Topic: Berlin: at least nine dead after truck crashes into Christmas market (Read 3669 times)

The NPD is no longer a viable force in the German politics. They have lost all their seats in the state parliaments, and even in Eastern Germany they are now polling less than 5% of the vote. On the other hand, it is the moderate AfD, which is securing the anti-immigrant vote.

Ukraine forgotten numbers on weapon correct, just as in more than 10

I like how you're thinking. Teach em a lesson, kill em. That would certainly deter 90% of the traffickers. There will always be a few that do it anyways and it would make those guys dangerous.

Okay, everyone can now officially Shut The Fuck Up about how crazy it is that Americans can get all those guns and keep them lying around.....

Just you wait. New Year's Eve in Cologne is coming. I'm sure rapefugees are already rubbing their dicks at the thought of it. Last hope for the Germans is in the form of their once hated NDP, that is getting more and more support due to Merkel's ignorance.

Russia has only 8.9 guns per 100 person?! O.o

Doesnt every family there atleast own one ak47?  You sure that data is correct? ^^

Nothing is going to happen. A year back, hundreds of German women were groped and molested by these barbarians in Cologne and the other major cities. There was no backlash from the German men. Last month, the daughter of an European Union official was raped and murdered by a rapefugee. Once again, there was no reaction from the natives.

Would you take up arms? What arms are you even talking about. Europe is totally disarmed. In many countries you have less than 10 guns per 100 people, they'd have to defend their homes with knives and axes.

I disagree with you. Just have patience. The attacks themselves do not lead to pogroms. As soon as these monkeys attack people living near the refugee camp immediately, all starts.

Stop dreaming. There is a small fringe among the European natives who are not averse to the idea of taking up arms to defend themselves against the invaders. But the vast majority of them are brainwashed sheeple, who will just sit back at their residences, waiting to be slaughtered by the Islamic gangs.

NOTE that we are only looking at simple flaws in the design of the EU, allowing it to be attacked from the outside.  Now that's happened.  A flaw has been exploited.  Well, Duh.....

I think that before we break up the European Union will be people's attempts to restore order in their cities. Will soon begin mass killings of Muslim refugees. Then this wave will be hard to stop.

No. Before that the European Union will disintegrate. The Eastern European states (Poland, Czechia, Hungary.etc) are not happy with the unlimited Muslim immigration. If things go on like this, they will rebel against the EU leadership.

No matter who will guard the borders of the EU, the main thing that it was the military and in violation of the border opened fire on violators. Migration in my understanding is a hybrid occupation.

When politicians interfere in the border control, such issues do occur. IMO, the supervision of border control in the Mediterranean should be exclusively handed over to the naval forces, and the politicians must stay out of it. 

There is a much more viable and practical option. An European Union task force can conduct simultaneous operations in all of the North African coastal cities, destroying the boats and arresting the human traffickers. Without these human traffickers, there will be no illegal immigration through the Central Mediterranean route.

Sooner or later the EU will have to be destroyed by these terrorists.

JEEZ you Germans have a thing with gassing people ..

Also have you forgot your past.. Or you can only remember gassing people?..

Lets assume we do that. How can we check that what the say and show is real and the truth?..

VE AV VAYS OV MAKING YOU TALK ..

Then they don't qualify.  Simple as that.

Lets assume we do that. How can we check that what the say and show is real and the truth?
They come from corrupt and war torn nations where we cant check anything.

Lets just build concentration camps where we can gas foreigners. Would directly support our economy too.

Also if we are already at it please gas the welfare rats, mental disease people, stoners, conspiracy retards, feminist, socialist, communist, demorats and all the sub 130 iq subhumans.

Vote me for prez!! Thiz nutz 

Sure.

And then if you don't have papers, if you cannot show your background and that you are a good person, you don't get any asylum or refugee status.

NOTE, the above I wrote because we are having to react to Muslims abusing and taking advantage of policies of humane compassion.

Apparently, not in their direction.  Not if you want your country safe. 

I think that's what Australia does, but it may be ineffective. From what I know many illegal immigrants (aka the "refugees") especially from Somalia would sink their boats on purpose as soon as they see the coast guard, leaving the coast guard no choice but to rescue them (and later provide a shelter etc) or let them drown/swim to the shore on their own. So it's more complicated than just not letting them in.

