Topic: Be careful and don’t promote a scam campaign (Read 836 times)

Have been consequence for user promoting the scam campaign will receive negative trust with their account, actually many board had explained about which one scam gambling side and consequences receiving is the user keep promote the scam campaign. All account had promote the scam campaign such as 1xbit get red tagged account but its not including with that campaign promote only for all campaigns. Likely this scam gambling site still active right now although not promote with bitcointalk forum because I found on social media platform twitter make new tweet every day.

Seems exceptional with the campaign running in the middle way get scam and the user can't category as promote the scam campaign since know the campaign have been scam stop promote it and remove all signature code or avatar in their account. Can't predictable with the project will the project ended become scam or not but the OP points about promote campaign have been scam in the first time not running in the middle way.

It indeed got many accounts neg–tagged, and rightfully so in judgment too. The major culprit, 1xbit, was all over the forum last year. I never knew that bad taste of a campaign would eventually leave this forum one day. It was really annoying. The project opened several campaigns and kept them running. It wasn't just this forum alone it promoted itself. I saw its campaigns on several other fora. For those who joined in that obnoxious campaigns here and got their accounts burnt, I'm cocksure they regret their actions now. My grouse with that site was its nonchalance in resolving those pending issues and accusations against it to clear the dust. For those who promoted it, they never cared what victims felt and that was insensitivity at its height.

Yes thats the case for altcoins youll discover their shady stuff maybe too late already and thats not the fault of participants though. Unless they knew from the start or therrs warning and still they join means that they are promoting the scam campaign with their consent. Having no proof is kinda different story when it comes to scam campaign.

that's right, there are also many signature campaigns running here that become scams in the middle of the campaign, not before the campaign takes place, if a scam project is going to hold a signature campaign then there will definitely be many DT teams who will give warnings and even give red flags to the project. just look at what happened to the gambling signature campaign that ended in a scam, there are definitely red flags all over the account.

Yes before it started the users will see if theres many red flags on the project but if not then they good to go for promotions. Unfortunately some plebs really good at hiding and even looks legit sometime becomes a scam in the end. Ive been into altcoins sig before and I worked for a shame project that didnt even do any airdrops after the campaign and boom they rugged effort wasted.

If you look at people's promotion of the 1Xbit campaign, you will see that they are people with a reputation or any high that is well known in the forum. All the accounts that have been seen promoting the campaign are not active accounts; they only wake up and apply for it, and they were picked and continue to prompt a well-known scam project that's not right. However, if you look at them well, you will see that all those accounts have neither negative nor neutral trust in them, so anyone who sees such an account promoting a specific campaign, not only 1Xbit, will know that they are not promoting a legit platform. The fact that all campaign-restricted accounts that are red-tagged or have any negative fees back should not be allowed to apply their campaign.

It depends on the research carried out, but if there is no research it will end up deceiving many people, then the people who promote it will not be given any sanctions. But before joining a new project, it's a good idea to do detailed research about the project, it will provide extra security so you can avoid fraudulent projects.

I don't see any rule about it but if there's something that like that exist maybe someone can point out the source so people could read that and get a knowledge about that. But actually this scam promotion using signature spaces of forum users is high been discourage to do since people will criticize you on why you are promoting a well known scam. 1xbit is famous for that actions and we see a lot of people got red tag just because as said they are supporting those scams and didn't care about the reputation of what they are promoting in the forum.

People should be held accountable on the actions they do but unfortunately there are other greedy people like 1xbit participants just take the consequences and don't care if there's someone get scam for what they do and all they care is to get money. Although there account is useless now but there's a chance they go back especially if 1xbit will comeback and promote their casino by running a signature campaign again.

There is a law against such act in the forum that will make anyone that fall victims to such situations to be tag negative and it will make the account of that person useless in the Bitcointalk.org and there is no way you will give excuse about such cases because people always identify with some signals to know that the campaign you are about to join in the forum is a scam campaign.

I believe you saw what happened to those that promote the 1×bit signature campaign, which if they have the opportunity to advise upcoming newbies in the forum, they will advise them not to advertise scamm signature campaign in the forum.

Well probably the topics pertains to known scam project even before the campaign is started. Theres no way youll know its a scam until they do so its not a fault of anyone if in the end the project turns out to be scam. Anyway theres a due diligence for that and we can already perceive if a project looks like a scam when we do research. Just mainly look for red flag and avoid those projects.

