Topic: Be a counselor to newbies (Read 231 times)

This community does require much counselor in order to be accelerated because i understand that this forum teaches 75% of Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, so the newbies are meant to pay necessary attention to grab successful information of cryptocurrency, it's obvious that in cryptocurrency everyone who are interested have to research and develop the hiding agendas of crypto, newbies Don't have much function or stress about development of crypto concept, what they really need to understand Bitcoin is observation, conscious and attention, as i said from initial.

I agree with you on this. Of a truth, it very much seems according to OP that, actual mentorship and counseling isn't on going and I don't blame him. Why? Its completely up to him or her on how he perceives the forum and what he feels mentorship or counseling is all about but that still don't make him right. You know, some people actually believe being a counselor or mentor to someone works more with actual one to one directives and all.
Here in the forum, its far beyond that.

Looking out for a mentorship intels, the beginner user actually going through a ranked up users account that actually interests him or her to study his or her post, articulation and gain more knowledge from  the individual posts in the process.

Meanwhile, counseling happens everyday with every reply or comment on a thread.

In crypto, everything need to be verified by yourself if you can.

Don't trust, verify. It is the slogan in cryptocurrency.

A counselor or tutor you are listening to, can still give you wrong information. You can not know it is accurate if you don't verify it. It takes your time but the more time you do this homework, you will do it faster and better. You will become better every day and you will be less likely scammed.

Newbies are scammed because they don't have knowledge and rely on advice of others for their investments.

It is your money, your investment and you must be responsible for it, not your counsellors.

Your point is right, No doubt but that is for a role model forum member which can't implement to a tons of user here for a open forum. It's either you will just ignore those user who's showing aggressive behaviour against or accept what they are saying if it's have a point. Ignore button is below user avatar which is very useful and I believe this is the main use for it. Cheer up.

I think those users knows well how to do that. It's just their habit I guess of expressing their "helpful" approach. We can't so anything about it, unless they are the one who take it down. Haven't much of an effect since this is forum, those kind of judgement doesn't seem to be out on the rule book. It's just a self initiative how they could not do discouragement.

Not everyone likes to see the same questions, perfectly understanding why they are being asked. Tell me, how do beginners who come here, learn that the most important thing is to get merits?  After all, someone tells them about it. When I came to the forum, I learned about the merit system after a few months. Therefore, everyone treats beginners in this way, realizing, that not all those who come here are real beginners.

And who told you that someone here owes something? Where is that written? The forum has existed for many years. There is a lot of information here. Any beginner who wants to achieve something looks for, reads, and gets answers, and those who are looking for benefits, his questions are boring and, accordingly, meet negative

There's no doubt about it, there is a hostility to certain things that users ask about. Sometimes its unnecessary. However, I'm not sure how we could even improve upon that, I think there's been quite a lot of users expressing that we shouldn't be so quick to be hostile, but it doesn't seem to have had much of an effect overall.  
This is natural in human behaviour, when someone has a bit of an ego. It doesn't necessarily mean they deserve the hostility though.

This forum is like that, if newbies are making mistake, the ranked members that can correct them will correct them.

You are very right about this, but some newbies do not like to accept corrections, they see it as criticism but which is wrong. I noticed the ones that are very passionate about bitcoin and bitcointalk later become ranked members too, but they also accept corrections which is the reason for this forum existence.

Let's also hope that those newbies will not be lazy enough to backread everything that was replied to them.
I see most of the time newbies making a thread and just leaving it there. They won't interact anymore to ask more questions or just to tell their opinion.
The next day, there's a new thread with almost the same question.

That's one of the problems why old school members are getting tired of answering.
Repeated questions created by one account and no interactions anymore in just one thread. You can't blame them for being too hard sometimes.

You have just spoken wisely, but despite all that, in life you must always surely meet both the good and bad people, but manner at which you take whatever they said, will determine how far you will go in life..

Yeah, I understand some newbies are redundant on some topics when asking question or inquiring but some unnecessarily hostile attitude from high rank discourage them. I dont know if that's isolated case cause I've frequently saw some post about it.

If they are irritated with the similar question or trend or repeated why not just keep it down and don't say hurting words to newbie that instead of encouragement so they could correct it and understand it better. Higher rank ussrs should have patience with them IMO.

Yes, I saw a lot of members doing this, and even me, I sometimes being corrected if I've wrong thought of such discussion.

I think there's no need to always have corrections for newbies, each of us can do research and be educative to ourselves, if you're knowledgeable enough you can join the discussion by sharing your informative thought but if you aren't I suggest not to interfere it because it might create spam or off-topic reply that might moderator will delete your post due to that reason, off-topic.

Just keep reading and gather knowledge and correction isn't needed.

Its important to note, that this is a forum which is available to the public. Just because one user doesn't listen, or heed your advice doesn't mean its been lost. There will be others which happen upon the thread, and maybe learn something. This is why I tend to encourage people in general life, and not just here on the forum (but especially here) to not only point out where they are wrong or right, but to expand on their points, and provide references to where they can read about it more.

There is most certainly times where users are unnecessarily hostile to newbies, and while this may be only isolated cases, there's no real need to be in the first place. I've seen this most commonly when a user asks a question, which has been asked before. However, not everyone uses the language the same as someone else, and when Bitcoin is full of technical terms, I actually encourage newbies to ask questions in their own words if they are struggling to understand from previous threads. I used to learn most, by confirming to my mentor that I understand by demonstrating it in my own words. It works. 

Of course, I do encourage users to try, and understand previously asked, and answered questions here on the forum, but I definitely don't encourage the act of being hostile if they don't, and need to clarify.

No, I'm not saying they behave toxic to newbies. My point is that member should keep on be that good counselor

There are many types of people on the forum. There are good and bad newbies and there are good and bad high ranks too. It's .. like everywhere in the world, actually.
This being said, just nicely guiding somebody will not always happen, because that one may be or act like a scammer, or maybe because the higher rank wants to scam him (less chance though).
But usually people are nice and helpful here. One has to not be lazy and also not be afraid to ask away and the information will start to flow.
Obviously, one will have to be careful and filter the information a little, and again, if unsure, just ask.

Can you call this counseling? Most probably yes. Will somebody become specifically counselor for somebody? Most probably not and also not recommended (it can lead to either scam, either accusations).

Being a counselor to newbies is obviously a rightful thought, but by creating a new thread about it, you probably don't believe that it's already happening. If you believe that bitcointalk members behave toxically to newbies, let me stop you there, because they're none but kind and helpful.

Being unfamiliar with the subject and so interested to learn about it, should be respected. There are forum members willing to explain you anything you're on to explicitly. Take me for example. If you look on my posts between March and September of 2020, you'll see lots of “dumb” questions taken patiently and answered understandably for a newbie like me back then.  

There are tons of good posts which would serve as counsel to new members (and old members alike, as everyone always has something to learn). Forum members should make it a habit to read up useful content. There are also lots of members willing to answer questions, so if you do not find a solution for an inquiry, feel free to make a post on it.

The work of a counselor is to guide, to show corrections. A counselor is a role model that has a lot to offer and that which is in him/her can add to the understanding of others.

Here in the forum their are lots of newbies and junior members who are not too familiar into the system, some have been hearing about Bitcoin but don't have much understanding about it and how it works.

When newbies are going off the lines, as old member with higher rank in the forum your concern is to  give corrections and cautions to newbies than to be hard on them. Every old member in the forum is a counselor because you have alot to offer to newbies with the time and experience you have got.
Newbies are to be encouraged, corrected and cautioned to improve and grow to get understanding.