BECAREFLL!!!! - Secondstrade.com is NOT paying

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on October 10, 2016, 10:54:55 PM

Quote from: rabiow12 on October 09, 2016, 06:02:14 AM

Waiting for help..... what a forum !!

The guy is stealing people and none gives a shit .. i hope VOD dies .... cause he gives a red trust for anything but for this he doesnt care...

Why are you raging against Vod? Did he redden one of your alts or something? Your apparent problem is with Secondstrade, not with anyone else who hasn't left a neg for them. Just sayin'.

Despite the lack of proof in this particular thread...Jesus, it doesn't look too good for Secondstrade. There are a lot of scam accusations being flung against them, and it'll be interesting to see if and/or how they respond. Hopefully this will turn out OK. I'd hate to see another trusted site turn rogue.

I don't think they'll even care. the never reply on such accusation. I am not taking any sides but I think OP should give more details or I will consider that he's trying to ruin scondtrade rep with fake accusation.
forcing vod to give them negative trust. what does this mean?

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Quote from: rabiow12 on October 09, 2016, 06:02:14 AM

Waiting for help..... what a forum !!

The guy is stealing people and none gives a shit .. i hope VOD dies .... cause he gives a red trust for anything but for this he doesnt care...

Why are you raging against Vod? Did he redden one of your alts or something? Your apparent problem is with Secondstrade, not with anyone else who hasn't left a neg for them. Just sayin'.

Despite the lack of proof in this particular thread...Jesus, it doesn't look too good for Secondstrade. There are a lot of scam accusations being flung against them, and it'll be interesting to see if and/or how they respond. Hopefully this will turn out OK. I'd hate to see another trusted site turn rogue.

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Waiting for help..... what a forum !!

The guy is stealing people and none gives a shit .. i hope VOD dies .... cause he gives a red trust for anything but for this he doesnt care...

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I didn't know that my thread was moved here anyways here is the proof :

Secondstrade recently launched a game on their site called :

Quote from: secondstrade.com on September 27, 2016, 08:28:46 PM

hi everyone ?
we have launched new double dice about 12 hours ago.

it's name is TX DICE.
because it use your betting transaction id to get the value, Verification is the most simple and provable fair.
there are total 10 items.
we hope you enjoy the game.

https://i.imgur.com/Kyj5GWV.png

thank you.

More info :

Quote from: secondstrade.com on September 27, 2016, 11:43:03 PM

hi everyone ?
we have launched new dice game TX DICE.
because it use your betting transaction id to get the value, Verification is the most simple and provable fair.
there are total 10 assets.

Verification is the most simple and provably fair.
the value get from the first 2 digit of your betting transaction id.
example 1.) when your betting transaction id is 95d52f6a387344661acecb535317acc89774a1d069676c66d768b9bdc069b012,
the value will be 95 .
example 2.) when your betting transaction id is cd8b614cdd35bf3f02b8d426c0b67e4c2ea6413867c459240b7265bb0663524f,
the value will be 86.

rules.
values can be 0 ~ 99.
if you select "UP", when the value > predefined value, you win,
if you select "DOWN", when the value <= predefined value, you win.

https://i.imgur.com/EDEIPXq.png

So for my bet

I win x8 : https://blockchain.info/tx/e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25

AND

X4 : https://blockchain.info/tx/78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6

There is SO MANY SCAM ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THEM THE FUNNY THING NO RED TRUST NOTHING AT ALL WHERE VOD OR THE MOTHERFUCKERS THAT THEY GIVE YOU A RED TRUST ONLY IF YOU SELL A SERIAL OF A PROGRAMME FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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Quote from: actmyname on October 07, 2016, 01:29:21 PM

Actually, those addresses are from secondstrade.com (or they appear to be.)

Agreed!

Quote from: actmyname on October 07, 2016, 01:29:21 PM

--snipe--

So basically, https://blockchain.info/address/1DECQ2F2pL5aa2TpRoNM8AwfkRPdK4bEZ6 is the main address with Secondstrade label.

Quote from: actmyname on October 07, 2016, 01:29:21 PM

However, the lack of proof lies in the fact that we don't know whether OP won or lost.

Is there a way to find out yet ? Even if he had won/lost,I doubt he holds any proofs about the result of the bets.However member secondstrade.com is frequently online on the forum and OP messaging him about the issues should give us a resolution.

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on October 07, 2016, 01:24:49 PM

Quote from: rabiow12 on October 07, 2016, 11:01:21 AM

Please Refund my transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25
https://blockchain.info/tx/78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6

If you're serious about it,please make an attempt to explain the matter in detail along with sufficient proofs.Anyone can post a bunch of transactions asking for a refund from particular service.Not giving a shit about those is what the services would choose unless you have a strong accusation.In your case,please show us a proof how is it not paying and what is it not paying for ? Where did you get those addresses from ? Any proof it came off secondstrade.com ?

