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July 17, 2024, 02:07:37 PM
#54
After the distribution of individual awards at the end of the Euro, Jude fell back to third place and is now inferior to Rodri (it’s strange that Carvajal, with more titles than Rodri, is lower:

Vinicius Junior - 2.10
Rodri - 3.00
Jude Bellingham - 6.00

I still can’t understand why the two main favorites have worsened their chances so sharply - maybe the bookmakers are expecting that many voters who are inclined to Real will vote evenly for Vinnie and Jude (which is quite logical to expect) and because of this they may get fewer votes than Someone whose teammate won’t steal some of the votes. But Rodri has Haaland in his team.

Rodri was at 34.00 when we started talking about this topic, and now only 3.00 Shocked

In retrospective, I ask myself: was it so difficult to predict that this could happen? Not to me because I had faith this year in his national football team (although I didn't bet), but I congratulate those who believed in him and have multiplied their chances of winning by more than 11! because everyone is smart when it happened, but few are the brave the beginning.

The problem is that such a change in quotes has no practical significance unless he actually wins (in my opinion, the chances are minimal). And you cannot hedge such a bet anywhere by betting on the outcome “Rodri will not win.” I continue to believe that Vinny will receive the award, but still, when I saw such a serious shift in quotes before, it meant that the favorite would not win. But it’s hard for me to imagine that Rodri, Bellingham or Carvajal will receive the award.
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July 16, 2024, 02:01:16 PM
#53
After the distribution of individual awards at the end of the Euro, Jude fell back to third place and is now inferior to Rodri (it’s strange that Carvajal, with more titles than Rodri, is lower:

Vinicius Junior - 2.10
Rodri - 3.00
Jude Bellingham - 6.00

I still can’t understand why the two main favorites have worsened their chances so sharply - maybe the bookmakers are expecting that many voters who are inclined to Real will vote evenly for Vinnie and Jude (which is quite logical to expect) and because of this they may get fewer votes than Someone whose teammate won’t steal some of the votes. But Rodri has Haaland in his team.

Rodri was at 34.00 when we started talking about this topic, and now only 3.00 Shocked

In retrospective, I ask myself: was it so difficult to predict that this could happen? Not to me because I had faith this year in his national football team (although I didn't bet), but I congratulate those who believed in him and have multiplied their chances of winning by more than 11! because everyone is smart when it happened, but few are the brave the beginning.
Wow, imagine having played that odd then when it was at 34.00 odd and then rodri now wins the ballon door, that would be something and ofcourse that's if you placed it with some tangible amount of funds. But even with this vini still looks favorite looking at the odds given by the bookmakers and it would have been more certain of Brazil had a good campaign at the Copa America.
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July 16, 2024, 01:54:03 PM
#52
After the distribution of individual awards at the end of the Euro, Jude fell back to third place and is now inferior to Rodri (it’s strange that Carvajal, with more titles than Rodri, is lower:

Vinicius Junior - 2.10
Rodri - 3.00
Jude Bellingham - 6.00

I still can’t understand why the two main favorites have worsened their chances so sharply - maybe the bookmakers are expecting that many voters who are inclined to Real will vote evenly for Vinnie and Jude (which is quite logical to expect) and because of this they may get fewer votes than Someone whose teammate won’t steal some of the votes. But Rodri has Haaland in his team.

Rodri was at 34.00 when we started talking about this topic, and now only 3.00 Shocked

In retrospective, I ask myself: was it so difficult to predict that this could happen? Not to me because I had faith this year in his national football team (although I didn't bet), but I congratulate those who believed in him and have multiplied their chances of winning by more than 11! because everyone is smart when it happened, but few are the brave the beginning.
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July 16, 2024, 12:51:52 PM
#51
After the distribution of individual awards at the end of the Euro, Jude fell back to third place and is now inferior to Rodri (it’s strange that Carvajal, with more titles than Rodri, is lower:

Vinicius Junior - 2.10
Rodri - 3.00
Jude Bellingham - 6.00

I still can’t understand why the two main favorites have worsened their chances so sharply - maybe the bookmakers are expecting that many voters who are inclined to Real will vote evenly for Vinnie and Jude (which is quite logical to expect) and because of this they may get fewer votes than Someone whose teammate won’t steal some of the votes. But Rodri has Haaland in his team.
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July 15, 2024, 07:40:00 AM
#50
Vinny had an injury but the rest of the time he was definitely better and this is confirmed by the fact that before the international games he was the strongest favorite for Balloon D'or.
In any case, initially we started comparing Vinny's performance for the national team and Jude's performance for the national team. In my opinion, they performed equally (badly), so the change in the odds in Jude’s favor is incomprehensible to me.
There's no argument that Vini is the most favorite so far but as England is in the final and Jude has the chance to win it for England + a potential great performance from him, can change the favorite.
Yea, of course any of them that reaches the finals have increased his chances of winning it than before and now Bellingham is in the finals and if England manage to win Argentina, Bellingham might become the favorite, it is only if England doe not win the finals that no doubt Vini will be the winner of Ballon d'or. I will prefer Vini to win it because this might be his only opportunity to win it now since next year Mbappe will be playing in the same club where these two players are and he might have the higher chance than any of them Bellingham and Vini.
I dont think you do watch football at all. England is playing against Spain in the Final round. They had already qualified winning Netherlands 1:2. Meanwhile Argentina is playing in a different tournament which is Copa America while England is competing in the Euro 2024 tournament. It's two different tournaments.

And if I had to choose to win the Ballon D Or  Ill choose Vini because he is the man who deserves it currently. Bellingham has just had one-year performances which is thrilling but not as impressive to what Viniciius have been doing for a long time.
The Ballon D'Or is the most prestigious award in football. The question of who will win the 2024 Ballon D'Or is swirling in everyone's mind. Generally the award is considered based on team performance, club level performance and behavioral aspects. I think the Brazilian and Real Madrid club striker Vinicius Junior and the England team player and Real Madrid midfielder Bellingham are ahead in all of these. Both of them are likely to win the 2024 Ballon D'Or. Bellinghamo has won as many titles as Vinicius Jr. in terms of club level performance. In terms of team performance, Bellingham leads the way as his team reached the final of the Euros, where they were defeated by Spain. However, Vinicius Jr.'s Brazil lost to Uruguay in the quarter-finals and exited the 2024 Copa season, which is where Vinicius will be a bit behind.

