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Quote from: seoincorporation on June 02, 2023, 09:38:36 AM

From 35% to 9.8%, that's cruel... but they can modify their terms of service, I think there is nothing to do about that, you know their casino their rules.

But if isn't a good business to have the affiliates there, then there is always the option to move to a new casino. I have been working with the affiliates program in betnomi, and they offer that 35% of the users wager under the Revenue Share program. You should consider it as an option.

It is certainly not good for affiliates but the casino is probably cutting costs with this. I think the main issue for an affiliate in such a situation would be to migrate with their referrals to another platform because they and their referrals must have already wagered a lot of money and might have also gotten VIP status and if not, they must be close to that and no one would like to migrate to a new platform after reaching so close to that.

The VIP perks and bonuses they might get from the platform will all be gone and they will need to start all fresh from the beginning, and I doubt if everyone would be willing to do that, so the affiliate might lose a lot of referrals due to this even if he decides to migrate.

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Quote from: Beparanf on May 15, 2023, 06:53:08 AM

Sadly, Casino think that Affiliates just milking money to them without doing anything that’s why it’s easy for them to cut loose since they already get what they want. Affiliate can’t pull out their invites so it’s take it or leave it already for them after the initial high affiliate commission.

Not only Affiliate commissions is what casinos now cutting expenses but also their bonuses for loyalty reward. Most of the perks is now decrease after getting their target customer volume from initial introduction benefits. This is why many gamblers is exploring new casino even if it’s dangerous.

This problem is so common when things are done that a community does not like, if there are bad decisions that harm a community, that community will quickly turn its back on the project or the casino, and this is very common in the projects, but in the casinos when they are with the affiliates and they mess with them, I think it is one of the worst decisions they can make, in this case it is as similar as messing with a community, at any moment they will take away all the support and they will not allow themselves to be or do the things that they are destined to commit, so support like this should not be allowed, it should not be treated like this, of course it is my Opinion , but I have gone through similar things with some Sites.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

You are operating on their terms and conditions. I am sure that you read through it? It's their casino, they can change whatever into whatever they like. You do not have a referral contract with them? Thats your own fault. Although if you are making a lot of money as one of their best referrers, then I am sure they would be happy to negotiate special terms. You should just reach out and ask them yourself, instead of whining about it in the gambling forum.

Seriously, what kind of a business man/woman are you? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

Why not on cutting those referral bonus to at least 5% on which you would really be having at least 4.5% left or having no negative? Its quite understandable about your frustration considering that dropping from 35%

to 9.8 is a huge down which it would be normal that if you do make out that kind of dealings out of your referral then it would really be surely affect you. Cost cutting? Possibly because this would be the nearest reason on why they do make out such adjustments. Legal grounds or something? Better not to mind yourself about this because on this changes then there's nothing you can do if they would decide on cutting it out
Therefore, the best thing you do is to let those referrals know on whats the current condition so that if you do decide on making a cut too then you should really tell them about the true reason behind.
You cant just make yourself paying up and patching up those lacking amounts just because you've been having the deal.Yes, its understandable but its not ideal on doing it anymore now that
it had been cut up.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 12, 2023, 11:46:45 PM

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

Wow you have a great fan base and any casino losing you will definitely feel the impact atleast for the moment and since you're already an established member, why didn't they come up with something and let you work on something.
I've read some similar stories where it seems most casinos seems to be jealous of the rewards and winnings of their players and customers especially when it seems the casino is greatly on the losing side.
Well you have to be careful when choosing the next one and I alsonfeel for you because you will have to work extra hard again because not all your fans would want to follow you to the next casino for maybe some personal issues or maybe they ready favouriting the previous casino already.

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From 35% to 9.8%, that's cruel... but they can modify their terms of service, I think there is nothing to do about that, you know their casino their rules.

But if isn't a good business to have the affiliates there, then there is always the option to move to a new casino. I have been working with the affiliates program in betnomi, and they offer that 35% of the users wager under the Revenue Share program. You should consider it as an option.

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Quote from: wiss19 on May 26, 2023, 03:50:50 AM

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As far as I can see in that regard, there is nothing you can do if bc games change their established rules because they are the ones who administer or control games and we are just players who decide whether we follow it or not.

But it cannot be denied the size of the percentage of their referral bonus. But if you think you have a fight or claim against what you are fighting in games, it is your right as long as you are in the right and you have strong evidence against them.

Well, whether it is a change in their games, in their terms and conditions, in their bonuses, or their referral commission percentage, a player or an affiliate can simply do nothing at all, they have all the rights to make any changes they want and casinos also mention this in their terms and conditions that they can always make changes in anything within the platform.

An affiliate who used the casino and earned commissions from their referrals will probably have to migrate to another platform in such a case since they will probably not change their policies only for one affiliate and they probably made the changes for a reason.

- Definitely, everything you said is true mate. Everyone has the right to complain but everyone can't do anything if the gambling admin suddenly changes that when it comes to Tos, this is true, we can only complain.

So if this happens, let's just accept it and now it's up to us if we continue to play gambling using their platform, after all we're not forced to stay with them, right?

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Quote from: davis196 on May 25, 2023, 01:25:36 AM

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I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

AFAIK, every website with an affiliate program has Terms of Service, where it is clearly stated that the website owners can change the rules of the affiliate program(including commission rates) anytime they want. Joining the Affiliate program means that you accept those Terms of Service. Good luck going to court with any claims. Grin

I don't know about any affiliate program in the world, that would agree to discuss any changes of the commission rates with their affiliates. If you don't like the new commission rates, just stop promoting BCGame and try to find a casino with a more lucrative affiliate program.

