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Topic: BCH dumped but why hasnt BTC moved (Read 1285 times)

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August 03, 2017, 11:04:04 PM
#34
Right now, BTC has crossed the 2800 dollars mark. This is now a good sign for BTC to go straight to the 3000 dollars threshold. BCH on the one hand is dipping almost 50%. Thess might be signs that will tell us something about the future of these two coins.
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August 03, 2017, 09:17:45 PM
#33
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

Does anyone know if exchanges like Poloniex will show a balance of BCH equivalent to BTC? It seems like they should but I am having trouble accessing my Poloniex account right now.

Didn't they do this with ETH and ETC or am I mistaken about that (I actually didn't have any ETH with them at the time).  If not then I guess we can't get any BCH for Bitcoin held on Poloniex.
Initially they didn't plan to give BCH credit for BTC. Based on latest Updates they will start crediting BCH = BTC amount at time of Fork. For more details refer : https://poloniex.com/press-releases/2017.08.03-Bitcoin-Cash-Update/
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August 03, 2017, 02:53:47 PM
#32
Bitcoin is gowing up fast now and BCH is going down. Did one or more exchanges enable BCH withdrawels?

I think none yet. Still no confirmations on the transaction I made. Btw it looks like only few miners are supporting BCC thats why it has a slow transaction.
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August 03, 2017, 01:23:29 PM
#31
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

Last week people were selling alts to buy BTC and withdraw to their wallets to get BCC. So I guess now are buying alts back, so that is why BTC price decrease.  Buy orders for alts on exchanges got much thicker yesterday as they were last week. 
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August 03, 2017, 04:42:34 AM
#30
Bitcoin is gowing up fast now and BCH is going down. Did one or more exchanges enable BCH withdrawels?
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August 03, 2017, 12:11:28 AM
#29
interesting. I got mine on Bitrex pretty quickly and then sold it yesterday. Missed the pump but I only decided on getting a tiny amount of BTC anyway so not concerned when I sold.

I like you, actually I not interested Bitcoin Cash, but why skip it when me can receive free for sell and take some profit with this free money? But I still think very lucky when I sold this coin pumped to highest price 0.4 BTC per coin in Bittrex Grin
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August 02, 2017, 11:09:02 PM
#28
interesting. I got mine on Bitrex pretty quickly and then sold it yesterday. Missed the pump but I only decided on getting a tiny amount of BTC anyway so not concerned when I sold.

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August 02, 2017, 10:24:16 PM
#27
Some other sites still have not paid out BCC/BCH like CEX.io

Right now we are seeing a "fake" market on Bittrex
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 09:52:24 PM
#26
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

BTC will drop when people start exchanging it for fiat. BCH-BTC trades only determine the price of BCH.
Trades within the alt world only determine relative prices. When a lot of people cash out BTC for fiat, then the price will move down and vice versa.
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August 02, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
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So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Well, I actually expected the opposite: I thought Big Blockers would sell massively their Bitcoin to buy more Bitcoin Cash and move the price down. I hoped to grab some BTC at <2500 or even 2000 $ - well, it didn't happen. My theory is that Big blockers/Bitcoin Cash fans are still not 100% confident in their currency because of the long block times, low hashrate and centralized mining that in theory could favour an attack.

But actually, I think both movements are compensating each other: The "Big blocker dumps" hold the Bitcoin price in the 2650-2750 area - a very good price considering the latest events and only 10% below the ATH -  while the Bitcoin buys by Bitcoin Cash sellers helped it to not fall below $2600. So both parties are actually contributing to the stability of the coin of the opposite side Wink
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August 02, 2017, 09:38:52 PM
#24
I think once the users are able to get their hands on their share of BCH, a selloff is in the making. This would trigger the price to plummet but if it has enough support or demand, then it might be able to have some value after the selling. Right now, everything is just speculation and I would simply observe from the sidelines what transpires next.
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August 02, 2017, 09:26:19 PM
#23
Many people buy btc because it's tempted by a bch promotion, most of them sell their altcoin for it, and once they get bch and end up selling then what they do is buy back altcoin, the perception of people that bitcoin will skyrocket it is not true because of this. Only responsive action to return to altcoin.

Not sure I agree with this. Alts were up whilst BTC was pumping and then they are down today after the dump, should see the reverse
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August 02, 2017, 09:24:41 PM
#22
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

Does anyone know if exchanges like Poloniex will show a balance of BCH equivalent to BTC? It seems like they should but I am having trouble accessing my Poloniex account right now.

Didn't they do this with ETH and ETC or am I mistaken about that (I actually didn't have any ETH with them at the time).  If not then I guess we can't get any BCH for Bitcoin held on Poloniex.
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August 02, 2017, 09:24:08 PM
#21
Well it's just an artificial pump.

The real deal is Bitcoin and we all know where it's headed.

Bitcoin Cash? Just another altcoin.

+1 the bitcoin cash is in order to separate the opinions that are against the protocol of core IIRC, those artificial pump are just illusions and not even useful for the stability of bitcoin cash.
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August 02, 2017, 09:21:23 PM
#20
Don't think BCC is dumped, price pretty strong sometimes, although I am wondering if it is real.

Mostly artificial just to entice the market and make them believe that there is substantial support price wide for BCC. Most of the miners I know here in our area sold theirs immediately after receiving them on the fear of BCC losing value rapidly without them having to profit off of it.
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August 02, 2017, 09:20:49 PM
#19
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?
Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

there's still around 1k block of signalling period, Dont u think after a few days it will reach 100% and the price of btc will pump again? I think so. Right now the market price is still stable around $2,7k while the price of BCH is growing. And after the signalling of bip141 reach 80% and above, the price of btc will pump and the BCh will face a huge drop. I just argue like this.