We can't just talk about these two players, there is another worthy contender for the 2024 Ballon D'Or in Kylian Mbappe. The Ballon D'Or will basically be fought between these three.
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July 15, 2024, 07:26:20 AM
#49
Yes, there is such a possibility. By the way, as I understand it, you can already hedge your bet. Have you thought about this? After all, if Jude fails the final, then most likely the odds will roll back to their previous (at least in that direction) values. If he is good in the final, it is unlikely that this will significantly improve his position (since it has already been improved for some unknown reason). Overall I think the Euro final is more likely to go against Jude, so if I had that bet in hand I would consider hedging ahead of the final.
Jude Bellingham and Vinicius Jr. failed with his national teams in Euro 2024 and Coppa America. Jude did better by going to the final match but Vinicius Jr. had to leave Coppa America 2024 too early with Brazil. Rodri did not win Champions League with Manchester City and it's his minus point.

I did not see anyone mentioned a defender of Spain, he is Carvajal. Let's check what Carvajal won in this season: La Liga title and Champions League title with Real Madrid; with Spain he won Euro 2024 title. In both club and national teams, Carvajal did made big contributions.

In 2006, Fabio Canavaro won Ballon d'Or with his excellent performances for Italy in World Cup 2006. Will Carvajal win Ballon d'Or award in 2024 in surprise of all?

After the victory of Spain and the failure of Brazil and England (silver is not bad, but below expectations and the quality of the game was not at all what was expected from the favorite), the situation became confused. Rodri can hardly claim anything, Carvajal looks like a more logical contender, but I don’t think that because of one tournament he can beat those who were initially the main favorites. By the way, I don’t see any recent quotes - bookmakers don’t know what to do with them either?
Essentially, all the cards are on the table: the prize is awarded for the period August - July and nothing else can change the already existing balance of power.
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July 14, 2024, 11:28:45 PM
#48
Yes, there is such a possibility. By the way, as I understand it, you can already hedge your bet. Have you thought about this? After all, if Jude fails the final, then most likely the odds will roll back to their previous (at least in that direction) values. If he is good in the final, it is unlikely that this will significantly improve his position (since it has already been improved for some unknown reason). Overall I think the Euro final is more likely to go against Jude, so if I had that bet in hand I would consider hedging ahead of the final.
Jude Bellingham and Vinicius Jr. failed with his national teams in Euro 2024 and Coppa America. Jude did better by going to the final match but Vinicius Jr. had to leave Coppa America 2024 too early with Brazil. Rodri did not win Champions League with Manchester City and it's his minus point.

I did not see anyone mentioned a defender of Spain, he is Carvajal. Let's check what Carvajal won in this season: La Liga title and Champions League title with Real Madrid; with Spain he won Euro 2024 title. In both club and national teams, Carvajal did made big contributions.

In 2006, Fabio Canavaro won Ballon d'Or with his excellent performances for Italy in World Cup 2006. Will Carvajal win Ballon d'Or award in 2024 in surprise of all?
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July 14, 2024, 06:58:57 PM
#47
Rodri has the first chance right now to win right ? and hopefully after a couple of years of rigged Ballon d'Or ceremonies , we will finally have someone who deserves it and that is Rodri from Spain and no one else. It could have been Jude if he managed to score in the final but also win it for his country which didn't happen. The same happened with Vini Jr who didn't even manage to achieve a semi-final with Brazil at Copa America so I doubt that scoring into UCL final is enough to win Ballon d'Or.
I still think Vinícius Jr has an upper hand ahead of Rodri. The UCL has a huge influence as well as the Euros, and let's not forget that the Ballon d'Or lost meaning a long time ago. Lately it's about numbers (goals, assists, trophies and popularity) if you look at all that, you will understand the recent "robberies" in the Ballon d'Or.
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July 14, 2024, 06:49:11 PM
#46
Vinny had an injury but the rest of the time he was definitely better and this is confirmed by the fact that before the international games he was the strongest favorite for Balloon D'or.
In any case, initially we started comparing Vinny's performance for the national team and Jude's performance for the national team. In my opinion, they performed equally (badly), so the change in the odds in Jude’s favor is incomprehensible to me.
There's no argument that Vini is the most favorite so far but as England is in the final and Jude has the chance to win it for England + a potential great performance from him, can change the favorite.

Yes, there is such a possibility. By the way, as I understand it, you can already hedge your bet. Have you thought about this? After all, if Jude fails the final, then most likely the odds will roll back to their previous (at least in that direction) values. If he is good in the final, it is unlikely that this will significantly improve his position (since it has already been improved for some unknown reason). Overall I think the Euro final is more likely to go against Jude, so if I had that bet in hand I would consider hedging ahead of the final.

Rodri has the first chance right now to win right ? and hopefully after a couple of years of rigged Ballon D'or ceremonies , we will finally have someone who deserves it and that is Rodri from Spain and no one else. It could have been Jude if he managed to score in the final but also win it for his country which didn't happen. The same happened with Vini Jr who didn't even manage to achieve a semi-final with Brazil at Copa America so I doubt that scoring into UCL final is enough to win Ballon D'or.
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July 13, 2024, 05:12:24 PM
#45
Vinny had an injury but the rest of the time he was definitely better and this is confirmed by the fact that before the international games he was the strongest favorite for Balloon D'or.
In any case, initially we started comparing Vinny's performance for the national team and Jude's performance for the national team. In my opinion, they performed equally (badly), so the change in the odds in Jude’s favor is incomprehensible to me.
There's no argument that Vini is the most favorite so far but as England is in the final and Jude has the chance to win it for England + a potential great performance from him, can change the favorite.