Its not a legal question in my opinion, rather a loyality question. They changed it without letting us know by still showing us the old commission rate on their website (35%) - Eventhough its only 9.8% right now.

I earn now more on Nanogames then on BCGame (Nanogames is a clone of BCGame) - Where I only have a third of my referrals invited yet. That's kinda funny.

Its a serious sign of money problems. They obviously had to change stuff to adjust to their money issues. A pre-stage of death (just my opinion)

I wrote coco (BCGame creator) and let him know my opinion. The message is still unread since a week though.

BCGame will die soon or later, its showing clear signs of a breakdown. I will certainly not advertise BCGame anymore.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on May 23, 2023, 07:27:13 PM

As far as I can see in that regard, there is nothing you can do if bc games change their established rules because they are the ones who administer or control games and we are just players who decide whether we follow it or not.

But it cannot be denied the size of the percentage of their referral bonus. But if you think you have a fight or claim against what you are fighting in games, it is your right as long as you are in the right and you have strong evidence against them.

Well, whether it is a change in their games, in their terms and conditions, in their bonuses, or their referral commission percentage, a player or an affiliate can simply do nothing at all, they have all the rights to make any changes they want and casinos also mention this in their terms and conditions that they can always make changes in anything within the platform.

An affiliate who used the casino and earned commissions from their referrals will probably have to migrate to another platform in such a case since they will probably not change their policies only for one affiliate and they probably made the changes for a reason.

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Quote from: davis196 on May 25, 2023, 01:25:36 AM

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I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

AFAIK, every website with an affiliate program has Terms of Service, where it is clearly stated that the website owners can change the rules of the affiliate program(including commission rates) anytime they want. Joining the Affiliate program means that you accept those Terms of Service. Good luck going to court with any claims. Grin

I don't know about any affiliate program in the world, that would agree to discuss any changes of the commission rates with their affiliates. If you don't like the new commission rates, just stop promoting BCGame and try to find a casino with a more lucrative affiliate program.

They have the right but the site should inform everyone if there’s a changes with the terms.
Pursuing this to the court might not be worth it, instead of stressing yourself on that site, better to look for other option where you can still make profit on their affiliate program. This is how casinos work, they always change their ToS just to meat their goals and target profit, if its not ok already then move on to another.

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Agree with you that the affiliate program is very good for helping to bring in visitor traffic. I don't know why many casinos cut bonuses in that program even though they could have cut other programs, for example deposit bonus programs or other bonuses so they don't cut affiliate bonuses because that will create traffic too decreased, unless indeed they get casino traffic from other campaigns but I also think this affiliate program is very helpful.

The deposit bonus may not be removed from BC.game, because this promo is the most used and new members will trying the service with this bonus. When this promo is stopped, i don't think people who become affiliates will be able to get new members, even they get, maybe not for long time to use. Therefore, bc.game sacrifices their affiliates program, this is also not a good move, an affiliate is an unofficial marketing team for most businesses. And affiliates may be more effective in bringing gamblers to join than traditional advertising.

You are probably right that affiliates usually promote a service pretty well, and even if they do it for their own benefit since they earn money when someone joins under their link and uses the platform, the platform still benefits more from it since they get more money from those users invited by affiliates than how much commission they pay the affiliates.

A platform closing down or making changes in an affiliate program will surely affect its growth if they have affiliate workers who are bringing a lot of customers every now and then, they surely need to revise its program so that its affiliates don't switch platforms.

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I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

AFAIK, every website with an affiliate program has Terms of Service, where it is clearly stated that the website owners can change the rules of the affiliate program(including commission rates) anytime they want. Joining the Affiliate program means that you accept those Terms of Service. Good luck going to court with any claims. Grin

I don't know about any affiliate program in the world, that would agree to discuss any changes of the commission rates with their affiliates. If you don't like the new commission rates, just stop promoting BCGame and try to find a casino with a more lucrative affiliate program.

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals, but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

Well, from what I think, it is not imminent for the casino to give their promoters any prior notice before making such a decision, most especially, the promoters who are not officially affiliated or hired by the casino as affiliate marketers, where it would have been very wrong is if the casino had hired op as an officially recognized affiliate marketer of the casino, and such a decision is taken and even implemented with his knowledge, then he(op) could have had all the right to sue the casino to court for breach of contract, this is if the contract does not have a line saying "we have every right to make changes to the affiliate reward system without prior notice bla bla bla" though.

I get your point that the casino, on paper, can switch up the reward system for its promoters. But, let's look at the larger impact here. We're living in a world where the grapevine and online reputation are pretty important, and a move like this could seriously smear the casino's image. It's particularly risky if the reward slash is big and without any warning. You're gonna have annoyed promoters which could turn into bad mouthing, which eventually hits the casino's public image and, by extension, their revenue. Even if the promoters aren't officially tied, they can still sway the casino's rep, especially in online circles. So, while the casino is in the clear legally to tweak the reward system, they might wanna ponder on the larger fallout and go for a more open and considerate method

There is a very common rule of publication in the media. The media always publish negative news for free and with great pleasure. But positive news, for example, in the crypto media about some kind of casino, is now always published only for payment for this publication. It's always advertising. And it is always fake and the achievements of the casino or their bonus programs, which are covered by the media, are always embellished. Yes, this is exactly the information field we now live in. And this information field greatly distorts reality.