Your account is your most important asset in the forum world. Because through this forum you can know the news of crypto currency. The most important thing in maintaining your integrity on the forums is to maintain the reputation of your own forum account and keep that account clear of any accusations . So before supporting and promoting any project, make sure to know about the project well . Because promoting banned sites in the forum may damage your account. Because promoting banned sites is a form of fraud. 
So be sure to avoid the banned sites before doing the bounty work so that your account doesn't face any future work problems as a scam.

These well-known scam projects are mainly promoted by shitposters who don't care about the reputation of their account. The main focus of members who join such projects is to make money through the hook or crook. Most of the accounts that are used to promote these campaigns are worthless and receive negative tags for various offences. Other accounts that are clean are impatient to wait for better campaigns so they end up joining these scam projects because of money.

Newbies should be aware of these projects and avoid them if they want to enjoy their stay on this forum because a negative trust can destroy an account that took so much hard work to build. One of the ways to avoid joining these scam campaigns is to do research on them in this forum before joining.

This is normal because we have been working on bounty since the beginning and have been exposed to many scam projects here. If a project suddenly becomes a scam, there is nothing bounty managers can do. However, the number of scam projects has decreased since the escrow service was introduced. But you can never turn it off and there are very few people who have not been victims of scam schemes in crypto life.

Promoting any scam project is unequivocally discouraged, particularly when the community is well aware of their illicit practices towards users . Despite facing numerous accusations, these projects often fail to address the concerns raised against them , making it imperative for users to exercise caution . The ethical stance within the forum strongly opposes the promotion of such projects.

You are right when you talk about members being careful to do scrutiny of campaigns before they get involved in them. I think you should know that before any campaign is scheduled to take effect on this platform, whomever the Yu contacted must have done his or her die diligence before accepting to promote them. Doing their due diligence gives members that confidence to apply for such campaign when it happens that such campaign is being promoted by a reputable manager.

In some cases, projects come clean to the platform and even if they have clear intentions of scamming people here they would not be quick to show it but rather they would start as a genuine project till their time to exit approaches as they have planned it which would not be clear to the manager to what they are up to until they have executed their plans.

So therefore blaming members of promoting scams unknown from the beginning is not the right thing because nobody have any idea if the project they are promoting is genuine or scam not until they must have spent a reasonable time which would available the opportunity for members to carry out their investigations on them to ascertain their genuity here.

Thank you; I'm grateful to have come across your post. Your reminder is valuable, not only for newbies but also for those who might overlook this in their pursuit of bounty earnings. Choosing a signature to display is crucial; it's tied to our reputation. Personally, I opt for signatures from reputable bounty managers like Irfan Pak. This decision helps me avoid questionable projects and complements my own research efforts. Your insight prompts us to be discerning, not just about the potential rewards but also about the projects we align ourselves with. It's a thoughtful approach, ensuring that our online presence reflects projects with credibility and aligns with our commitment to quality in the crypto space.

If you're talking about them as banned here technically, they are not. Most people here just don't want them to advertise ^{(running signature campaign)} here due to the scamming reasons. And who would like to see a scammed website here knowing they have scammed a lot of people and they still have the audacity to promote their service here.

They could, but they choose not doing so. They could at least block transactions or don't accept coins from "known" or "labeled" as "hacker address". Or should i say, don't process the mixing of these coins and just report it to authorities. Censoring "any" transactions and censoring "only criminal" transactions are two different things. And i think, mixers should do the similar like this if they want to last longer in this space.

The most important factor in maintaining your continued existence on the forum is to keep your account reputation clean from any accusations. Look at where those who helped advertise 1xbit on the forum, after the 1xbit signature campaign ended, their existence also ended because no other manager was willing to hire them after their account reputation was damaged. 1xbit as an example of a banned site on the forum, promoting the site is the same as supporting the fraud they are committing.
Apart from 1xbit there are also other companies that ended up being scams, initially they looked very legitimate and convincing with all the support from other parties. When you know that the bounty you are advertising is indicated as a scam, leave them immediately.

There are certain path I like taking to avoid all these, like following a reputable bounty manager, you won't have any problem with scam projects, if the project suddenly turn scam it will be announced by the BM and they will quit promoting the project.

Haven't you noticed that scam projects are the one managing their campaigns themselves? For example 1xbit and co, the Bitcointalk account has the same name as their casino project, they can't find a bounty manager to give the job because all Bounty managers will reject the offer since they know it's a scam project.

All you have to do is use your head and think, if a project as nothing to hide it will be easier for them to hire the professional for managing the campaign, follow the best bounty manager on the forum and you have nothing to worry about, because they don't promote scams even if the money the plan to be paid is higher.

