suited for a corporate job than others, and that not everyone is made to take even the slightest risk in life?

Sure, trading stocks, cryptocurrencies, or forex can provide a living, but before anyone can do that, they must be able to put in countless hours studying charts and constantly work on their psychology to combat the negative effects of losing trades. This requires a lot of discipline, and the majority of people are completely pissed off by it as a result of an industrialized 16–18–year education that includes significant struggle.

That is why some people aren't build to do this kind of job because their brain is hardwired to build a resume, follow someone else's instructions and get paid.

You also need to understand that not everyone can afford to attend another type of educational program where scammers and so-called trading gurus have tarnished the trading industry as yet another "get-rich-quick" scheme, leaving them with no choice but to learn trading on their own, which would again necessitate a lot of experimentation and resources, just like they did during their education, but with no manuals and strict written rules to follow.

While I know that being a consistent profitable trader is possible, there are a lot of realities that a person need to take into account and that's just how it is.

Bullshit, Futures trading in crypto is a gamble so no one can get a fixed salary per month unless he is doing inside trading because crypto market is very volatile and easy to manipulate. You need to become the luckiest person on earth to maintain fixed income per month of futures trading.

Stop promoting futures trading because it can destroy life of a newbie trader since exchange is offering an insane leverage that is very dangerous to newbie greedy traders.

Actually I don't understand what you are saying? Future trader monthly salary 9000-30000 USD dollars. How it would be possible? Please OP gives some trips for such kinds of jobs ...

Keyword: Some people

OP's making it sound as if futures trading was some stable job that anyone can earn monthly income from. Add to the fact that most traders actually lose money, the "average profit" should probably be in the negatives.

Some people can earn high amount of money from trading, but I doubt if 325btc is having any source to provide about it, he is a kind of person that prefer to make topics often, not thinking if the topics are quality type or not.

Having job means that there is a source of income, but in trading, the income is not certain for many people, some people may even end up losing over and over. Another reason is that trading is not for everyone, some people will keep on losing.

Can you give us some sources or did you just pull this number out your arse?

Because it's obviously not as easy as you think.

Yed is true average monthly salary is 9000-30k.
Becouse average profit is 2000-3000% a month

Future trading most best thing with fair pay as 9k is small a money a month the 30k sounds fair salary.
Why would you even work any other jobs ?
Dont waste ur life and time learn futures trading;)