I am writing all this because I have no doubt that the media will quickly and free of charge distribute such negative news for players from that casino.
There can be no doubt about this.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 23, 2023, 05:57:24 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on May 23, 2023, 03:14:42 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 23, 2023, 02:01:50 PM

Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals, but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

Well, from what I think, it is not imminent for the casino to give their promoters any prior notice before making such a decision, most especially, the promoters who are not officially affiliated or hired by the casino as affiliate marketers, where it would have been very wrong is if the casino had hired op as an officially recognized affiliate marketer of the casino, and such a decision is taken and even implemented with his knowledge, then he(op) could have had all the right to sue the casino to court for breach of contract, this is if the contract does not have a line saying "we have every right to make changes to the affiliate reward system without prior notice bla bla bla" though.

I get your point that the casino, on paper, can switch up the reward system for its promoters. But, let's look at the larger impact here. We're living in a world where the grapevine and online reputation are pretty important, and a move like this could seriously smear the casino's image. It's particularly risky if the reward slash is big and without any warning. You're gonna have annoyed promoters which could turn into bad mouthing, which eventually hits the casino's public image and, by extension, their revenue. Even if the promoters aren't officially tied, they can still sway the casino's rep, especially in online circles. So, while the casino is in the clear legally to tweak the reward system, they might wanna ponder on the larger fallout and go for a more open and considerate method

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It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8% The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Also BCGame have been costcutting so much lately, the removal of rakeback, slashing affiliate %s and so on. I would advice people to stay away from the site as it seems like this is the start to something worse happening.

When the rules change for the worse for partners or players, this is a really bad signal.

In my opinion, those changes in the general history of this casino, when almost all bonus programs interesting for players change so significantly and quite unexpectedly and rather quickly, this is a clear sign that something serious is happening in general with the business of this casino. I think these innovations will really puzzle, or rather even scare a large number of players who used this casino. I do not really understand such devs decisions, when for one change the same referral program is immediately reduced by more than 3 times.

Of course, this is a serious signal for players and it is expected that their number in this casino may decrease. However, we don’t know for sure, maybe the devs have calculated everything and they are satisfied with such a reduction in players.
And we are unlikely to find out anytime soon.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:42:06 PM

Quote from: Yogee on May 10, 2023, 10:31:47 PM

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8% The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Also BCGame have been costcutting so much lately, the removal of rakeback, slashing affiliate %s and so on. I would advice people to stay away from the site as it seems like this is the start to something worse happening.

When the rules change for the worse for partners or players, this is a really bad signal.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

As far as I can see in that regard, there is nothing you can do if bc games change their established rules because they are the ones who administer or control games and we are just players who decide whether we follow it or not.

But it cannot be denied the size of the percentage of their referral bonus. But if you think you have a fight or claim against what you are fighting in games, it is your right as long as you are in the right and you have strong evidence against them.

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Quote from: Wiwo on May 23, 2023, 03:14:42 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 23, 2023, 02:01:50 PM

Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals, but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

Well, from what I think, it is not imminent for the casino to give their promoters any prior notice before making such a decision, most especially, the promoters who are not officially affiliated or hired by the casino as affiliate marketers, where it would have been very wrong is if the casino had hired op as an officially recognized affiliate marketer of the casino, and such a decision is taken and even implemented with his knowledge, then he(op) could have had all the right to sue the casino to court for breach of contract, this is if the contract does not have a line saying "we have every right to make changes to the affiliate reward system without prior notice bla bla bla" though.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 23, 2023, 02:01:50 PM

Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

~snip~

Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing a lot of users for them.

That's just how things go, if they have already many players, then what's the use of paying on the same rate for referrals. They need to atleast lessen the rate to sustain their platform and avoid overpaying the referrals. It could also be abused which would be a loss to the platform as well. But this would reflect to all players not only for the most number of referrals.

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Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.
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That's pretty impressive! Congrats on that! I'm curious, how did you manage to attract such a large number of referrals? Do you have any strategies or tips that have worked well for you?

Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

I will let you know how it worked out.

Looking forward to hearing your insights!

I have a friend who is having quite of a number for referrals. His strategy is to give atleast 10% of what he would get from referral bonus to that player he would be able to refer. It is nothing much but atleast they'd have something from it. Might as well not as effictive as with other strategies but you may consider it.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 23, 2023, 02:01:50 PM

Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals, but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

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Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.
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That's pretty impressive! Congrats on that! I'm curious, how did you manage to attract such a large number of referrals? Do you have any strategies or tips that have worked well for you?

Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

I will let you know how it worked out.

Looking forward to hearing your insights!

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Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing a lot of users for them.

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Quote from: Stakefast on May 23, 2023, 08:55:55 AM

I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.

Lately I saw a deep decline in my commissions, usually I get a few hundret bucks per week, now its more like 10-25$.

I will contact coco and let him know that I also won't accept this dramatic change since I managed to get a custom percentage of 35%.

I will let you know how it worked out.

Affiliate and referral programs are two different things... I am just pointing this out...