Any scam project should not be promoted especially when everyone is aware of their illicit attitude towards their users. Despite all accusations against them they have done very little to gain trust by attending to the scam issues labeled against them.
Avoiding them would be a better approach but it seems not all members have the same view of the issue, and since promoting such projects is against the ethics of the forum majority of the participants will end up getting their accounts tagged.
The ideal thing to do is to solve issues with users before engaging in any form of promotion.

Sinbad was just used by bad actors to mix coins, just like they would with any other mixer. I am sure that was not their intention. It's not like you expected them to filter out stolen coins from clean coins. Once a mixer starts censoring transactions, then it ceases being a mixer.

Calling them scammers, yet they never stole anyone's coins during their time of operation, doesn't make sense.

Are you misspelling the website on purpose? The correct spelling is in all the links you posted.


ChipMixer was not a darknet market, or if you meant all their business came from darknet markets, that's not true either. Even Chainalysis found that the majority of funds sent through ChipMixer did not have "illicit origins."


Uh, not really. Did anyone actually lose BTC as a result of using their mixer? If so, who were they? Regardless, anyone who uses a mixer should already be aware of the risks.


There's not really such a thing as a "legitimate mixer." If you mean a mixer that did its job well or as advertised, "Sindbad" more or less fell into this category.

After a new scandal - Sindbad.io mixer - it's a hot topic again.

Participants of such campaign are not to blame but a manager needs to do good research.
And it has been known how Sindbad.io was a re-launch of Blender.io, a mixer operated by DarkNet syndicate. Sindbad.io was just a continued Blender.io:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sanctioned-mixer-blender-launched-sinbad-183621428.html
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/02/13/sanctioned-mixer-blender-re-launched-as-sinbad-elliptic-says/
https://decrypt.co/208160/sanctioned-bitcoin-mixer-blender-relaunch-sinbad-sanctioned-again
https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/14/blender_crypto_mixer_sinbad/
https://decrypt.co/121222/new-sinbad-bitcoin-mixer-is-sanctioned-blender
https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-mixer-blender-has-been-rebranded-to-sinbad-says-elliptic
https://www.theblock.co/post/211225/sinbad-crypto-mixing-service-may-be-blender-in-disguise-elliptic
https://dailycoin.com/elliptic-reports-that-blender-rebranded-as-sinbad/

Operation of massively stolen and hacked funds, facilitated by known criminal syndicates, was known by doing a quick research already in February 2023.
Sindbad.io funds were not just from DarkNet markets like ChipMixer, funds were even from organized crime syndicates.

Sindbad.io abused Bitcointalk to attract clean coins, to get volumes for mixing Sindbad.io’s extremely tainted coins. Bitcointalk members were abused like exit liquidity from shitcoin pump and dumps.
It’s a real shame, what Sindbad.io pulled of.
We need to spot such scum next time. It's sad, how such a shady service was not questioned more.

And as a result, all mixers are banned now on Bitcointalk, even legitimate ones. 

Not mandatory - it depends on the manager and the client themselves. If the manager feels confident that the client will pay participants weekly without escrow, then the campaign can always continue. But on the other hand - escrow can certainly provide a sense of security for managers and participants because the payment is somewhat guaranteed.

You can compare different campaign managers on this - I'm sure their management is never the same. Some require their clients to send funds into escrow for payment over several weeks, while others pay participants weekly without escrow.

Yes, when money spedable for a campaign has dried up, campaign managers need to pause a campaign ASAP to prevent participants from continuing because campaign managers would no be able for a pay out.

I have been lucky to have worked with reputable campaign managers, even without doing personal research on the company I can rest easy because I know the CM has done extensively research on the company from the point the team reached out to the CM. One thing I have noticed and also admire about the campaign managers I’ve worked with is that they immediately alert the community and pause all promotions as soon as they find a problem with the company. This is the ethical thing to do when you’re in such situations.

my view on this is 50:50, I mean this is a free forum and the scam project is not mandatory at all. but yeah, back to ethical issues, when you promote a scam project the members on this forum will no longer be able to trust you, they will judge you as a member who is only after profit, look at the accounts that promote 1xbet, they are all affected red trust and their account will no longer be trusted by any member. so choose wisely which project you want to promote, don't promote a scam project just for the sake of change, feel sorry for the other members who are deceived.

OP I will say you did well by bringing up a topic of this nature here for discussion. Many signatures and bounties has have come and gone with lots of remarks with them and most times promoters of such also gets their own share of the remarks as it is be it good or bad.
There have been lots of scam cases pertaining to projects here but you should know that no reputable member who grew through ranks here to becoming a reputable manager here intentionally promotes scam.