On top of that there are some legit refugees among them (ie oppressed Christian minorities from islamic countries etc.) whose lives are under real threat and those probably should be given some sort of asylum.

I don't know what's the plausible solution to the problem ('kill them all with fire' doesn't count as such), but I know that if your asylum application is pending or rejected, you should be kept under surveillance in a locked centre and not be allowed to wander freely.

The idea is good but it is not feasible. Unfortunately in the modern world is ruled by a false democratic principles. Muslim freaks destroying the state, and they can not shoot because they are unarmed. Would be better if they had weapons.So much for democracy!

Are you saying that the migrant boats should be sunk by the coalition navy?! I like that idea! it will keep them from trying and smugglers from smuggling.

That's the problem. You need to shoot the boat in EU territorial waters and then refugees will not. All crimes committed solely because of the fact that there is no proper punishment. The violence in this case is justified.

Condolence to does people who lost their friends and families from the incident. I really don't understand why people always do bad thing to people who do good things for them like the terrorist i think they planned it really they targeted the Berlin's largest's Christmas markets its really bad for the people in berlin i have does freaking terrorist who terrorist a very beautiful country like Berlin now they don't really have the heart to live as a good civilian yet they really want to destroy some of the countries beautiful artifacts etc. what the hell? if we act to destroy them they will be at risk they are weak because they use this tactics but i say to the countries that they will have full info when people are coming into their town so that they will know who is the terrorist and kill them instantly

^^^ If you are a "refugee", or act as one, then it is extremely easy to gain entry to the European Union. There is no vetting at all. Just need to pay a small amount to the people smugglers in Tunisia and Libya, who will put you in a fishing boat destined towards the EU.

The search is over,Anis Amri is killed in Milan,Italy by Italian police during routine checks.He open fire and wounding one policeman before he was killed by another police officer.

This show how these terrorist with no problem traveling around Europe and how security is at a low level within the boundaries of the European Union.This is only one terrorist less,but there is no doubt that there are still thousands who are waiting for their chance to be glorified by killing Europeans.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/23/berlin-market-attack-suspect-anis-amri-killed-in-milan-reports-say-live-coverage

All these measures are not needed. Just end giving benefit payments to these immigrants. They immigrate to Europe, attracted by the free welfare cheques and other benefits, Once the benefits are gone, they will go back to their own countries.

Should be immediately expelled from Europe all refugees. Along the border to establish minefields, and the road through the checkpoints on the border to guard with weapons and in any attempt of penetration to open fire.

And how do you suggest that be done without actually killing innocent Muslims? It's not like they'd suddenly turn irreligious.

No point in using the word "homegrown". These people were born and brought up in France, but they never considered France as their homeland. They never assimilated with the native population. So nothing differentiate them from the new immigrants from the Middle East. It also proves that no amount of education and upbringing can eradicate the primitive urges among these people.

The Germans experienced the Nazi fascist rule, and experienced two German divisions, now they are a mature nation in the world, with its broad mind to lead Europe, believe they can win the challenge, win.

This song illustrates the sort of twisted sick thinking we are dealing with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsrw83fGqpE

Homegrown terrorists from France in most cases, was besotted by the Islamic propaganda when I traveled to Islamic countries. So from the threat of terrorism no one is immune. We need to eradicate Islam in Europe.

For those advocating banning entry to Muslims, that might stem the tide but won't drain out what has been left to enter unchecked. Even if no one with links to terrorist organizations abroad enter Germany, these groups now have a recruiting pool in Germany. For example, most of the violence in France are caused by home-grown terrorists.

They should increase surveillance and track German Muslims going abroad where they can be easily recruited into terror cells. They need to implement solutions before people become too pissed off, a far-right radical group emerges, and things get more nasty. I live in the Philippines, you probably heard of our drug war. Though the current administration's authoritarian leanings are definitely troubling, people seem to support the drug campaign. Why? Because we've grown tired of these petty drug dealers roaming the streets that now we don't care if we wake up to see dead bodies in front of our doors. That same thing can happen to Germans, they'd eventually get enough of Muslim terrorists that they'd support anything to get these out of their country.