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 12, 2023, 11:46:45 PM

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

Can you really do that is it really possible to do that it seems you have contacts on all your referrals if you can convince them to transfer to another casino of your choosing but what if some of your referrals already have an account on the casino that you've picked to transfer?
Some players have their own lucky casino to play with so some might stay, it's still a good option to lower your referral cashback I'm sure they will understand it, and you will still earn from their wager, I recommend that you take a look at Betcoin.ag and check their referral rewards.

The op can try it but don't think everyone will listen to his advice. because one person likes one site op has once registered some gamblers on BC.GAME for his commission and they are gambling there. now there's no guarantee they'll do it again if you invite them to another site. because this site has already become very popular and has gained a lot of popularity so those who gamble here will not leave this site very soon.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 15, 2023, 04:49:00 AM

Agree with you that the affiliate program is very good for helping to bring in visitor traffic. I don't know why many casinos cut bonuses in that program even though they could have cut other programs, for example deposit bonus programs or other bonuses so they don't cut affiliate bonuses because that will create traffic too decreased, unless indeed they get casino traffic from other campaigns but I also think this affiliate program is very helpful.

The deposit bonus may not be removed from BC.game, because this promo is the most used and new members will trying the service with this bonus. When this promo is stopped, i don't think people who become affiliates will be able to get new members, even they get, maybe not for long time to use. Therefore, bc.game sacrifices their affiliates program, this is also not a good move, an affiliate is an unofficial marketing team for most businesses. And affiliates may be more effective in bringing gamblers to join than traditional advertising.

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Quote from: bittraffic on May 10, 2023, 11:19:21 PM

Contact OP here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bcgame-casino-and-sportsbook-200-bonus-promo-code-bclcfc-5088875
That is the official thread they have in bitcointalk but in that thread, you can find their channels where you might wanna try as well to connect with them. Here is the telegram https://t.me/joinchat/L5YyYla7--Arsls3DgAgdw

If it doesn't work still. You may have to tell your referrals about that 10% already and then move on to another casino affiliate. You've made thousands though, seem worth the time you did. Let me ask, is you giving 10% legal according to their policy?

Agreed. While losing a significant portion of your earnings is definitely a pesky loss, especially in today's day and age, I think this kind of discussion is best made with an official from BCgame themselves. Ranting and facilitating an echo chamber is just fine but it's not gonna get you anywhere OP. So, use bittraffic's link here and perhaps talk about this in private. It's that simple.

I think the cut down to 10% @bittraffic, this is something that is always done by a lot of casinos, it's a normal thing and is probably included in the clauses of the contract OP signed when he got into this affiliate program. The problem is with the deliverance of this change. OP claims to not have seen nor heard any update that tells them there was a cut down, so he's left blindsided and all his downlines not aware of the drop. He's gonna have to break this news to them in the worst way possible if ever, but I doubt it. OP claimed to have earned 40-ish grand from this venture, that's a good enough indicator that these people were probably paid well too.

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I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.

Lately I saw a deep decline in my commissions, usually I get a few hundret bucks per week, now its more like 10-25$.

I will contact coco and let him know that I also won't accept this dramatic change since I managed to get a custom percentage of 35%.

I will let you know how it worked out.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 14, 2023, 04:56:47 PM

I get that sites need to make changes here and there, but they should never mess with affiliates IMO. They want users to join their affiliate programs and bring them players, but then once they build a base they take away the revenue promised.

I'd say affiliates are a decent reason sites get traffic, why potentially take customers away from your site? Look for other ways to cut costs.

Sadly, Casino think that Affiliates just milking money to them without doing anything that’s why it’s easy for them to cut loose since they already get what they want. Affiliate can’t pull out their invites so it’s take it or leave it already for them after the initial high affiliate commission.

Not only Affiliate commissions is what casinos now cutting expenses but also their bonuses for loyalty reward. Most of the perks is now decrease after getting their target customer volume from initial introduction benefits. This is why many gamblers is exploring new casino even if it’s dangerous.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 12, 2023, 11:46:45 PM

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

Can you really do that is it really possible to do that it seems you have contacts on all your referrals if you can convince them to transfer to another casino of your choosing but what if some of your referrals already have an account on the casino that you've picked to transfer?
Some players have their own lucky casino to play with so some might stay, it's still a good option to lower your referral cashback I'm sure they will understand it, and you will still earn from their wager, I recommend that you take a look at Betcoin.ag and check their referral rewards.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 14, 2023, 04:56:47 PM

I get that sites need to make changes here and there, but they should never mess with affiliates IMO. They want users to join their affiliate programs and bring them players, but then once they build a base they take away the revenue promised.

I'd say affiliates are a decent reason sites get traffic, why potentially take customers away from your site? Look for other ways to cut costs.

Agree with you that the affiliate program is very good for helping to bring in visitor traffic. I don't know why many casinos cut bonuses in that program even though they could have cut other programs, for example deposit bonus programs or other bonuses so they don't cut affiliate bonuses because that will create traffic too decreased, unless indeed they get casino traffic from other campaigns but I also think this affiliate program is very helpful.

