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Topic: BC GAME SCAMMING ME OUT OF MY BONUS WINNINGS (Read 510 times)

legendary
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November 11, 2023, 10:06:34 AM
#46
hELLO DINER, yes i can, should i do it here or on that new thread off mine ?
I think on that new one, right ?!

cuz this one too messy alr ?!

Well, if you are sure I think it will be better on the new one but you'd better first read this:

That's because they're not under CEG [casino e-gaming] , their license is under CIL [Curacao Interactive Licensing] , as shown on the bottom of their website, on the seal of validation



hero member
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November 11, 2023, 08:26:07 AM
#45
Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

Hey Jannn can you share screenshots or any proof of what you are saying? I'm thinking of opening a reputation thread myself about BC GAME, but it would be important to be able to prove what you're saying.

hELLO DINER, yes i can, should i do it here or on that new thread off mine ?
I think on that new one, right ?!

cuz this one too messy alr ?!
legendary
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November 11, 2023, 04:52:03 AM
#44
Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

Hey Jannn can you share screenshots or any proof of what you are saying? I'm thinking of opening a reputation thread myself about BC GAME, but it would be important to be able to prove what you're saying.
legendary
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November 10, 2023, 11:42:00 AM
#43
You should update your OP or create separate topic about the result of your case on CasinoGuru and other arbitrage services because this is crucial on establishing your case.

I think something like that should be done. BC.GAME is active on the forum and should say something here but has not done so, having received several accusations recently. At the moment he has a good reputation but he wouldn't be the first to take advantage of it.
hero member
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November 10, 2023, 11:32:00 AM
#42
THE TRUE DEFINITION OF '' TL:DR '' IS = I'M A FUCKING USELESS LAZY FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT  ''

IN MY OPINION....
ANYWAYS

HERE'S THE SCREENSHOT SHOWING THIS ASSHOLES LOST THE CASE NOT ONLY AGAINST ME, BUT AGAINST @earlypaco




AND WE ARE BOTH OWED AROUND $10000.00 + USD BY THEM, '' COMBINED ''

MYSELF AROUND $3248 AND EARLY PACO OVER $7000

THE CASINO GURU STAFF HAVE PROCLAIMED THAT THEY SHOULD '' HONOR '' OUR WINNINGS, AND PAY THEM
BUT THEY ARE NOT GIVING A DAMN FUCK ABOUT THE COMPLAINT ANYMORE AND SEEMS THAT THEIR INTENTION IS TO WALK AWAY WITH THE SCAM, THEN !

copper member
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November 10, 2023, 11:25:49 AM
#41
FUCKING SCUM ASSHOLE CASINO PIECE OF SHIT

LOST THE BATTLE ON CASINO GURU AGAINST ME AND EARLYPACO AND STILL DECIDING THAT IT'S BETTER TO WALK AWAY WITHOUT PAYING
AND CARRY THE SHAME OF BEING CONSIDERED A = SCAM

RATHER THAN PAY US OUR MONEY

FUCKING THRASH CASINO SON OF A BITCH

You should update your OP or create separate topic about the result of your case on CasinoGuru and other arbitrage services because this is crucial on establishing your case.

Upload picture on talkimg.com and post it here directly in bbcode format to make your thread easy to understand since the whole OP content is on TLDR format. BC.game is still operating here without any repercussions about their action against your case so you should present properly the result of your case as evidence about their ignorance for their responsibility.

I personally believe that you should have that bonus since it’s on your balance and not BCD.
hero member
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November 10, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
#40
FUCKING SCUM ASSHOLE CASINO PIECE OF SHIT

LOST THE BATTLE ON CASINO GURU AGAINST ME AND EARLYPACO AND STILL DECIDING THAT IT'S BETTER TO WALK AWAY WITHOUT PAYING
AND CARRY THE SHAME OF BEING CONSIDERED A = SCAM

RATHER THAN PAY US OUR MONEY

FUCKING THRASH CASINO SON OF A BITCH
hero member
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I'm in the same boat as you are, if my complaint with CasinoGuru doesn't get resolved, Ill start looking elsewhere to find some honest party interested in putting a stop to these scams.

https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to

Hey earlypaco, the people from CGB board commission have replied to my email about the situation stating there's nothing they can do about this motherfucking scammers.

Here's their response, check:

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Thank you for your email.

 

Unfortunately, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board (GCB) is currently not able to handle your request.

 

We are actively in the process of modernizing our gambling legislation and setting up our online gaming policies and procedures. As soon as we will formally start handling complaints, we will announce this on our website. We expect this to be the case in the first half of 2024.

 

We kindly point out in advance that the GCB will not investigate all complaints. For example, the GCB does not have the authority to adjudicate disputes between the complainant and the accused party and to settle claims or award damages.

 

Only if a complaint indicates a violation of the applicable regulations, the supervisory task of the GCB entails that this will be investigated further.