Yes, there is such a possibility. By the way, as I understand it, you can already hedge your bet. Have you thought about this? After all, if Jude fails the final, then most likely the odds will roll back to their previous (at least in that direction) values. If he is good in the final, it is unlikely that this will significantly improve his position (since it has already been improved for some unknown reason). Overall I think the Euro final is more likely to go against Jude, so if I had that bet in hand I would consider hedging ahead of the final.
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July 13, 2024, 11:17:47 AM
#44
@Little Mouse I think this was a good catch with Bellingham, but the bet was only worth the money when you found it. In my opinion if England wins the European Championship, Bellingham will win the Ballon d'Or. That would make it Champions League + Premier League + European Championship and there is nobody who can compete with that. However, now that Vinicius Junior got eliminated early, the odds adjusted tremendously. But it is probably still worth the money. Who else should become the Ballon d'Or winner even now when Bellingham loses the final now? He had this bicycle kick scoring the goal in the last minute against Slovakia. I missed your post actually... Now that I see it, 4.0 was worth the money big time! Nobody else really had a chance. Bellingham had 25 scorer points, 19 goals and 6 assists in the Primera Division, playing as whoever knows what position...

Damn it, that 4.0 was juicy back then!
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July 12, 2024, 11:17:49 AM
#43
Vinny had an injury but the rest of the time he was definitely better and this is confirmed by the fact that before the international games he was the strongest favorite for Balloon D'or.
In any case, initially we started comparing Vinny's performance for the national team and Jude's performance for the national team. In my opinion, they performed equally (badly), so the change in the odds in Jude’s favor is incomprehensible to me.
There's no argument that Vini is the most favorite so far but as England is in the final and Jude has the chance to win it for England + a potential great performance from him, can change the favorite.
Yea, of course any of them that reaches the finals have increased his chances of winning it than before and now Bellingham is in the finals and if England manage to win Argentina, Bellingham might become the favorite, it is only if England doe not win the finals that no doubt Vini will be the winner of Ballon d'or. I will prefer Vini to win it because this might be his only opportunity to win it now since next year Mbappe will be playing in the same club where these two players are and he might have the higher chance than any of them Bellingham and Vini.
I dont think you do watch football at all. England is playing against Spain in the Final round. They had already qualified winning Netherlands 1:2. Meanwhile Argentina is playing in a different tournament which is Copa America while England is competing in the Euro 2024 tournament. It's two different tournaments.

And if I had to choose to win the Ballon D Or  Ill choose Vini because he is the man who deserves it currently. Bellingham has just had one-year performances which is thrilling but not as impressive to what Viniciius have been doing for a long time.
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July 12, 2024, 11:00:40 AM
#42
Vinny had an injury but the rest of the time he was definitely better and this is confirmed by the fact that before the international games he was the strongest favorite for Balloon D'or.
In any case, initially we started comparing Vinny's performance for the national team and Jude's performance for the national team. In my opinion, they performed equally (badly), so the change in the odds in Jude’s favor is incomprehensible to me.
There's no argument that Vini is the most favorite so far but as England is in the final and Jude has the chance to win it for England + a potential great performance from him, can change the favorite.
Yea, of course any of them that reaches the finals have increased his chances of winning it than before and now Bellingham is in the finals and if England manage to win Argentina, Bellingham might become the favorite, it is only if England doe not win the finals that no doubt Vini will be the winner of Ballon d'or. I will prefer Vini to win it because this might be his only opportunity to win it now since next year Mbappe will be playing in the same club where these two players are and he might have the higher chance than any of them Bellingham and Vini.
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July 12, 2024, 10:52:19 AM
#41
Vinny had an injury but the rest of the time he was definitely better and this is confirmed by the fact that before the international games he was the strongest favorite for Balloon D'or.
In any case, initially we started comparing Vinny's performance for the national team and Jude's performance for the national team. In my opinion, they performed equally (badly), so the change in the odds in Jude’s favor is incomprehensible to me.
There's no argument that Vini is the most favorite so far but as England is in the final and Jude has the chance to win it for England + a potential great performance from him, can change the favorite.
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July 12, 2024, 08:21:03 AM
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Do you think Bellingham did more? Or should he be given an award as the best player of the season for that one goal against Slovakia?
He had a very nice season in Real Madrid. Vini wasn't there at the beginning. Jude was doing everything for Madrid. However, he didn't have good performance in the UCL knockout matches while Vini was outstanding.

If Bellingham can have a great final, very much possible that he will win the award. England has never won EURO, they haven't won any major trophy in recent years. If he helped the team to win, it will have him much hype than Vini.

Vinny had an injury but the rest of the time he was definitely better and this is confirmed by the fact that before the international games he was the strongest favorite for Balloon D'or.
In any case, initially we started comparing Vinny's performance for the national team and Jude's performance for the national team. In my opinion, they performed equally (badly), so the change in the odds in Jude’s favor is incomprehensible to me.
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July 11, 2024, 09:09:03 PM
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Because of Yamal outstanding performance in the Euro match of Spain vs France, Lamine Yamal has entered the race for the Ballon d'Or.
Very much unlikely. Yamal had a outstanding performance but that's not enough for winning Ballon d Or.

Do you think Bellingham did more? Or should he be given an award as the best player of the season for that one goal against Slovakia?
He had a very nice season in Real Madrid. Vini wasn't there at the beginning. Jude was doing everything for Madrid. However, he didn't have good performance in the UCL knockout matches while Vini was outstanding.

If Bellingham can have a great final, very much possible that he will win the award. England has never won EURO, they haven't won any major trophy in recent years. If he helped the team to win, it will have him much hype than Vini.
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July 11, 2024, 02:05:34 PM
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1.93 for Vini
2.75 for Bellingham

It was a good deal for Bellingham at @4.00 which I have placed bets in. Bring it, Jude.

On the other side, Rodri is in limelight now with his great performance in Euro. There's a chance that Rodri will win Ballon if he can play outstanding in the final and beat England. There's a strong chance and the odd is juicy enough- Rodri to win @6.60

I'm getting tempted to place bet on Rodri too lol.

