Ballon d'or Prediction Thread 2022/2023

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:09:41 PM

This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.

This year we will have a very difficult decision, I still have a lot of doubts between three players: Messi, Haaland and Mbappé.

Something that will greatly influence the decision this year is the period of evaluation of the players, since it will be restricted to the time that the official European season takes place, between July of one year and July of the other. In practice this means that in this edition the individual plays of the players in the Qatar World Cup will be evaluated by the prize winner.
There was also a drastic reduction in the jury from 170 (last year) to 100 representatives that year.

Even more important...
New evaluation criteria were adopted, and the individual performance of the players will prevail over the results obtained by their clubs. So, the fair play of the players will have an added weight in the definition of the winner of the Ballon d'Or.
Which in my opinion is fair enough.

Among so many changes, this year's winner may be a big surprise, but I'm still betting on one of the three I mentioned at the beginning of my post.

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Quote from: samcoin on January 27, 2023, 02:12:42 PM

I think the World Cup tournament has no strong effect on the winner of Ballon d'or. Luka Modric won it in 2018, although he didn't manage to win the World Cup final, and Ronaldo was the winner in 2014 when Germany won the World Cup. It seems the performance the player introduces with his club has a stronger effect than what he does with his national team, and the UCL is the strongest decisive factor for the winner of this trophy. Therefore, Halland could have a chance if Man City won the UCL this season.

You are right, for now the criteria for choosing the ballon d'or are very varied, I don't know to what extent FIFA agents can be allowed to do something to choose, but this time we will see if the ballon d'or comes from some players who are playing in the Europa League, because one of the most options could be Lewa, but I think that the one who can win it this time could be Mbappé, who has a good record, I'm sure that if he had won the world cup he would already have 80% of the Golden ball, however now the agents in charge of choosing have never said at least one criterion to be able to be selected for the best golden ball.

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I think the World Cup tournament has no strong effect on the winner of Ballon d'or. Luka Modric won it in 2018, although he didn't manage to win the World Cup final, and Ronaldo was the winner in 2014 when Germany won the World Cup. It seems the performance the player introduces with his club has a stronger effect than what he does with his national team, and the UCL is the strongest decisive factor for the winner of this trophy. Therefore, Halland could have a chance if Man City won the UCL this season.

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I strongly see the ballon d'or for Messi this time around again... Haven't really seen any player that merits it, though alot would say Ronaldo should have a chance this time around; I'm not just gonna dispute the fact that he should but, I'm afraid he's not fitting in the complete requirements this time.
Messi has pulled through with one of the greatest achievements when it comes to FIFA rating; Plus his spectacular performances throughout the world cup... I don't think he needs the UCL trophy to be awarded.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 27, 2023, 07:46:49 AM

Taking the 3 criteria for the award, individual and collective performance from the previous season, a player's class and their career, Messi looks like a likely contender. Another probable is Mbappe, both from the same club and both the worldcup finalist. But when I'm talking about how I feel, even though he couldn't participate in the world cup, Erling Halland is a worthy for the award than anyone else. Messi already have it some many times that it would not feel like an huge achievement for him.

I have no words for Messi. because Messi has collected all the awards, both individual awards and collecting various competition championship trophies. at the Qatar world cup championship yesterday, is a complement to the trophy that Messi collects. Like it or not, Messi will be a strong candidate to win the Balon d'Or award, especially if PSG are able to win the UCL trophy this season.

For Mbappe, it seems he is an exception. but I am sure, however Mbeppe will be one of the candidates for this award.
but IMO, it's not yet time for Mbappe to win this award. at least not this season, but I believe Mbappe will win the Balon d'Or when the time comes.

For this one we agree, this time the Balon d'or award should go to Haalland. he played superbly with City, and scored 3-4 hat-tricks in the Premier League. but to make it happen, Halland must bring City to win the Champions League trophy first.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on January 27, 2023, 08:58:40 AM

I don't know what happen with your listed name without Karim Benzema? he was success get Ballon d'Or last season and I sure he has potential get back this season although absent in FIFA World Cup 2022. I know Lionel Messi potential for winning Ballon d'or but depending with his achievement during PSG success or not in UEFA Champion League.