I will tell you this that most projects that scammed members and the public came unnoticed by their managers here not until they have gone far their campaign their scam intentions were carried out. Most times managers do their due diligence before accepting campaigns and you can not tell when a project is for real or not when they all their plans well covered so no one could detect it but if in the course of promotion it happens that such campaign or project is a scam members should be able to resist d desist from promoting such and if they continue they are likely facing the red tag line and would definitely get it so just like the case of 1xbit as you have said here.

Every one hear is old enough to know what is good and bad but in some cases, the situation at which things present itself would make you not really have clues what it is all about not until you have gone done it yourself to see them you can have the feel of it to tell how it is. As for the tagging of accounts, there must be proof or facts just as you have said to back up accusations because that is what the rules States here from my findings and any one doing such must be able to present it for clarifications as to why happened beyond a reasonable doubt before actions are taken against the defaulter.

I don't knwo, you need to ask a scamming signature campaign.
But if it's a scam service, it is likely for all particiants to get scammed as well.

Wrong!
Promoting a scam project is intentional because we should always do a research.
We can clearly see 1xbit is a scam project and promoting it in our signature should result in a negative trust.

What's the point of even doing a legit projects signature campaign if they don't pay their bounty hunters? Sometimes legit projects also do that and some reputable bounty managers also fall for such projects. Promoting a scam project is not intentional and if anyone does that intentionally even after warning from other members then i think they will get a red flag from DT members at some level of the campaign.

Yes, and we should not support such a campaign. We habe 1xbit here on Bitcointalk, it's is a proven scamsite. As a scam sportsbook, 1xbit has scammed many community members and 1xbit has all its accounts on Bitcointalk painted in negative trust from various DT members.
It is offering a signature campaign and we should not join because it means supporting a scamsite.
Stay away from 1xbit, don’t bet on 1xbit and don’t add 1xbet’s signature.
If someone still joins 1xbit signature campaign and endorses it via signature, a negative Trust from many DT members is justified for endorsing it.

The big question right now is, will 1xbit leave the forum?
They know that they can still lure some newbies here, register in their website, and then scam them. Well, the number decreases as many know that they are a scam site, but I believe that there are still who are getting scammed by this shitty website. Maybe those 1xbit participants are an alt-accounts of a group of people here.

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What OP is saying is that, always be careful, and don't promote a scam campaign right?
How can you identify if that campaign is a scam or not? You will never know unless they did it.

I remembered the recent signature campaign which is BetterCaulRaul.it. I mean they've been here for months, gaining he trust of the users, he participants, and even the manager who launched the campaign. They've been here for months, and that's enough for them to gain the trust of people here, only to find out that they ran away alongside the money that they got.

Bottom line is, you will never know that a campaign is a scam unless they'll scam you.

To me I don't think no campaign would drop a notification that they're here to scam or have bad intentions. When I first got into this Forum I had no idea of 1xbit being a scammy campaign, until I start asking why the users all have red tags on them. How can one tell if any campaign is a scam or not?
1xbit is not a campaign many of us would like to apply for, my question is, is there no way to stop 1xbit entirely from operating in this forum? Because to me the more they're around they won't clear their name from the bad book. Even some of the participants that don't know the crime or offence 1xbit committed just continue with the red flag tag and they're comfortable. Sometimes I feel uncomfortable around them commenting or replying to some post😔. Is there no way of restricting 1xbit or any scam campaign users from posting on some threads until something positive is done?

They all have red trust for taking part in scam campaigns but they don't really care for it because they are getting paid for it and that only matters for the 1xbit participants.They are aware about it and we have lot of threads about similar discussion but on moral grounds they should think about it as they are also destroying their forum reputation and what after it ends? They cannot participate in any other campaign and mostly you will see spam posters there because the campaign is not looking for high quality posts but only a specific number of weekly posts which they can easily make advertising their signature.So with our motivation they will not leave the campaign so can't do anything about it as forum rules also can't take any action against them.

How will you know that the campaign is for scamming? Unless the campaign is announced by forum members that it is a scam site. And the only campaign that has that scam name in the forum as for now is 1XBit.  I don't think any reputable user in the forum will join a scam campaign to promote the site. It is only like scammers like them can join their campaigns. Nobody like to be scammed and also like to promote scam sites. It is good you remind them on it .

This is a Very good advice, we have very professional Bounty managers here on Bitcointalk of a great reputation who will look out for shady projects and also avoid such projects, while also ensuring an escrow of funds. Most projects are hiring a good manager but some do not and such cases can lead to confusion. It is also an important advice to select Bitcoin campaigns over Altcoins campaigns because Bitcoin campaigns have proven to be more reliable, while many Altcoins have,This may be the overall intention of many of us here, but the problem is that sometimes you can't tell which one is legit and which one is a scam. If it is already proven as scam, it is easy to avoid. But if it is a new project, who can tell? As a matter of fact, who does a deep research? Some people may do a little background checking and find nothing alarming, perhaps even with some red flags. Even popular managers here have probably promoted a scam or two.