Awesome catch! I'm on the same side with Bellingham because Vini Jr did absolutely nothing for Brazil in this Copa America and really doesn't deserve to win Ballon D'or. However , I would still say Bellingham need a goal in the final to actually be a certain winner.  Cool

I could also see Rodri to win but he would need an assist and a goal in the final to actually be a real contender right ?

Do you think Bellingham did more? Or should he be given an award as the best player of the season for that one goal against Slovakia? To be honest, I don’t understand at all why Bellingham’s chances have increased so much, because he is clearly performing worse than expected, but the fact that England crawled to the final is due to various circumstances and a successful draw (compare with the path of Spain/Germany/France/Portugal).
1.93 on Vinnie looks too good to be true  Grin
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July 11, 2024, 10:10:52 AM
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Because of Yamal outstanding performance in the Euro match of Spain vs France, Lamine Yamal has entered the race for the Ballon d'Or.



That's the recent update from Givemesport Facebook handle a day ago.

The Ballon d'Or race is between three candidates Vinicius, Bellingham and Yamal. If Spain wins the Euro, let's not be surprised that Yamal takes home the Ballon d'Or award as the youngest player doing that.

shock for Vinicius and Bellingham, as Yamal enters Ballon d'or
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July 11, 2024, 09:21:41 AM
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1.93 for Vini
2.75 for Bellingham

It was a good deal for Bellingham at @4.00 which I have placed bets in. Bring it, Jude.

On the other side, Rodri is in limelight now with his great performance in Euro. There's a chance that Rodri will win Ballon if he can play outstanding in the final and beat England. There's a strong chance and the odd is juicy enough- Rodri to win @6.60

I'm getting tempted to place bet on Rodri too lol.

Awesome catch! I'm on the same side with Bellingham because Vini Jr did absolutely nothing for Brazil in this Copa America and really doesn't deserve to win Ballon D'or. However , I would still say Bellingham need a goal in the final to actually be a certain winner.  Cool

I could also see Rodri to win but he would need an assist and a goal in the final to actually be a real contender right ?
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July 11, 2024, 03:24:21 AM
#35
1.93 for Vini
2.75 for Bellingham

It was a good deal for Bellingham at @4.00 which I have placed bets in. Bring it, Jude.

On the other side, Rodri is in limelight now with his great performance in Euro. There's a chance that Rodri will win Ballon if he can play outstanding in the final and beat England. There's a strong chance and the odd is juicy enough- Rodri to win @6.60

I'm getting tempted to place bet on Rodri too lol.
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July 01, 2024, 10:30:00 PM
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Here we go. The odd has been changed. The chances for for Jude to win the Ballon D O'r has increased a little bit while it has been decreased a little for Vini. Jude had a nice performance against Slovakia. Let's see how Vini performs in the next matches.
Vinícius Júnior had a good game against Paraguay where he scored a brace. But it was Jude Bellingham's acrobatic goal that is receiving all the attention. Jude's goal was remarkable because it was an important one that gave England hope. So I am not surprised that the chances of Jude winning the Ballon d'Or increased. England has reached the quarterfinals which means they can make it to the finals if they keep winning. And we all know that winning the competition might be the magic that Jude needs to outsmart Vinícius. But the battle is still fierce between the two Galácticos. Brazil's performance in the Copa América had greatly improved after a slow start, so I am not ruling them out from winning the competition. And if that happens Vinícius will surely wear the crown.
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July 01, 2024, 08:58:01 PM
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Here we go. The odd has been changed. The chances for for Jude to win the Ballon D O'r has increased a little bit while it has been decreased a little for Vini. Jude had a nice performance against Slovakia. Let's see how Vini performs in the next matches.

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Bellingham is not performing well at the EUROs either. He has scored one goal, but that has been the extent of what he has shown. The Engalnd team has also been disjointed despite the hype and expectations.

If England can find a way to reach the final or win EURO2024 it does put him in a good place to compete, worth it to take those odds now and stake on them, cause they will surely drop if that happens.

Vini has very good odds for an outright favourite, the safer option. Do they have an option to bet on FIFA 11 or puskas award too?
I don't even know the debate here, Vini is in pole position to win the Ballon D Or. He deserved it more than Jude Bellingham, I don't even know why many people are considering Jude Bellingham for the award. Even in their club side Vini performance was more visible to me than that of Jude. Anyway the odds speaks for itself, the champions league final actually revealed that Vini is worthy of the award. The English media will always over hype their players whereas they are not as good a speculated. Jude is currently lost in the England squad, he is not even showing in their games they have played so far in euros, Yes he managed to score a goal yesterday but that's not close to what will be used to determine who the winner Ballon D Or winner should be. Vini has been performing for years at real Madrid, and his country. He is not just a one season wonder unlike Bellingham, so judging by their consistency over the years, you will find out that Vini is way ahead of Jude.
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July 01, 2024, 11:33:04 AM
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So, after Vinnie scored a brace and Bellingham saved England from elimination in the last minute of the last 16, I think it's safe to say there are two men left in the race. Theoretically, Mbappe can still have time to show something extraordinary at the European Championship, but Vinny and Bellingham are very much ahead as they have no weak points left in the season - they have proven themselves both at the club level and at the national team level.
I still think that betting on Vinny is easy money. What do you say colleagues?
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June 27, 2024, 05:12:26 PM
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Don't you think the odd is quite good for Bellingham. If you have watched Vini's performance today against Costa Rica, I'm sure you have observed that he is going to be disaster in National team once again. He never seems to be confident in yellow.
Here's the chance for Bellingham. If he can perform as usual and lead his team to Final, he has a great chance for winning 2024 Ballon D Or. Thoughts on placing bets? Who do you think will win this year Ballon D Or and why? Please share your opinion and whether placing bets on Jude makes sense.
The odds on Bellingham is good, but it is only that way because his chances of beating Vini Jr to it is slim, and that is why the odd on Vini Jr's is small, and you have to put quite a lot of money on it to win something tangible.