Lionel Messi become strong candidate winning Ballon d'Or is success get one tittle left is Champion League, how is dreaming to get champion league tittle with PSG in this season actually no doubt for him collected many Ballon d'Or in than other player around the world.

It's true that for this year's Balon d'or, the one with the potential to get it is Messi because he's the only candidate who has a big chance at this year's Balon d'or.
It can also be seen from the achievements of the game he played in the World Cup which was quite good compared to other players.
In addition, his achievements while playing with PSG, which were quite good, could also encourage him to get the Balon d'or.
So my prediction for the Balon d'or is only one name, namely Messi.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on January 27, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

There are amazing individual performances each season, but if that does not add up on a collective level and in the real objective that is to win competitions, so, well done! It club having most talented player. But...!

So it is the case here, how many soccer legends are indisputable on an individual level but who delivered nothing to the collective (clubs, team national)

So yes, great players, great statistics, but football is what you leave behind in your club and the tournaments that you manage to win for your country, that is the magic of great players that differentiates them from that great elite. Is there any doubt about the winner.

The player who leads the year in all aspects. He was selected as the player of the year. The style of play, assists, goals, how he played a role in winning the match is judged in all aspects.

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I don't know what happen with your listed name without Karim Benzema? he was success get Ballon d'Or last season and I sure he has potential get back this season although absent in FIFA World Cup 2022. I know Lionel Messi potential for winning Ballon d'or but depending with his achievement during PSG success or not in UEFA Champion League.

Lionel Messi become strong candidate winning Ballon d'Or is success get one tittle left is Champion League, how is dreaming to get champion league tittle with PSG in this season actually no doubt for him collected many Ballon d'Or in than other player around the world.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 27, 2023, 07:46:49 AM

Taking the 3 criteria for the award, individual and collective performance from the previous season, a player's class and their career, Messi looks like a likely contender. Another probable is Mbappe, both from the same club and both the worldcup finalist. But when I'm talking about how I feel, even though he couldn't participate in the world cup, Erling Halland is a worthy for the award than anyone else. Messi already have it some many times that it would not feel like an huge achievement for him.

Had Mbappe's team won the World Cup, he would have won the Ballon d'Or. And he is far behind Messi in terms of assists. So it can be said that Mbappe's chances are very low.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on January 27, 2023, 08:39:02 AM

Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:22:42 PM

You are right, Messi won the world cup which is one of his greatest achievement in history. He is the one that has won ballon d'or more than any player in history. The world cup is the greatest amongst all competition in football and Messi has really shown that he is the best this year with a brilliant performance in the world cup and in PSG.

i think I need to rephrase you on your statement. Messi actually has won his greatest achievement as a football player which is probably the world cup and i don't think fifa is going to give any other player the ballon dior than Messi who deserves it most. Leonel Messi is truly amazing with his football the guy has won almost everything a player would ever which to win. Currently the player with the most ballon Dior, messi is just simply the real GOAT of football.

I absolutely believe that Lionel Messi will win the Ballon d'Or this year. Because he is ahead in all aspects. The biggest thing is that he won the World Cup. And ahead with goal assists as well.

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:22:42 PM

You are right, Messi won the world cup which is one of his greatest achievement in history. He is the one that has won ballon d'or more than any player in history. The world cup is the greatest amongst all competition in football and Messi has really shown that he is the best this year with a brilliant performance in the world cup and in PSG.

i think I need to rephrase you on your statement. Messi actually has won his greatest achievement as a football player which is probably the world cup and i don't think fifa is going to give any other player the ballon dior than Messi who deserves it most. Leonel Messi is truly amazing with his football the guy has won almost everything a player would ever which to win. Currently the player with the most ballon Dior, messi is just simply the real GOAT of football.

