Topic: Beginners who considers quantities than qualities. (Read 195 times)

I'm not going to disagree with what you said.

That rule is something that not important and a lot of subjectivity, there are many shitposts doesn't get deleted (I did report it) and even the moderator delete many of your posts, you will not get banned (I'm aware there's a temporary ban, but I don't see someone get punished for this).

But we have an option to choose respect other people or not, that's why you're free to do what you want including scamming or become silent reader.

The length of post, one line, three lines don't decide the post quality but what you include in a post is more important. You can write a lot, make a long post but it is still no value and a shit post.

A post that is helpful can be one line and it is quality.

A common fact is most of short posts are from spammers and have no quality but a long post does not mean it contain some quality inside.

Theymos wrote about it.

Beginners should have no pressure at all because they are not into a campaign and they are not going into minimum post-quota they don't have to be too impressive as long as they are not spamming and their post is not redundant, they will improve along the way, newbies should be relaxed on their posts and there shouldn't be too much rules and restrictions they can improve when they are very familiar on the community and the topics.

I am thinking to believe that most users in the forum here adapted to the forums system on a sequential and gradual processes before which being acquainted to it otherwise in a professionalism otherwise, you literally need time to study such as reading to understand the post before then one can come up with something or being inspired in lignes with the contexts of the post.

Don't get it twisted that I basically emphasized this on the beginners that are in need of guides so, there is a big difference between an acquainted (old users) who has been used and experienced and a stranger (beginners) who is yet to understand the concepts of the forum.
So there is no just way the both would be on the same rate of intellectual although there could be some fast learner that existed but yet, you definitely need that time to figure what could be right and fitted to as given task even though you have a clue.
 resumed school before the other, you are like to give a quick response of asked what 2+2=? And then you quickly answers =4  but yeah, a beginner (newcomer) could be asked same question but would need some bit times to put it in logics to count the figures by numbers and sums up before being able to give the rightful answer.

This is not that you are forcing in to give response to the discussion on board or not being knowledgeable of it as you said @un_rank it literarily demands some factors of time for logical inspiration due to your unawareness of the forum or considering the nature of the discussion depending if technical or not.

If you are taking that long to come up with a constructive response it could be that you really are not knowledgeable on the topic of discussion but want to come up with a reply either ways. If I have knowledge on a topic, it will not be difficult for me to discuss it, that will come naturally.
There are some exceptions when you may need to confirm that your knowledge is still accurate at the time or if you want to find an earlier quote that references your point.

You should not force replies, but wait for others to comment and go through their comments, when you learn more, next time you come across a post like that your response will come naturally.

- Jay -

If you resort doing like that, you will end up with burst posting that are done just to finish the required post but are not made actually from being constructive and quality posts. I see a lot of beginners are doing like this and end up having the forum admin keeping an eye to them because they don't follow one of the rules in the forum.

These newbies are also found to be spamming as well. But I guess the longer they stay in the forum, the higher chances that they will learn what's right from wrong and correct their wrong posting habits.

This is not applicable on beginners alone, this is what concerns every confused user who doesn't know how to out things in order for the benefit of himself, when we follow the due and normal procedures, we will have the better experience in whatsoever thing we are doing, some will tells you they don't know there's a required way or standard expected of them to make post to be worth qualifying for a quality one, some will also keep giving flimsy excuses for their wrongs.

You have started a good topic even if this topic has been discussed few times before. But this topic never gets old especially when new members are keep coming and old members are going on the wrong side of preferring quantity over quality. This will work as a reminder for these members and they can realize that they are doing wrong.

Making more posts is not wrong, what is actually wrong is making useless and meaningless posts. I also make a lot of posts and I will not say all of my posts are 100% meaningful because one post can be meaningful for one member but may not be meaningful for another member.

Most of the members are just trying to fill their posts quota and making abrupt posts, I read a post yesterday where, the OP was talking about spamming, like why this forum has spam posts and the main reason he mentioned is, that most of the people with more than 1 accounts are working in campaign and to fill there posts quota they are making posts which are almost useless to anyone.

That's rule #1! Literally.



Well, you can post whatever you want, but just know that if it breaks the rules, the mods may take it down. This isn't really about trying to impress other users with your knowledge or language skills. It's more about respecting others in the community and following the basic guidelines.

It's rather simple. You read a post, something pops up in your mind then you respond otherwise you move on. I agree posts should be constructive, but that's only after you have got something to say in first place, making post proper after having your stuff written shouldn't take much time.

When you spend a very long time on just one post trying hard to write something meaningful and of quality, it shows you do not have a deep understanding of the topic you are writing on, because if you do, ideas will flow through you naturally without you stressing about it. It is adviceable that you make posts on or reply to topics you understand and have good knowledge about. This way you do not sleep on just one post when their still more posts to make.