Bellingham is going to come second, Vini Jr will win the Ballon D'Or, he came to life in all the CL big games for Real Madrid last season, Bellingham started the season better than Vini, but in the bigger games, he was nowhere to be found, but Vini stood up when it mattered and was absolutely brilliant. As for their national teams, Jude is also having a bad tournament thus far, and with the way England is playing, they won't win the trophy, so both the Copa America and the Euros might not count in any of their favor.
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The Euros and Copa America are now an important benchmark for supporting the Ballon D'Or this season because in terms of the current situation, Vini has a better condition and it is very natural that this season he is the favorite because after all his achievements in La Liga and of course his role in the Champions League are very good but on the other hand this will also be a concern where performance at the Euros and Copa America is a benchmark that could be the difference for the Ballon D'Or this season.

The most important thing for now is that it would be very funny if Messi gets the Ballon d'Or again. Not that I don't like him but by looking at the situation now and if Messi gets the Ballon d'Or again this season it feels to me very funny because indeed his performance at his current age and the competition he is doing in MLS is not that good to get the Ballon d'Or title again.
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June 27, 2024, 04:40:40 PM
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Even if England wins, it will not be a guarantee because the question is how they will win. For example, Kane will score 7 decisive goals. Then in the voting he is more likely to take votes away from Bellingham than from Vinny - that is, the victory of England will be in Vinny's favor.
I doubt this, since Jude have better chance of winning, then Jude will be given more votes against Kane, even if Kane was the highest goal scorer especially if he is able to have a higher goal contribution or at least a reasonable amount of it with a good work rate.

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In general, the more I think about it, the more this 40% profit seems like easy money to me. And in fact, there is another powerful factor - politics. I have no doubt that in this situation not giving an award to Vinny means being accused of racism.
In terms of FIFA standing I believe Brasil has greater power than England and Vini not winning it, if England wins Euro  won`t be seen as any discrimination/racism to many.
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It doesn't matter how many people vote for Jude vs. Kane. The main thing is that those who vote for Vinnie will vote for him no matter how England plays, and if England plays well, then the doubters will vote for both Jude and Kane - thus their votes will be “blurred”.
As for racism, modern media can find it anywhere, so everyone prefers to play it safe  Grin
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I think betting on Bellingham is a good choice. Vini seems like the obvious candidate, but I don't think he'll win it.
Bellingham won La Liga player of the season, that's an edge. He won the Champions League with Real Madrid, the same as Vinicius, and even if Vinicius was the star man for Madrid in the later stages of the competition, Bellingham also delivered his goals that won them matches.

Now, if you look at their performances in their various national teams, Bellingham might not be putting up a world-class performance, but Vini is the worst. Bellingham is the kind of player to produce results, he can score goals to help England win games as he has already done in this ongoing Euro, Vini on the other needs to play very well, which he's not doing at the moment.
I don't believe Bellingham is a better player than Vinicius, but Bellingham is a player who knows how to steal the headlines with game-saving goals, and if he's able to do that in the Euro, he'll win the Balon d'Or.

Finally, there is the fact that Bellingham has better odds. 4 odds are better to stake on than 1.4 odds. If I'm to bet, Bellingham would be the no-brainer for me.
I think Bellingham will win it.There is no way they will be giving it to vinicius because he wasn't the Lalliga best player.This year's Ballon'Or is left with just Viniciuus and Bellingham,and the players are both Madrid players.
Bellingham have a high chance of being the winner because of what he did last season.He was up there in the number of goals,he was also up their in the young best player,best men's player,I mean he is the most prefered candidate for this Titttle,and if they should give Vini,then I will say it was bias.
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June 26, 2024, 05:38:14 PM
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I was looking for outright bets on 2024 Ballon D Or winner and found metawin is offering outright bet on this. I have checked in stake but haven't found, did I miss?

In metawin, here's the odd for probable Ballon D Or winner.



Don't you think the odd is quite good for Bellingham. If you have watched Vini's performance today against Costa Rica, I'm sure you have observed that he is going to be disaster in National team once again. He never seems to be confident in yellow.
Here's the chance for Bellingham. If he can perform as usual and lead his team to Final, he has a great chance for winning 2024 Ballon D Or. Thoughts on placing bets? Who do you think will win this year Ballon D Or and why? Please share your opinion and whether placing bets on Jude makes sense.

I'll delete off topic, spamming here and that's why the thread is self moderated.

I think this is an easy bet on Vinny. If Bellingham had shown a good game in the Euros, he could have gotten closer to Vinny, but Bellingham plays very averagely. Maybe the situation will change and England will become champion and Brazil will be eliminated in the early stages of the playoffs and then their chances, if not equal, will become closer. But what is the probability that England will reach its maximum and Brazil will fail at its maximum? This is a very small probability. I think Vinny will win this prize.
My suprised to this pool is even seeing Messi added there because I believe the balloon Dior is actually an award handed over to player in European club or its ab award awarded to any best player from any League in the world. And I just have this particular question too about Messi also and it is what will be the fate of the rest candidate if Messi was to pull off some magic and actually win the Copa America.
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I think betting on Bellingham is a good choice. Vini seems like the obvious candidate, but I don't think he'll win it.
Bellingham won La Liga player of the season, that's an edge. He won the Champions League with Real Madrid, the same as Vinicius, and even if Vinicius was the star man for Madrid in the later stages of the competition, Bellingham also delivered his goals that won them matches.

Now, if you look at their performances in their various national teams, Bellingham might not be putting up a world-class performance, but Vini is the worst. Bellingham is the kind of player to produce results, he can score goals to help England win games as he has already done in this ongoing Euro, Vini on the other needs to play very well, which he's not doing at the moment.
I don't believe Bellingham is a better player than Vinicius, but Bellingham is a player who knows how to steal the headlines with game-saving goals, and if he's able to do that in the Euro, he'll win the Balon d'Or.