 

For the time being, we kindly suggest, that at all times you seek legal advice for any claims you may have vis-à-vis the license holder or other party or parties. We refer to the following page that contains a list of law firms established in Curacao that may be able to assist you:

http://www.dutchcaribbeanlegalportal.com/legal-contacts/law-firms?sid=102:Law-Firms-Curacao

So i think i'm gonna move this forward and hire a competent law firm to pursuit my fucking winnings + a dividend from legitimate embarassing damages.
I'll just wait for the resolution by casino guru first before pulling the trigger with this.

hero member
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I'm in the same boat as you are, if my complaint with CasinoGuru doesn't get resolved, Ill start looking elsewhere to find some honest party interested in putting a stop to these scams.

https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to

yeah brudda if this casino guru do not resolve your case send a email to this niggas here: https://www.gamingcontrolcuracao.org/contact
they are '' cc'ed '' on my case already from the curação egaming CEG that attached them to the convo, from this email here > [email protected]
and they should reply me within 7 business days (some days has passed with no reply yet but need to wait more, let's see)
newbie
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I'm in the same boat as you are, if my complaint with CasinoGuru doesn't get resolved, Ill start looking elsewhere to find some honest party interested in putting a stop to these scams.

https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to
full member
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CEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.”

Not 100% sure what this mumbo  jumbo means , (seriously why cant they write in simple words)

But im getting the idea that BCGAME license from curacao might have expired in 2021 since the pdf that they have linked in their website is dated 2021
hero member
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Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

So they simply said they had a licence from Curaçao, when it was false. I wonder how many more are like this, because every now and then new casinos appear that don't have problems to deposit and then they hide behind licenses and regulations to put problems for withdrawals. They run a signature campaign that has been put on hold and there have been other accusations, which al together seems to confirm that it is 100% scam.

Yes, so now CEG has said that it's forwarded my case to '' other '' commission board, that SHOULD have competent authority to handle and to be able to move my request further as per this text on below

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CEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.”


Recommendation: handle the referred matter within 7 (seven) days after referral


CEG recommends under the CCRG 2022 that the authorities provide the said individual with an answer within 7 (seven) days after referral, as, for AML/CFT purposes, CEG is not authorised/has not been engaged to determine, in compliance with article 4(5), CCRG, whether the message contains a description of events that may qualify for criminal referral of either an unusual structure or act or conduct by player (a participant as meant in article 1(bo), CCRG 2022), operator (a person as meant in article 1(bj), CCRG 2022 and/or both.


If you are seeking assistance in handling this matter and/or information on available subscriptions for complaint handling/ICHS outside of CEG’s Ecosystem, please contact your CEG B2B representative/contact person directly and include the ICHS ticket number as mentioned in the subject line of this email.

Best regards,
Curaçao eGaming | ADR Department

so let's wait and see i'll update shortly once i hear something back again
legendary
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Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

So they simply said they had a licence from Curaçao, when it was false. I wonder how many more are like this, because every now and then new casinos appear that don't have problems to deposit and then they hide behind licenses and regulations to put problems for withdrawals. They run a signature campaign that has been put on hold and there have been other accusations, which al together seems to confirm that it is 100% scam.
hero member
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As said, CEG does offer ICHS, a non-mandatory service that is available free of charge to all players asking for support pertaining to IP Operators within the CEG-Ecosystem. However in this case, CEG cannot offer ICHS free of charge and/or without prior engagement. CEG has determined that it has not been authorised to make any determinations in this case, as the potential complaint pertains to an IP operator that exists outside of the CEG-Ecosystem. The brand, as meant in article 1(i), CCRG 2022:


(1) may be regulated by a licence holder, other than CEG; or

(2) may have in the past been regulated by CEG, however not at the time the said message was received and/or the operator engaged with another licence holder without proper deboarding with CEG; or

(3) may be unregulated and it is offered as a falsification as meant in article 2(s), CCRG 2022 of an original under the false appearance that it has obtained the rights from the licence holder or any third party to do so, such as however not limited to breach of intellectual property rights and the use of a facsimile aimed at creating the false appearance of being the original; or

(4) may be unregulated as meant in article 2(a), CCRG 2022.


In order to check/re verify whether an IP Operator is regulated by CEG, please use CEG’s licensee register: https://www.curacao-egaming.com/public-and-players/authenticity


CEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.”

Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol
hero member
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im curious, why do you think towers is a game of skill and not chance ? since every hand is unique and results dont depend on previous/next hands

Because the tower game is similar to zener cards / card guessing games (which can thus be TRAINED/IMPROVED) different than just pressing buttons on a slot machine and '' hoping lady luck '' would help you.

It's methods used by " thought " training schools.

refer to examples:

1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_39TDX_r8gY
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTgHq9qPGr0

Where essentially the object in question is hidden from sight and it takes a good deal of '' guessing '' on the individual (high use of brain)
 to make the correct '' prediction '' of which tile/square is the correct answer.

This requires a lot of brain effort, and trained guessing skills.
Certainly, the tower game can be played RANDOMLY like a game of chance, as well.

But a '' trained '' human on guessing skill, can excel easily, on this kinds of games, and thus beat them/lower the house advantage significantly and eventually reach some fat payouts/jackpots this way; provided the game is FAIR and have no cheating mechanisms into play (which most casinos sadly employ as they are not here to lose $$$ despite their bullshit excuses about PROVABLY FAIR system, which is a lie  Cheesy)

A trained individual would have above average probability of predicting the outcome correctly (with odds of like 1:30 of reoccurring or better, for example)
and this is more than enough to beat the game once or a few times, putting the player in significant profits.

On tower, to reach the top and hit a jackpot, one does not even need to be super skilled on guessing cards/guessing games.