Apart from 1xbit, there are a few others that came from bounty managers on this forum and the projects are all scams, I think the best way to avoid such is by following the right bounty managers on this forum.

If Bounty managers have ranked on the forum, some will never become popular because all they bring to the table are scam projects, the more popular your bounty manager is the better your signature campaign experience will be.

Altcoin bounties are were the real spamming are coming from, scam projects, shit posters, and shitty Bounty managers, only very limited Bounty managers in the altcoins discussion boards are good.

This may be the overall intention of many of us here, but the problem is that sometimes you can't tell which one is legit and which one is a scam. If it is already proven as scam, it is easy to avoid. But if it is a new project, who can tell? As a matter of fact, who does a deep research? Some people may do a little background checking and find nothing alarming, perhaps even with some red flags. Even popular managers here have probably promoted a scam or two.

I think the best response to any fraudulent act in the forum would be letting out them red print to anyone, company or firm that's labeled a properly investigated scam reputation... When that's done, It doesn't just serve as a deterrent to other participants but it also keeps every other participants on alert lest they don't bumb into any of those scammers....
1xbit has been labelled as a scammy project for a long time now and I feel anyone should've known that already... exceptions are made for the new breed anyways. I dunno how wonderful it feels to give what you toiled through several years to very unpleasant firms like that... just for some few bucks that will certainly end in not more than 4 months..

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Of course this really needs to be done. Because after all, do we have to support scam platforms? of course not, right? And we also cannot support all activities carried out by scammers and their supporters, including bounty participants. But somehow many people or some members here only focus on the rewards, regardless if what they are promoting is a scam or not. It's sad to see how this happened. And somehow, no matter how many times the project was stopped and fought against, they still exist and more and more members support them to get money from them. What an irony

One of the best means of avoiding participation in bounty campaign of a scam project is by following the well known and trusted bounty communities. Following the campaign run by top rank members of the community can also help to avoid such as they know what to look into to know if a project is real or fake.

I was also surprised to see someone wearing 1xbit signature posting on this thread, perhaps the person behind the account didn’t realize he was posting from this particular account. I believe Ixbit signature participants are mostly alts and bought/hacked accounts that belong to a large alt farm.

It's common sense that promotion of scam projects is never condone on the forum and any other legit forum, but what are your criteria for knowing that a project is a scam?

The non regulations of project entering the ecosystem gives opportunity to any project to get into the system, yes there are things that expert advice to look out for in spotting scam projects but this days scammers are now getting wise and covering up those leakage holes. It's really hard to spot a scam projects especially when the scammers are investing time and funds into it.

I would advice that we reduce the way we join in or spot any random project that comes into the ecosystem. It may stop you from exploring new possibility but also reduce your risk on getting scammed.

It is really a shame that Alisha-K did not even realize that this whole thread specifically points to him and others wearing the signature of a well-known scam casino. I suppose he is even supposed to avoid commenting on topics like this or instead talk in his favor and in favor of the signature he puts on, but nothing like that. You are very correct that they only care about the benefits of the payment they receive from the casino they are promoting. Despite the fact that our comments get incentivized, one should not just be concerned about the payment and make some spammy or shitpost.

The Users who have the negative trusts or get the negative trusts by any reason they go to the scam sites campaign. As you mentioned a big scam casino website 1xbit. So this website is totally scam and usres who join this campaign also will get the negative trusts from DT members which we can see under their name or by clicking trust button.

If it has been established that a company or project is a scam with proof and all, then best course of action is not to wear such a signature as doing so would allow the scam to grow further affecting other members of the forum who might not be aware of whats really happening with a  company or project .

But unfortunately seems users don't mind crossing the red tape for a few pieces of silver which might look okay, but this isn't only one user benefiting , it's other users being negatively affected and potential of losing out..So basically the negative effects of supporting a scam site outweighs an individuals benefit which is why these cases are against promoters of a scam site.

Promoting scam company will make you regret some of the punishment you will receive from this forum because is against the rules in the Bitcointalk and it will not help you to enjoy the reward attached to the forum. I know many people promote scam company because of money and regret with the red tags which will make them to lose value in so many areas in the Bitcointalk. I will advise newbies not to be Carry away by money that involve in promoting scam company than to be careful with company  that will damage their account.