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Taking the 3 criteria for the award, individual and collective performance from the previous season, a player's class and their career, Messi looks like a likely contender. Another probable is Mbappe, both from the same club and both the worldcup finalist. But when I'm talking about how I feel, even though he couldn't participate in the world cup, Erling Halland is a worthy for the award than anyone else. Messi already have it some many times that it would not feel like an huge achievement for him.

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There are amazing individual performances each season, but if that does not add up on a collective level and in the real objective that is to win competitions, so, well done! It club having most talented player. But...!

So it is the case here, how many soccer legends are indisputable on an individual level but who delivered nothing to the collective (clubs, team national)

So yes, great players, great statistics, but football is what you leave behind in your club and the tournaments that you manage to win for your country, that is the magic of great players that differentiates them from that great elite. Is there any doubt about the winner.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 08:49:24 AM

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I absolutely believe that Lionel Messi will win the Ballon d'Or this year. Because he is ahead in all aspects. The biggest thing is that he won the World Cup. And ahead with goal assists as well.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 08:54:17 AM

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Had Mbappe's team won the World Cup, he would have won the Ballon d'Or. And he is far behind Messi in terms of assists. So it can be said that Mbappe's chances are very low.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 09:02:45 AM

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The player who leads the year in all aspects. He was selected as the player of the year. The style of play, assists, goals, how he played a role in winning the match is judged in all aspects.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 13, 2023, 06:14:03 PM

I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I remember in previous years there was quite a bit of controversy over the Ballon d'or because Benzema who probably performed individually the best, didn't get it simply because he didn't achieve anything massive, whereas other candidates did.

If you can't tell, I'm not a massive fan of the Ballon d'or.

If Messi doesn't win the Ballon D'or in 2023, then I think the election for the Ballon d'Or winner is very unfair. what an extraordinary achievement for Messi because he managed to bring Argentina to win the world cup. even so, mbappe also has a great chance to win the 2023 ballon d'Or because he managed to bring france to the world cup final and became the top scorer in the world cup.

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If i had to look at it through the eyes of a football fan, i like all the candidates on this voting list. Mbappe is no exception, I really like to see his style when playing, especially if he is running fast while dribbling the ball. unfortunately, he is not equipped with a polite attitude or like other football stars, Mbappe has an ego that is too high. However, that doesn't mean I don't like it. it's just that, it's not yet time for Mbappe to win the ballon d'or award this year. maybe, one day Mbappe will reach it.

I'm not going to comment too much on Messi, he has achieved what he wanted. getting an award or not, yet the fact is, Messi has got what he wanted, namely the world cup trophy. For Haaland. I'm sure he will be a big star in the pursuit of individual awards. be it top scorer, best player, Haaland always qualifies for it.
Lewandoski, I like this player even though he is 34 years old. Lewandowski, can be counted on to score as many goals as he can for his team.
for the rest of the candidates, all of them are ace players in their respective teams and they have extraordinary talent. whoever wins this award event, then he deserves to get it.

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 16, 2023, 10:07:40 AM

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It seems in my opinion is that Messi can get the Ballon d'or trophies, he is the best at the moment because he looks impressive at world cup and can bring Argentina to win the world cup, although I want Mbappe which to win that trophies. Because this person is Mbappe, if we see at the top score of the French League as well as the UCL and last in the world cup, he have a chance also to get the ballon d'or but if compared with messi this guy still leads. As for Ronaldo, I'm not sure that after move to Al Nassr, can he still to be a candidate ?

i think also indeed the most likely rivalry is mbappe and messi for the ballon d'or because both of them played well also in the world cup and even the league, i don't see the other one has potential but i believe one of the two will win it that Ballon d'or

Messi is the main man for the the price and also Mbappe is a good competitor that is a great rivalry of Messi. We all know that Messi just won the world cup and also other prices that he had won which I think will make him win at this time again. We don't need to argue this because FIFA with definitely give it to him as the current GOAT.