One only need a SMALL DEGREE of advantage/skills (in a '' predictable '' way/repeating basis, not just a random lucky run but on a test of at last 100x or more rounds)  in order to be massively profitable and hit one or several jackpots in the proccess...
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so, rohang was right all along.

yea ofcourse, BCGAME has been changing the TnC's but theyre always with hidden catches like this.

nice selection of '' skill '' based games (like tower, cards, etc)
that depends on skills rather than chance, and can be beatable.


im curious, why do you think towers is a game of skill and not chance ? since every hand is unique and results dont depend on previous/next hands
hero member
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I would never deposit in a casino like this in my life

Yeah 100% right, i'm also not playing on this motherfuckers anymore......

By the way let me ask: You mentioned not playing on '' crypto '' casinos anymore.

So, which casino are you using this days ?
Could you name a few where you been playing if you don't mind ?

I'm always trying to find new casinos WORTHY of being played at, and with a nice selection of '' skill '' based games (like tower, cards, etc)
that depends on skills rather than chance, and can be beatable.

And: As a last resort based on a argument similar to yours (of it being illegal) i'll try to open dispute directly with CEG (Curação Egaming, their regulators) as soon as my claim dispute finishes, on casino guru, then....
legendary
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so, rohang was right all along.

In case anyone gets lost amidst all the shouting from the OP:

<...> did you think about it before depositing ?
I have not deposited since the new bcgame update there  and  i never will

you needed to read their bonus rules

https://bc.game/help/bonus

"• The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from Deposit Bonus will be 100% of the bonus amount. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited."

Thats why they forfeited  your balance, but i guess they owe u 30 $ more (129 payout and not 99)

Deposit bonuses are almost always with hidden catches like this, casinos dont give free money  to people period.

<...>

yea no, casinos are the ones hustling people with these deposit bonuses

I believe such a rule would be illegal in regulated gambling in Europe. But since the casino has a Curaçao licence, arguing about the legitimacy of the rule is basically a waste of time.

So if you deposit $100 to get a bonus of another $100, it doesn't matter if you win $100,000, they will only let you withdraw a maximum of another $100? I would never deposit in a casino like this in my life, and I haven't played in crypto casinos for a couple of months now, but you have to be very careful with these rules, because casinos tend to copy them.
legendary
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Dear Adam





The player made a deposit of 129.215591 USDT and received an equal 100% bonus, resulting in an additional 129.215591 USDT.



Key points from the deposit bonus terms include:

- Players must use their real funds before tapping into the bonus.

- After fulfilling wagering requirements, the maximum amount that can be withdrawn from the bonus is equivalent to the bonus amount itself (capped at $10k), meaning 129.215591 USDT in this scenario.



Here's a breakdown of the events:

1. The player utilised their entire deposit, reducing it to $0.

2. Gameplay then continued using the bonus funds of 129.215591 USDT.

3. The player then met the wagering requirements.

4. At this point, the player's account balance stood at 3379.132111 USDT.

5. The excess 3249.91652 USDT was subsequently deducted.

6. The allowable amount, 129.215591 USDT, was left for the player to use normally.



While the sequence aligns perfectly with our deposit bonus terms, I recognise the potential confusion from the term "withdrawable funds" in the popup. Although the balance was technically "withdrawable", the terms imposed a cap, resulting in the addition of only 129.215591 USDT.



Best regards,



BC.GAME
so, rohang was right all along. that being said, seeing that it was shown on the screenshot that the withdrawable amount is $3k+ I am not surprised that you thought that was the amount you would be able to withdraw(even me would probably think that would be the amount I'd be able to withdraw) they really need to fix how much exactly a gambler will be able to withdraw on their "rollover details" pop-up when it comes to deposit bonuses, they even admitted themselves that what shown on the rollover detail could cause confusion.
hero member
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HERE'S THEIR LATEST RESPONSE BELOW TO THE CASE ON CASINO GURU:
IF CASINO GURU DOES NOT RESOLVE THIS, WHICH MOST LIKELY THEY WON'T I'M GONNA OPEN A OFFICIAL DISPUTE WITH THE CEG DIRECTLY AGAINST THEM FOR MY WINNINGS.

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I understand your feelings on this matter. However, it is crucial to thoroughly go over the terms and conditions for each promotion in any casino, as they might vary based on the specific offer. If anything seems unclear, our live support is always available to clarify any doubts. It's worth noting that there was an option to opt out of the bonus as well.



We always aim to provide a positive experience for our users. While I regret that this situation didn't meet your expectations, the bonus was applied in line with the terms. Unfortunately, we can't do anything further regarding this specific case.



Best regards,



BC.GAME

'' PETTY '' SCAM CASINO MAN !
WITH FUNNY ASS BONUS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
DOES NOT WANTS TO LOSE EVEN $10 BUCKS, THEY JUST WANT TO STEAL / TO WIN.


legendary
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What is starting to smell a bit fishy to me is that the representative does not come to this thread and give public explanations as we have seen in other threads. It seems to be only private communications with the OP and if you think you've done everything right, or even if you think you've made a mistake but you're working it out, there should be no problem explaining it in a thread that accuses you of scamming.
hero member
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BIG TIME SCAMMERS MAN AND FURTHERMORE: ONLY TOOK ACTION / STARTED REPLYING OR SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THE SITUATION
AFTER I HAVE REPORTED THEM TO CASINO GURU, FIRST OF ALL

THIS DEMONSTRATES THEIR CLEAR ' COMPROMISE ' WITH THEIR REPUTATION LOLLLLLLLLLLLL  Grin
hero member
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FUNNY ASS REPLIES FROM BC.GAME TO MY CASE, ON CASINO GURU COMPLAINT RESOLUTION BOARD  Cheesy
THEY DOING ALL IN THEIR POWER TO TRY TO DENY THE PAYOUT OF MY WINNINGS LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
EVEN STATING THAT '' IF I HAD NOT USED UP MY DEPOSIT / LOST MY DEPOSIT AND SUBSEQUENTLY PLAYED ONLY WITH THE BONUS, I WOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE WINNINGS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL "
FUNNY ASS JOKERS !