This is proof that everyone has their own price. If something cannot be bought with money, then it can be bought with a lot of money. It is precisely because a few accounts have neglected their reputation and this scam company has started paying them that bad reputation accounts find a place in this forum. Everyone has a choice of which way to go, the forum is free, exactly like people are free in their actions. I think a few of the accounts promoting this scam also have alternate accounts, ranting about what's good and what's bad.
There are many people who will scream about morality and morality until the question of price arises before them. In our world, everything is bought and sold, and it is simply useless to expect decency from everyone.

That means he don't know what he's talking about since he just ignore all of it and continue to wear the sig of well known scam casino. People like that doesn't really mean the words of advice they say to help people to avoid scam or anything that can avoid other to help those scammers, since the only one they care is to gain from the casino they promote and they just spam to count up and reached their weekly quotas

You do realize you're talking about yourself here right? You're advertising a well-known scam casino for money, with utter disregard for the fact that you may be encouraging people to get scammed. If you want the world to be a better place you can start by changing yourself and stop promoting a scam. Not that you'll ever read this.

Bettercaulraul is somehow a surprised scam I also thought before that they are good platform but unfortunately they end up the expectations and show their true colors so this reminds us that even if those platforms provide good service at first we still need to be careful and don't give our full trust because scamming still possible since we don't know if they just showing up so that they could earn trust and more revenue to their upcoming scams.

That's exactly what I thought when I read the OP. It's a piece of information that's missing from his topic and which is very important.

Take the example of bettercaulraul.it, they acted in a legit and correct way for a while, then disappeared claiming to have been seized. They were scammers and neither the manager nor the participants of the said campaign could have known this, because at the time the campaign was created, the site was operating and offering services in a totally legit way - it was even listed on kycnot.me. In this particular case, I think it's normal that no-one should be tagged.

Apart from that, I agree with OP that members should obviously do their research before promoting a site or service. That's what most of us already do, whether as managers or campaign participants (at least I hope so!).

Not gonna lie, regarding to self respect is personal matter. I do not want to get into it. But the some annoying things are if you promot scam then you can not join to some signature campaign that restrict its campaigners have negative trust. beside that, your promotion scam will potentially become a loss for everyone else.

Promoting and supporting scam projects in bitcointalk is not encouraged by this forum. Though scams don't moderate on this forum but members can with enough proof. I saw 1xbit runs their campaign for long time and many forum members promotes that by wearing signatures. I don't know how they manage to run the campaign for so long but it is good that now they are gone.

As a member of the forum we should take the responsibility of what we promote.

this days, we have just very few persons who have human sympathy and are not willing to compromise their dignity and self respect for money, asides this, everyone's looking out for their pocket, In as much as the campaign's willing to pay, the too are willing to bag the money without thinking of the effect their review would have on the next person.

This is one good thing about the forum, every accusation must be backed with evidence and proven to be true. This is because some reputable casinos have been falsely accused by some people and these claims were not proven to be true. Competitors might also want to tarnish the image of some service providers by coming up with false accusations. The community will always give each party the privilege to present their cases and a verdict will be given based on the facts presented.

Many people don't care about their reputation or even the consequences of their actions. Their only focus is just to get the money and nothing else. Sometimes I see some high-ranking and clean accounts applying for this scam campaign and I think this is a result of impatience. Maybe because they were not accepted in a reputable campaign, they feel that it will be easier to start earning from these irresponsible promotions. For me, there is no moral justification to prone a casino or service that will lead to the loss of funds unsuspected clients, and damage the reputation of a.mwmbwr after all the hard work building an account.

This advice is very useful for newbies to avoid scam sites when they want to promote Bounty Campaigns and Signature Campaigns in forums. The obsession with being part of the Bitcoin paid signature campaign has made some users heed all the prohibitions written on the forum, they are willing to have their accounts stabbed in red ink in order to collect Bitcoin fractions that were forcibly taken from site users.
1xbit is one of the most combated sites on the forum, several users involved in it have been punished for heeding the restrictions on the forum. Need to be aware of raising money on forums, maintaining account reputation is better than collecting a few dollars of stolen money that site owners do.

Many information is not correct in it.

Checking it or not, you can not sure that it is not a scam project. It is not a matter if you wear a signature of a scam project when you are not known about it. Problem occurs if the community warn that it is a scam project with proofs for their conclusion. If you continue to wear signature of that scam project after community warning, you will have problem with DT members and forum community.