To those who were hurt, I wish you a speedy recovery. To the families of those who died, no words can ease the pain but I give you my condolences.

Do you have any proof for this? Both Switzerland and Russia have accepted less than 1,000 asylum seekers from Syria (a lot more have used Russia as a transit point to Europe, though). Now compare that to the figure of 1 million, which Germany accepted in less than a year. The Muslim problem in Russia, is much more manageable than the same in France and Germany.

You do not mistake? I have not heard that Switzerland and Russia have offered to host on its territory of refugees. Besides, in Russia a lot of problems with Muslims. And these problems will only increase.

The guy believes Muhammad split the moon in two and flew to heaven on a winged horse.  He is as dumb as a rock!!!

I am not surprised. The driver was fighting so in the struggle he probably lost his id.

That is the point. The attacks are occurring in countries such as France and Germany, which gave asylum to these people. There are no attacks in countries such as Switzerland and Russia, which rejected the asylum claims of these people.

Here is what the President-Elect has to say.

http://time.com/4611229/donald-trump-berlin-attack/

President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday called the recent attacks in Germany and Turkey “terrible” and suggested that he does not intend to reevaluate his plans to ban Muslims from immigrating to the United States, boasting that he had been “proven to be right.”

“You know my plans. All along, I’ve been proven to be right. 100% correct. What’s happening is disgraceful,” Trump told reporters Wednesday when asked whether the recent violence has influenced his proposed Muslim ban.

Trump described the attack at a Berlin Christmas market as an “attack on humanity.”

“That’s what it is: an attack on humanity,” he said. “And it’s got to be stopped.”

Trump said he had not spoken with President Obama since the attacks.

“Innocent civilians were murdered in the streets as they prepared to celebrate the Christmas holiday,” Trump said in an initial statement about the attack on Monday. “ISIS and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians in their communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad.”

Well that's pretty simple, but not neccesarily a all out ban but a nice background check on who's who could do a little better job. The open border policy and the pushing of multiculturalism has made it a lot, a lot harder to do so. Also, people should arm themselves, you can never be too safe in this time.

Not let them in, ban islam and kick everyone who is muslim. Tho si doesnt have to be that extreme but that whole thing with the muslims got tougher with this mass immigration, now you have no idea who's who, who was here and who got it recently...

by not bringing muslims into your country. guns, knives and trucks are not the culprits here.

Is this real? I know terrorists are assholes but I can't understand how the guy could be dumb enough to forget his ID in the truck.
If I were him, I would just walk into a police station and tell that I've lost my wallet.

Remove or change the ideology that drives them to do these things.  Otherwise, you have to remove the followers of Islam from your country.  And that will not happen.  Germany suffers from post-Nazism syndrome.  They are afraid to go down that path.

People are imprisoned for even criticizing minorities. They have very strong hate laws now. The problem is the government is afraid to use the law when it comes to Muslims.

And how can you protect people from terrorist attacks? In our time is the problem. Arms so perfectly that it is difficult to detect and it has great destructive force. So many victims. Now generally began to use cars.

Update on the story, total number of people killed: 12, wonder: 49

Police are now looking for Tunisian asylum-seeker Anis Amri, they found his id document under the seat of the truck.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-truck-idUSKBN148287
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38392128




There was everything wrong with this guy and they justlet him walk freely.

There's the €100,000 reward. Here's the photo

Muslims are the evil from which Europe a very long time to get rid of. They cannot adapt to civilization. How many a wild beast not to educate but he is still a beast, and at any moment could attack.

No it will not.  It will lead to rational changes in attitude and behavior.  Rational responses to the new realities thrust on them.   Those responses will be LABELED fascist by people with political objectives.

People need to be freed of the chains put on them by these perverted liberal authoritarian controllers.  They are twisted sick puppies.

It's really a problem. They did not need initially to start up on the territory of Europe. Now if hard will not fight with them, the government will begin the riots and this will lead to a resurgence of fascist ideology.