HERE'S THEIR REPLIES IN FULL


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Dear Adam





The player made a deposit of 129.215591 USDT and received an equal 100% bonus, resulting in an additional 129.215591 USDT.



Key points from the deposit bonus terms include:

- Players must use their real funds before tapping into the bonus.

- After fulfilling wagering requirements, the maximum amount that can be withdrawn from the bonus is equivalent to the bonus amount itself (capped at $10k), meaning 129.215591 USDT in this scenario.



Here's a breakdown of the events:

1. The player utilised their entire deposit, reducing it to $0.

2. Gameplay then continued using the bonus funds of 129.215591 USDT.

3. The player then met the wagering requirements.

4. At this point, the player's account balance stood at 3379.132111 USDT.

5. The excess 3249.91652 USDT was subsequently deducted.

6. The allowable amount, 129.215591 USDT, was left for the player to use normally.



While the sequence aligns perfectly with our deposit bonus terms, I recognise the potential confusion from the term "withdrawable funds" in the popup. Although the balance was technically "withdrawable", the terms imposed a cap, resulting in the addition of only 129.215591 USDT.



Best regards,



BC.GAME

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Hello Adam



If a player has used up their deposit and is playing with bonus funds, then the mentioned situation applies. However, if they still have remaining deposit funds, they would receive their winnings as usual. It's crucial to highlight that we later modified this rule, allowing players to use their bonus funds initially and potentially double their deposit if they meet the wagering criteria. Furthermore, at the end of the end of last week, we've temporarily suspended this bonus to implement further enhancements.



Further information of the ratio of wagering for different games is within the deposit bonus terms - https://bc.game/help/bonus



Best regards,



BC.GAME



FUNNY ASS SCAM JOKERS Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
hero member
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It seems they don't give a fuck about their reputation at all and have nothing to say neither about my case anymore neither about the other 2 cases of scam opened against them here as well.

It's taking too much of time to resolve, i'll give them until next tuesday max, to resolve this.
If not i'm gonna open an official dispute against them soon, with the CEG directly (Curação Egaming)
Which is their license regulator...

Pretty sure with all my evidences i'll win this and they will have to pay my winnings, and stop being fucking dirty bitch ass scammers.
hero member
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According to this image here: https://imgbb.com/DYYr4G2

The BC.GAME representative said he was already in contact with the devs/back-end team for a resolution, that was almost 48 hours ago already
And since then, he disappeared from the forum again and left my case as well as the other 2 guys who have scam reports against BC.GAME unattended, as well.

Very good display of '' care '' for their reputation.
copper member
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1) The balance of the bonus is REAL USDT BALANCE (not BCD bullshit) and thus = WITHDRAWABLE

This is correct. BC bonus system is in the form of BCD tokens locked until wagering requirements meet. This only means that you use real balance to play and win that amount which is not covered by the 100% max profit in the bonus since it’s from your real balance wagering. Those max profit capped is only for those locked BCD once claimed and use to bet.

It’s really utterly useless to have a terms that will limit a profit on a real balance just because there’s an active bonus balance that is currently locked. I hope you can get your profit. Although it’s really through that BC become stricter due to multiple bonus abuse on their casino recently. They revised most of their bonuses structure just to avoid this abusers.

PS: You should use a self-moderated topic next time if you want to have an off-topic free thread.
hero member
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It's about an alleged BC.GAME scam, about which you have provided evidence, only that some of us are waiting to see what BC GAME says in this thread about it.

I SAY: GIVE N TAKE, RIGHT ?!

They (and YOU as well) came here to POLLUTE my thread with LOADS of OFF-TOPIC BULLSHIT, and LAME accusations WITHOUT ANY PROOF / EVIDENCE against me !
So i just did the same then (Since the thread BELONGS TO ME, after all )

Now, then, let's agree on a rule: '' No More Off Topic '' on here and we all patiently wait for BC.GAME to have a word (and a resolution) on this clear scam, then!
legendary
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Also if you are not a DT, you should at least try to help people on this board instead of adding salt to their wounds. However if Op had scammed some people in the past, I would have stopped  the casino to pay him anything and would have requested for confiscation of his balance to make the victim(s) whole.  Otherwise have some decency when you are judging people "you don't know".

Do you also say this to fulfill your post count requirements? I don't think I need to add anything more to what Plaguedeath has said in this regard.

First of all: REFRAIN FROM PARTICIPATING / POLLUTING MY THREAD, WITH NON-RELATED SUBJECT.

If you believe it's off topic you can report it and if moderators agree, those comments will be deleted.

THE  THREAD IS ABOUT THE OBVIOUS BC.GAME SCAM, WHAT'S IN MATTER HERE IS THE OBVIOUS SCAM ON THE BC GAME SIDE, NOT = ANYTHING ELSE.