After all, why do you have to maintain a welcome deposit bonus or other deposits that won't be useful if there is no visitor traffic while this affiliate program can be used for people who want to promote the casino so that lots of active gamblers play, in fact I have also seen bcgames actively holding campaigns everywhere including social media as well as ethereum and other crypto explorer sites. let's just hope the casinos don't slash the bonuses of this program because it's definitely hurting them a lot actually

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Quote from: CryptSafe on May 14, 2023, 06:56:53 PM

I see bcgame to be a good and reputable casino and for a long time there have not been any much complaints against them and their activities here is transparent and reliable but you know, things changes likewise same way things happens. This is not a good situation to have happened. If there is anything wrong with the casino no one knows as these are just mere signs one should take not of before the unfortunate happens and one ends up making huge loss as a result of membership of that casino. Cutting down cost is as a result of inadequacy and poor management. Probably, this casino must be undergoing done sorts of shake up whichever ways and decided to take such drastic measures without putting into consideration those that are affiliated with huge followership to their casino.
Every one should take caution and be on the alert. This is how such scenario begin without any notice then it results to something uncontrollable which should have been averted early enough but before it could be realized, the unfortunate or the worst has already happened.

simply because of the extended continually challenging phases they are subjected to, good casinos are always fleeting. No matter how legitimate a casino is, it's always prudent and safer to be prepared for the worse; nothing lasts forever in this present day. Things go wrong when they encounter major challenges, and online traffic becomes even more difficult to manage. BCGame is one of the few good casinos out there, however it hasn't been pleasant to watch it expand so quickly over the years. Their activities in the space are legal, and they benefit their clients by supplying fundamental interests and attractive gambling possibilities.

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Quote from: smyslov on May 14, 2023, 06:32:09 PM

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It's hard when you compiled a lot of referrals and you are sharing your rewards with your affiliate to motivate them to continue playing, if you are going to pick another casino you'll have to build your affiliate again and promote again but that's how things go on affiliate marketing, you have no control if they want to change the terms, even top casinos are changing their terms your only choice is to also change your terms on your reward program.

It's tough to keep that 10% running but if OP still maintains that reward for all his invites then I don't think he'll have a difficult time in another casino. I believe he already has a good relationship with them and I'm pretty sure they have some group chat or other ways to communicate. The question is whether he can find a legitimate one that offers more than what he pays and allows him to earn good as well.

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I see bcgame to be a good and reputable casino and for a long time there have not been any much complaints against them and their activities here is transparent and reliable but you know, things changes likewise same way things happens. This is not a good situation to have happened. If there is anything wrong with the casino no one knows as these are just mere signs one should take not of before the unfortunate happens and one ends up making huge loss as a result of membership of that casino. Cutting down cost is as a result of inadequacy and poor management. Probably, this casino must be undergoing done sorts of shake up whichever ways and decided to take such drastic measures without putting into consideration those that are affiliated with huge followership to their casino.
Every one should take caution and be on the alert. This is how such scenario begin without any notice then it results to something uncontrollable which should have been averted early enough but before it could be realized, the unfortunate or the worst has already happened.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:42:06 PM

Quote from: Yogee on May 10, 2023, 10:31:47 PM

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8% The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Affiliate percentages are reduced not only for you but for everyone.I also see in my account that there is a rate of 9.8%. So you have to accept it too. nothing to do here. So you have to deal with this if you want to earn from affiliate and choose BC.GAME site as your affiliate company. and if you think this percentage is low then you can try other sites too.

It's hard when you compiled a lot of referrals and you are sharing your rewards with your affiliate to motivate them to continue playing, if you are going to pick another casino you'll have to build your affiliate again and promote again but that's how things go on affiliate marketing, you have no control if they want to change the terms, even top casinos are changing their terms your only choice is to also change your terms on your reward program.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 12, 2023, 11:46:45 PM

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

It is up to you and I think it will be a huge loss to the casino if 43 people stop playing on their site at the same time though I think it will not cause them to go bankrupt.

Quote from: dimonstration on May 12, 2023, 11:54:56 PM

Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

Stop your service immediately because you are losing money here while casino doesn’t have any responsibilities on your losses since you are the one who offer it on your referrals.

It isn't pocket money loss but a paper loss since @OP is still calculating on the previous affiliate percentage commission which is revised recently by the site.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 14, 2023, 04:56:47 PM

I get that sites need to make changes here and there, but they should never mess with affiliates IMO. They want users to join their affiliate programs and bring them players, but then once they build a base they take away the revenue promised.

There might be a reason for the cut-off, though we can only speculate but I believe it has something to do with cost-cutting. It is a normal occurrence in all business establishments that once their target is reached they either remove the marketing that aids them to that success or trim down the reward just to keep rewarding their contributors.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 14, 2023, 04:56:47 PM

I'd say affiliates are a decent reason sites get traffic, why potentially take customers away from your site? Look for other ways to cut costs.

+1

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I get that sites need to make changes here and there, but they should never mess with affiliates IMO. They want users to join their affiliate programs and bring them players, but then once they build a base they take away the revenue promised.

I'd say affiliates are a decent reason sites get traffic, why potentially take customers away from your site? Look for other ways to cut costs.

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Quote from: dimonstration on May 13, 2023, 11:34:24 AM

Actually he is already on negative profit here since he is giving back 10% referral commission to all of his referral while he now have 9% referral commission rate on the casino.

His option is stop his referral service so that he can still earn 9% commissions from those player that doesn’t bother the 10% rakeback for his service since most of his referral probably a high roller now due to their wager volume. Abandoning the account now will just waste all their wager and VIP rewards. I think there’s still some profit from OP if he will just discontinue his service.

After some talks and searching around the internet, I think this is just some kind of FUD. After all, just words without some evidence are not worth much. And it's what we have here...