Unfortunately from terrorists is not possible to defend. They are waging a treacherous war. Enemy can win if he openly attacks. How can you foresee what an ordinary man will decide to commit a crime?

I really hate those terrorists who spread fear and death to innocent civilians. Hope justice be given to the families of the victims and that they may rest in peace.

Berlin should strengthen and tighten  and they  will not be attacked again by terrorists. Thy should do this as soon as possible

I disagree with his invasion of Crimea and the proxy war in Ukraine.  But that is typical of Soviet leaders.
They will say one thing, think the other and do something else.

But his handling of the opposition is very efficient.

He is very popular is Russia and has close to 100% of support.  The opposition is simply afraid.

I would not want to live there but you have to agree that the guy gets the job done.

They do not need world domination. This Islamic fanatics are told that they are fighting for world domination of Islam. In fact, it seems to me that these attacks are connected with the attempts of Russia to destroy the EU and to strengthen Europe's far-right sentiments.

It is Muslims with a goal of world dominion, just following their dusty old book.

I have to agree with the methods Russia uses. Nobody is innocent.  Especially people in this cult.

Indeed, his regime rests on blood and fear. For him there are no limits. He bombed the city in Chechnya blew up apartment houses in Russia in order to strengthen their power and justify violence. How can it be considered human. Putin is the devil and must be fought with him.

How can you disagree with the methods of the dictatorship of Putin? You see the news? Russia has no independent courts and you can be arrested on the street simply because you did not like the police or because it is necessary for political purposes to create a precedent.

Before you criticize Europe, you look at what you have done in Russia. Yes in Germany have arrested any suspicious facts. They quickly figured out and released the innocent. In Russia still held in prison for "terrorist" detainees with straykbol weapons.

Already internet users have been jailed in Germany, for posting in Facebook against the rapefugees. A comedian was arrested for having the courage to read out a poem mocking Angela Merkel's gigolo (Erdogan).

What is there to learn? Just look at who benefited from it. Life in Europe is much better than in all Muslim countries and I am sure that the refugees beneficial to ruin where they are with the difficulties hit. I think the attacks are Russia and Islamic preachers.

Europe will most likely use these attacks as scapegoats to reduce personal freedom for Europeans rather than address the refugee issue.

Terrorist attacks occur frequently, what is the reason, where is the root? Where is the way out for international politics? Who is behind the scenes? Worth studying.

Fixing your comment.

It may not be just germany, a lot of EU countries supported the open boarder policy and now more and mroe are closing it's borders and it's getting worse and worse better and more secure every day passing.

Do not underestimate Putin. Have you seen what happens with the Ukraine? And how rest world was afraid to react? Even Erdogan start to cooperate with Putin.

You heard the words of the Muslim who murdered the Russian Ambassador in Turkey? Revenge for Syria and Aleppo is nearing its goal. And this is only the beginning. Russia is a poor country and to recruit mercenaries there is not difficult.

Muslims have been living in Russia for the last 700 years, and the total Muslim population in Russia (~10 million) is much higher than the same in Western European nations such as Germany and France. Despite this, the number of terrorist attacks occurring in Russia is very small.

They just executed the russian ambassador in turkey live on tv...

Doubt that they'll attack Russia, I mean you don't want to piss off them, they'll terrorize the EU first and for some time.

It may not be just germany, a lot of EU countries supported the open boarder policy and now more and mroe are closing it's borders and it's getting worse and worse every day passing. I can't even think what's goiing to happen at the new years eve or some other event in the future, I wouldn't even go out to store to buy things with this situation...

Russia is not the West. but I think that very soon this country will suffer Muslim terrorists. Russia is an aggressive state which is responsible for the war in Syria and the increased refugee flow.

Refugees welcome. I'm scared to think that new years eve is here and there will be more massive gatherings of people. Also, with these kind of attack made quite often tbh, it wont be ending well for the "refugees" and muslims in Europe, not just Germany. And we all know what happened last time when Germany got pissed.

Russia is not the west - clearly that is why you cant understand

To export democracy and love is not possible. I would have these bastards Muslims are not allowed to be in any civilized country. Let the will kill each other in the East. Otherwise you'll have to fight them in the West.

