Topic: Be the first to try the true Decentralized Naming System: Butterfly Protocol (Read 269 times)

You have a good point, people will just go for a buying spree and parked these domains especially domains with high keywords important attach to it, he can own it for life and just wait for buyers, this could results in a monopoly of domain, if you cannot keep up your domain, let somebody who is interested to buy it, parking domain is a business, and it will be abused, I'm ok with annual.

Basically, you are trying to replace centralized system (ICANN) with another centralized one, where a "team" and "sponsors" control the whole naming space of the Internet, with some DAO-style pseudo-governance which doesn't touch the core of the system.

Namecoin, instead, is as descentralized as Bitcoin is, with no centralized team nor "sponsors".

And I continue to consider it a very bad decision that domain purchases are permanent. That will not work. Squattering will reach such high levels that the system won't be usable anymore.

My stance: Not interesting at all.

Please also have a look at the ANN thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52337751

Hello everyone,

My name is Josh and I'm the lead for the Butterfly Protocol project. This thread has a lot of good discussion and brought up many great questions. To make my response easier to digest I have tried to distill the comments down into a list of common questions and our answers for them. Please let me know if I missed anything.

Butterfly Protocol FAQ

Q: Is the butterfly protocol limited to a single TLD?

No. Unlike other blockchain based naming systems the eventual goal of the butterfly protocol is to replace the legacy system. In a url the http:// part denotes what protocol is being used. We will be following that format in clients we build where possible. We do have gateways on the roadmap that will allow butterfly protocol domains to be accessed through existing dns systems. These gateways will live at existing domains such as bpro.to but will be open source allowing anyone to host it on any legacy domain.

Q: Why are you not scoping the butterfly protocol to a single TLD?

While we will provide ways to connect the old and the new we don’t want the new to be held back. The TLDs are important, if we rely on the old system the butterfly protocol would be crippled. An example is the .dev TLD. Until recently .dev wasn’t a valid domain so many developers used it to point to different projects on their local machine. When ICANN released it into the wild it broke. Any new naming system that relies on an existing TLD not existing on legacy DNS is dependent on that legacy system.

Q: How will TLDs be selected and made available on the butterfly protocol?

ICANN currently charges $185k to evaluate a new TLD. For the butterfly protocol we want the community to be able to decide what TLDs they want. To that end we will be releasing, via IEO, a utility token that is used to sponsor a new TLD.  It will initially cost 10k of the utility tokens to sponsor a domain with that cost going down every block until it reaches a minimum of 1 token after about 3 years.

Once a domain is sponsored a batch of ERC20 tokens is created for use in buying subdomains for that specific TLD. These tokens are split between community with the sponsor getting 5%, holders of the butterfly protocol utility token getting 15% airdropped based on their ownership, and the final 80% made available through a public auction.

Q: How does the butterfly protocol compare to namecoin?

One of the biggest differences is that namecoin was it’s own blockchain while the butterfly protocol builds its ownership control on ethereum using standardized tokens. This means that any marketplace or wallet that supports the ERC721 standard (popularized by crypto kitties) will work with your domains. Another key differentiator is that once you own a domain on the butterfly protocol you don’t rent it you own it. Most other systems, including namecoin, make you pay every year just to keep something you already paid for.

Q: How does the butterfly protocol compare to ENS?

ENS is a great project and has a couple things in common with the butterfly protocol. They are both built on ethereum and use similar name hashing. But just like namecoin ENS doesn’t let you plug into existing tools by using standard tokens to represent ownership of names, and you have to pay every year. There are a number of other differences such as how the butterfly protocol stores data and allows the community to creates TLDs.

Q: How does the butterfly protocol compare to IPFS/IPNS?

IPFS is pretty amazing and it is actually a main component of the butterfly protocol not a competitor. While IPFS has some tools for linking traditional domains to files stored on IPFS it doesn’t have a naming system of its own. Even IPNS just provides a consistent address that can link to different files. We make full advantage of different parts of IPFS including IPLD to allow us to store much more than ethereum by itself or legacy DNS.

Q: Does the butterfly protocol prevent domain squatters?

Not exactly, and we don’t want to. Although we do have a couple features that make squatting on a high value domain more difficult. The ability to buy a domain for a low price and selling it for more than you paid is a good thing. It creates an open market where the value of a name is determined by free trade. We also make it easy for domain owners to create and sell subdomains, create ERC20 tokens tied to a domain, and provide many other ways for a creative domain owner to turn a profit besides squatting.