Finally, there is the fact that Bellingham has better odds. 4 odds are better to stake on than 1.4 odds. If I'm to bet, Bellingham would be the no-brainer for me.
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I think this is an easy bet on Vinny. If Bellingham had shown a good game in the Euros, he could have gotten closer to Vinny, but Bellingham plays very averagely. Maybe the situation will change and England will become champion and Brazil will be eliminated in the early stages of the playoffs and then their chances, if not equal, will become closer. But what is the probability that England will reach its maximum and Brazil will fail at its maximum? This is a very small probability. I think Vinny will win this prize.
If England becomes Champions then Jude will be the winner because after so many years (1966 World Cup) England will lift a trophy which is more like a curse which has not been broken even with having world class stars over the years still yet nothing to show in the national team, this is enough for him to win the Ballon D Or, since I believed would be a key factor for England to win though Vini might stand a chance here if Brasil also win the Copa America which is mostly unlikely. While with the club performance Vini would win.

Even if England wins, it will not be a guarantee because the question is how they will win. For example, Kane will score 7 decisive goals. Then in the voting he is more likely to take votes away from Bellingham than from Vinny - that is, the victory of England will be in Vinny's favor.
I doubt this, since Jude have better chance of winning, then Jude will be given more votes against Kane, even if Kane was the highest goal scorer especially if he is able to have a higher goal contribution or at least a reasonable amount of it with a good work rate.

If England becomes Champions then Jude will be the winner because after so many years (1966 World Cup) England will lift a trophy which is more like a curse which has not been broken even with having world class stars over the years still yet nothing to show in the national team, this is enough for him to win the Ballon D Or, since I believed would be a key factor for England to win though Vini might stand a chance here if Brasil also win the Copa America which is mostly unlikely. While with the club performance Vini would win.

You're so sentimental, one sided and what else should I say? So Jude Bellingham is likely to win the Euros and  Vinicius Junior is not likely to win the Copa America? Ahhh Football fans are biased. ³/³ games for England and Jude Bellingham the best player in La Liga is no where to be found in the games, yes? Keep playing.

When it comes to this Competition, I do think it obviously belongs to Vinicius Junior, he deserves it and has also worked hard for it. I can remember his assist for Valverde and them his goals against Bayern Munich and Manchester City if I'm correct. Nobody else but Vinicius Junior deserves it.

Don't think no believe whatever these bookmakers fixed up, I go with what I see with my eyes and that's Vinicius Junior.
How was sentimental or being one sided, i have made something clear to you from my previous post now.

I believed Vini will more likely win the Ballon D Or but I`m only stating the fact where Jude might have an edge over Vini and this is only if England can win Euro because Vini has been the backbone of Real Madrid attack these past seasons and even in this season, his contribution to the club title winning can not be ignored and that is why we see the odd that was given to him to win the Ballon D Or here.
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If England becomes Champions then Jude will be the winner because after so many years (1966 World Cup) England will lift a trophy which is more like a curse which has not been broken even with having world class stars over the years still yet nothing to show in the national team, this is enough for him to win the Ballon D Or, since I believed would be a key factor for England to win though Vini might stand a chance here if Brasil also win the Copa America which is mostly unlikely. While with the club performance Vini would win.

You're so sentimental, one sided and what else should I say? So Jude Bellingham is likely to win the Euros and  Vinicius Junior is not likely to win the Copa America? Ahhh Football fans are biased. ³/³ games for England and Jude Bellingham the best player in La Liga is no where to be found in the games, yes? Keep playing.

When it comes to this Competition, I do think it obviously belongs to Vinicius Junior, he deserves it and has also worked hard for it. I can remember his assist for Valverde and them his goals against Bayern Munich and Manchester City if I'm correct. Nobody else but Vinicius Junior deserves it.

Don't think no believe whatever these bookmakers fixed up, I go with what I see with my eyes and that's Vinicius Junior.
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I think this is an easy bet on Vinny. If Bellingham had shown a good game in the Euros, he could have gotten closer to Vinny, but Bellingham plays very averagely. Maybe the situation will change and England will become champion and Brazil will be eliminated in the early stages of the playoffs and then their chances, if not equal, will become closer. But what is the probability that England will reach its maximum and Brazil will fail at its maximum? This is a very small probability. I think Vinny will win this prize.
If England becomes Champions then Jude will be the winner because after so many years (1966 World Cup) England will lift a trophy which is more like a curse which has not been broken even with having world class stars over the years still yet nothing to show in the national team, this is enough for him to win the Ballon D Or, since I believed would be a key factor for England to win though Vini might stand a chance here if Brasil also win the Copa America which is mostly unlikely. While with the club performance Vini would win.

Even if England wins, it will not be a guarantee because the question is how they will win. For example, Kane will score 7 decisive goals. Then in the voting he is more likely to take votes away from Bellingham than from Vinny - that is, the victory of England will be in Vinny's favor.
In general, the more I think about it, the more this 40% profit seems like easy money to me. And in fact, there is another powerful factor - politics. I have no doubt that in this situation not giving an award to Vinny means being accused of racism.
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June 26, 2024, 02:41:23 PM
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I think this is an easy bet on Vinny. If Bellingham had shown a good game in the Euros, he could have gotten closer to Vinny, but Bellingham plays very averagely. Maybe the situation will change and England will become champion and Brazil will be eliminated in the early stages of the playoffs and then their chances, if not equal, will become closer. But what is the probability that England will reach its maximum and Brazil will fail at its maximum? This is a very small probability. I think Vinny will win this prize.
If England becomes Champions then Jude will be the winner because after so many years (1966 World Cup) England will lift a trophy which is more like a curse which has not been broken even with having world class stars over the years still yet nothing to show in the national team, this is enough for him to win the Ballon D Or, since I believed would be a key factor for England to win though Vini might stand a chance here if Brasil also win the Copa America which is mostly unlikely. While with the club performance Vini would win.
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Truth be told, Vini at 1.40 makes no sense to me, that is the one that is the worse. We should be considering the fact that Vini was good but he wasn't THAT good, like not clear ahead of everyone else, the 1.40 odds means that he should be nearly guaranteed to win and we know that it is not guaranteed.

Once again, don't get me wrong and we could definitely see him win, that shouldn't be really the important bit, we should probably get to see something different, but at the end of the day I think it is going to be Vini again anyway. I am just pissed because we are talking about a situation where he is going to win and the odds are not good enough to bet on that, it just doesn't mean that we are going to get anything better at all.
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I was looking for outright bets on 2024 Ballon D Or winner and found metawin is offering outright bet on this. I have checked in stake but haven't found, did I miss?