You should pay attention to boards and sub boards you are deficient in. Read various topics there, have clear understanding of what people are talking about and if you do not understand the topics, ask questions to get carried along.  There's no magic here, if you know what you are doing, you won't stress.

I don't understand why it sounds like every users must post in this forum and make sure their post are constructive when there's no rules about that?

You can post what do you want regardless it's wall of text, one paragraph, one sentence, one word, or just an emoji/image without any letter. Your account, your desire, there's no need to impress other user if you don't want that.

This is correct but most of the one-liner/single post here in forum are typically spammer and just stating the obvious answer that’s why some people have a misconception that a short answer means shit post.

The other reason why others are encouraged to post long is because the character requirements for signature campaign that’s why most of the post of campaigner is long to guarantee well thought post.

Each subscription campaign manager has their own criteria for the number of characters a post must contain to be counted as legitimate. As a rule, this number varies from 150 to 200 characters. In some cases, this number may be higher or lower. If you can write a decent post (not just a flood) within these criteria, then naturally the manager will count it.

It is what it is. Nomatter how best of you is proven you are likely to do an error or one aside would want to make a falseful error of your professionality. I don't think the grammatical terms and the t spellings are were errors are lied because it is believed that the unifying language here which is English could be a borrowed language to the others. So , they are likely to make such error mistakes which I am not biased about.

My point of view here is about the posters (forum users) time factors on how it is utilized or considered at when having the keyboard at hand supposing to make quality and constructive posts. Because some of the forum users mostly the beginners are not endured enough to read and understand the posts before contributing to it and at the period of creating posts, they are likely not bothered in stressing and brainstorming to make quality and constructive posts.

Many posters think that writing a lot of lines is quality posting, but they are wrong. I have seen many fellows saying that your post should be between 4 to 5 lines to be categorized as a quality post. I am of the opinion that if you can explain your thoughts in a sentence, that will be perfect and might be considered as a quality post (based on content you write), and I believe no campaign manager will reject these kind of posts.

You write a very constructive post when you are at your best mood and right mind without any eternal energy from someone else, bitcointalk needs more focus and attention if you truly want to converse and engage positively and professionally if you want to be happy how good you are at your conversation.

Secondly, you engage and write quality post properly if your intention is not to complete and meet your weekly sig post quota for your earnings which I think that shouldn't be the reasons why you come on here.

But hey now didn't you just do the same thing here? Did you stop and ponder this topic before posting it? Give enough thought to the content and how you presented it, or proofread it for grammar and spelling errors? Of course, there's no need to be perfect, but even a basic grammar and spelling check can go a long way in making your posts more professional.

Quality posting first demands understanding the topic and contents being discussed. I believe passing a message across in a brief and concise manner with enough detailed information as expected is considerably what is required than too many compounded words that lacks value and essence to the reader without clear information being passed.
Also knowing, not all brief response are quality enough and some times those with the higher quantity of words has better impact as they make their post well constructive, with well detail information on what is being discussed.
It is required of us to have a well knowledge on the topic before we make any response and the one's we know nothing about we spend time to read and understand from those who are making their own contributions on the matter being discussed, gradually knowledge is being added and where we find difficult to comprehend questions can be asked, instead of spamming.

Personally, I don't think the way you consider post quality is right, let me buttress a quality post can be a two line statement or less as far as it sends a message I'm quite sure it has a quality than writing a million plus words that beats around the bush without a clear point.

So spending time to create a post depends on what you are about to write, most people mistake quality for quantity there is a big difference in it, like someone writing alot of post everyday with a good messages such as helping out people to solve problems and someone writing same quality without a message it's considered quantity not quality  hence this thing is just intertwined.

I will use people from the forum as example.
JayJuanGee writes a lot of words in his post and is considered a quality poster.

Oshosondy writes a two or three lines sentence and his considered a quality poster.

Then let's take me for example now I can write like JayJuanGee and yet it's still not a quality post and you can write like Oshosondy and it still not be considered a quality post hence it all depends on the message your post carries.

To the beginners and help, do you ever stayed long on a post in the forum basically on a critical thinking on how you could come up with a constructive and a quality post and then you realizes you have stayed too long on a particular post while considering you still have a lot to be responded and then you just think of minimizing your times and just contributes to the forum with whatever instincts that comes to your mind without undermining if they are of qualities and constructive impressed?

At think there are various people like that here but I just have to let you know that it is better you take one step seriously and get it right than taking multi of steps and get them all wrong at where the system demand that rightful ness is a priority.