As a legend member or a DT member, I see no reason they should market for scam websites, I know a signature might be launched here which everyone will join and things might be going well, any rank can join even the legendary members, but immediately maybe the site have been tagged as scam, am sure everyone should remove the signature and avatar immediately, if we keep on advertising scam websites, then you are putting forum members at risk of being scam, because if they see the signature on your profile, they might end up following the link on your profile to the site which they will be scammed.


If a campaign is tag as a scam campaign, then the manager is should pause the campaign immediately and the participants should change their signature immediately, if a campaign is tag as scam and the manager keeps on running the campaign, then the manager should be tag also and any member that keeps on advertising for them should be tagged also.

I find it painful whenever I see people participating in 1xbit campaign, people participating in 1xbit are just selfish people that only care about the little amount of money that will be paid to them, and they don’t care if anyone is being scammed at the end or not, I believe those people those not mean well for the forum and forum members so they deserve to be tagged.

We can report them until they didn't get paid for what they've promoted because all their posts have been deleted.
It's all about money why are they still promoting scam casinos even though they know it's a scam and as we can see, all those accounts have ruined their reputation already.

Think about it, by promoting scams, you undermine legitimate businesses that provide good and honest services.
Legitimate businesses work hard to build trust and deliver value to their customers.  Promoting scams not only harms individuals but also can cause financial loss to others, so think about it if you're one of them promoting scam casinos.

Sometimes reputation managers can still launch campaign for a project that has always had the intention of performing an exit scam but just presented themselves at first as a good, strong reliable project.
Everyone is bound to make mistake so managers are prone to mistake when performing research on a project they are to launch campaign for, and that's why you still see some scam accusation thread for a project that's been managed by some of the most reputable managers here in the forum. The best thing that a good manager can and should do in a situation where there's slight chance of the project scamming is to cut all ties with the project and inform the community about their observation rather than to continue promoting it just for the sake of their monetary gain.

The fact that people still apply and advertise a very well-known scam gambling website speak on how it is managed. All participants who are enrolled in 1xbit are either negatively tagged or blacklisted due to their decision on promoting an ongoing scam.

Unfortunately, I also observed that majority of the participants in the 1xbit campaign comment on threads that are very irrelevant- which has nothing to do with the thread posted by the OP. It is like, they are just posting for the sake of attempting to acquire traction. But they fail miserably since these participants also are either not paid or being trolled by 1xbit in the process.

At the end of the day, everything boils down to your decision on whether you want to promote a scam campaign or not. Sure, they may offer rates that are higher compared to other campaigns but be ready for the consequence when you commit to such decision.

Accounts that actively wear signature and promote scam sites do not do so out of ignorance, they are well aware of their actions and the consequences but because they choose to go that way because of the money the company may be offering ( scam casinos are known to spend lavishly on their promotion).  A large percentage of 1xbit promoters are accounts with previous red tags, they know their accounts will not be accepted into any credible campaigns.

Well, we don't know if a site is a scam before it is proven. We can only check if it's yet known if a site is a scamsite. And we should always investigate new sites presenting Signature campaigns on Bitcointalk.

You are right, after it is 100% clear, where it is proven a site to be scam, everyone needs to stop advertising it.




Yes, it can also be considered a Beginners Help topic because it's about advice for avoiding to damage our reputation and promote a proven scam site in our signature.
I have moved my topic to Beginners and Help, where it seems to have better audience.


Very good advice, we have very professional Bounty managers here on Bitcointalk of a great reputation who will look out for shady projects and also avoid such projects, while also ensuring an escrow of funds. Most projects are hiring a good manager but some do not and such cases can lead to confusion. It is also an important advice to select Bitcoin campaigns over Altcoins campaigns because Bitcoin campaigns have proven to be more reliable, while many Altcoins have defaulted rewards or turned out to be shitcoins.

The most important factor to note in all of this is when the user knows that the company is a proven scam and still went ahead knowingly promotes such company the user should be guilty of the same offence as the principal and the tag is justified.

Just as you said Yahoo that we as members should have some moral justification and responsibility to check the services we promote via our signature or avatar because we are directly luring users to those companies.

@T3PROOT The OP has a point on creating this thread here since his topic is about the repercussions of promoting scam site in user reputation/trust score. This topic is also appropriate on beginners and help since the target audience of this content is beginner because most of the forum member knew already the basics for protecting their reputation.

Both of you should learn how to appreciate comment and suggestions. Stop being a child just because your opinion is not considered.

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OP, the most effective method to counter this kind of problem is to join only on campaigns that manage by reputable manager. You will have low chance on participating scam site. Low chance not zero chance to be clear.