It's about an alleged BC.GAME scam, about which you have provided evidence, only that some of us are waiting to see what BC GAME says in this thread about it.

Btw your next post on this thread is totally off topic.
hero member
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You mean that apart from your failed attempts to scam on the forum and your abuse of the trust sytem, you are now also the owner of the forum and decide who can and cannot reply to your thread? I would expect nothing less from you.


@Op, lol I like the way you talk about hustling them, while you forget "house always win", what if in the future you lose more than $3000+ to them or any other casino? Would that be hustling?  

I wonder why nobody from that casino post here to clear things up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU9TouRnO84
Always husssssssssssssssssssssslin  Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin, always !

For this end no worry my boy, remember the old saying: '' A DAY OF THE HUNTER, AND A DAY OF THE PREY ''

I just try to make sure that ON MY DAY (the day of the prey) i take from them MUCH MORE than they took from me, hahahahaha  Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

" I SAY: GIVE N TAKE "
I learned this from father santa, man

hero member
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@OP is trust abuse, check this where he leave a feedback without any good reason.

First of all: REFRAIN FROM PARTICIPATING / POLLUTING MY THREAD, WITH NON-RELATED SUBJECT.
THE  THREAD IS ABOUT THE OBVIOUS BC.GAME SCAM, WHAT'S IN MATTER HERE IS THE OBVIOUS SCAM ON THE BC GAME SIDE, NOT = ANYTHING ELSE.

This is last comment i'll make on the subject.

Now: This fucking faggots left me -negative trust for no reason, without having NOTHING to do with the loan thread owner as well, i just retributed them the favor, nothing special here...

Besides that it's forbidden to '' accuse '' someone of scam/scammer WITHOUT PROOF (like in my case here where i have PLENTY OF PROOF against bc game) and that's EXACTLY WHAT THEY DONE (giving me -neg for no reason) when the loan owners who were supposed to do it HAVE NOT, and quite the contrary TREATED ME WITH RESPECTA AND POLITELY DENIED THE LOAN, WHICH WAS 100% ACCEPTABLE behavior on my end !

But this assholes had ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF about me having scammed anyone in the past, or of BEING A SCAMMER at all ANYWHERE, and on the loan thread in questions i was offering all sorts of validation/proof of the legitimacy of my request to the loan thread owners, like doing KYC and other types of warranty to assure them of my good intentions of paying the loan back on time !

This gave them NO RIGHTS to give me -neg for no reason, specially under the guise/accusation of SCAMMER (like they did !)
NEITHER IT DOES = TO YOU AS WELL.

SO STAY THE F*********** AWAY FROM MY THREAD RIGHT NOW.

This is LAST post allowed regarding UNRELATED subject which is not in question here (the issue with BC GAME, which is LEGITIMATE and is PENDING A RESOLUTION ON THEIR END).

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Wow, do you really believe if someone asks for loan without collateral is a scammer? And where is this trust abuse? Is OP a DT member? Because as long as you are not a DT member, it doesn't matter what you do with trust system, even if you were a DT member nobody would care if you abuse it or not, I have evidence to prove it.

I wonder why nobody from that casino post here to clear things up?
A not reputable user ask a loan without collateral is definitely a scammer e.g. @OP.

While someone who has a good reputation e.g. green trust, trade history, joining in a signature campaign, etc will not be a scammer and many users can trust them for asking a loan without collateral.

@OP is trust abuse, check this where he leave a feedback without any good reason.

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ImThour 2023-04-11 LEARN TO MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND STAYING AWAY OF OTHER PEOPLE'S THREAD IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT SON OF A BITCH
DireWolfM14 2023-02-01 GRAB MY NEGATIVE TRUST ASSHOLE. YOU GAVE ME NEGATIVE FOR NO REASON. LEARN TO MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.
DarkStar_ 2022-02-02 FUCKING SELECTIVE SCAMMER SON OF A BITCH WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ME AND LEFT ME A NEGATIVE TRUST FOR NO REASON
JUST BECAUSE I ASKED FOR A LOAN AFTER BEING ABSENT FROM THE FORUM FOR 2 YEARS DIE MOTHERFUCKER !
icopress 2022-02-02 FUCKING SON OF A BITCH WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ME AND LEFT ME A NEGATIVE TRUST FOR NO REASON
JUST BECAUSE I ASKED FOR A LOAN AFTER BEING ABSENT FROM THE FORUM FOR 2 YEARS DIE MOTHERFUCKER !

You're wrong if you think non DT users can do anything they want, before someone can become a DT or can be trusted, they must start to leave an appropriate feedback when they were non DT users. DT members are care with non DT users who abuse trust feedback, they will distrust those users.


Bc.game is one of big casino, they must be taking care a lot complaints, just give them more time.
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You mean that apart from your failed attempts to scam on the forum and your abuse of the trust sytem, you are now also the owner of the forum and decide who can and cannot reply to your thread? I would expect nothing less from you.
Wow, do you really believe if someone asks for loan without collateral is a scammer? And where is this trust abuse? Is OP a DT member? Because as long as you are not a DT member, it doesn't matter what you do with trust system, even if you were a DT member nobody would care if you abuse it or not, I have evidence to prove it.


Also if you are not a DT, you should at least try to help people on this board instead of adding salt to their wounds. However if Op had scammed some people in the past, I would have stopped  the casino to pay him anything and would have requested for confiscation of his balance to make the victim(s) whole.  Otherwise have some decency when you are judging people "you don't know".