Dear defenders of the west, 

Do you remember 9.11? You did nothing in the last 15 years.
Murica and the west still exist, still doing party, still exporting democracy and love

Muslims have once again shown their beastly nature. These animals are asked to visit and staged terror. I believe that Islam should be recognized as a religion of terror and fight it on a global level.

I think that Germany will pay terribly high price to its policy of open borders,because everything that happens since they have received all the immigrants shows that situation is not under control.Their secret services seem to have other priorities than to catch these psychopaths.It seems that they are especially attracted to the Christmas market because 12 year old boy is made two bombs and put them to Christmas market in Ludwigshafen.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-idUSKBN1450R5



Police are still not certain that this Pakistani is the perpetrator of this terrorist attack,they had great difficulties to find translators but he say that is not responsible for the attack.German police now confirm that his DNA not match traces found in truck cab.

I'm glad you got to see Berlin while it was still German.

You are absolutely right about that.  They do want to spread Islam everywhere and they do want to establish a global Caliphate.  They will never admit it unless they will lose their cool then the gloves are off.

That is why Islam ideology must be banned in all non Muslim countries.  Democracy has to step aside and let people do what is right.  This is a serious threat, I hope Trump will have the guts to get this done in the US so that the other countries can follow.

Yes.... unless they are white. (the EU is having close to 99% rejection rate for asylum seekers from white nations such as Serbia and Belarus).

And according to the latest reports, the perpetrator was Naveed B, a Pakistani asylum seeker who arrived in Germany exactly 12 months ago. If the German people don't want the situation to worsen any further, then they should organize a coup and overthrow that evil hag.

Look.  Be reasonable.  A hundred times unknown voices on the internet have said on this forum "It's really the Jews, chump.  THey do stuff like this to make harmless Muslims look bad.  You know us peaceful Muslims don't do things like that. We're just victims.   Those evil Jeeewwwsssss, now, you know how evil they are.  Look, chumpie, just go along with what I say and I won't talk bad of you.  I might even support you from time to time."

Are you sayin that these anonymous whispering voices on the Internet tubes are ..... WRONG?

Maybe .... LYING?

Maybe .... PURPOSEFULLY SPREADING HATE AND PROPAGANDA?

I never would have thought people would stoop to such levels, protecting their own who kill the innocent with lies and treachery.

Oh, wait. I remember now.  They call it....

Takiyya.

You can believe me and ban ISLAM ..Why believe me?..I don't get no money or backhanders..
Just want to shop without getting run over or blew up ..
Especially by some crazy person over something that's not there ..

We should be saying?.. We are in the 21st century and religion plays no part in politics..

Wait...

Wait...

YOu mean it's not just a WHAT IF?

No.

You don't mean, it is like... REAL?

But all these Muslims on this forum, they all tell us that these violent people "NOT REAL MUSLIM" or "They really Jews" or "just extremist."

Or they say that "The West" is the problem or "The Americans created ISIS" or the "CIA created Al Queda" or "It's false flag, really it's the Jews/Americans/Space Bimbos behind it.

Who are we to believe?

refugees welcome

Or..WHAT IF?..Your sitting their eating your dinner with your family and next thing you hear :Dhere this
loud BANG BOOM..
Then the ringing in your ears comes you look over the dinner table and your wife and child are splattered all over the wall and their bodies in bits all over the room with a big hole in the wall were a rocket hit..

I wonder if you be angry?..Now imagine you lived in another country and you found out it was your sisters
brothers cousins home who got blew up..I wonder if you be angry?..

Now here comes the major point..

Islamics Launched their Crusades in 630 A.D.
Western Crusades started in 1095 A.D. to Stop Muslim Invasion
The Crusades were started by the Muslims in the year 630 A.D. when Muhammad invaded and conquered Mecca. Later on, Muslims invaded Syria, Iraq, Jerusalem, Iran, Egypt, Africa, Spain, Italy, France, etc. The Western Crusades started around 1095 to try to stop the Islamic aggressive invasions. Islamic Crusades continued even after the Western Crusades

And Islam is still doing this action in the 21st century IT WILL NEVER STOP..