Anything is possible in the crypto world, especially in the crypto gambling space... I guess we all are aware of that. But this time I am not convinced that OP is right, what I can say is that StudsonBudson didn't change my mind about BC.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 13, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 12, 2023, 11:46:45 PM

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

I think you have the answer now and you have made your best decision, my advice is if you can still earn you can continue it and if you feel the site is not making any money just leave it, after all playing gambling will be better for yourself, but you are great enough to provide updates in this thread is good enough, usually people who often complain about their problems, they will just leave the thread so it is full of spam posts.

I think everything has been answered by the bcgames team and you can lock this thread and your problem is solved and solved. have a nice day with other gambling sites. Wink

Actually he is already on negative profit here since he is giving back 10% referral commission to all of his referral while he now have 9% referral commission rate on the casino.

His option is stop his referral service so that he can still earn 9% commissions from those player that doesn’t bother the 10% rakeback for his service since most of his referral probably a high roller now due to their wager volume. Abandoning the account now will just waste all their wager and VIP rewards. I think there’s still some profit from OP if he will just discontinue his service.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 12, 2023, 11:46:45 PM

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

I think you have the answer now and you have made your best decision, my advice is if you can still earn you can continue it and if you feel the site is not making any money just leave it, after all playing gambling will be better for yourself, but you are great enough to provide updates in this thread is good enough, usually people who often complain about their problems, they will just leave the thread so it is full of spam posts.

I think everything has been answered by the bcgames team and you can lock this thread and your problem is solved and solved. have a nice day with other gambling sites. Wink

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Quote from: bittraffic on May 11, 2023, 10:24:58 PM

Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 11, 2023, 10:00:42 PM

I have tried having a dialogue with the people associated with this but I haven't received as much as a reply back. They're not even willing to talk. What they have done could be legal but this is still a huge red flag for people to stay away, after all what kind of site slashes it's affiliate rates without any announcement and then refuse to speak with one of its biggest affiliate.

I don't know if there could be legal action for it since most of the policies they made are subject to change. There have been incidents like this to affiliate marketers who are not related to crypto or casino and it's the same thing that happened.

The most tedious part of this is you have to take down or edit the articles you have made to promote them. It's worse when you have a domain that is closely related to BCgame. Anyway, you have warned people already.

I highly doubt that they may face legal actions. The fact that is written right on their terms of service, the complainants would never win the case.

To the @OP, when was the last time you received your commissions?
You shouldn't receive 0 to pay your referrals. The amount you are receiving is less now, that would also be applied to the deals between you and your referrals. Give 10% of that 9.8% commission that you are getting from BCGame.

Above all, the sudden decrease too high! I will not be surprised if bcgame starts losing players.

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That's a pretty large percentage for a one-time cut-off and affiliates like you will obviously be affected by that, but, as the terms and conditions of every single service and platform say that they have the right to make changes whenever they want, they are not basically answerable to anyone for what they have done or are doing, though it would have made them look better if they had announced it and let their players know.

You should probably let your referrals know about the change and ask them to move with you on another platform with better affiliate commissions since you will only keep losing money this way since you get less than 10% and pay forward 10%.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

- Have you tried contacting their main ann thread here on the forum? Or in their official channel group on telegram, Twitter and others?

This issue is quite new to me to be honest. What happened to you in that matter seems like a fraud. What's surprising is why they did that without notifying you, so sometimes we can't do anything about that kind of thing. If you still don't reply to their ann thread, try to calm down the scam accusation.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 12, 2023, 11:46:45 PM

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

Sad to hear that, I have nothing else to suggest since you've made your decision.
Just a small thought, with as many referrals as you claim it seems to really affect their earnings (to be honest 35% is a pretty big bonus). Let's see if there is a significant difference without your role going forward. There is a good chance that they will contact you sometime, but don't get your hopes up by it.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

You literally promote self referral with your service which an indirect attempt to cheat the casino. Besides 35% is a bit high compared to the normal percentage allocated for affiliate program of many casino. The casino doesn’t have any responsibility to inform everyone for the changes since they have a small note that they can change the rules anytime.I believe this is same case with Betfury against one of the forum members here but the only difference was Betfury deducted the percentage even on bets that placed before the changes.

I doubt there’s a legal action on this matter. Check their ToS and read if there’s small note for the change of rules.

Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

Stop your service immediately because you are losing money here while casino doesn’t have any responsibilities on your losses since you are the one who offer it on your referrals.

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BCGame offers a really large number of games in different game categories. Even the most demanding users will be satisfied with BCGame Casino's game selection. But if we talk about the risk in this business, it is very high if you don't succeed then you will lose as much as you have invested in marketing or website. BCGame Casino has an affiliate payout structure, which allows affiliates to earn no more than 5% commission for each player brought to the site. Reducing the amount of everything, including bonuses. It could be big on BCGame if adding fiat currency support would be good for many casino users.

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Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

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If bcgames reduces it, you should also cut your expenses, I don't think it looks complicated, after all, before this you might have earned a lot of money from the bcgame affiliate program and because there is a reduction you complain about it, actually you have to get used to reducing your expenses too and pay a few percent of the profits you get even less than before.

I think it's not only bcgames that it seems that there are a number of casinos that are reducing bonuses and other program prizes, maybe it's because of the declining revenue figures from casinos that they are forced to reduce the bonuses in the programs they provide for all their users. try going to their thread on the forum maybe you will get an answer from their team Wink

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Quote from: bittraffic on May 11, 2023, 10:24:58 PM

I don't know if there could be legal action for it since most of the policies they made are subject to change.