@Op, lol I like the way you talk about hustling them, while you forget "house always win", what if in the future you lose more than $3000+ to them or any other casino? Would that be hustling? 

I wonder why nobody from that casino post here to clear things up?
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I see, so what happened wasn't because of what rohang have mentioned? if you don't mind, can you provide screenshots of the conversation between you and their support? it's not that I don't believe you but it'll be a good idea to include this as part of the evidence just in case. also, good luck.


 
I don't think the OP is talking about hustling the gambling site, I think he was talking about the winnings.

Yes buddy THAT is the confusion that he's reffering to on his response to me privately, here on this photo

- https://ibb.co/DYYr4G2

You see ?
The confusion stems from 3 things

1) The balance of the bonus is REAL USDT BALANCE (not BCD bullshit) and thus = WITHDRAWABLE

2) Despite that SHADY bonus terms, nothing CLEARLY states on there in the end that " 100% OF YOUR WINNINGS WILL BE FORFEITED AND IT'S USELESS TO SPEND 3 DAYS '' HUSTLING '' WINNINGS, BECAUSE IN THE END YOU GONNA END UP WITH $100 BUCKS ONLY, SO DON'T EVEN TRY."

I used a bit of a joking tone now on above sentence, but you get my point ?
There's NOTHING stating CLEARLY about that on the bonus terms (if there was you can bet MY ASS i would not even wasted my precious time playing that much)!

3) The motivation that kept me playing was that on the ROLLOVER page (which clearly shows on that image i presented here previously) it states that ALL THAT MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM ME in the end of the session in the video, suddenly, was WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS.

And FROM THIS is that's steeming = THE CONFUSION !
And causing NOT ONLY ME but = SEVERAL OTHER PLAYERS
Who're also opening complaints either on askgamblers or casinoguru RIGHT NOW, as well as some people on here too although not officially like me but complaining on their own thread against BC.GAME too.

Now buddy i'm sorry to say (not for you just ranting) but i'm a a 100% HONEST + FAIR PLAY KYC VERIFIED '' GAMBLER '' and if there's something i'm entitled to
on every casino, is MY WINNINGS, this CANNOT be taken away from me under ANY CIRCUNSTANCES !

So this argument that the winnings FROM the bonus given alongside the RIDICULOUS 200x/$50.000 rollover that was A NIGHTMARE to be completed, could be TAKEN AWAY from me or from any other player REGARDLESS of '' how much '' they had accumulated simply MAKES NO F************* SENSE not here not on any other world/universe, buddy !

Nobody in their SANE mind would play $50.000 (and WIN !) to ACCEPT peacefully to keep only $100 bucks out of this !

So this UNCLEAR bonus term is = Twisted
And they HAVE TO PAY MY WINNINGS and everybody else winnings who're involved into this confusion, as well !


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UPDATE: The issue is currently undergoing a resolution, as the BC.GAME representative is taking care of communicating with the dev team to resolve.
They said many '' legitimate players '' (like me) got affected by the EXTREME security measures employed to combat the fraudsters/scammers and bonus abusers and this resulted in a huge mess.

So the issue is being resolved currently, i'll update again once i get anything new.
Thanks.
I see, so what happened wasn't because of what rohang have mentioned? if you don't mind, can you provide screenshots of the conversation between you and their support? it's not that I don't believe you but it'll be a good idea to include this as part of the evidence just in case. also, good luck.



I have HUSTLED them,
yea no, casinos are the ones hustling people with these deposit bonuses
I don't think the OP is talking about hustling the gambling site, I think he was talking about the winnings.
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UPDATE: The issue is currently undergoing a resolution, as the BC.GAME representative is taking care of communicating with the dev team to resolve.
They said many '' legitimate players '' (like me) got affected by the EXTREME security measures employed to combat the fraudsters/scammers and bonus abusers and this resulted in a huge mess.

So the issue is being resolved currently, i'll update again once i get anything new.
Thanks.
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Furthermore i'm not leaving this issue = unattended even

I'm bringing them some HEAT   / SERIOUS TROUBLE by opening a scam report also on ASKGAMBLERS, CASINOGURU and directly to CURAÇÃO EGAMING (CEG)
Which is THEIR REGULATOR in case the other 2 avenues fail !


It's TIME TO END this casinos SUPREMACIST way of thinking they can do WHATEVER THE F***** they want with clients this days and STEAL OUR MONEY like that, and we have to take it because to them we are just some addicted idiot fool '' gamblers '' is it not ?!

Not with me, buddy !
Not with me, certainly !

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Who in their SANE mind would sit down for 48 hours and keep '' playing '' games,

you did, did you think about it before depositing ?
you needed to read their bonus rules


Sorry dude but this is BIGGEST BULLSHIT i have ever seen here.
First of all the UNQUESTIONABLE ARGUMENT in position here is: '' WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS '' is = $3426 USD, period.
No question about it.

Again i repeat: " WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS " is clearly mentioned on the rollover page, did not you seen it ?
So that's END OF STORY here, if it's WITHDRAWABLE i have THE RIGHT to withdraw it !
Besides that I HAVE FULFILLED the '' STUPID '' wager requirement rule of 200x / $50.000,00 USD (a hell of a task) so ALL MY WINNINGS = MINE
They don't have the right to '' FORFEIT WINNINGS '' like that and leave me with bullshit $100 bucks !