So see the story i told you about the rocket and the family getting killed that action will never stop..
So we will have very aggressive people in our lands..I.E the cousin the brother muslim who's sister brother mother who been killed..

NOW WE MUST BAN ISLAM..A TOTAL BAN..

It will never stop..BUT some people make good money off war so why would we stop?..

How does war stop when Muslims battle over who is right about what they believe..
BUT they battle over something that's not there ..
And the Muslims also battle over the price of oil and the production..
War with 1 country stops them from selling..

And the funniest thing is black Muslims   ..Islam is Known for keeping black slaves more than any religion more than any race..And they go on to worship it ..VERY DUMB..

1500 years Islam as been at war with it's self and others..
This time we need to wipe it out once and for ALL..BUT the money trumps peace..
I remember a leader saying 1 day..

They will never stop..So ban it in our nations..
If banned no one can be brain washed by the Islam community..

Also do you know about 800 million Muslims have never read a KORAN..They believe what they get told by other people because most cannot read or cannot afford a koran..

MAMA MERKEL..You killed your own people and you call yourself a CHRISTIAN   ..
A FAKE CHRISTIAN..You Germans vote her back in you need your head testing ..
Mind you.. You have voted for hitler ..

Excellent at building and technology..THICK AS DOO DOO when it come to picking a leader ..
OR is it when a leader stays in power to long they become BAT SHIT CRAZY  ..

YES BAN ISLAM IN WESTERN NATIONS..It will never stop always ISLAMIC war..
Always some muslim will die because muslims kill muslims..
So if Muslims kill Muslims what chance does a non believer have?..

BAN BAN BAN ISLAM..And just think if Islam is gone then we will all live in peace ..
NO it's Islam religion that will never stop killing..

The truck driver is Afghan or a Pakistani.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/newsblog-breitscheidplatz-in-berlin-charlottenburg-sicherheitskreise-festgenommener-nach-moeglichem-anschlag-ist-afghane-oder-pakistani/19154174.html

I wonder if he was a "legal immigrant".

I guess he isn't Buddhist because Buddhism teaches you peace. I also guess he isn't Christian, because Christianity tells you to love your enemies. I'm not sure, but I think he might be muslim.

Just for kicks and grins, for a minute consider WHAT IF?

What if the inventor of a religion thought of a way to put to use the small percentage of any population that was bat shit crazy?  What if he created his religion so that that small percentage would be infected with a religious virus and do acts of terror before of course being killed?

Wait....nobody would ever do such a thing, would they?

The problem is that nobody has the balls to identify the root cause: Islam ideology.

It is one of the most fucked up, evil ideology ever invented by humans.

I don't give a shit who did it, I want to know why? 

Islam should be outlawed, PERIOD.

All the latest news search seems to be confirming that it was a planned terrorist attack...

And just came across this (from a month ago):
America warns citizens travelling to Europe of ‘heightened risk of terrorist attack’ at Christmas markets
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-travel-warning-europe-christmas-terrorist-attack-threat-a7432281.html

US State Department knows what's up. Just a thing to consider before mainstream media start pushing their usual "non-affiliated-lone wolf-mentaly challenged" bullshit.

I think I understand.

It was those OTHER MUSLIMS that did this.

Predicable hijacking of the news, typical Iranian propaganda.

Berlin is such a beautiful city. I celebrate there New Years Eve few years ago. It was amazing. So sad. People go at Christmas market to get some fun, buy presents, it is a tradition for them. And now what. These sick people achive what thay want. People will be affraid to go at any celebration of that kind. And what will happend with Oktober Fest?

Very tragic, According to this; the truck got kidnapped... So sad, how mentally ill do you need to be to do this kind of shit..

Yet to be confirmed whether it was an accident or deliberate Nice-style attack by the 'religion of peace'.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crashes-into-christmas-market
https://www.rt.com/news/370827-berlin-christmas-market-truck/

A truck has ploughed into a Christmas market in western Berlin killing nine and injuring several people, according to police.
The incident happened in one of Berlin’s largest Christmas markets, located in the western Charlottenburg district. It is also close to Berlin’s key shopping mile, Kurfuerstendamm, and a famous tourist site, Memorial Church.