It depends how the op prefers, I see bc.game also offers a special affiliate program to influential users with a lot of followers. If it's a legally valid form of written agreement and there are some bc.game statements that could support OP retaining the reward rate term in this kind of situation, I think the OP can take legal action if he so chooses.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:42:06 PM

Quote from: Yogee on May 10, 2023, 10:31:47 PM

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8% The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Affiliate percentages are reduced not only for you but for everyone.I also see in my account that there is a rate of 9.8%. So you have to accept it too. nothing to do here. So you have to deal with this if you want to earn from affiliate and choose BC.GAME site as your affiliate company. and if you think this percentage is low then you can try other sites too.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 11:17:44 PM

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It still says the old % for everyone but it's different.

When did you notice the drop in rate? If they still don't update that in their site after a day or two of the change then they are already misleading. Another red flag.

If they refuse to communicate then I guess your only choice is to leave and take your invites with you. What they did tells people that they are on a tight budget and kinda gives the feeling that there's a chance a gambler may not get paid immediately if he happens to win big.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 11, 2023, 10:00:42 PM

I have tried having a dialogue with the people associated with this but I haven't received as much as a reply back. They're not even willing to talk. What they have done could be legal but this is still a huge red flag for people to stay away, after all what kind of site slashes it's affiliate rates without any announcement and then refuse to speak with one of its biggest affiliate.

I don't know if there could be legal action for it since most of the policies they made are subject to change. There have been incidents like this to affiliate marketers who are not related to crypto or casino and it's the same thing that happened.

The most tedious part of this is you have to take down or edit the articles you have made to promote them. It's worse when you have a domain that is closely related to BCgame. Anyway, you have warned people already.

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I have tried having a dialogue with the people associated with this but I haven't received as much as a reply back. They're not even willing to talk. What they have done could be legal but this is still a huge red flag for people to stay away, after all what kind of site slashes it's affiliate rates without any announcement and then refuse to speak with one of its biggest affiliate.

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Quote from: coin-investor on May 11, 2023, 04:43:15 PM

This is part of the risk of being an affiliate and if it depends on your referral wagering, they can change the rules anytime its an unwritten rule of affiliate marketing, so your only option is to change your referral bonus or take away the referral bonus you can go on paying your referrals with your own pocket, but its good that you let people know about this issue, so marketers and influencers will take out BCGame on their list and go for casinos with better referral bonuses.
There are a lot of casinos worth promoting that establish themselves as one of the best in offering affiliate rewards, affiliate marketers are very important it keeps the money flowing to the casinos by recruiting new players.

The risk associated with affiliate earning and other micro earning is becoming high lately and just like it happen in the ops situation something can also happen to other commission payments, and even though there are no written rules to guide the casino and the affiliate marketers, its remains unethical for for a platform to just reversed their payment rate and slashiimg it higher than 20%-30% is quite an unrealistic event and maybe the owner of the casino just decide to discontinue or reduce the take home, people.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

This is very wrong and I can only imagine how much loss you must have incurred by now and there is no way they will just suddenly cut off your commissions without any prior notice and I think you should also try checking your emails, spam box or even important folder in your inbox so check for any prior notice and if you've done all this and no one from their team has tried responding to you despite all your attempt to reach them, then it will be better if you have any proves of your attempt to reach but to no avail, then I think you should try reporting to any gambling authorities closer to you thats if gambling is legalized in your country, as they will nest advice you on what to do with the help of your lawyer.

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It's certain that their TOS has already such possibility (and it is also logical, certain conditions can NEVER last forever or not have a chance of being "changed").

You could potentially do the same, offering a "new offer" to your users.
Generally speaking, I would always seek a dialogue/negotiation with them, you could maybe get a new deal...

another important aspect, monitor the market maybe you'll find another affiliation...

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 11, 2023, 02:35:02 PM

Yeah, the huge difference in the percentage is what pisses ne off. Not to mention zero intimation or discussion before the change was done. I had to ask my vip host and find out recently.

The site have the right to change it, you can just see the terms if this works for everyone or they just cut your rate because you already made a lot of profit from that affiliate program. Contact the support, wait for their response so you can get the right answer. Giving out 10% to your affiliate is your choice after all, maybe you can inform them as well that you will lower the rate because the site made changes with yours.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

This is part of the risk of being an affiliate and if it depends on your referral wagering, they can change the rules anytime its an unwritten rule of affiliate marketing, so your only option is to change your referral bonus or take away the referral bonus you can go on paying your referrals with your own pocket, but its good that you let people know about this issue, so marketers and influencers will take out BCGame on their list and go for casinos with better referral bonuses.
There are a lot of casinos worth promoting that establish themselves as one of the best in offering affiliate rewards, affiliate marketers are very important it keeps the money flowing to the casinos by recruiting new players.

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The problem lies on your reward system, it is the right of the gambling platform to adjust their affiliate program reward. You can always cut your reward system into half or some percentage so that you can earn money too. Casinos needs to adjust in every situation, it is possible that they had some marketing projects that needs more funds and they decided to take the funds on the referral program stash.