Many people buy btc because it's tempted by a bch promotion, most of them sell their altcoin for it, and once they get bch and end up selling then what they do is buy back altcoin, the perception of people that bitcoin will skyrocket it is not true because of this. Only responsive action to return to altcoin.
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August 02, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
#18
there's still around 1k block of signalling period, Dont u think after a few days it will reach 100% and the price of btc will pump again? I think so. Right now the market price is still stable around $2,7k while the price of BCH is growing. And after the signalling of bip141 reach 80% and above, the price of btc will pump and the BCh will face a huge drop. I just argue like this.

fair enough, makes sense and that's why this thread is good to talk about these things that people are not aware of as I have seen a lot of talk about BTC going down in price.
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August 02, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
#17
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?
Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

there's still around 1k block of signalling period, Dont u think after a few days it will reach 100% and the price of btc will pump again? I think so. Right now the market price is still stable around $2,7k while the price of BCH is growing. And after the signalling of bip141 reach 80% and above, the price of btc will pump and the BCh will face a huge drop. I just argue like this.
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August 02, 2017, 09:05:12 PM
#16
Not sure who said it was dead. I think it is doing better than most people expected. The problem with big pump and dumps like yesterday though its it takes longer to rebuild confidence. People get burned when they panic sell so they are hesitant to buy back into the coin that burns them.

Even those that didn't invest become hesitant as they are unsure if it will do it again and if it has reached its peak for the time being for that reason.
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August 02, 2017, 08:59:12 PM
#15
450 is a very far price from dead, im not sure how one can say its dying.
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August 02, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
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Actually the price of BCH is increased so hard today, the price is like up to 82% right now. On the other hand, the price of bitcoin is decreased a bit today. I'm curious though, will BCH price will be same like BTC price or even BCH price will more expensive than bitcoin price ? But i'm sure BCH will go down someday.

I watched BCH skyrocket up over $1000 yesterday, I believe it reached $1300 odd so I don't think $450 is an increase? although not sure what price it dumped to, it will be hard for it to push today as people will worry it is going to dump again.
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August 02, 2017, 08:55:09 PM
#13
All BCH tradings are IOU tradings, the BCH is blocked? 5 hours no block? Need to see if it survives.
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August 02, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
#12
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

Actually the price of BCH is increased so hard today, the price is like up to 82% right now. On the other hand, the price of bitcoin is decreased a bit today. I'm curious though, will BCH price will be same like BTC price or even BCH price will more expensive than bitcoin price ? But i'm sure BCH will go down someday.
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August 02, 2017, 08:39:32 PM
#11
That's was my point. It is slightly down on the last 24hours and hasn't made a turn for support since August 1st yet. Alts seem to be down in the last 24hours to
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August 02, 2017, 08:03:16 PM
#10
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo

Bitcoin's price is slowly gliding down by the minute.
Wonder if it would be a good idea to sell immediately before it goes on a free fall again.
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August 02, 2017, 08:01:37 PM
#9
Don't think BCC is dumped, price pretty strong sometimes, although I am wondering if it is real.
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August 02, 2017, 07:59:03 PM
#8
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo
Since most of exchanges do not support BCC,BCC holders were unable to sell it for some quick cash.So,pumpers continue to pump it.BCC is just an altcoin.BTC continues to be the king and BCC is in no way substitute to bitcoin.
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August 02, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
#7
Another thing to consider is people getting their bcc/bch, cashing it in for btc, then cashing that in for fiat as a simple cash bonus taking some profit incase btc does infact dip.

I've been watching swings since 2013 so seeing a few hundred bucks doesn't scare me - seeing a few hundred bucks during such an expected volatile time where we're all expecting moon or bust, reassures me unexpectedly. So in THIS particular time yeah I'm calling it stable (for now).
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August 02, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
#6
Or is it we have become complacent with the swings of BTC, remember a couple of months ago it wild drop $200-$300 and people would be panicking thinkings its going to crash, lately its been normal and with a $300 drop since BCH we are now calling that holding steady.

I guess post BCH and post people gaining more BTC I would have thought we would see a price rise, not a slight dip, to show it is truly king and get the rise people were predicting would happen post August 1
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August 02, 2017, 07:29:06 PM
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The trading was done through an alt-pair not fiat, and btc being much stronger of the pair it made the BCC price swing vs BTC - so despite ppl owning more BTC it wasn't a real factor in the fiat/overall prices or value going up. It IS interesting all around though - compounded with the fact that nobody wanted to do much with their BTC during the risky time (you can see by the volumes mostly being low bar to bar on charts), and with deposit/withdrawal warnings everywhere, it still managed to not swing too much in either direction. I'm proud of you BTC, hodling steady through the shitstorm.
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August 02, 2017, 07:28:40 PM
#4
Most ppl still have not had the opportunity to sell BCH yet with wallets frozen and all.
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August 02, 2017, 07:26:35 PM
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Yup I get that seems to be peoples feelings but with the amount airdropped and those confident after BCH is dumped BTC would fly then I would have thought we would of seen that by now, not BTC being down even more since that dump
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August 02, 2017, 07:24:20 PM
#2
Well it's just an artificial pump.

The real deal is Bitcoin and we all know where it's headed.

Bitcoin Cash? Just another altcoin.
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August 02, 2017, 07:22:42 PM
#1
So seeing as though everyone (the majority) seemd to say they were going to sell their BCH and buy more BTC then why has BTC stayed down and even down more than it was yesterday?

Where did every ones BCH profits go if not to BTC or are we attributing this to Polo
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