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Quote from: Doell on January 15, 2023, 08:11:54 AM

It seems in my opinion is that Messi can get the Ballon d'or trophies, he is the best at the moment because he looks impressive at world cup and can bring Argentina to win the world cup, although I want Mbappe which to win that trophies. Because this person is Mbappe, if we see at the top score of the French League as well as the UCL and last in the world cup, he have a chance also to get the ballon d'or but if compared with messi this guy still leads. As for Ronaldo, I'm not sure that after move to Al Nassr, can he still to be a candidate ?

i think also indeed the most likely rivalry is mbappe and messi for the ballon d'or because both of them played well also in the world cup and even the league, i don't see the other one has potential but i believe one of the two will win it that Ballon d'or

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Definitely still too early to predict, but Messi has a big upper hand after carrying Argentina at WC. Since he is on the same team as Mbappe then if PSG becomes the UCL champion and Ligue 1 champion, it's pretty much also points for Messi. Other players like Haaland, De Bruyne, Lewa, etc. are still far away, and they can catch up only if their team wins UCL & respected league. Plus don't forget that the jurors were biased towards Messi as he became the best player even when he was not performing well. For Ronaldo, well, no hope since he's pretty much as good as retired.

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It seems in my opinion is that Messi can get the Ballon d'or trophies, he is the best at the moment because he looks impressive at world cup and can bring Argentina to win the world cup, although I want Mbappe which to win that trophies. Because this person is Mbappe, if we see at the top score of the French League as well as the UCL and last in the world cup, he have a chance also to get the ballon d'or but if compared with messi this guy still leads. As for Ronaldo, I'm not sure that after move to Al Nassr, can he still to be a candidate ?

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:09:41 PM

This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.

You have a slightly distorted surname in the survey Erling Haaland, who is having a great season and if it were not for WC, he could make serious competition, although he is now in third place.
So far, yes, the undisputed leader to receive the golden ball is Lionel Messi, Mbape could approach or bypass him if France could win the WC in Qatar, but this did not happen and I think Messi is really the main contender for the Ballon d'Or.

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Quote from: dezoel on January 14, 2023, 04:34:22 PM

I do agree that Messi had a decent year, and that world cup thing is definitely an important aspect of being a good player, being the best player in a team that won the world cup definitely gives you a chance. But at the same time, we are talking about being the best player for a whole year, and I think Mbappe was a lot better than Messi even though they lost at the finals.

It's hard to separate who is the best between MBappe, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and many more. Receiving an award is not just an individual performance but the team, country, club the player is associated with. Everything ranks up their public PR. Do you hear much name of Luka modrić or Robert Lewandowski? Because not many people from around the world is watching Croatian and Serbian leagues. As a county they are not as strong as Brazil, Argentina or France. Ronaldo made it exceptional for Portugal though.

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You can't actually designate a best player around the world. A lot of players have been of great value to the team in their own way. Should you then look at the prizes won? Then certain players would not have a chance on the basis of the World Cup because their team is not good enough for that. Examples are Salah and Mane just to name a few. Since Messi became World Champion with Argentina, the prize will probably go to him again at the next election. But Messi was certainly not the best player at the World Cup. I personally thought Mbappe was much better, as witnessed by all his goals in the final and he has also become the top scorer.

You're being bias if you say Mbappe played better than Messi in that world cup tournament. Out of the 7 matches Argentina played in Messi was the MOTM in 5 of them. In that final too Messi was a better payer than Mbappe. Mbappe was awful, like every other French player till they got the penalty. From the very first match of that tournament Messi was the difference maker for Argentina. He would play the midfield and help control the game, he would create chances, give assist to his players and also score. Mbappe score two penalties and a screamer in the final and all of a sudden he was better than Messi?

Aside the world cup triumph where Messi was unarguably the best player in the tournament, hes also in a pretty good form for PSG with 27 G/A so far. PSG even struggle without him these days. Its always funny when you guys equate the highest goal scorer to the best player. Same way most people never rated Mane at Liverpool because Salah was the highest goal scorer so y'all thought he was the best player.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 13, 2023, 06:14:03 PM

I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I remember in previous years there was quite a bit of controversy over the Ballon d'or because Benzema who probably performed individually the best, didn't get it simply because he didn't achieve anything massive, whereas other candidates did.