Actually, those addresses are from secondstrade.com (or they appear to be.)

For the first transaction, bitcoin address 13VpVj2rp684F2SaZmPc2hr48xYCwhg2jV is used in tx 5982ca20b1af6c6bf7e219983360e3e70d0bc181df74b21ee96db3e7098eff38 where secondstrade's addresses are sending the funds.

The second address, 1HnXiS71r2uUci8L5wJuWHjR6sF8hb4wsd, is used in tx 26100cab6bf589f8f5bfc6992f410e213587c6ef07c7760aa74c3422f3163d30 along with other secondstrade's addresses to send to an address.

I think that's probably enough proof to show that the addresses are from secondstrade.

However, the lack of proof lies in the fact that we don't know whether OP won or lost.

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Quote from: rabiow12 on October 07, 2016, 11:01:21 AM

Please Refund my transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25
https://blockchain.info/tx/78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6

If you're serious about it,please make an attempt to explain the matter in detail along with sufficient proofs.Anyone can post a bunch of transactions asking for a refund from particular service.Not giving a shit about those is what the services would choose unless you have a strong accusation.In your case,please show us a proof how is it not paying and what is it not paying for ? Where did you get those addresses from ? Any proof it came off secondstrade.com ?

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Quote from: rabiow12 on October 07, 2016, 11:01:21 AM

If you are about to play at secondstrade.com THAN STOP!! You will lose your money even if you win , Wating for the support Reply or anything PLease refun our money WTFF!!

PROOF :

Please Refund my transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25

AND

https://blockchain.info/tx/78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6

What kind of proof is that? Those blockchain transactions mean nothing. They're just transactions, and there's no context whatsoever. If for example there were screenshots (of before and after preferably) of the transaction history, and you showed the deposit address, then that would make more sense. But the fact that you've only provided these transactions means that there is nothing to see.

For all anybody knows, you could have simply lost those bets.

And for the record, I went to secondstrade.com and was looking for those wager addresses, but couldn't find them at all (and these bets are relatively recent, too)

*Though the blockchain history does show that those addresses are linked to secondstrade.

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Quote from: rabiow12 on October 07, 2016, 11:01:21 AM

If you are about to play at secondstrade.com THAN STOP!! You will lose your money even if you win , Wating for the support Reply or anything PLease refun our money WTFF!!

Can you provide a valid proof for your accusation. Secondstrade is a trusted site over a years and no one accusing that they are scammer. I will believe on you once the secondstrade admin is not active anymore. I recently chat their support because of my deposit issue and they respond. Watching on this thread

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If you are about to play at secondstrade.com THAN STOP!! You will lose your money even if you win , Wating for the support Reply or anything PLease refun our money WTFF!!

PROOF :

Please Refund my transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25

AND

https://blockchain.info/tx/78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6

I didn't know that my thread was moved here anyways here is the proof :

Secondstrade recently launched a game on their site called :

Quote from: secondstrade.com on September 27, 2016, 08:28:46 PM

hi everyone ?
we have launched new double dice about 12 hours ago.

it's name is TX DICE.
because it use your betting transaction id to get the value, Verification is the most simple and provable fair.
there are total 10 items.
we hope you enjoy the game.

https://i.imgur.com/Kyj5GWV.png

thank you.

More info :

Quote from: secondstrade.com on September 27, 2016, 11:43:03 PM

hi everyone ?
we have launched new dice game TX DICE.
because it use your betting transaction id to get the value, Verification is the most simple and provable fair.
there are total 10 assets.

Verification is the most simple and provably fair.
the value get from the first 2 digit of your betting transaction id.
example 1.) when your betting transaction id is 95d52f6a387344661acecb535317acc89774a1d069676c66d768b9bdc069b012,
the value will be 95 .
example 2.) when your betting transaction id is cd8b614cdd35bf3f02b8d426c0b67e4c2ea6413867c459240b7265bb0663524f,
the value will be 86.

rules.
values can be 0 ~ 99.
if you select "UP", when the value > predefined value, you win,
if you select "DOWN", when the value <= predefined value, you win.

https://i.imgur.com/EDEIPXq.png

So for my bet

I win x8 : https://blockchain.info/tx/e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25

AND

X4 : https://blockchain.info/tx/78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6

There is SO MANY SCAM ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THEM THE FUNNY THING NO RED TRUST NOTHING AT ALL WHERE is VOD OR THE GREEN TRUSTED MEMBERS THAT THEY GIVE YOU A RED TRUST ONLY IF YOU SELL A SERIAL OF A PROGRAMME HUH!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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