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I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

If there is a term in their referral program that stated that they can adjust commission rate anytime then you can pursue any legal claim that you are losing money because you had agreed on the terms when you enter their affiliate program. They can even remove it and stop the program according to their liking.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

Well, honestly, there is no legal ground to hold BC.game accountable on such an issue, and BC.game doesn't have to discuss anything with you before their decision to slash the affiliate commissions, since they did not hire you directly as a their affiliate marketer, or their promoter, or even ambassador, you probably saw their pay rate for referrals, got interested and hopped in, and now theyve decided to change the affiliate commission, it's up to you to either adjust to the new rate and keep going or hop out and look for another casino with better pay rate again.

BC.game didn't know the decision or agreement you made with your referrals, it is your business and not theirs, and if going by the new rate, you are no longer in profit after paying your referrals, like I said above, it's up to you to adjust with the new rate, or quit and look for another casino with better pay rate for their affiliate program.

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Another forum member has created a topic three weeks ago to discuss about the bonus changes of Stake and BC.game. Probably these established casinos are reducing the bonuses to maximise their profit. But reducing the affiliate commission rate without any prior notice is a bad move from the casino team.

Quote from: iv4n on May 11, 2023, 01:50:52 PM

I play at BC, I am not an affiliate but I play for one, under Gosu! If they really did this (and I hope there is an explanation for this case), I will simply stop playing there.

'efialtis' won't take it easily if BC.Game has really decreased the affiliate commission rate from 35% to 9.8%. BC.Game is at the top of GOSU review, it will highly effect on their ratings if they have made such unpleasant changes. A forum member has made a long dissatisfactory post in BC.Game ANN thread yesterday (it was a copy paste from Trustpilot review).

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Yeah, the huge difference in the percentage is what pisses ne off. Not to mention zero intimation or discussion before the change was done. I had to ask my vip host and find out recently.

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Yap, a few people say correctly.

Their service, and sometime in term & conditions. There always have some word, they can make some change without noticing everyone. That's mean they can easily change something without needing to be informed first for all people.

It's always tricky and for @OP you should make a change as well for the referral program you're made with your user. No matter what the response from your user, they need to take it.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:42:06 PM

Quote from: Yogee on May 10, 2023, 10:31:47 PM

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8% The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Also BCGame have been costcutting so much lately, the removal of rakeback, slashing affiliate %s and so on. I would advice people to stay away from the site as it seems like this is the start to something worse happening.

The fact that the term and condition of the term of service states that the casino have the sole right to make any change makes it difficult to place blame on the casino since their already made the law that will protect them against the player in any of their programmes and services.

But the reward disparity between your old affiliate payment and the current one is too much and I suggest you reach the team to explain to them and ask why so much significant decrease in your percentage payment as an affiliate payment.

And on the other hand, you will have to communicate the change of payment rate to your downlines that tho pay 10% to unless you want to continue to service them out of your own pocket since the reward is no longer coming as before.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 11:17:44 PM

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It was cut for everyone else too, but zero intimation, information or discussion about it. It still says the old % for everyone but it's different. No post on their forum or notification on their website or telegram. I found out only because the numbers were askew and I asked my host about it. If I hadn't they would have gotten away with it.

Do you think that this is the first time that a crypto casino "changes numbers & terms" without any notifications or explanations? I can only say, welcome to the "crypto wild west"! And many got away with that.

I play at BC, I am not an affiliate but I play for one, under Gosu! If they really did this (and I hope there is an explanation for this case), I will simply stop playing there.

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Contact OP here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bcgame-casino-and-sportsbook-200-bonus-promo-code-bclcfc-5088875
That is the official thread they have in bitcointalk but in that thread, you can find their channels where you might wanna try as well to connect with them. Here is the telegram https://t.me/joinchat/L5YyYla7--Arsls3DgAgdw

If it doesn't work still. You may have to tell your referrals about that 10% already and then move on to another casino affiliate. You've made thousands though, seem worth the time you did. Let me ask, is you giving 10% legal according to their policy?

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Quote from: Yogee on May 10, 2023, 10:31:47 PM

My assumption was that they changed their program which would apply to all members. If what you're saying is that they cut rewards for certain players only then that's a different thing. Cost cutting is not the problem since every business does that but they should at least be more transparent if that was the case.

It was cut for everyone else too, but zero intimation, information or discussion about it. It still says the old % for everyone but it's different. No post on their forum or notification on their website or telegram. I found out only because the numbers were askew and I asked my host about it. If I hadn't they would have gotten away with it.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:42:06 PM

Quote from: Yogee on May 10, 2023, 10:31:47 PM

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8% The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Also BCGame have been costcutting so much lately, the removal of rakeback, slashing affiliate %s and so on. I would advice people to stay away from the site as it seems like this is the start to something worse happening.

My assumption was that they changed their program which would apply to all members. If what you're saying is that they cut rewards for certain players only then that's a different thing. Cost cutting is not the problem since every business does that but they should at least be more transparent if that was the case.

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Quote from: Yogee on May 10, 2023, 10:31:47 PM

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8% The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Also BCGame have been costcutting so much lately, the removal of rakeback, slashing affiliate %s and so on. I would advice people to stay away from the site as it seems like this is the start to something worse happening.

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Quote from: StudsonBudson on May 10, 2023, 10:20:52 PM

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I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

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It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I would definitely feel disappointed if this happened to me but casinos usually have a general rule that they have the right to change any of their terms and conditions when it's necessary. That probably applies to their affiliate program as well so they are not required to talk to you or any other affiliate.

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I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

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