At last not WHEN IT'S NOT CLEARLY STATED ON THEIR BONUS TERMS (which it CLEARLY is not when there's 2 things corroborating with my argument)

1) THE ' WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS ' THING and 2 the ABSENCE of a clause stating: ALL YOUR WINNINGS BALANCE BEYOND YOUR ORIGINAL DEPOSIT AMOUNT, WILL BE 100% FORFEITED/VOIDED AND YOU WILL BE LEFT ONLY WITH YOUR ORIGINAL DEPOSIT IN THE END !

Have you seen SUCH A MESSAGE written on their terms ?
NO right ?!

AND AGAIN POINT NUMBER #2 BRO: '' WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS ! '' clearly on one of the screenshots, how they EXPLAIN THAT ?
That the $3426 is WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS and i did not got the chance to actually WITHDRAW it ?

So sorry and no offense/nothing personal buddy but you are talking complete BS here in defense of BC game.

So YES i have thinked about it at time of depositing and that was PRECISELY why i kept betting (because the funds were WITHDRAWABLE as per the rollover page!)
And to the other '' little guy '' who posted here on above stating my way of writing elucidates that i'm ANGRY

YES at last he made good use of the 2 neurons he only have on his brains: I'm ANGRY and i have THE RIGHT to be so, specially when people like BC GAME tries to STEAL MONEY from me.


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Who in their SANE mind would sit down for 48 hours and keep '' playing '' games,

you did, did you think about it before depositing ?
I have not deposited since the new bcgame update there  and  i never will

you needed to read their bonus rules

https://bc.game/help/bonus

"• The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from Deposit Bonus will be 100% of the bonus amount. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited."

Thats why they forfeited  your balance, but i guess they owe u 30 $ more (129 payout and not 99)

Deposit bonuses are almost always with hidden catches like this, casinos dont give free money  to people period.

On they day the update came  out they had this rule as well "max bet of  5$ will be allowed towards bonus rollover"

I  cant find it anymore but such TnC are designed to not pay users, since  most dont read terms before  depositing.


I have HUSTLED them,

yea no, casinos are the ones hustling people with these deposit bonuses
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By the way, as angry as you are, that way of writing by mixing capital letters and bold type doesn't help your case. And repeating in the second part what you said in the first part doesn't help your case either.
How does it not help his case though? Elaborate on that because the only reason why it won't help is that Bold typeface means OP wants to highlight something, I do agree on the 2nd part though but given that you don't give any reason why OP is in the wrong with his way of posting, I think you're also in the wrong here, I haven't read anywhere in the forum that it's a bad case for you if you set your post all in bold.

If you didn't skip the rest of the argument, you might have a clearer picture. Let me explain it to you graphically: see that I bolded only two words of the quote?

When you put capitall letters on the internet it means you are shouting, and if you put a whole part of it in bold you are not emphasising anything other than how angry you are. Overall, lots of capital letters, all bold first part text and repetition does not help the reader's comprehension of the case other than to make it clear that the OP is very angry.  
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By the way, as angry as you are, that way of writing by mixing capital letters and bold type doesn't help your case. And repeating in the second part what you said in the first part doesn't help your case either.
How does it not help his case though? Elaborate on that because the only reason why it won't help is that Bold typeface means OP wants to highlight something, I do agree on the 2nd part though but given that you don't give any reason why OP is in the wrong with his way of posting, I think you're also in the wrong here, I haven't read anywhere in the forum that it's a bad case for you if you set your post all in bold.
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I'd love to see what BC.GAME have to say about this, I mean it was clear on the screenshot that the withdrawable funds are $3428.13 and from the video the OP showed it is shown when the amount of money suddenly turned from $3300+ to $129. I'm not sure if it is this is just a visual glitch or not(I've seen a similar case before), I hope it is just a visual glitch because it'll be frustrating if it is not. would you mind updating us when their support finally responds to you as to what happened to your winnings suddenly disappearing?

Will update for sure, Acroman !
Thanks.
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I'd love to see what BC.GAME have to say about this, I mean it was clear on the screenshot that the withdrawable funds are $3428.13 and from the video the OP showed it is shown when the amount of money suddenly turned from $3300+ to $129. I'm not sure if it is this is just a visual glitch or not(I've seen a similar case before), I hope it is just a visual glitch because it'll be frustrating if it is not. would you mind updating us when their support finally responds to you as to what happened to your winnings suddenly disappearing?
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Appreciate the time you wasted with grammatical scholarship pointing outs (could have been better spent)
and besides this remark on above, i have run out of things to say to you regarding your comment, as it was indeed totally useless lol.

But thank you for your participation, anyways.
What matters is the case is justifiable, and THE CASINO is the one who have to respond, not '' random '' people (like you)

Thank you again.

You mean that apart from your failed attempts to scam on the forum and your abuse of the trust sytem, you are now also the owner of the forum and decide who can and cannot reply to your thread? I would expect nothing less from you.
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As wonderful as your trust profile looks don't expect people to go running to red tag BC.GAME or support a flag about it. However, that doesn't mean you haven't been scammed or there hasn't been a mistake on their part. On my side I will wait to see what their representative says about the issue, as they have one although not very active lately, and the run a signature campaign.

By the way, as angry as you are, that way of writing by mixing capital letters and bold type doesn't help your case. And repeating in the second part what you said in the first part doesn't help your case either.