If you can't tell, I'm not a massive fan of the Ballon d'or.

Was Luka Modric also the World Cup winner the same year he was awarded the Ballon d'or?
Lots of report says Greizmann who won both Europa and World Cup right, but wasn't awarded that.
It's obviously Messi, you can't just take it to someone else, one day I pray to see Lewandoski getting the Ballon d'or he missed as a result of Covid nineteen. It would be officially Messi at the end of the day.

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:09:41 PM

This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.

It's still 10 months left, the winner will be announced in November, we still don't know the nominated yet. So all about speculation, which mean a player winner of the world cup be a 1 of nomination. when we look: Source

Familiar name like Messi, Mbappe, and Haaland is still dominant. But I don't know how you put the name Ronaldo?, I still confusing his name is still dominating after the controversy he made. So, I hundred % believe he will not get it for 2023. because he don't make any achievements in 2022 besides a piece of negative news.

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I think Mbappe will be Messi's strong competitor for the Ballon d'Or 2022/2023, because both of them played very well also in the world cup and also in the club, besides that I don't see the progress of other great players from national and club levels apart from them

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Quote from: dezoel on January 14, 2023, 04:34:22 PM

I do agree that Messi had a decent year, and that world cup thing is definitely an important aspect of being a good player, being the best player in a team that won the world cup definitely gives you a chance. But at the same time, we are talking about being the best player for a whole year, and I think Mbappe was a lot better than Messi even though they lost at the finals.

It's a difficult year this time around because nobody really had an amazing year so far, lets see how it's going to be, no benzema going around yet, and we still have plenty of time to go around, we still have to wait and see how players will do for a while before we get to make a decision yet.

i have the feeling that they may choose Mbappe. but we don't know the mood of the judges. it can very well goes to Messi. from the poll in this thread, Messi is the only one voted. so it is only between Mbappe and Messi, but who knows?
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I do agree that Messi had a decent year, and that world cup thing is definitely an important aspect of being a good player, being the best player in a team that won the world cup definitely gives you a chance. But at the same time, we are talking about being the best player for a whole year, and I think Mbappe was a lot better than Messi even though they lost at the finals.

It's a difficult year this time around because nobody really had an amazing year so far, lets see how it's going to be, no benzema going around yet, and we still have plenty of time to go around, we still have to wait and see how players will do for a while before we get to make a decision yet.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 13, 2023, 06:14:03 PM

I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I heard in the commentary of the final match they were talking about it.
Argentina wins then Messi will get it but if France wins then it will go to Mbappé. Messi is the deal here.

I don't think these awards can define players like Messi, Mbappé, Christian Ronaldo, Neymar Jnr., Robert Lewandosk, Luka Modrić. All of them are great in their styles and achievements.

Ballon d'or is like an award recognizing the achievements AND the individual skill of the player. It isn't really a great measure of greatness IMO, because only winners can be granted this award even if they played kinda lackluster compared to others who didn't win the Cup. I think everyone here agrees that Messi should be the one receiving this award due to his win, and it's hard to contest this because he's been renowned as one of the most talented players to ever play in the field and he finally got his world cup win.

I will vote for Mbappe,he did better than Messi in the world cup,he was the highest goal scorer and he is a determined player who has so much quality at his young age. Though,the ballon d'or is given to a player based on his achievement on that year and it happens that Argentina won the world cup with the help of Messi,meaning Messi deserves to win the ballon d'or.

Messi is FIFA favourite player and FIFA, will be very happy to declare him the winner of this year.Messi has scored more goals than Mbappe,973 goals in his appearance on 1003 matches. He is also the highest ballon d'or winner. I guess Messi has come to his last state of winning,Mbappe will be the player we will be looking up to.