People should have some sort of moral compass period and there are a lot here that do not. Some will promote a company scam or not. Like your example 1xbit, there are at least 50 users who ruined their accounts once 1xbit stops advertising for just a few bucks a week. Maybe they're all owned by the same person as suggested by others, maybe not but they're all worthless accounts once 1xbit leaves this forum.

1xbit is a known scam company. Advertising or even applying in their thread will lead you to have a neg trusted account. What about companies that aren't labeled a scam yet? You left this out of your presentation. If a company is found to be a scam, the manager and the participants should cease all advertising for that company. This will save everyone from getting painted red for advertising that company.

Yes professor. Good luck with your constructive work.

PS: feel free to repost this response because it's indeed an off-topic reply in a topic which is not a topic at all lol

You don't understand my topic, it's all about DYOR before joining a Signature campaign.
Not everyone wants fraudulent sites supported.

A piece of advice: learn how to write a constructive first reply post to a new, constructive topic.
Especially, a first reply comment in a new topic should be way more constructive.

My topic is very clearly an encouragement for DYOR, creating awareness how supporting a scam site in our signature will most likely lead to a negative DT trust.
Look at 1xbit promoters.

Your spampost is not my responsibility. I've reported your spam post in my topic, my job is done. Plz stop derailing my topic.  

Good job but you are far away to understand what is on topic and what is not. Good luck though.

A piece of advice: Learn which belongs to reputation and which belongs to beginners and help. Your topic created no encouragement for anything but another spam topic to hope for receiving some merit.

Do you really think it's a topic providing any value to anyone who visit the reputation area?

It is to make aware to look up a project before supporting it.
We should not give legitimacy for fraudulent projects by wearing a signature of it.

For example, LoyceV has rejected a ponzi project because it is fraudulent:

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In addition, I have reported your post:

You should not violate forum rules. Your post is pointless and spammy.

Bounty campaigns and Signature campaigns are very famous for Bitcointalk as a part of a vital crypto ecosystem, where many Crypto Services, like Gambling sites or new coins are frequently trying to create awareness on Bitcointalk, where Satoshi was active himself.
When we are participating in such campaigns, it means directly an endorsement of certain campaign and especially for famous accounts, it is also important because of reputation. If a known DT member or Legendary ranked account is adding a certain signature on his account, it gives an impression of trust, visible to every viewer.
Wearing a certain signature means directly an endorsement.
As a result, we should be very careful, which services are setting up a Signature campaign here on Bitcointalk and members joining such a campaign need to do a detailed research about it.
We should always check out if it’s a legit service or not and if it’s not legit, we should avoid it.



Wearing a Signature of a scamsite will result in negative trust on our account
Yes, wearing a Signature of a scamsite will result in negative DT trust entry for certain members promoting it, rightfully so. Because endorsing such a scamsite can lead to people falling victim to such a scamsite.

Only proven scams will lead to negative DT trust entry on accounts wearing certain signatures
Don’t worry, it’s easy to avoid getting a negative DT trust entry from promoting scamsites. To be considered as a scamsite, DT needs to deliever a proof if a site is a scamsite. Accusations are not enough, it really needs to be a proven scam, for example, when a community member has been scammed.
So, you are safe, just stay away from any scamsite and don’t endorse it by wearing a signature. 



Example: 1xbit is a big scamsite

A perfect example of a big scamsite offering a signature campaign here in Bitcointalk is 1xbit, which is a proven scamsite. 
As a scam sportsbook, 1xbit has scammed many community members and 1xbit has all its accounts on Bitcointalk painted in negative trust from various DT members.
You can check out 1xbit’s scamming here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbit-stole-my-winnings-almost-1-year-ago-5267919
We have more legitimate sportsbooks here on Bitcointalk, like Sportsbet.io, Betnomi or Stake.com.
Stay away from 1xbit, don’t bet on 1xbit and don’t add 1xbet’s signature.
Because recently, 1xbit has launched a new signature campaign.
Everyone who joins, will get a negative DT trust entry for promoting scamsites.

JollyGood has made a very honorable effort to expose accounts participating in 1xbit’s campaigns.
I can encourage to tag 1xbit account when you’ll notice one. Give it a negative trust.


Improving Bitcointalk: call out scamsites and supporters of scamsites
Scams are not moderated on Bitcointalk.
It is our job to research, present proof and call out scam sites. When someone wears a signature on his account, it means directly endorsing by promoting such a site.
Especially if a known DT member or Legendary ranked account is adding a certain signature on his account, it gives an impression of trust, visible to every viewer.
We need to make sure, it’s really a legitimate site to avoid endorsing a scam. We need to call out scammers, scamsites and people endorsing scamsites.
When everyone does so, Bitcointalk will be a safer place from scamsites.