In metawin, here's the odd for probable Ballon D Or winner.



Don't you think the odd is quite good for Bellingham. If you have watched Vini's performance today against Costa Rica, I'm sure you have observed that he is going to be disaster in National team once again. He never seems to be confident in yellow.
Here's the chance for Bellingham. If he can perform as usual and lead his team to Final, he has a great chance for winning 2024 Ballon D Or. Thoughts on placing bets? Who do you think will win this year Ballon D Or and why? Please share your opinion and whether placing bets on Jude makes sense.

I'll delete off topic, spamming here and that's why the thread is self moderated.

I think this is an easy bet on Vinny. If Bellingham had shown a good game in the Euros, he could have gotten closer to Vinny, but Bellingham plays very averagely. Maybe the situation will change and England will become champion and Brazil will be eliminated in the early stages of the playoffs and then their chances, if not equal, will become closer. But what is the probability that England will reach its maximum and Brazil will fail at its maximum? This is a very small probability. I think Vinny will win this prize.
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I don't think we can beat the algorithm in predicting the best odds for each outcome. If Vinicius is at 1.40 and Bellingham at 4.00 I'm sure that the algo is taking into account details that we can't understand even if we try. I haven't checked other sites, but if the odds are more or less consistent between sportsbooks there must be a good reason for it.

BTW, I won't bet myself, but good luck Little Mouse (and the rest), I hope you share your results with us and that they are good news Smiley
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I would say Bellingham definitely has good odds, but it depends on these euros as well, if England ends up winning it (doubt it) and Jude does very well in it, then maybe he has a higher chance. Because truth be told, Vini Jr. was much more important for Real Madrid near the end, and that's what they usually look at.

And no joke, Messi being 34.00 is still a good one lol, I am not saying he will win, of course he won't, but putting up like just ten bucks on that for fun doesn't seem like all that crazy. What if they just win Copa America, and he plays awesome and gets some last minute goals to get them to win it? Ballon D'or usually picks Messi over anyone if they can, so losing just ten bucks won't hurt for that good odds lol.
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I have no idea why it's Vini, probably because he tend to create dramas and that make the media being attracted to him.
Jude had poor performance in knock out matches in UCL while Vini had a great performance. You are being bias I think lol. Vini deserves this if we can have somewhat a good time in Copa.
Thank you for telling him this, Vini totally deserves it if he can do well with Brazil to sum up his performance for this season. Personally, I think that Jude Bellingham is a great player, but the English media does a lot to glorify him.

If Jude runs with the ball, you hear, Oh! What a great movement!
If he holds the ball, you hear, Oh! What a composed player!
If he scores! It will be talked about almost all week.

He is a good player, and there are other good players like him.

I won't surprise if it's Tony Kroos as well. Imagine Germany winning EURO and of course, Tony Kroos will have huge impact and likely to be winning Player of the Tournament. If you look at his performance throughout the season and in this EURO, I believe he can be a good contender.
Kroos is one of the players who has never scored in the Euros, this is his last opportunity to break that jinx. If he is awarded the Ballon d'Or, it still seems fair to me.
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June 26, 2024, 02:03:31 AM
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Placed my bets for Jude. Will consider for Kroos too.

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Because of the little odds given to Vinicius, Bellingham, and Kross. I have no reason to doubt that one of them will win the Ballon d'Or because of the magnificent contributions they made in Real Madrid to win the Champions League and Laliga.
To pick the exact contender to win from the three mentioned contenders, will be from their performance and the contributions they made for their country to lift either of Euro or Copa America League they are playing in.

For the record: Vinicius is playing for Brazil(Copa America League), Kross for Germany, and Bellingham for England(both were in the Euro League).
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Seems too early make predicting before the Euro 2024 and Copa America 2024 final result, I believe some prediction and odds given will change drastically depend on players contribution with their national team.
Recently Vinicius Jr on the first list name candidate for winning Ballon d'Or but its has possibility change if Lionel Messi win Copa America 2024 although he not playing in higher perform with his club or winning any trophies with Inter Miami.

I am waiting the result of Copa America and Euro 2024 before choosing my prediction for the Ballon d'Or winner for this year, actually I am interested with Vinicius Jr but if Brazil failed in Copa America and Argentina become the winner seems Lionel Messi has bigger opportunity such as last year indeed he not win any trophy with Inter Miami and played few matches only.

It is too early to predict the Ballon Dior winner because Euro and the copa America matches just started, we haven’t seen any top five players that are being selected perform very well, Vinicius, Bellingham, Harry Kane, Mbape, Kroos performance has not shown us that this player is ready to win the ballon, Dior, the only player that is having a good performance among them is Toni Kroos and if Kroos win the award before he retires it will be a huge achievement for him, Kroos deserves to win the award and I will be very happy if Germany qualifies to the final round of Euros and with the Germany performance I believe they will try to qualify to the final stage.

I don’t even see any reason why Messi would be among the Ballon Dior contestants, Messi is not having a good season in Inter Miami and even currently inter Miami is still playing their league and he is not with them unless FIFA wants to give it to Messi if not Messi name should not even include in the list, The players that should be in top five should be Vinicius, Bellingham, Mbape, Kane and Kroos. These are the players that deserve the award.
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June 25, 2024, 05:03:23 AM
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I won't surprise if it's Tony Kroos as well. Imagine Germany winning EURO and of course, Tony Kroos will have huge impact and likely to be winning Player of the Tournament. If you look at his performance throughout the season and in this EURO, I believe he can be a good contender.
He can also be a good contender as you said, if Germany can win Euro, he will be given as a compensation for his retirement from football, because he has really done a lot for Real Madrid and he is a great player too. This was what I and my friend was discussing this morning. This was how they gave Messi the world best.