Appreciate the time you wasted with grammatical scholarship pointing outs (could have been better spent)
and besides this remark on above, i have run out of things to say to you regarding your comment, as it was indeed totally useless lol.

But thank you for your participation, anyways.
What matters is the case is justifiable, and THE CASINO is the one who have to respond, not '' random '' people (like you)

Thank you again.
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As wonderful as your trust profile looks don't expect people to go running to red tag BC.GAME or support a flag about it. However, that doesn't mean you haven't been scammed or there hasn't been a mistake on their part. On my side I will wait to see what their representative says about the issue, as they have one although not very active lately, and the run a signature campaign.

By the way, as angry as you are, that way of writing by mixing capital letters and bold type doesn't help your case. And repeating in the second part what you said in the first part doesn't help your case either.
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What happened::I had a bonus of $129 usd deposited with 40x wager requirement ($5189 more or less) i have turned the $129 into $4000+ USD
and MET the ENTIRE wagering requirement of $5189 which is INSANELY wrong it's definitely NOT 40x
as every bet counts only towards 20% of it's real value (ex: you place a $10 bet but in fact you counting only $2 towards the wagering rollover)
so this 40x/$5189 becomes almost $50.000,00 roll over, then !
Given this conditions.

So i MET THEM ALL and won $3409 (have it ALL RECORDED IN VIDEO) at time when the MONEY GOT REMOVED from my balance all together and left me with $99 USD !
Here's the image of the LAST BET made before the balance got disappeared/removed

Link to the image: https://ibb.co/vZ2s5SF

I want my WINNINGS !
I have HUSTLED them, and it was DEFINITELY SUPER HARD to achieve almost $50k worth of wagering at only 2% face value, with only a $129 initial bonus/deposit,  so you can't simply take them away.

This does = NOT EXIST
at all

Who in their SANE mind would sit down for 48 hours and keep '' playing '' games, to account to a 200x/$50,000.00 wager requirement and '' in the end '' pocket back only $100 bucks ?

This is NON-SENSE, so they have TO PAY MY $3400+ !!!!
I talked to CHLOE yesterday she said she escalated the ticket to the BACK END team to investigation/resolution.

Can you kindly check on that and resolve these

Specially because as can be seen on this photo here

https://ibb.co/p3MH39y

it claims the money WAS " WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS " so if it stated it was WITHDRAWABLE funds, then it HAS TO BE PAID.
So i await for a resolution for this, thank you.


Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bcgame-2503677

Reference Link: https://help.bc.game/en/articles/8412942-a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-deposit-bonus-at-bc-game
Amount Scammed: $3428.13
Payment Method: $129 USDT
Proof of Payment: https://ibb.co/7y7sf26
PM/Chat Logs:
https://ibb.co/Dr2KfRy
https://ibb.co/XpMY3VK 

Additional Notes: Here is the VIDEO PROOF of the issue happening LIVE https://streamable.com/5dlsna
(at the end of the video is the EXACT moment when they TOOK AWAY my balance after the wagering requirement has been accomplished/completed !)
On their terms there's NOTHING statingt that we CANNOT keep the WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS from the rollover area as stated on the arguments above, as well as cannot withdraw our winnings AS PER THE LINK: https://help.bc.game/en/articles/8412942-a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-deposit-bonus-at-bc-game


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I had a bonus of $129 usd deposited with 40x wager requirement ($5189 more or less) i have turned the $129 into $4000+ USD
and MET the ENTIRE wagering requirement of $5189 which is INSANELY wrong it's definitely NOT 40x
as every bet counts only towards 20% of it's real value (ex: you place a $10 bet but in fact you counting only $2 towards the wagering rollover)
so this 40x/$5189 becomes almost $50.000,00 roll over, then !
Given this conditions.

So i MET THEM ALL and won $3409 (have it ALL RECORDED IN VIDEO) at time when the MONEY GOT REMOVED from my balance all together and left me with $99 USD !
Here's the image of the LAST BET made before the balance got disappeared/removed

Link to the image: https://ibb.co/vZ2s5SF

I want my WINNINGS !
I have HUSTLED them, and it was DEFINITELY SUPER HARD to achieve almost $50k worth of wagering at only 2% face value, with only a $129 initial bonus/deposit,  so you can't simply take them away.

This does = NOT EXIST
at all

Who in their SANE mind would sit down for 48 hours and keep '' playing '' games, to account to a 200x/$50,000.00 wager requirement and '' in the end '' pocket back only $100 bucks ?

This is NON-SENSE, so they have TO PAY MY $3400+ !!!!
I talked to CHLOE yesterday she said she escalated the ticket to the BACK END team to investigation/resolution.

Can you kindly check on that and resolve these

Specially because as can be seen on this photo here

https://ibb.co/p3MH39y

it claims the money WAS " WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS " so if it stated it was WITHDRAWABLE funds, then it HAS TO BE PAID.
As there's ABSOLUTELY '' NOTHING / NO CLAUSE on their SHADY bonus terms stating that OUR WINNINGS CANNOT BE KEPT + WITHDRAWN !
Specially if it's SHOWING on the rollover page as CLAIMABLE / WITHDRAWABLE FUNDS, as i have stated and shown on image above.


HERE'S THE VIDEO PROOF OF THE EXACT MOMENT WHEN THEY SCAMMED ME / STEALING ME OUT OF MY WINNINGS --> https://streamable.com/5dlsna
So i await for a resolution for this, thank you.
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