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Messi will very likely be the winner and his team mates will be a strong contender for the Ballon d'Or this time, Erling Haaland has really stood out after playing for City but it looks like he still needs some time before he can get one, but is there a bookmaker who has this markets now, it's interesting if I can find it I tried to check the stake but haven't found it yet

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on January 14, 2023, 01:19:06 AM

Hi guys
it is in the new lately that Christiano Ronaldo has sold his 2013 ballon d'or trophy to Israel's richest man - Idan Ofer

According to the report on dailypost, it is said that the plaque was sold at a whooping 532,000 pounds and the entire amount going to Make A Wish Charity Organization.
The buyer - Idan Ofer is said to be worth over over 8.1 billion pounds, so this proves he is indeed capable...

What do you guys think about this?

you can read the entire update on Dailypost.ng

I think that if Ronaldo wants to sell the ballon d'or, I think it is his choice, we all certainly don't have to comment on his decision, after all, many sports athletes sell their medals and trophies even though they should be kept for collection and made into memories. history for him in his old age

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Hi guys
it is in the new lately that Christiano Ronaldo has sold his 2013 ballon d'or trophy to Israel's richest man - Idan Ofer

According to the report on dailypost, it is said that the plaque was sold at a whooping 532,000 pounds and the entire amount going to Make A Wish Charity Organization.
The buyer - Idan Ofer is said to be worth over over 8.1 billion pounds, so this proves he is indeed capable...

What do you guys think about this?

you can read the entire update on Dailypost.ng

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There's no need any discussion or prediction to see the winner of Ballon d'Or in this year, it will be 100% Messi.

I know there's many good players like Mbappe who have carried France to score 3 goals alone in the final world cup, Lewandowski who have carried Barcelona into become top 1 position in La Liga, Haaland who have carried Manchester City and currently become the top scorer in Premier League, and De Bruyne who currently become the best midfielders of his job become a play maker for Manchester City.

Ronaldo, Neymar and Salah has zero chance.

From my personal opinion, Mbappe or Haaland should receive the Ballon d'Or, but many judges are biased with Messi or Ronaldo, so Messi will take the place.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 13, 2023, 11:33:08 PM

Quote from: Welsh on January 13, 2023, 06:14:03 PM

I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I heard in the commentary of the final match they were talking about it.
Argentina wins then Messi will get it but if France wins then it will go to Mbappé. Messi is the deal here.

I don't think these awards can define players like Messi, Mbappé, Christian Ronaldo, Neymar Jnr., Robert Lewandosk, Luka Modrić. All of them are great in their styles and achievements.

Ballon d'or is like an award recognizing the achievements AND the individual skill of the player. It isn't really a great measure of greatness IMO, because only winners can be granted this award even if they played kinda lackluster compared to others who didn't win the Cup. I think everyone here agrees that Messi should be the one receiving this award due to his win, and it's hard to contest this because he's been renowned as one of the most talented players to ever play in the field and he finally got his world cup win.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 13, 2023, 06:14:03 PM

I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I heard in the commentary of the final match they were talking about it.
Argentina wins then Messi will get it but if France wins then it will go to Mbappé. Messi is the deal here.

I don't think these awards can define players like Messi, Mbappé, Christian Ronaldo, Neymar Jnr., Robert Lewandosk, Luka Modrić. All of them are great in their styles and achievements.

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You are right, Messi won the world cup which is one of his greatest achievement in history. He is the one that has won ballon d'or more than any player in history. The world cup is the greatest amongst all competition in football and Messi has really shown that he is the best this year with a brilliant performance in the world cup and in PSG.

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You can't actually designate a best player around the world. A lot of players have been of great value to the team in their own way. Should you then look at the prizes won? Then certain players would not have a chance on the basis of the World Cup because their team is not good enough for that. Examples are Salah and Mane just to name a few. Since Messi became World Champion with Argentina, the prize will probably go to him again at the next election. But Messi was certainly not the best player at the World Cup. I personally thought Mbappe was much better, as witnessed by all his goals in the final and he has also become the top scorer.

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I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I remember in previous years there was quite a bit of controversy over the Ballon d'or because Benzema who probably performed individually the best, didn't get it simply because he didn't achieve anything massive, whereas other candidates did.

If you can't tell, I'm not a massive fan of the Ballon d'or.

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This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.

Topic: Ballon d'or Prediction Thread 2022/2023 (Read 263 times)