Vini currently has the higher chance but along the line as the competitions are coming to an end we will have the proper picture of who will be the winner.
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Seems too early make predicting before the Euro 2024 and Copa America 2024 final result, I believe some prediction and odds given will change drastically depend on players contribution with their national team.
Recently Vinicius Jr on the first list name candidate for winning Ballon d'Or but its has possibility change if Lionel Messi win Copa America 2024 although he not playing in higher perform with his club or winning any trophies with Inter Miami.

I am waiting the result of Copa America and Euro 2024 before choosing my prediction for the Ballon d'Or winner for this year, actually I am interested with Vinicius Jr but if Brazil failed in Copa America and Argentina become the winner seems Lionel Messi has bigger opportunity such as last year indeed he not win any trophy with Inter Miami and played few matches only.
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I have no idea why it's Vini, probably because he tend to create dramas and that make the media being attracted to him.
Jude had poor performance in knock out matches in UCL while Vini had a great performance. You are being bias I think lol. Vini deserves this if we can have somewhat a good time in Copa.

I believe it's between the two as well.
I won't surprise if it's Tony Kroos as well. Imagine Germany winning EURO and of course, Tony Kroos will have huge impact and likely to be winning Player of the Tournament. If you look at his performance throughout the season and in this EURO, I believe he can be a good contender.
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I couldn't find, maybe because stake isn't anymore my GOTO casino. Thanks for sharing. Stake is also offering the same odd.
Maybe they don't want so much volatility with the odds. It's not bad to see having the same odds from different platforms.



seems all these options for this year's balloon D or only did well for thier clubs but can't quite reflect that in Thier national team. Vini is the favourite to win the balloon D or due to his performance at real Madrid but currently at Copa America, he's yet to give us that real Madrid vibes. Same is what Jude Bellingham is having at England and his purely struggling to give an outstanding performance. In some way, it all balls down to the conclusion that the era of Christian Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Karim benzema produce a very competitive balon d'or contenders that actually merited it. The available option don't really fit into an ideal balloon d'or winner due to poor sportsmanship attitude on his part and the fact that others aren't showing much ability as a strong contender but it's likely going to be in favour of vini as it stands now.
Since the award as it stands is based on the performance throughout the year so I see Vini as the more probable result. If the performance of Bellingham were to just be with the recent matches like the match-winner against Serbia, he is the key player and increased chances for him to win. We will see.

I believe it's between the two as well.
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Who do you think will win this year Ballon D Or and why? Please share your opinion and whether placing bets on Jude makes sense.
It is quite unfortunate that both players' chance to win the Ballon d'Or depends on future games. Football is unpredictable because we can just see any of them coming up with a great performance. Placing bets on Jude makes sense but it will be safer to bet on Vinicius Jr. He has not scored any goal for now Copa America but Brazil as a team has a culture of improving as the competition progresses. So he might end up putting up a quality performance.

Bellingham is not performing well at the EUROs either. He has scored one goal, but that has been the extent of what he has shown. The Engalnd team has also been disjointed despite the hype and expectations.

Jude Bellingham's best performance in the Euros was in the game against Serbia where he scored the only goal. Besides the goal, he was almost everywhere on the pitch and putting up a great performance. The entire team performed poorly in the game against Denmark. Generally, Jude is a performer and I expect him to have a good game against Slovenia.
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The thing is, even you bet earlier, the odds will be adjusted until event closed, so the odds for Bellingham will not be @4.00.

I also think Bellingham should be the most favorite player that high likely to win Ballon d'Or, I have no idea why it's Vini, probably because he tend to create dramas and that make the media being attracted to him.

Mbappe has no chance since he didn't win Champions League.
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The favorite is still with Vinicius. I think his performance overall makes it even more appealing to bet on. I think you still need to manage your risk with this because it's really hard and maybe some of them would unlock their potential or something.
seems all these options for this year's balloon D or only did well for thier clubs but can't quite reflect that in Thier national team. Vini is the favourite to win the balloon D or due to his performance at real Madrid but currently at Copa America, he's yet to give us that real Madrid vibes. Same is what Jude Bellingham is having at England and his purely struggling to give an outstanding performance. In some way, it all balls down to the conclusion that the era of Christian Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Karim benzema produce a very competitive balon d'or contenders that actually merited it. The available option don't really fit into an ideal balloon d'or winner due to poor sportsmanship attitude on his part and the fact that others aren't showing much ability as a strong contender but it's likely going to be in favour of vini as it stands now.
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I think you haven't missed it yet. From what I see, this is the one.
I couldn't find, maybe because stake isn't anymore my GOTO casino. Thanks for sharing. Stake is also offering the same odd.

Do they have an option to bet on FIFA 11 or puskas award too?
No unfortunately. I haven't seen that. There's outright bets as usual, which team to lift the trophy.
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Bellingham is not performing well at the EUROs either. He has scored one goal, but that has been the extent of what he has shown. The Engalnd team has also been disjointed despite the hype and expectations.

If England can find a way to reach the final or win EURO2024 it does put him in a good place to compete, worth it to take those odds now and stake on them, cause they will surely drop if that happens.

Vini has very good odds for an outright favourite, the safer option. Do they have an option to bet on FIFA 11 or puskas award too?
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I think you haven't missed it yet. From what I see, this is the one.

https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/international/ballon-dor/43959006-ballon-dor-2024

The favorite is still with Vinicius. I think his performance overall makes it even more appealing to bet on. I think you still need to manage your risk with this because it's really hard and maybe some of them would unlock their potential or something.
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I was looking for outright bets on 2024 Ballon D Or winner and found metawin is offering outright bet on this. I have checked in stake but haven't found, did I miss?

In metawin, here's the odd for probable Ballon D Or winner.



Don't you think the odd is quite good for Bellingham. If you have watched Vini's performance today against Costa Rica, I'm sure you have observed that he is going to be disaster in National team once again. He never seems to be confident in yellow.
Here's the chance for Bellingham. If he can perform as usual and lead his team to Final, he has a great chance for winning 2024 Ballon D Or. Thoughts on placing bets? Who do you think will win this year Ballon D Or and why? Please share your opinion and whether placing bets on Jude makes sense.

I'll delete off topic, spamming here and that's why the thread is self moderated.
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