One reason it is a problem on legacy DNS is that all legacy domains under a TLD cost a fairly consistent low price from the start. This is partly because it needs to be low since people pay the fee every year. But it allows someone to swoop in and buy up a bunch of names. With the butterfly protocol after the tokens used to create a domain for a specific TLD are distributed the cost in those tokens starts fairly high at 1k tokens and slowly goes down over time. This makes it costly for a squatter to just buy all domains under a TLD.

Q: Does the butterfly protocol use BSV (or some other chain I hate)?

Drama aside our team really likes where BSV is going on a technical level and hove used it for several projects. The butterfly protocol however lives primarily on the ethereum chain with data (domain records, site data, etc) stored on IPFS. One of the reasons we use IPFS though is the IPLD project which allows linking between different hash based data formats. That sounds complicated but what it means is that through IPLD we have the potential to store data on many different systems and access it all through IPFS. Data on IPFS isn’t guaranteed to stay around unless someone is hosting it. We think BSV has great potential to be one of the places that data is stored.

Q: How will funds raised from TLD auctions be used?

When a new TLD is sponsored 5% of the TLDs ERC20 tokens go to the sponsor, 15% are airdropped to butterfly protocol utility token holders, and 80% of the tokens are auctioned off to the public all through a smart contract. This process serves two purposes. One it provides a fair way for everyone to get a chunk of a new TLD while rewarding those more involved in the process. And two it provides funding for development of the base protocol and supporting software. Since there is no annual renewal fee for domains this provides a way for us to continue development through the bootstrap phase. One important aspect of this process is that the auctions, ownership, and functionality of the system is all handled in smart contracts and doesn’t depend on us to continue to work.

Hey guys, the team will join the conversation to answer all your technical questions. They are currently travelling, so thanks for the patience.
In the meantime you can have a look to the updated WP on the website: https://butterflyprotocol.io/assets/ButterflyProtocolWhitePaper.pdf

The team is currently working on:

- updating the roadmap with everything that is done so far and planned to be finalized to have a working demo
- signing legal opinion
- show the difference with other already existing projects
- Bounty campaign coming up soon

Community feedback is very important, so thanks for rising all those questions. Highly appreciated!

A short video that might answer some of your questions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYGHEmHwFKc&feature=youtu.be

I'm also not really impressed, at least judging from what I read on the website and the "whitepaper" (which doesn't offer much information).

One particular bad decision is, in my opinion, the fact that domain buyers seem to get rights "forever" for a name they purchase. That is a contradiction with the claim that the protocol should not attract squatters. At the contrary, if names are purchased only once and then are owned forever by the same person, then squatting becomes even more attractive (at least if the platform sees some usage).

Also, for me it's a contradiction that the protocol is marketed to be "decentralized" but there seems to be someone receiving money from auctions of some domain names (see whitepaper, page 11.) It's also strange they use the Bitcoin SV blockchain for some purposes.

Namecoin, in my opinion, still looks much better, even if it's stagnant right now.

Why does this sound eerily similar to Namecoin? Although it might be closely related, I wonder what is different in this Butterfly protocol of yours. Why even choose naming something butterfly since it has so many negative connotations associated with it. Thanks to Butterfly labs.

Is that so, so I will be using .butterfly which is not really an attractive domain and there's not going to be relevant to the kind of website that I'm going to create, I still prefer a top level domain even if I am going to pay yearly, .org for organizationcom .info for educational .com for business is more preferable.

There's already namecoin. I think they use .bit as the TLD. And if you don't really care about the random looking name, .onions on tor but would require additional software to access.

Here the domain names will be on a blockchain. It won't be the TLDs as we know it. I suppose something like www. randomwebsite .butterfly
The project acts as a decentralized autonomous organization and will do what ICANN does currently. (When you buy a domain there's a fee for ICANN)

Interesting but no white paper. And too dependant from search engines, especially Google the evil

Interesting project I am quite intrigue on this
We are used to paying our registrar every year because that's the tradition, I would like to see how you are going to implement this, so you mean we pay one time and we own the name forever? Sounds new to us subscribe and will check the development and news.

Hey guys! Check our this project, called Butterfly Protocol. Its already ready to be launched and marketing campaign is starting very soon. We will be happy if you sign in and be among the first that will give us your feedback on the ecosystem

Some of the main benefits of the ecosystem you will discover:

-opens up new economies
-true ownership of domain names thru blockchain
-support for emojis and Asian characters
-censorship resistant
-runs as a decentralized autonomous organization with no central control

https://butterflyprotocol.io/